Ukrainian Defensive War against the Russian Invasion - Mark IV: The Partitioning of Discussion

[DumbDude43]

A 17 year old member of the Ukrainian National Basketball team was also murdered in Germany. Why the hell is Germany so dangerous for Ukrainians?

 

[Pocket Dragoon]

Finally, more marine drone action!

Russians deploy anti-drone potato sack in Ukrainian strike on Vuzka Bay

And mount an air-to-air R-73 missile on another Sea Baby:

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Edit: back when their larger drones started showing up, I distinctly remember noticing & pointing out some structures that looked suspiciously like rocket or ATGM launchers, but got shouted down by milspergs who insisted there's no way anything like that could be integrated onto a small, boat-sized marine drone.


While I thought surely it would be possible with some ATGMs, I definitely didn't figure they'd try with fucking AA missiles; but it does makes sense they would if they could. And it would also explain some of the mysterious Russian aircraft losses.

 

[No. 7 cat]

Youtube post

Vet Ryan McBeth posts a video of Ukrainian speaking men dressed as soldiers burning Pres Trump in effigy. Russian academic Dr Ksenia Turakova analyses it and suggests the accent is very much Russian. Also provides a useful note on Pres Obama's passivity when Crimea was taken. Minor sanctions and some blankets and goggles sent to Ukraine. Putin probably was astounded on how easy it proved to be. Trump's advisor on the region Dr Sebastian Gorka outlines how it was instead considered appropriate for the Trump Administration to send useful lethal aid, not raining down bombs or landing troops, but sending Javelins as a equalizer when a Ukrainian faced some Russian T series tank. I could attach and embed yesterday so the Youtube video will have to do. The substack post also carries Dr Gorka's paper 'Surgical Strength'. Ryan speculates that perhaps Obama could've reacted more strongly and things might've been different.

Honestly Putin must've thought Biden would soil himself and babble, and the EU would send a stern letter. Obama is clever while Biden is in a state of decline. Putin must also have seen the rest of the European leaders from Scholz to Macron and thought this is it.

 

[Sargon's wife's son]

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I wonder when people would start posting this morons videos this guy is what you get if you make the left wing equivalent of Colonel McGregor
a mediocre military commander who has no notable achievements and has to degrade himself to being a talking head for some foreign country.

 

[Ghostse]

Edit: back when their larger drones started showing up, I distinctly remember noticing & pointing out some structures that looked suspiciously like rocket or ATGM launchers, but got shouted down by milspergs who insisted there's no way anything like that could be integrated onto a small, boat-sized marine drone.

I just figured the USVs wouldn't have a good way to lock targets with out making the drone C&C too expensive, and wouldn't want to waste limited supplies of missiles on disposable drones.

 

[World in Scarlet]

motorcycle abandoned during the assault in the Bilohorivka area, where a pallet was used as a sidecar to transport assault infantry

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A Russian motorbike assault near Novomykhailivka was destroyed with drones.

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Russian vehicle drives over a mine and explodes spectacularly.

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Today the best crew of the best died on this board.

Zhenya and Volodya.
Experienced, trained, flown, combat crew.
Died in battle, died as warriors.

Aircraft number 21.
The same one that's on the photo, in drawings, paintings and models.
Many of the stars on its left side are mine.

Eternal flight, brothers.
My condolences to family, friends and comrades-in-arms.

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Allegedly it served in Syria.

 

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Russian vehicle drives over a mine and explodes spectacularly.
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It flipped the BMP if you cant tell.

Rather odd. Considering mines have been just as much of a problem if not moreso than drones for Russian armor they dont really seem to have done much in the way of countering them in the past 2+ years now.

 

[World in Scarlet]

Useless news from Russia:

The 2nd Western District Military Court has started the trial of former acting platoon commander Sergeant Dmitry Lobovikov. He is accused of killing seven fellow soldiers and attempted murder of ten others. According to the military investigation, after celebrating the New Year on 14 January, the sergeant drunkenly tried to reprimand his subordinates, and then threw a grenade into their sleeping quarters, which detonated flammable gas cylinders. The sergeant himself claims that the explosion of the grenade occurred accidentally, when he lost consciousness, and in addition, as a result of the accident he had to heal his wounds for several months.

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The court approved a 5.5-year prison sentence for 72-year-old pensioner Yevgeniya Maiboroda for two reposts on VKontakte [russian equivalent to facebook]

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She had already been fined several times for posts calling for peace and expressing a poor opinion of Putin before she was finally taken offline for her latest crimes. People get off with lesser sentences for violent crimes if they are veterans; having served in the SMO is recognized as a mitigating circumstance in Russian courts. More than 100 Russians were killed by veterans so far.


Dmitry Malyshev, a famous cannibal from Volgograd, was released from prison and went to the special military operation zone in Ukraine. 10 years ago, what he had made a splash across Russia: The man killed a Tajik guest worker he knew, cut out his heart, roasted it with vegetables and ate it. He filmed the procedure of dismemberment, preparation and the meal itself on video. For this and numerous other crimes he was sent to prison for a quarter of a century, but now he performs special combat missions and publishes photos in his social networks with another no less famous criminal - a murderer-dismemberer from Volzhsky, Alexander Maslennikov, who brutally massacred two girls from a nightclub.

