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They look like the 17th most popular new wave band from Grand Rapids.A gook, a troon, and a boomer depressed faggot! What a shocker!
>BritishA new study was published this month, on the Kiwi Farms by a British University, and they will do a live conference over it next month.
Totally neutral study, no biases to be seen here. No examples of such "hate and harassment" given, other than "trust me bro".Drawing on several quantitative data sources, we show that deplatforming an active community to suppress online hate and harassment, even with a substantial collective effort involving several tech firms, can be hard.
>Kiwi Farms competitor Lolcow FarmOur case study is the disruption of the largest and longest-running harassment forum KIWI FARMS in late 2022, which is probably the most extensive industry effort to date. We collected complete snapshots of this site and its primary competitor LOLCOW FARM, encompassing over 14.7M posts during their lifespan over the past decade.
No definition of the word "toxicity".It also drew many newcomers, who exhibited increasing levels of toxicity during the first few weeks of participation.
>By arresting themDeplatforming a dispersed community using a series of court orders against individual service providers appears unlikely to be very effective if the censor cannot incapacitate the key maintainers, whether by arresting them, enjoining them or otherwise deterring them.
kysSome cases of stalking, bullying, and doxxing such as Gamergate have had real-world consequences, including violent crime as well as political mobilisation [2].
These wannabe chaser "academics" are actually comparing us to fucking criminal DDoS-for-hire services, terrorists and mass shooters. They somehow shoehorned The Silk Road in as well. How any of this is relevant is beyond me because they have yet to cite a single verifiable case of crimes being committed by the site/users. Demented.as when Cloudflare terminated service for the Daily Stormer after the Unite the Right rally in Virginia in 2017
Notice how slimy these fucks are? "Culminating", they're implying we've swatted HIM while retaining plausible deniability.This came to an end following serious harassment by forum members of a Canadian trans activist, culminating in a swatting incident in August 2022.
Oh look, Reddit, where people admit to swatting, identity theft, sending deliveries, hacking etc without a single bit of backlash from these freaks.There are many examples: the Reddit ban of r/incels in November 2017 led to the emergence of two standalone forums, incels.is and incels.net, which then grew rapidly; users banned from Twitter and Reddit exhibit higher levels of toxicity when migrating to Gab [36]; users migrated to their own standalone websites after getting banned from r/The Donald expressed higher levels of toxicity and radicalisation, even though their posting activity on the new platform decreased [44], [45]; the ‘Great Deplatforming’ directed users to other less regulated, more extreme platforms [46]; the activity of many right-wing users moved to Telegram increased multi-fold after being banned on major social media [37];
Notice how they had a citation for XenForo but zero to back up their claims of "being harassed by the site's users"?XenForo, a closesource forum platform, revoked its license in late 2021 [51]. DreamHost stopped its domain registration in July 2021 after a software developer killed himself after being harassed by the site’s users.
Okay. As someone who's against swatting, who sent this "malicious alarm"? Surely, you have the evidence. What is his/her username here and what is the proof? I am certain whoever this is will be banned from the site.The disruption studied in this work was started by the online community in 2022. A malicious alarm was sent to the police in London, Ontario by a forum member on 5 August, claiming that a Canadian trans activist had committed murders and was planning more, leading to her being swatted [54].
>Citation hiddenIn a separate paper, we tested the reliability of Similarweb data with a comparison to millions of ground truth traffic records collected from our own infrastructure over 6 months, showing that while Similarweb largely underestimates the amount of traffic, it is able to capture trends with a very high correlation (Pearson’s coefficient > 0:9) [citation hidden].
Good.Our work was formally approved by our institutional Ethics Review Board (ERB) for data collection and analysis. Our datasets are collected on publicly available forums and channels, which are accessible to all. We collected the forum when it was hosted in the US; according to a 2022 US court case, scraping public data is legal [62].
How does SimilarWeb measure traffic?Before Cloudflare’s action on 3 September, traffic towards KIWI FARMS (measured by Similarweb) was relatively steady, mostly occupied by the primary domain. However, we see the Streisand effect (as also seen in Figure 3) with an immediate peak in traffic of around 50% more visits and 85% more visitors once the site was disrupted.
Oh?They were actively maintaining infrastructure, fixing bugs, and giving instructions to users to deal with their passwords when the forum experienced a breach.
