Are you getting the vaccine? - Absolute trashfire thread, please enter with caution

#lurker said:
So a plane that was built with failing safety procedures (as said by whistleblowers) is now safe because an unrelated licensed pilot (who had no participation in the manufacturing process) flies the plane?
All due respect sir, but that makes zero sense.
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That's not what I was saying... I see reading is difficult for you with your intellectual disability, but let me break it down for you. You claim that you know more about medicine than medical professionals because you listen to Tucker Carlson and Alex Jones and sometimes medical professionals make mistakes. Sometimes pilots make mistakes (even when not using a Boeing aircraft). When you fly, do you go into a cockpit and tell the pilot that you should be flying the plane because you listen to Tucker Carlson and sometimes pilots make mistakes, so thus you know more about flying than they do?

Mankirk said:
I'll settle for an ineffective piece of shit that still brings permanent damage to your body for temporary and partial protection from the sniffles. That's where your researchers and scientists have settled the science. Do you feel really good arguing with Qtards over a vaccine that was proven to be worthless after the government threatened people's ability to put food on the table when they wouldn't take it and sign a form releasing Pfizer et al. from any and all legal liability? You sure keep a lot of boots well licked, brother.
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It wasn't proven worthless, though. That's the thing. In fact just the opposite. You gotta stop believing everything Alex Jones and Tucker Carlson tell you. I understand you have an intellectual disability and thus believe everything you read on the internet, but have some dignity man.

Every vaccine has the vaccine manufacturer not liable. I know you're a proud low intellect simpleton who hates education, but let me tell you why that is the case. Vaccines are a huge benefit for society, so it's in society's best interest that pharmaceutical companies make vaccines. They wouldn't do so if they could be easily sued for minor side effects that may not even be caused by the vaccine.

It's rich when a guy who gets his viewpoints from Fox News and thinks he should pay more in taxes so that the rich shouldn't have to pay taxes is calling someone else a bootlicker :story:
 
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Hollywood Hulk Hogan said:
That's not what I was saying... I see reading is difficult for you with your intellectual disability, but let me break it down for you. You claim that you know more about medicine than medical professionals because you listen to Tucker Carlson and Alex Jones and sometimes medical professionals make mistakes. Sometimes pilots make mistakes (even when not using a Boeing aircraft). When you fly, do you go into a cockpit and tell the pilot that you should be flying the plane because you listen to Tucker Carlson and sometimes pilots make mistakes, so thus you know more about flying than they do?
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Sir, you are not understanding analogy. If Doctors are Pilots, then Boeing is Pfizer. A Pilot could have a million flight hours to their name, it doesn't suddenly make an unsafe plane safe.
 
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#lurker said:
Sir, you are not understanding analogy. If Doctors are Pilots, then Boeing is Pfizer. A Pilot could have a million flight hours to their name, it doesn't suddenly make an unsafe plane safe.
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Who says there's no use for unsafe planes though?
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#lurker said:
Sir, you are not understanding analogy. If Doctors are Pilots, then Boeing is Pfizer. A Pilot could have a million flight hours to their name, it doesn't suddenly make an unsafe plane safe.
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Except the covid vaccine isn't unsafe. Now, stop dodging my question like it's a formal education: Since you think experts are always wrong and don't know as much as you do about their chosen field, do you tell pilots to let you fly the plane instead of them because Tucker Carlson told you planes are bad and pilots are all part of big airplane?
 
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#lurker said:
That's what Boeing says about their planes too.

I'll answer your question with a question; if a Pilot tells you the latest Boeing planes are safe, do you trust his word over the recent revelations?
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You're still dodging my question like it's a non-bible based education :story:

Again, I know you love Fox News and trust whatever they say without question, but they are lying to you. They even admitted it under oath. The vaccine is safe and effective, despite what Tucker Carlson told you. Despite what you claim, you don't know more about medicine than medical professionals.
 
