Steve Quest (p/k/a Montagraph) vs. Nicholas Robert Rekieta & Rekieta Law, LLC (2023)

Silencing someone is not a denial.
Nigger, in most cases of a lawsuit people will try to settle before the lawsuit actually gets going. Rekieta basically dragged his feet about getting representation and is not acting in good faith. I’d argue he’d openly hostile to Montegraph and does not want to settle. His statements in the video go over this. He’s only agree to retract if Montegraph groveled to him.
 
Silencing someone is not a denial.
If calling someone a Paedophile, (which is in effect accusing them of one of the most heinous crimes) is not Defamation Per Se, then there should be no such thing as Defamation Per Se.
If Nick. and by extension your argument is that freedom of speech should be absolute, and American Jurisprudence has it all wrong, then neither of you are arguing your view well. I am even granting that there are such valid arguments. Do better.
I hope you win a million tophats!
 
in most cases of a lawsuit people will try to settle before the lawsuit actually gets going
I've seen one side of the argument, which was that there was no attempt at settlement.
If Nick. and by extension your argument is that freedom of speech should be absolute, and American Jurisprudence has it all wrong, then neither of you are arguing your view well. I am even granting that there are such valid arguments. Do better.
I literally just find it unsettling that he hasn't denied the accusation. Or if he has, I haven't found it.

Technically correct might be the best type of correct, but when someone levies an accusation of pedophilia, that is not the time to "well actually".
 
No, obviously I don't expect him to prove the negative, I'd just like to see if he's clearly denied it at some point.
Nigga, you JUST gone done saying that there is no proof that Monty didn't run a photography studio that took pictures of naked children. That is what I was responding to. Why fucking say such a thing if you aren't positioning yourself so you can eternally persist in the belief that maybe he did? It's a punk-ass thing to say. To anybody.

A denial isn't proof that somebody didn't do something. If Monty issued a public denial (and again, I think he probably expressed at least a private one with Null), what's to stop you from coming back with "Okay, he denied it, but there's no prooooof he didn't run a naked child photography studio."

Fuck off with this shit. @Balldo's Gate is right. The mental gymnastics you've displayed thus far are ridiculous.

(Also, it's worth mentioning that Monty might have actually publicly denied one or more of Nick's claims at some point. I dunno though, because I don't really watch his YouTube channel).
 
A denial isn't proof that somebody didn't do something. If Monty issued a public denial (and again, I think he probably expressed at least a private one with Null), what's to stop you from coming back with "Okay, he denied it, but there's no prooooof he didn't run a naked child photography studio."
I've already expressed an "okay there's no proof that he did", can I at least get a bit of credit that I'm not going to continue that rumor if I see that he's clearly denied it?
 
I've already expressed an "okay there's no proof that he did", can I at least get a bit of credit that I'm not going to continue that rumor if I see that he's clearly denied it?
Outside of the denial in the lawsuit, you mean? Just checking if I understand you correctly.
 
Inclusive. If the lawsuit contained a clear denial, I don't recall it, but that could just be a fault of my memory.
“On October 13, 2022, Defendants published a video in which another lawyer named Andrew d'Adesky (also known as Legal Mindset) appeared as a guest. During this published video, Defendant Nicholas Rekieta accused Plaintiff of disgusting crimes against children, pedophilia, then, stated Plaintiff "should probably be shot in the fucking head." […] Defendants, through managers, administrators, and officials acting on behalf of Defendants and within the scope of their employment, including Defendant Nicholas Rekieta, caused to be published to third persons with no privilege, false and defamatory statements, as alleged above, to wit, that Plaintiff engaged in criminal conduct, is a pedophile, pervert, and whose life is worthless and should be ended. […] Defendants published the aforesaid defamatory statements with knowledge of the falsity and with malice, in wanton disregard for the truthfulness or effect upon Plaintiff and or with reckless indifference to the effect of such publication upon Plaintiff all of which was reasonably foreseeable to Defendant Rekieta Law, LLC.”

That, to me, reads like a clear denial in his amended complaint.
 
That, to me, reads like a clear denial in his amended complaint.
That would require him to actually think before he says something retarded. Now can you explain why Monty hasn't personally come to Kosher's house and explicitly told him in detail each and every accusation that was false?

Furthermore, he said "knowledge of the falsity". Falsity of what? He didn't say the falsity was about the pedophilia. He just said "to wit" which if you'll indulge me a bit I can explain to you how that's not what vanity means. Vanity is praying to God and expecting him to care about you. Knowledge of the falsity isn't vanity.

(Am I doing this right, Kosh?)
 