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"How would you feel if your little daughter was told in primary school how to put on a condom? Or men walking down the street and licking each other? Is that normal for you? For me it is not normal." -t. murderer, cannibal, friend of a rapist and slayer of women, champion of Russian values
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The Moscow regime apparently bombed Belgorod yet again.

Official publications were uncertain as to whether the attack could be blamed on Ukraine, so reporting referred vaguely to an "explosion" without giving reasons.
This is highly atypical, normally it is immediately claimed that it was the result of an Ukrainian attack. When it happened, the Muscovite air force was bombing Kharkiv, and there was no air alarm in Belgorod.
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Regarding the declaration of the British government that cruise missiles and other arms can be used against targets within the internationally recognized borders of Russia:

“It’s a new round of escalation,” Peskov said, referring to what the Kremlin regarded as provocative statements. “It’s unprecedented and requires special attention and special measures.”

Russia’s Foreign Ministry summoned both the French and British ambassadors. It urged the British ambassador “to think about the inevitable catastrophic consequences of such hostile steps from London.”

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Medvedev:

They also call for the active use of their missile weapons, supplied by them to the Banderites, throughout the territory of Russia.

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The Russian government formally annexed Crimea into the Russian Federation back in 2014, and the region has generally been considered properly Russian soil. Apparently the Kremlin has moved away from that position and degraded it to the status of merely occupied territory, similar to the also formally annexed four regions of Ukraine that were legally part of Russia since 2022, but were in practice never treated as such by anyone, including the Russian government. Crimea was hit by American, British, French and Italian cruise missiles countless times, which is in line with the western position on the status of the territory, but the sudden outcry of the Russian government suggest they actually agree.

I checked the map of the Southern Military District, and it appears the regions were added to it again when the districts were re-organized this February.

This is significant because the regions had already been added to the Southern Military District back in February 2023, but were quietly removed at some point between spring and summer 2023. They came back again just in time for the Kremlin to publicly reject their Russian-ness. Is this bullying?

 

[Astro Galactic Megalul]

The fact that I counted at least 4 violent pedophiles that Putin pardoned for participation in the war is already disheartening
Not only they lacked decency to die on the battlefield, but people around them lacked common sense to rectify this problem as well.
Is this the trad values I keep hearing about?

 

[teriyakiburns]

Russia’s Foreign Ministry summoned both the French and British ambassadors. It urged the British ambassador “to think about the inevitable catastrophic consequences of such hostile steps from London.”

Russia's Final Warning.

 

[No. 7 cat]

I wonder when people would start posting this morons videos this guy is what you get if you make the left wing equivalent of Colonel McGregor
a mediocre military commander who has no notable achievements and has to degrade himself to being a talking head for some foreign country.

McBeth makes supportable claims on mis info whereas McGregor has long ago gone off with the fairies. McBeth was a Seargent First Class on retirement so would've hardly be called a commander except on a small scale.

The fact that I counted at least 4 violent pedophiles that Putin pardoned for participation in the war is already disheartening
Not only they lacked decency to die on the battlefield, but people around them lacked common sense to rectify this problem as well.
Is this the trad values I keep hearing about?

I suppose Putin has to show love and compassion to his fellow kiddie diddlers. The respect the Russians show to twice convicted pedo Scott Ritter (a lavish parade and reception in Grozny) suggests the rulers of Russia are friends to chomos, hence Ritter's fervent allegiance.

 

[Pocket Dragoon]

A closer look at the Ukrainian Magura drones with R-73 missiles:

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Assuming they're using one of these...

R-73 - Standard model with ±40° off-boresight.
R-73E - Export version of the standard model with ±45° off-boresight. The missile has a maximum range of 30 kilometres (19 mi) with 8 kg warhead.

And given:

The R-73 is an infrared homing (heat-seeking) missile with a sensitive, cryogenic cooled seeker with a substantial "off-boresight" capability: the seeker can detect targets up to 40° off the missile's centerline.[6] It can be targeted by a helmet-mounted sight (HMS) allowing pilots to designate targets by looking at them. Minimum engagement range is about 300 meters, with maximum aerodynamic range of nearly 30 km (19 mi) at altitude.

Along with the way they're mounted and being all-aspect, I'd say they could be dangerous & useful (assuming it functions) in an ambush-type attack, and could also be used to escort standard marine drones on the way to target. Neat.

What I wonder about is the method of targeting, and how they went about adapting them to the drone's system; it's definitely the sort of smekalka I can get behind.

 

[Sargon's wife's son]

McBeth makes supportable claims on mis info whereas McGregor has long ago gone off with the fairies. McBeth was a Seargent First Class on retirement so would've hardly be called a commander except on a small scale.

And there comes the neoconservative trotskyite new speak it's just called propaganda

the fact of the matter is we don't need to send one red cent to Ukraine The United states could have very easily dealt with this problem in 2014 but Obama was too busy screwing up the Middle East and Libya and giving Moy Geo strategic wins to Russia by doing so.


