Debate @Omori Boy on the existence of autogynephilia - Resident Troon Claims He Is Not A Pervert

[Montalbane]

Failed males are all pathetic in the same way.
Are they factory made or something?
Is this a continuation of MK Ultra?
MK ultroon maybe?

 

[Vibe_Guy]

I see @AgendaPoster's and @Mr Bones Wild Ride techniques aren't having their intended effect. So let's try a different method.

Hi @Omori Boy , did you have a good day today? Sit down on that gaming chair, friend. Lay down if you'd like. Now...


Now tell me. How are you feeling? Had any irregularities with your sleep schedule?

I assure you everything you say during this session is between you, me and the entirety of AT. No twitter or tumblr here. This is a safe space. You can open up. Trust.

 

[Ultrapenguin]

This is hilarious. I love when transphobes try to pathologize randos.

Well the diagnosis isn't hard to make when someone sits in chat making comments about how much they love being a cock sucking faggot, and feel the need to show people their gross doughy man tits to get off.
Or do you just spend so much time in depraved little tranny e-hangouts that you've lost touch with what normal casual behavior looks like?

I've noticed how desperate you are to justify all this, and it makes it obvious you know full well the gender BS is ridiculous. You could just stop drop this silly shit you know, it's that easy.

You can try to argue and rationalize all you want, we aren't going to be the ones who wind up paying the consequences end, you're just playing yourself.

 

[vomitusdeux]

I see @AgendaPoster's and @Mr Bones Wild Ride techniques aren't having their intended effect. So let's try a different method.

Hi @Omori Boy , did you have a good day today? Sit down on that gaming chair, friend. Lay down if you'd like. Now...
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Now tell me. How are you feeling? Had any irregularities with your sleep schedule?

I assure you everything you say during this session is between you, me and the entirety of AT. No twitter or tumblr here. This is a safe space. You can open up. Trust.

Now to introduce my method.
Hey did you poop wound yourself yet or what? Are you going for the stink ditch or do you want to hold on to your manhood?

 

[AgendaPoster]

He moobed out of the thread

 

[Omori Boy]

The subject of the thread is "Debate @Omori Boy on the existence of autogynephilia" - the topic/motion from you being "Autogynephilia isn't real". You are the affirmative for this motion and I am arguing against this motion as the opposition. The burden of proof lies with you as the affirmative.

AGP is a part of Blanchard's typologies, something which he has publicly stated was because he wanted to know why he was sexually attracted to some trannies and not others. Obviously he was having issues with his sexuality and so had to go through mental gymnastics to totally not be gay. Obviously I cannot prove a negetive, the burden of proof lies on the person who believes in the positive. And seeing as AGP gets thrown at every single tranny despite the definition, it makes sense you just use it the same way you would use "woke" or "communist" or "liberal". Also I didn't start this thread, I made a couple comments in chat and it got posted like a day later because a certain someone has trannies living rent-free in their mind.

Anything I sourced as evidence you would just deny as biased anyway.

I've already displayed the capability to understand that an article or source is unbiased, my guess here is your source is just biased and you know I'd act accordingly.

I love it more when degenerate tranny fags call me a transphobe as if I care.

I called you a transphobe because that is what you are, it's a descriptor, just like we are both Kiwi Farms users. Anyways I don't look at porn (for pleasure, I will laugh my ass off at shiteaters and furries and what-not). I don't give a shit about sex or being seen like a sex object, it's gross and only a man could be capable of thinking like this. Anyways you fat Mexican, you can try you're gay arguing on your own, I'm gonna answer actual, HARD HITTING questions.

Sex in humans is very simple and straightforward.

Sex for humans is determined by a single gene. You either have a functioning SRY gene or you don't. Things can go wrong after SRY activates, but you'll still either have no gonads or testes. Even if they are internal testes.

It is a binary.

Well this is well thought out and smart, please Google search "What types of intersex conditions are there". Again, it's a binary, but there is more than just "one" type of intersex condition.

Well the diagnosis isn't hard to make when someone sits in chat making comments about how much they love being a cock sucking faggot, and feel the need to show people their gross doughy man tits to get off.
Or do you just spend so much time in depraved little tranny e-hangouts that you've lost touch with what normal casual behavior looks like

I am an expert sex haver. I have A TON of sex, so much that I my fibromyalgia flairs up. It's awful. It's great.

Now to introduce my method.
Hey did you poop wound yourself yet or what? Are you going for the stink ditch or do you want to hold on to your manhood?

I'm pioneering a new surgery that doesn't make a neo-vagina but instead it just makes a Y junction so that there's two buttholes. So I can shit twice as fast.

 

[vomitusdeux]

I'm pioneering a new surgery that doesn't make a neo-vagina but instead it just makes a Y junction so that there's two buttholes. So I can shit twice as fast.

gee bill, how come your mom lets you have TWO buttholes?

 

[JethroTullamore]

@Omori Boy is fat and I would not have sex with him.