Not only does Nick lack such proof for his claim, but seemingly nobody has such proof.
Well obviously he can't prove that he isn't, which is why such accusations are so vicious, but we've examined every basis for which he's been accused of it, and they've all been pure vapor. Either they proved no such thing or they were outright nonsensical. Like that very "Umbrella Man" film that was supposedly proof. And it wasn't.

Anyone who evaluated these claims who was a real man (which Nick is not) would have retracted these lies. Nick doesn't, though, because he is an arrogant liar incapable of admitting error, because he's a gigantic cocksucking fairy.
 
I've already expressed an "okay there's no proof that he did", can I at least get a bit of credit that I'm not going to continue that rumor if I see that he's clearly denied it?
No, you don't. Because a denial should have absolutely no bearing of the believability of claims that are not properly sourced or evidenced. To say "well I'll keep saying it if he doesn't deny it to my satisfaction" is fucking gay. That is Nick-tier dogshit.

This is Kiwifarms. Lolcows deny shit referenced here all the time. A denial, in and off itself, generally doesn't count for much. You've been here since 2019. You ought to know this.

What helps Monty a great deal here (and indeed has engendered him quite a bit of sympathy) isn't that he's denied or not denied anything, but that there is not a single scintilla of credible evidence... NOT ONE... that he is a pedophile. Certainly there is no proof he is a child molester.

Monty does not owe you, I, or Nick a denial. Leaving that aside though, he pretty clearly presents a blanket denial by way of his lawsuit.

Also, since I'm now fired up about this, I would like to point out the OP is chock full of things since proven to be incorrect. I don't think @5t3n0g0ph3r is coming back. I would like to see some corrections made. I would even volunteer to make them myself if need be.

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Examples:

The 4-part series of films features, Quest "explores the mind of a serial killer" with the victim being a young girl wearing a pig mask.
Young woman. That is NOT a young girl by any stretch of the imagination. @Harm also pointed out in this post why the character is almost certainly meant to be an adult.

The series has been thoroughly scrubbed off the internet with a Retmeishka blog post claiming the girl featured in the short films really did die.
3 of the 4 parts have been recovered. Montegraph claims he never uploaded the fourth.

The film is not nearly as salacious as Monty's trolls made out. Or to quote Null, this not "some A Serbian Film level shit." The film is best described as "stupid." It's not even graphic.

Null described the Retmeishka blog as "unhinged and unreliable." He is correct. I get that this isn't a scholarly website, but why is this even here? It's the equivalent of saying that a meth addict living under a freeway overpass claims that Monty killed a hooker behind an Arby's outside Kansas City back in 1987.

Last I checked snuff films are still a thing of urban legend.

(Incidentally, it's weird to me that we're supposed to believe that the girl is dead, but I guess ignore the claim in the same blog that the girl is 35).

As noted in a phone call with @Null featured on Mad At The Internet, Quest claims that he had parental consent to take nudes of minors as part of his business. Needless to say this has led detractors to call him a pedophile.
I do not believe this is true. It is incongruous with what Null wrote in Montegraph's thread. It is my understanding that that claim did not originate from Montegraph, but somewhere else.

Everything came to a head when Quest decided to sue Rekieta and serviced him on December 5, 2022.
What happened is that Rekieta demanded Monty sue him.

And then, ya know, he did.

Since then Nick has had to pay tens, if not hundreds, of thousands of dollars to Randazza so he can avoid being wrong. Money he doesn't have a prayer of ever seeing again.

That's a big part of why this lawsuit is so damn funny.
 
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Outside of the denial in the lawsuit, you mean? Just checking if I understand you correctly.
What is the point of continuing to try to understand this insane and pointless drivel?

What's even the question? Whether the guy who got a Kiwi Farms thread 5 years ago because he sued people over making certain claims ever actually denied those claims?

As soon as you tried to understand it and engage with it, you lost.

That, to me, reads like a clear denial in his amended complaint.
No no you don't understand, the complaint is not denying anything, it's just SILENCING NICK REKIETA!!!!!!

Silencing someone is not a denial.

Because Nick Rekieta is definitely being silenced.

He's definitely not drunkenly ranting about the guy using arguments that sound as crazy and nonsensical as a certain poster in this thread, as @Captain Manning pointed out:

Now, I know you're not Nick, because I remember you from WW, but I gotta be honest with you: @Spaded Dave is correct that you are sounding an awful lot like how he sounds now. It's kinda creepy.

You can be offended by this if you want, but I'm just telling you the God's honest truth. Trust me dude, you really don't wanna be sounding like circa-2024 Nicholas Robert Rekieta.
 