Right, so the forum activity follows the Pareto Distribution, just like literally any other "social media" style site and forum.KIWI FARMS activity is highly skewed, with around 80%12 of pre-disruption posts made by 8.96% most active users (5 15, while the remaining 20% posts were made by the 91.04% less active
Let's have a look at [21]. Though they should have defined this dubious word right in the abstract. How did this piece of gargled circle jerk get published again?Toxicity Levels: KIWI FARMS has the most toxic posts among 12 extremist forums measured in previous work [21].
[21] A. V. Vu, L. Wilson, Y. T. Chua, I. Shumailov, and R. Anderson, “Extremebb: Enabling large-scale research into extremism, the manosphere and their correlation by online forum data,” arXiv preprint arXiv:2111.04479, 2021.
>12 extremist bulletin board forums promoting online hate, harassment, the manosphere and other forms of extremism.We introduce ExtremeBB, a textual database of over 53.5M posts made by 38.5k users on 12 extremist bulletin board forums promoting online hate, harassment, the manosphere and other forms of extremism. It enables large-scale analyses of qualitative and quantitative historical trends going back two decades: measuring hate speech and toxicity; tracing the evolution of different strands of extremist ideology; tracking the relationships between online subcultures, extremist behaviours, and real-world violence; and monitoring extremist communities in near real time. This can shed light not only on the spread of problematic ideologies but also the effectiveness of interventions. ExtremeBB comes with a robust ethical data-sharing regime that allows us to share data with academics worldwide. Since 2020, access has been granted to 49 licensees in 16 research groups from 12 institutions.
Are you kidding me? Extremism? I can't even be bothered to look them up. The same applies to the rest of the list. A quick search on Amazon and YouTube reveals millions of subjects pertaining to makeup artistry, modelling, fashion and so on.LOOKISM. This consists of the two largest forums on techniques to enhance male physical beauty, ranging from non-invasive methods such as styling and workouts to extreme ones involving cosmetic surgery, synthetic hormones, and skin-lightening products. This is strongly linked to the incel subcultures, with users often entangled with misogyny involving a stereotype of female superficiality that requires men to invest in a masculine appearance.
I thought you just asserted:We are continuing to monitor the forum; it seems to be gradually recovering. There is a lack of data on real-world harassment caused by forum members, such as online complaints or police reports, so we are unable to measure if the campaign had any effect in mitigating the physical and mental harm inflicted on people offline.
Yeah, this is a crime and an example of real-world harassment. Where's the proof, Anh, Alice and Ross? Show us.The disruption studied in this work was started by the online community in 2022. A malicious alarm was sent to the police in London, Ontario by a forum member on 5 August, claiming that a Canadian trans activist had committed murders and was planning more, leading to her being swatted [54].
A few bad actors:If some of a forum’s members break the law, are they a dissident organisation with a few bad actors, or a terrorist group that should be hunted down? Many troublesome organisations do attract hot-headed young members, and activists from animal-rights activists and climate-change protesters through to trade union organisers do occasionally fall foul of the law.
Wait, I'm pretty sure Null isn't the founder? These idiots probably think Tesla was founded by Elon Musk too. In 3 years, Xitter is now founded by Elon Musk.In this case, the KIWI FARMS founder denounced SWAT harassment and other blatant criminality [50]. Indeed, a competent provocateur will stop just short of the point at which their actions will call down a vigorous police response.
- China bans material criticising/mocking national heroesOther countries are more restrictive, with France and Germany banning Nazi symbolism and Turkey banning material disrespectful of Mustafa Kemal Atatürk.
Want to know how China was able to implement laws against spreading rumours?Following the tragic suicide of a teenage girl, tech firms are under pressure to censor such material in the UK using their terms of service or by tweaking their recommendation algorithms.
>It's a private companyHowever, deplatforming KIWI FARMS or any other customers does not violate the principle of free speech. It is essentially a contractual matter; they have the right to cease their support for a website that violates their policies. Infrastructure providers may occasionally need to work expediently with law enforcement in the case of an imminent threat to life.
>Escalating threatsCloudflare attempted to collaborate with law enforcement to sort out the case of KIWI FARMS, yet the process could not keep up with the escalating threats and it ended up taking unilateral action, relying on its terms of service [26].
Great, what a banger idea. Ideally, an international body that is unelected, unregulated, nobody gets to vote on, can decide what should and what should not be hosted online.In an ideal world, we would have an international legal framework for taking down websites that host illegal content or that promote crime; unfortunately, this framework does not exist.