 

[Gog & Magog]

Also I didn't start this thread, I made a couple comments in chat and it got posted like a day later because a certain someone has trannies living rent-free in their mind.

oooh oooh he's talking about me

 

[TheBigZee]

Well this is well thought out and smart, please Google search "What types of intersex conditions are there". Again, it's a binary, but there is more than just "one" type of intersex condition.

Absolutely all of them result in testes/no testes vs. ovaries. Medicine might support the treatments you are recieving as being helpful to you, but claiming that science supports you shows you've been seriously mislead about what you're being treated for .


Your example, Kleinfelters (XXY) isn't considered an intersex condition. It gets included by activists to dramatically inflate the number of people with intersex/DSD conditions as a justification for making dramatic changes to taxanomy for inclusivity. The articles that claim kleinfelters is a DSD are written by sociologists talking outside their area of expertise to promote an agenda. They are published in "peer reviewed" journals as op-eds, and they are used to influence public opinion and policy.

There is nothing ambiguous about Kleinfelters. They are male.

The reason is because essentialism - the idea that sex is the foundation of gender is what scienctific evidence truly supports.

Most pro-gender sociologist/psychologists are Constructivists. This is a philisophical belief, not a scientific one. They are desperately trying to label essentialism as non-scientific.

The same phenomenon existed in the discussions around sports. People claimed "science" supported trans inclusion when in fact it did not support inclusion on grounds of fairness.

Please don't do anything to your genitals unless you need an orchiotemy b/c of the hormones.

 

[Omori Boy]

he reason is because essentialism - the idea that sex is the foundation of gender is what scienctific evidence truly supports.

Gender isn't a scientific thing, it's a societal thing. So there is no way that science would support gender being anything other than a societal reflection of sex.

Most pro-gender sociologist/psychologists are Constructivists. This is a philisophical belief, not a scientific one. They are desperately trying to label essentialism as non-scientific.

Because it isn't. Pretty simple. Same way that language isn't a science but is definitely a thing that humans do to communicate. It's based off of real things (our ability to make noises, and to modulate our mouths, and to listen and understand it. Again, not science.

Your example, Kleinfelters (XXY) isn't considered an intersex condition. It gets included by activists to dramatically inflate the number of people with intersex/DSD conditions as a justification for making dramatic changes to taxanomy for inclusivity.

You're right, and this caused issues. while many intersex activists do not claim people with Turners or Kleinfelters syndrome as intersex, under the DSD definition they *are* included, and the medical field prefers that classification more.

The articles that claim kleinfelters is a DSD are written by sociologists

DSD came about to group those conditions together, the group that created the DSD definition was made up of 48 doctors and other medical personal and two non-medical personnel (one was a Intersex Activist).

 

[Prophetic Spirit]

-sneeding-

I'm gonna write one thing and you should take it & shove it up your ass:
Eres una mierda despreciable.

 

[Abimelech]

gee bill, how come your mom lets you have TWO buttholes?

Sounds to me like this perv has been listening to waaaayyyy to much Magic Tavern.

 

[AgendaPoster]

Because it isn't. Pretty simple. Same way that language isn't a science but is definitely a thing that humans do to communicate. It's based off of real things (our ability to make noises, and to modulate our mouths, and to listen and understand it. Again, not science.

Biological essentialism is essentially a slur used to smear people that are simply describing objective reality.
It used to be used for racial differences, and race is actually far muddier and more complex, sex is simply not.
You literally have nothing to lose if you just admit the truth to yourself, at least.
In the end you'll still HRT and hell knows what else, and you will always know that you're male, your body will non stop remind you that. You're just refusing to conform to that, which is quite insane, but it's your choice since you've had the fortune to be born someplace in the "civilized" *spits* world.
All that matters is that we can MEASURE your sex.
In fact, all we need is radiological data, bones, and a medic can tell it with almost 100% accuracy, and with the help of an AI, full 100%.
Not even need for genetic data, or reproductive organs, just bone structure, various tissue placement/size/density, and it's enough.

 

[❤️ Rivet ❤️]

I love when transphobes try to pathologize randos.

If people online stopped trying to pathologize people they dislike we'd lose at least half of posts on the internet.

 

[Seafarer]

If people online stopped trying to pathologize people they dislike we'd lose at least half of posts on the internet.

It’s also a prominent Lolcow trait to get upset about people “obsessing over me”, like you put yourself out on the Internet of course people are going to analyze you. Nick Rekieta comes to mind.

 

[TheBigZee]

Gender isn't a scientific thing, it's a societal thing. So there is no way that science would support gender being anything other than a societal reflection of sex.

Because it isn't. Pretty simple. Same way that language isn't a science but is definitely a thing that humans do to communicate. It's based off of real things (our ability to make noises, and to modulate our mouths, and to listen and understand it. Again, not science.

You said science supported you though when you responded to @AgendaPoster . Did I misunderstand?

You're right, and this caused issues. while many intersex activists do not claim people with Turners or Kleinfelters syndrome as intersex, under the DSD definition they *are* included, and the medical field prefers that classification more.