No, you don't. Because a denial should have absolutely no bearing of the believability of claims that are not properly sourced or evidenced. To say "well I'll keep saying it if he doesn't deny it to my satisfaction" is fucking gay.
This is a site where we have zero hesitation in calling someone what they are IF THERE IS EVIDENCE FOR IT.

We do not persist in such accusations in the face of lack of evidence, or when the so-called evidence turns out to be BULLSHIT. Which it has in this case.

Say what you like about Monty. Maybe he's a weird boomer. Maybe he's a conspiracy theorist. I think those would be fair accusations, but then so are plenty of us.

Call him a pedophile, though? Based on what? This site is full of threads calling people that, mostly based on actual evidence. On examination, any basis for calling Monty this is bullshit, though.

Nick is an absolute jackass for doubling, tripling, quadrupling down on this farcical claim and then spending five or even six figure to Randazza to defend his idiocy.
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What's even the question? Whether the guy who got a Kiwi Farms thread 5 years ago because he sued people over making certain claims ever actually denied those claims?
A defamation complaint is, by definition, a statement that the claims being sued over are false. That's why they're defamatory. Fuckface said up front, "sue me." He begged for it, with his cum-guzzling lips.

Even if there were some rule in Minnesota that you had to request a retraction before suing (like they had in Texas), he explicitly said that to do so would be futile, he wanted to be sued. That's what he got.
 
Literally. "Pull up" is even greater than The Corn Joke as a 'hey buddy maybe change your direction before you wreck' in both its prescience and how much the target of the advice went insane over it.
Nick is the perfect example of how your response to constructive criticism can either make you or break you.

Sane person response to constructive criticism: "Thanks! I think I'll try to do better!"

Cow response to constructive criticism. "Oh you think I shouldn't drink a handle of vodka a day? WELL I'LL DRINK TWO JUST TO SHOW YOU!"
 
but somewhere else.
I'll attempt to find the source stream if it's still out there, but this claim came from someone calling him weird for taking pictures of children. Not nude pictures, not salacious pictures, not weird pictures. Just the fact that he was willing to include children in photoshoots, same as family photos at Walmart. His response was along the lines of "There's a parental consent form".

This was then disingenuously morphed into "He takes naked pictures of kids and claims he has consent to justify it".
 
Null described the Retmeishka blog as "unhinged and unreliable." He is correct. I get that this isn't a scholarly website, but why is this even here? It's the equivalent of saying that a meth addict living under a freeway overpass claims that Monty killed a hooker behind an Arby's outside Kansas City back in 1987.
"Unhinged and unreliable" is an understatement.

I cannot imagine anyone actually clicking on the post and believing it is in any way worth citing.

The thing is, @5t3n0g0ph3r does not actually link to the blog post, and, in the most optimistic scenario, didn't actually read it before citing it.

His response was along the lines of "There's a parental consent form".
The revised Montagraph OP has archived versions of his website from March 2000 which clearly state that he photographed people aged 18-48.

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The update notice to the revised OP states the following:
As there is no evidence that he has done any photoshoots with minors, I have done so.
 
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Nigga, you JUST gone done saying that there is no proof that Monty didn't run a photography studio that took pictures of naked children. That is what I was responding to. Why fucking say such a thing if you aren't positioning yourself so you can eternally persist in the belief that maybe he did? It's a punk-ass thing to say. To anybody.

A denial isn't proof that somebody didn't do something. If Monty issued a public denial (and again, I think he probably expressed at least a private one with Null), what's to stop you from coming back with "Okay, he denied it, but there's no prooooof he didn't run a naked child photography studio."

Fuck off with this shit. @Balldo's Gate is right. The mental gymnastics you've displayed thus far are ridiculous.

(Also, it's worth mentioning that Monty might have actually publicly denied one or more of Nick's claims at some point. I dunno though, because I don't really watch his YouTube channel).

Monty had a stream after he filed the lawsuit and before where he really seemed hurt by the claims. There is also a stream and the GFM description he had around to raise money for the appeal.

Incidentally, he met his goal in short order unlike the languishing Rekieta GFM.

Examples:
No no you don't understand, the complaint is not denying anything, it's just SILENCING NICK REKIETA!!!!!!
We do not persist in such accusations in the face of lack of evidence, or when the so-called evidence turns out to be BULLSHIT. Which it has in this case.

Interestingly enough, all this was included and explained in the 7 links I provided earlier ITT to address the key points in the discussion of the lawsuit and claims behind it in the main Nick thread of this matter of reliability of the prior Monty claims.

I guess they didn't read any of them. I hark back to those link as useful commentary on the merits, causes, and motivation of this lawsuit, and suggest those unfamiliar read and digest them and the surrounding posts.
 
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