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All could have been avoided if Hamas had done what everyone not insane does in their position, surrender
Israel controls Hamas via Mosad. They're playing both sides so they can just kill everyone in Gaza and take the land. Then force the west to support them in taking over the rest of the ME.
 
Israel controls Hamas via Mosad. They're playing both sides so they can just kill everyone in Gaza and take the land. Then force the west to support them in taking over the rest of the ME.
Kinda stupid for Hamas to let themselves get decimated by their masters
 
These people believe that they can rules-lawyer GOD, an omniscient and omnipotent being through their own human, flawed, and imprecise understanding of His Divine Will.
One of my favorite parts of the Old Testament is where Abraham haggles with God over sparing Sodom.
So the LORD replied, “If I find fifty righteous ones within the city of Sodom, on their account I will spare the whole place.”

Then Abraham answered, “Now that I have ventured to speak to the Lord—though I am but dust and ashes— suppose the fifty righteous ones lack five. Will You destroy the whole city for the lack of five?”

He replied, “If I find forty-five there, I will not destroy it.”

Once again Abraham spoke to the LORD, “Suppose forty are found there?”

He answered, “On account of the forty, I will not do it.”

Then Abraham said, “May the Lord not be angry, but let me speak further. Suppose thirty are found there?”

He replied, “If I find thirty there, I will not do it.”

And Abraham said, “Now that I have ventured to speak to the Lord, suppose twenty are found there?”

He answered, “On account of the twenty, I will not destroy it.”

Finally, Abraham said, “May the Lord not be angry, but let me speak once more. Suppose ten are found there?”

And He answered, “On account of the ten, I will not destroy it.”

When the LORD had finished speaking with Abraham, He departed, and Abraham returned home.
 
Israel controls Hamas via Mosad. They're playing both sides so they can just kill everyone in Gaza and take the land. Then force the west to support them in taking over the rest of the ME.
This is the kind of schizo take I love seeing on this site.
How? Are Haniyeh and Sinwar secretly mossad agents?
Shut up Jew. You should recuse yourself from anything Israel-related or at least put a big yellow sticker on your posts so people know not to listen to anything you have to say.
 
How? Are Haniyeh and Sinwar secretly mossad agents?
https://archive.is/iPO3z - WSJ "How Israel Helped to Spawn Hamas" Jan 2009
https://archive.is/onU3z - WP "How Israel helped create Hamas" July 2014
https://www.ynetnews.com/article/bk8mgcefr - "In a 2018 letter, Netanyahu asks Qatar to fund Hamas for $30 million a month"

Cribbed from https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy...as_funding_hamas_via_qatar/l2ts3vp/?context=3

This is the kind of schizo take I love seeing on this site.
How?

>the israeli deep state uses their intel agency to create their enemy (Hamas)
>fund them under the table
>have them cause a mass casualty event
>be aware of it but do nothing to stop it
>get the populous up arms
>destroy your enemy with manufactured consent

The people at the top of Hamas are sitting pretty somewhere while their foot soldiers are being slaughtered by the thousands. These elites (Bibi) are getting old and want to have Gaza and the rest of the ME before they die.

Israeli officials obtained Hamas’s battle plan for the Oct. 7 terrorist attack more than a year before it happened, documents, emails and interviews show.

Hamas followed the blueprint with shocking precision. The document called for a barrage of rockets at the outset of the attack, drones to knock out the security cameras and automated machine guns along the border, and gunmen to pour into Israel en masse in paragliders, on motorcycles and on foot — all of which happened on Oct. 7.

Officials privately concede that, had the military taken these warnings seriously and redirected significant reinforcements to the south, where Hamas attacked, Israel could have blunted the attacks or possibly even prevented them.
 
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https://archive.is/iPO3z - WSJ "How Israel Helped to Spawn Hamas" Jan 2009
https://archive.is/onU3z - WP "How Israel helped create Hamas" July 2014
https://www.ynetnews.com/article/bk8mgcefr - "In a 2018 letter, Netanyahu asks Qatar to fund Hamas for $30 million a month"

Cribbed from https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy...as_funding_hamas_via_qatar/l2ts3vp/?context=3


How?

>the israeli deep state uses their intel agency to create a problem
>fund them under the table
>have them cause a mass casualty event
>be aware of it but do nothing
>get the populous up arms
>destroy your enemy with manufactured consent

The people at the top of Hamas are sitting pretty somewhere while their foot soldiers are being slaughtered by the thousands.


So Israel gave money to a predecessor organization to Hamas that was not violent to be a rival to the violent PLO, and stopped when it became violent. But I know the troof, it was the Jews' plan all along!

Israel urged Qatar to give humanitarian aid to Gaza to alleviate conditions there - wait I thought Israel was supposed to want to make life intolerable to Gazans. Which is it?