DSD came about to group those conditions together, the group that created the DSD definition was made up of 48 doctors and other medical personal and two non-medical personnel (one was a Intersex Activist).

It did not come about to "put them together". It came about to provide guidelines on how to best treat disorders of sexual development.

In the meantime, anyone who disagreed was subject to intense harassment/career destruction by creepy heterosexual activists like Andrea James.

See what's happening with the Cass report.

 

[Omori Boy]

It’s also a prominent Lolcow trait to get upset about people “obsessing over me”, like you put yourself out on the Internet of course people are going to analyze you. Nick Rekieta comes to mind.

We know a ton about Rekieta. You know one irl characteristic of me and nothing else.

You said science supported you though when you responded to @AgendaPoster . Did I misunderstand?

He said the acceptance of trans people (known as transsexualism or trans agenda among the delusional) in medical field and society at large, is a direct attack on society and medicine, and is meant to destabilize these two based off of some lie. Of course this makes no sense when the vast majority of doctors, psychologists, and scientists agree with current standards and almost all opposition comes from unqualified persons and a select few medical professionals.

It did not come about to "put them together". It came about to provide guidelines on how to best treat disorders of sexual development.

And the medical community found that it's better to group them together.

In the meantime, anyone who disagreed was subject to intense harassment/career destruction by creepy heterosexual activists like Andrea James.

Rightfully so, can't have people providing medical care when they deny reality.

See what's happening with the Cass report.

AAHHH THAT'S THE ONE I'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS ENTIRE TIME!!! Thanks for reminding me of the name of it. As mentioned earlier in the thread, it reads like something Graham Hancock wrote. Someone who has an agenda to push and who's report reads like a scorned ex or a QAnon-tier conspiracy theorist.

 

[Mr Bones Wild Ride]

I'm a big fan of mass debating (lel) so I was going to rebut Omori Boy point by point.

However, reading through his latest responses is giving me /r/GCdebatesQT flashbacks and that whole ordeal was a colossal waste of GC's time and effort.
I have absolutely no intention of devoting what precious few hours in the day I possess to shitpost and catch up on my lolcows engaging in it again.

Trannies are fucking insane and, because of this, they cannot be reasoned with.
It didn't matter how much evidence we provided, or statistics, or anything else - the result was always the same:

1) Appeals to authority.
Self explanatory and something @Omori Boy
is doing right now - ALL OF SCIENCE AND MEDICINE AGREES WITH HIM. He also says science isn't about gender because it's a societal condition/construct. I assume this is his fall-back position for when the science argument stops working so he can pivot to philosophical arguments or an appeal to emotion.

2) Walls of text containing dozens of links to studies.
Yet, once you read through, you realise that these studies don't actually substantiate the trannies claim/s at all.
This is either due to small sample size, poor methodology, lack of follow up, bad statistics in the results, contradictory statements in the discussion, leading to extrapolation in the abstract. Because troons only read the (free) extracts - they are often not aware of these issues. Pointing any of the above out leads to

3) Goalpost shifting and denying/downplaying/dismissing anything and everything that contradicts their insanity.
Despite the previous tactic of appealing to authority and claiming that ALL of science/medicine is in agreement with their position suddenly all evidence you produce to invalidate their claims is biased/unsound/not trustworthy.
Every scientist/medical researcher who backs them up = good.
Every scientist/medical researcher who backs you up = bad.

4) Appeals to emotion
Usually executed via a defeatist argument - "I'm not hurting anyone, I'm just trying to live my life, this is the only thing that helps me".
However, this is the Kiwifarms and our sympathies are limited so other tactics need to be deployed.

He has been flippant/facetious in all of his responses in an attempt at humour in the hope that we stop attacking him.
He's also attempting to deflect from his debauchery and curry favour by attacking Null - "Yeah, I posted my gynecomastia in DMs but lmao DAE agree that Null is a fat manlet who can't get laid because his cock don't work"

What he failed to understand from my post is that, even if Null continues to be a maladjusted sexless obeast midget living in Balkan exile, none of that is actually worse than being a tranny.

The best course of action against trannies is to inform and educate people around you about the hazards they inflict on society, vote accordingly, and don't participate in or encourage any forms of troonage in your life.

I'm not going to say that people here should stop engaging with him - but keep in mind that he is a lonely troon and is likely getting off on the continued interactions.

Now, @Omori Boy:

You will never be anything but a male playing pretend in his head. Nothing but a shameful perverted caricature of a real woman.

Your short miserable life will continue to be plagued by your delusions ensuring that what little time left you have walking this earth will be full of disappointment, pain, and mockery.

When you die your true biological sex will still be known and nobody will care about the fictitious delusions you had in your head.

You are a vile and detestable creature - the amalgamation of the worst of mankinds hubris and immorality.
A physical manifestation of your contempt and outrage at civilised society.

However, please continue to post embarassing shit on here so that we all may continue to laugh at you.

 

[vomitusdeux]

@Omori Boy is fat and I would not have sex with him.

Let he who is without fat cast the first flub.