All it would have taken would be a small show of force sailing a US carrier strike group into the Black Sea and politely telling Russia to withdraw its troops out of Ukraine.

But Nope thanks to Obama there's now nearly 2 million dead people if you take the high estimates of the casualties on both sides which I don't I think Russia and Ukraine are completely making things up Ukraine killed 2000 Russian soldiers the Russians lost 3000 soldiers people thought the Spanish republican army was dishonest.

If I have to guess Ukraine is probably lost about 300,000 soldiers the Russians probably about 400,000 Russia has a much larger population so they can better cope with massive losses Ukraine not so much

this war is proving why you should never die industrialize your country and why tube artillery is still the king of the battlefield.

Ukraine is losing the being pushed back on all fronts probably due to the fact that trying to fight NATO style military campaign without overwhelming air cover and combine arms it's not gonna end well but I look forward to the next failed offensive of the Ukrainian military because no one wants to deploy American troops even though we have every ability to do so due to the treaty the United States and Russia and the United Kingdom all are signatories to

 

[Gnillik Yot]

Damm, I got a crush on the anti-war, anti-Putin Russian woman who killed the pro-Putin blogger.

 

[No. 7 cat]

Ukraine is losing the being pushed back on all fronts

That's a bit of a wild over statement. Putin's red hordes have added some towns and villages to that strip of blood, rubble and mud they've controlled since around early '22. That's it. US aid has resumed, which should help restore Ukrainian initiative. Even if not, Putin's war of conquest is deeply pathetic.

 

[Bunny Wigglesworth]

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A Russian motorbike assault near Novomykhailivka was destroyed with drones.
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Blyatzkrieg. The Ziggers saw this working for Jihadi Niggers griefing African forces armed with banana cannons & thought it would work against a modernized near-peer army. Monke see Monke do.

 

[Snekposter]

Bold of you to assume even if given a non-broken one or fuck it plans they'd be able to replicate it in any meaningful way.

Hey, they managed to reverse-engineer Sidewinder from a single captured missile.

And the complete blueprints for it one of their spies in Sweden gave them.

That article mentioned absolutely nothing about building actual new ADDITIONAL ordnance/ammo plants. All that money thats been spent is at best upgrading ancient relic infrastructure from WW2 that should have already been long replaced. Its not genuinely adding capacity to arms and ammo manufacturing.

Get back to me when we build lake city #2 along side lake city #1. These upgrades to existing infrastructure is pissing on a wildfire of requirement for a genuine conflict. We need 10x as much current capacity.

I don't think you understand just how massive these places are. The Lima Tank Plant sprawls over 370 acres and the main production building is 970,000 square feet. Lake City is the single largest ammo plant in the world. From September of 1941 to August of 1945 it produced 5.7 billion rounds of ammo. We don't need to build a second one if the first is modernized.

so tl;dr the crews love it, it has a few flaws (chiefly weight and mechanical problems) and it's currently being used as a bunker buster and infantry support vehicle

I legitimately don't know why you Bongs keep pretending its an MBT when everyone with a brain knows its the Churchill Mk VII resurrected for the modern day.

Rather odd. Considering mines have been just as much of a problem if not moreso than drones for Russian armor they dont really seem to have done much in the way of countering them in the past 2+ years now.

They really can't. Mine protection requires armor (to absorb and deflect the blast) and internal room (to hopefully have the blast go into as much empty space as possible), and the BMP has neither the spare weight nor spare space. If they decided to replace that giant-ass gun with something smaller and more practical they'd be able to increase protection, but as far as the Russians are concerned that 100mm gun-launcher is the entire reason the BMP-3 exists. The BMP series has been so heavily min-maxed for amphibious travel and high speeds that even armoring the sides against 12.7mm+ rounds will slow it down to Bradley speeds and eliminate amphibious capability, removing one of its few advantages for no clear gain since its still going to be Bushmaster bait, but now slower and with even fewer chances to evade fire.


God, I love Community Notes.

 

[DumbDude43]

Rather odd. Considering mines have been just as much of a problem if not moreso than drones for Russian armor they dont really seem to have done much in the way of countering them in the past 2+ years now.

what could possibly be done to 'counter' mines? except for "just don't drive where there are mines haha" memes of course

 

[No. 7 cat]

God, I love Community Notes.

That dood Alex Oloyede is Nigerian. Strangest zigger (there one or two West African dictators, but they're in it for the money and Macron is too timid to restore those states to la Francophonie which Mitterand or Pompidou would've done without a second thought - these countries need European guidance). He should go to Moscow and experience being a nigger.

 

[Snekposter]

what could possibly be done to 'counter' mines? except for "just don't drive where there are mines haha" memes of course

V-hulls and crumple zones. An MRAP will hit a mine, have a front quarter get wrecked but repairable, and everyone leaves the vehicle okay whereas a BMP and everyone inside of it has a good chance of looking like an empty beer can after a frat party.