Israeli intelligence obtained a plan of Hamas' that it did not take seriously. But I know the troof, it was the Jews' plan all along! Does this extend to every other case of military intelligence being ignored, to the woe of the ignorers?

Israel has always had the military strength to destroy Gaza's ability to wage war... but it preferred Gaza being an open sore indefinitely to gain political advantages, which it never gained because the world hates Israel! I thought Jews were pretty smart, after 20-30 years of the plan failing wouldn't they try a different plan?

You poltards are really something. Trust the plan
 
Shut up Jew. You should recuse yourself from anything Israel-related or at least put a big yellow sticker on your posts so people know not to listen to anything you have to say.
Seethe harder. I've been here for a few years and I'm not going to shut up because A+H got overrun by /pol/ rejects like you.

https://archive.is/iPO3z - WSJ "How Israel Helped to Spawn Hamas" Jan 2009
https://archive.is/onU3z - WP "How Israel helped create Hamas" July 2014
https://www.ynetnews.com/article/bk8mgcefr - "In a 2018 letter, Netanyahu asks Qatar to fund Hamas for $30 million a month"


How?

>the israeli deep state uses their intel agency to create a problem
>fund them under the table
>have them cause a mass casualty event
>be aware of it but do nothing
>get the populous up arms
>destroy your enemy with manufactured consent

The people at the top of Hamas are sitting pretty somewhere while their foot soldiers are slaughterd by the thousands.


When Israel first encountered Islamists in Gaza in the 1970s and '80s, they seemed focused on studying the Quran, not on confrontation with Israel. The Israeli government officially recognized a precursor to Hamas called Mujama Al-Islamiya, registering the group as a charity. It allowed Mujama members to set up an Islamic university and build mosques, clubs and schools. Crucially, Israel often stood aside when the Islamists and their secular left-wing Palestinian rivals battled, sometimes violently, for influence in both Gaza and the West Bank.
When it became clear in the early 1990s that Gaza's Islamists had mutated from a religious group into a fighting force aimed at Israel -- particularly after they turned to suicide bombings in 1994 -- Israel cracked down with ferocious force. But each military assault only increased Hamas's appeal to ordinary Palestinians. The group ultimately trounced secular rivals, notably Fatah, in a 2006 election supported by Israel's main ally, the U.S.

So exactly what I said before, Hamas was a charity organization that presented itself as peaceful and then as soon as it became violent Israel attempted to crack down on it.


https://www.ynetnews.com/article/bk8mgcefr - "In a 2018 letter, Netanyahu asks Qatar to fund Hamas for $30 million a month
Because Netanyahu was a retard and thought that improving the economic situation in Gaza would fuel anti Hamas sentiments.

>the israeli deep state uses their intel agency to create a problem
>fund them under the table
>have them cause a mass casualty event
>be aware of it but do nothing
>get the populous up arms
>destroy your enemy with manufactured consent

The people at the top of Hamas are sitting pretty somewhere while their foot soldiers are being slaughtered by the thousands.
Sinwar is hiding in a tunnel while the leaders of Hamas are in qatar living in luxury like before. Your whole idea of this being funded by the mossad for manufactured consent is absolutely retarded because the Israeli government was heavily focused on the West Bank. This was a giant embarrassment for Israel and ruined its global standing for the benefit of ????.

Did Israel also choose to allow Egypt and Syria to invade in 73?
 
This was a giant embarrassment for Israel and ruined its global standing for the benefit of ????.
This was not a part of their plan. They expected nothing to happen other than the world to give them unconditional support. The elites think they're the smartest people in the room and can control the will of god.
 
This was not a part of their plan. They expected nothing to happen other than the world to give them unconditional support. The elites think they're the smartest people in the room and can control the will of god.
Why would they expect that? Israel never has had unconditional support from the world. Look at the Yom Kippur war where Israel was stopped from finishing off the Egyptian third army or the mass blockades in 1947
 
Why would they expect that? Israel never has had unconditional support from the world. Look at the Yom Kippur war where Israel was stopped from finishing off the Egyptian third army or the mass blockades in 1947
I meant the west. Not the world. I misspoke. But when in the last 50 years has israel gotten actual punishment for their actions? IMHO, its mostly been slaps on the wrist.
 
I meant the west. Not the world. I misspoke. But when in the last 50 years has israel gotten actual punishment for their actions? IMHO, its mostly been slaps on the wrist.
Israel gets threatened by the US, instantly complies, rinse and repeat. See Reagan's phone calls to Begin regarding Lebanon where he tears Begin a new asshole. It's why Israel didn't destroy the third army of Egypt or do anything actually effective against the Palestinians in the last 20 years, instead choosing to mow the lawn every few years.
 
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