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Hollywood Hulk Hogan said:
The vaccine is safe and effective
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You need to update your script

COVID-19 Vaccination

COVID-19 vaccines protect against COVID-19. Get safety info and more.
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COVID-19 vaccine recommendations have been updated as of October 3, 2023 to add 2023-2024 updated Novavax COVID-19 vaccine. The content on this page will be updated to align with the new recommendations. Learn more.
At the April 19, 2023 meeting of the Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices, CDC presented data related to further analyses of a preliminary safety signal for persons ages 65 years and older who received the updated (bivalent) Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine in one safety monitoring system, the Vaccine Safety Datalink (VSD). Other safety monitoring systems have not observed similar findings. As time has passed and more safety data have accumulated, the initial finding has decreased, and scientists believe factors other than vaccination might have contributed to the initial finding. The current evidence does not support the existence of a safety issue. FDA and CDC will continue to evaluate data as they are available and update the public as needed.
Safety of COVID-19 Vaccines
Some people have no side effects. Many people have reported side effects—such as headache, fatigue, and soreness at the injection site—that are generally mild to moderate and go away within a few days.
Are the Vaccines Safe?

What You Need to Know​

  • The benefits of COVID-19 vaccination continue to outweigh any potential risks.
  • Severe reactions after COVID-19 vaccination are rare.
  • CDC recommends everyone ages 6 months and older get vaccinated to protect against COVID-19 and its potentially severe complications.
  • Millions of people in the United States have received COVID-19 vaccines under the most intense safety monitoring program in U.S. history.
  • CDC, the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA), and other federal agencies continue to monitor the safety of COVID-19 vaccines.

Anaphylaxis after COVID-19 Vaccination​

Anaphylaxis after COVID-19 vaccination is rare. It has occurred at a rate of approximately 5 cases per one million vaccine doses administered. Anaphylaxis, a severe type of allergic reaction, can occur after any kind of vaccination. If it happens, healthcare providers can effectively and immediately treat the reaction. Learn more about COVID-19 vaccines and allergic reactions, including anaphylaxis.
CDC scientists have conducted detailed reviews of cases of anaphylaxis and made the information available to healthcare providers and the public.
Scientific Publications about Anaphylaxis following COVID-19 Vaccination

Reports of Deaths after COVID-19 Vaccination​

Multiple factors contribute to reports of death after COVID-19 vaccination, including heightened public awareness of COVID-19 vaccines, requirements under FDA authorization for COVID-19 vaccines that healthcare providers report any death after COVID-19 vaccination to VAERS (even if it is unclear whether the vaccine was the cause), and reporting requirements in CDC vaccine provider agreements. People receiving COVID-19 vaccines are less likely to die from COVID-19 and its complications and are at no greater risk of death from non-COVID causes, than unvaccinated people.
CDC scientists and partners have performed detailed assessments of deaths after COVID-19 vaccination and made the information available to healthcare providers and the public.
Scientific Publications about Death following COVID-19 Vaccination

Guillain-Barré Syndrome (GBS) after COVID-19 Vaccination​

GBS is a rare disorder in which the body’s immune system damages nerve cells, causing muscle weakness and sometimes paralysis. GBS has largely been observed among people ages 50 years and older.
Based on an analysis of data from the Vaccine Safety Datalink (VSD), the rate of GBS within the first 21 days following J&J/Janssen COVID-19 vaccination was found to be 21 times higher than after Pfizer-BioNTech or Moderna (mRNA) COVID-19 vaccination. After the first 42 days, the rate of GBS was 11 times higher following J&J/Janssen COVID-19 vaccination. The analysis found no increased risk of GBS after Pfizer-BioNTech or Moderna vaccination.
Similarly, CDC found higher than expected rates of GBS reported to VAERS after J&J/Janssen COVID-19 vaccination but not after mRNA COVID-19 vaccination. These observations contributed to the preferential recommendation by the Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices (ACIP) to use mRNA COVID-19 vaccines over the J&J/Janssen COVID-19 vaccine, which is no longer available in the United States.
CDC and FDA will continue to monitor for and evaluate reports of GBS occurring after COVID-19 vaccination and will share more information as it becomes available.