Like the monkey torturers and dog rapists we put in prison, right?And then there’s a vast swamp of fake news, animal cruelty, conspiracy theories, and other material that many find unpleasant or distressing, and which social networks moderate for the comfort of both their users and their advertisers.
Sane take by three sane "researchers".Legislators who propose to ban an online community might consider precedents such as Britain’s ban on Provisional Sinn F´ein from 1988–94 due to its support for the Provisional IRA during the Troubles, or the bans on the Muslim Brotherhood enacted by various Arab regimes.14 Declaring a community to be illegal and thus forcing it underground may foster paranoid worldviews, increase signals associated with toxicity and radicalisation [44], [36] and have many other unintended consequences. The KIWI FARMS disruption, which involved a substantial effort by the industry, is perhaps the best outcome that could be expected even if the censor were agile, competent and persistent. Yet this has demonstrated that merely trying to deplatform an active online community is not enough to deal effectively with online hate and harassment.
Wow, I missed this particularly horrible piece of shit in a sea of feces. Cloudflare "attempted to collaborate with law enforcement"? Really? Show me the fucking police reports, the subpoenas, the court orders as it relates to us. You can't, because Matthew Prince didn't pull the plug due to a genuine deadly threat, he pulled it because he's a pussy faggot who doesn't actually believe in what he says his company's principles are.Cloudflare attempted to collaborate with law enforcement to sort out the case of KIWI FARMS, yet the process could not keep up with the escalating threats and it ended up taking unilateral action, relying on its terms of service [26].
Very data-driven too. Thanks, Alice Hutchings.Hypothesis: Kiwi Farms is a harassment website
Evidence: There is no direct link to real life harassment originating from the Kiwi Farms. Further users attempting to harass individuals in real life are routinely banned.
Conclusion: Kiwi Farms is the worst harassment site to ever exist.
Great stuff. Very science. Much critical thinking.
Of course, the only source cited is Matthew Prince's "trust me, bro!" blog which doesn't substantiate its own claims. The only thing Matthew Prince links in the body of his blogpost is his prior blogpost (linked three separate times for some reason) and nothing else. Which law enforcement bodies were approached, which posts were provided to them, and the ultimate findings of those posts being sent to law enforcement haven't surfaced after years.Wow, I missed this particularly horrible piece of shit in a sea of feces. Cloudflare "attempted to collaborate with law enforcement"? Really? Show me the fucking police reports, the subpoenas, the court orders as it relates to us. You can't, because Matthew Prince didn't pull the plug due to a genuine deadly threat, he pulled it because he's a pussy faggot who doesn't actually believe in what he says his company's principles are.
I'm honestly surprised we haven't been blamed for his death...yet.Ross J. Anderson
"I have been literally dead for a whole month."
This guy's dead so I'm not going to bother linking anything related to him besides this article about him being dead.
A new study was published this month, on the Kiwi Farms by a British University, and they will do a live conference over it next month.
Gott strafe England.Page one with a lie-
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Fuck these disingenuous dweebs.
Talking shit online about the Dread Pirate Roberts is harassment. It doesn't matter if xhe actually exists or not, or if what is being said is actually true. Their feelings could be hurt and that's all that matters.How did they harass Byuu, who lives in Japan as an Anon?
What are the examples of said harassment? Did he get sushi deliveries? Did the Japanese police pin him to the ground with their pitchforks? Anything to show?
Here you go:Apparently Ahn Vu and Alice Hutchings did a podcast on the difficulty on deplatforming hate groups a couple weeks ago, going over specifically Kiwi Farms as an example. The podcast hosts are too lazy and retarded to write their own copy:
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Can't see any straightforward way to archive the audio currently.
[54] “Trans Twitch streamer Keffals says she was swatted and arrested by police in Ontario,” 2022. [Online]. Available: https://nbcnewsThe disruption studied in this work was started by the online community in 2022. A malicious alarm was sent to the police in London, Ontario by a forum member on 5 August, claiming that a Canadian trans activist had committed murders and was planning more, leading to her being swatted [54].
Okay. As someone who's against swatting, who sent this "malicious alarm"? Surely, you have the evidence. What is his/her username here and what is the proof? I am certain whoever this is will be banned from the site.
Or you're just making shit up.
Wait it's not this one?This paper was preprinted a year ago, and we discussed it then:
Someone needs to capture it for fair use purposes.$31.30 to attend digitally, payment options are all credit card
Tempted to watch for the lulz