Myocarditis and Pericarditis after COVID-19 Vaccination​

Myocarditis and pericarditis after COVID-19 vaccination are rare. Myocarditis is inflammation of the heart muscle, and pericarditis is inflammation of the outer lining of the heart. Most patients with myocarditis or pericarditis after COVID-19 vaccination responded well to medicine and rest and felt better quickly, and most cases have been reported after receiving mRNA COVID-19 vaccines.
To date, evidence indicates that the benefits of mRNA COVID-19 vaccination outweigh the risk of myocarditis. CDC and FDA will continue to monitor for and evaluate reports of myocarditis and pericarditis after COVID-19 vaccination. Learn more about myocarditis and pericarditis, including clinical considerations, after mRNA COVID-19 vaccination.
Data from VSD and from VAERS indicate that rates of myocarditis after COVID-19 vaccination are highest among males in their late teens and early 20s, usually following the second dose of the vaccine.
CDC scientists have conducted detailed reviews of cases of myocarditis and pericarditis after COVID-19 vaccines and have made the information available to healthcare providers and the public.
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And before you get cute saying this proves it is safe and effective, can you tell me if the vaccine will stop me from getting (and spreading) COVID? I get that you are just a bad faith contrarian trying to own the cons, but you would be more safe and effective if your rants reflected the current medical consensus.

Particularly interesting is the age group most affected by myocarditis is the age group least threatened by COVID itself.
 
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Mankirk said:
You need to update your script

COVID-19 Vaccination

COVID-19 vaccines protect against COVID-19. Get safety info and more.
www.cdc.gov www.cdc.gov



And before you get cute saying this proves it is safe and effective, can you tell me if the vaccine will stop me from getting (and spreading) COVID? I get that you are just a bad faith contrarian trying to own the cons, but you would be more safe and effective if your rants reflected the current medical consensus.

Particularly interesting is the age group most affected by myocarditis is the age group least threatened by COVID itself.
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Actually it does prove it's safe. The CDC takes their job seriously and lays out the risk of side effects, which are very rare (as shown in your own link).

Again, I understand you have severe autism so thus you have trouble with things that are not 100% or 0%, but just because something isn't 100% effective doesn't make it 0% effective. It's common in people with crippling autism, which explains why you have trouble with this concept.

I know you hate everything to do with education like a good little bible thumping boomer, but it's okay to admit that people who study a subject know more than you about said subject, even if you listen to Tucker Carlson.

When you need surgery, do you tell the doctor that you'll just do it yourself? After all, you have said you know more about medicine than medical professionals because you listen to Alex Jones.
 
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Hollywood Hulk Hogan said:
You're still dodging my question like it's a non-bible based education :story:

Again, I know you love Fox News and trust whatever they say without question, but they are lying to you. They even admitted it under oath. The vaccine is safe and effective, despite what Tucker Carlson told you. Despite what you claim, you don't know more about medicine than medical professionals.
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Your analogy doesn't make sense. Nobody is trying to take over the controls of the plane. We simply don't want to fly on the plane.
 
#lurker said:
Your analogy doesn't make sense. Nobody is trying to take over the controls of the plane. We simply don't want to fly on the plane.
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Except you're saying that you know more than medical professionals because you watch Tucker Carlson, despite the fact you hate everything to do with learning and education and you're clearly intellectually disabled. I am pointing out how retarded that makes you sound.

So I was wondering if the same applies to pilots.
 
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#lurker said:
Where did I say that?
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When you say that the vaccine is super deadly, while doctors say it isn't. You're saying you know more about medicine than doctors do. At least now you're maybe realizing how retarded you are being.

Wesker said:
Where did anyone say they seek medical advice from Alex Jones or Tucker Carlson? Yet that doesn't stop that fat nigger from stating that.
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Except you clearly do. You listen to Tucker Carlson (who is vaccinated by the way) and he tells you VACCINE BAD so you blindly believe it like a good elderly Fox News viewer. I know you elderly bible thumpers love to be grifted, but you should at least look up people who you take medical advice from.
 
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Hollywood Hulk Hogan said:
When you say that the vaccine is super deadly, while doctors say it isn't. You're saying you know more about medicine than doctors do. At least now you're maybe realizing how retarded you are being.


Except you clearly do. You listen to Tucker Carlson (who is vaccinated by the way) and he tells you VACCINE BAD so you blindly believe it like a good elderly Fox News viewer. I know you elderly bible thumpers love to be grifted, but you should at least look up people who you take medical advice from.
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