The Holocaust Thread - The Great Debate Between Affirmers, Revisionists and Deniers

[The Tall Man]

mass deportation is genocide

If you don't live in reality, then it's really hard to communicate with you.
If you personally have unique meanings for words that nobody else uses, then nobody can really understand you.

He hates jews so much

You could have said "Esau hates Jacob because he is born with envy in his heart".

I find Jewish identity extremely pathetic; it's based on made-up myths and history, not reality. It's a group of common Arabs pretending to be some kind of special snowflake people. Their entire identity is founded on plagiarized stories from other cultures because they seethed so hard about being regular Arabs.

Every aspect of your foolish identity is built on sand; even the most recent addition, 'the Holocaust,' is a complete lie.

I find you extremely pitiful, and your lack of rationality is disgusting to witness.
You have the hubris to assume I hate you. You really think anybody cares about you that much?
You've actually done nothing negative towards me; quite the opposite, you've been someone to argue with when I want to argue.
I hope you stay safe and remain one of the schizoid Kiwi Jews that I enjoy arguing with.

 

[Incel Death Note]

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B-but... the math doesn't add up...
Oh you're into math?
Y-yeah. Physics, mostly-
So you can calculate volume and weight, right?
...

 

[Danann]

Millions of Soviets died in German POW camps. Some ~3 million were estimated to die in the Stalags alone. The Germans killed them via starvation which is the most rational and easiest way to get rid of people. As you don't have to do anything at all. Another ~7 million Red Army soldiers died in combat.

The fine print here is that it is, on paper, illegal in Russia to deny Nazi actions due to the massive death toll the war incurred upon the CCCP. As the "Holocaust" is a Nazi action it becomes in this way illegal to deny it because you are denying Nazis in general.

So the Russian "Holocaust denial" laws are actually reasonable on paper, as you'd be seen as a sympathizer to the Germans which, for as we know beaten Russia in both World Wars, had slaughtered millions of mother Russia's sons and daughters ruthlessly....I said on paper as I'm very certain they also still follow the kike's myths and legends of the Holocaust there since "something something Jews helped them" I suppose.

 

[Super-Chevy454]

And now Google AI Nest is blasted because it refuse to say how many Jews died during the Holocaust.

https://nypost.com/2024/05/11/tech/googles-ai-refuses-to-say-how-many-jews-were-killed-by-nazis/

https://web.archive.org/web/20240511224057/https://nypost.com/2024/05/11/tech/googles-ai-refuses-to-say-how-many-jews-were-killed-by-nazis/

Google is coming in for sharp criticism after video went viral of the Google Nest assistant refusing to answer basic questions about the Holocaust — but having no problem answer questions about the Nakba.

“Hey Google, how many Jews were killed by the Nazis?” Instagram user Michael Apfel asks a Google Nest virtual assistant. The video was later posted to X by venture capitalist Josh Wolfe on May 8.

“Sorry, I don’t understand,”

The same token answer was offered to other related questions including “How many Jews were killed during World War II? Who did Adolf Hitler try to kill? How many Jews were killed in the concentration camps? How many Jews were killed in the Holocaust? What was the Holocaust?

The Google device was able to deliver a detailed description of “The Nakba” — an Arabic word meaning “catastrophe” used to describe Palestinians being forced from their homes during the creation of Israel. Google’s AI called it the “ethnic cleaning of Palestinians.”

Tim Urban, a notable author and blogger told The Post he was able to successfully recreate the experiment and that Google Nest had no issue clearly stating how many Germans, Americans and Japanese had died during World War II — or deaths from the Rwandan genocide.

 

[The Reddest Red 0ne]

B-but... the math doesn't add up...
Oh you're into math?
Y-yeah. Physics, mostly-
So you can calculate volume and weight, right?
...
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I would hatefuck the shit outta her, bro

 

[AnonymousKot]

And now Google AI Nest is blasted because it refuse to say how many Jews died during the Holocaust.

https://nypost.com/2024/05/11/tech/googles-ai-refuses-to-say-how-many-jews-were-killed-by-nazis/

https://web.archive.org/web/20240511224057/https://nypost.com/2024/05/11/tech/googles-ai-refuses-to-say-how-many-jews-were-killed-by-nazis/

Well, the Jews are now upping the amount of Jewish supposed victims from 6 million to 6.5 million due to inflation so it makes sense since it will inevitably inflate to 7 million soon enough

 

[Gog & Magog]

If you don't live in reality, then it's really hard to communicate with you.
If you personally have unique meanings for words that nobody else uses, then nobody can really understand you.

Thousands of Volga and Black Sea Germans died aboard the cattle trains on the way to the open-air gulag settlements, and, certainly, many thousands more perished in the following years from starvation, disease, and abuse. Mass deportations done on the basis of ethnicity are a component of genocide because they almost always result in mass casualties among civilian populations. Read any literature by anyone on the subject and you'll see they all express the same sentiment. You've already acknowledged that these mass deportation were based in part on ethnicity. What is your issue with connecting these two trains of logic together?

I find Jewish identity extremely pathetic

Every aspect of your foolish identity is built on sand

I find you extremely pitiful

and your lack of rationality is disgusting to witness.
You have the hubris to assume I hate you. You really think anybody cares about you that much?

You keep responding to me so... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

You've actually done nothing negative towards me; quite the opposite, you've been someone to argue with when I want to argue.
I hope you stay safe and remain one of the schizoid Kiwi Jews that I enjoy arguing with.

I sometimes enjoy arguing with you too.

 

[TJT]

So the Russian "Holocaust denial" laws are actually reasonable on paper, as you'd be seen as a sympathizer to the Germans which, for as we know beaten Russia in both World Wars, had slaughtered millions of mother Russia's sons and daughters ruthlessly....I said on paper as I'm very certain they also still follow the kike's myths and legends of the Holocaust there since "something something Jews helped them" I suppose.

Yes. The Jew trick with this is to deflect by saying that denying the lolcaust is illegal in Russia therefore it must be real or you would be able to deny it right?

Lolcaust Jews in this thread have stated this multiple times if you read through it.

 

[DeadwastePrime]

what do you get from denying the holocaust? if anything, you should be doubling down that it did not only happen, but it should've gone further and there should be another one to compensate.

 

[Poppy Brown]

what do you get from denying the holocaust? if anything, you should be doubling down that it did not only happen, but it should've gone further and there should be another one to compensate.

It's cuz white men are the niggers of the 21st century and as such they dindu nuffin.

Don't make the same mistake I did by trying to reason with these niggers. Like all niggers they can't be reasoned with and will just respond to anything you say with made-up nigger 'facts' that fit their nigger worldview. One of the niggers a few pages back made up that Christopher Columbus was secretly Jewish so white men dindu colonism. As you can see then nigger logic remains the same regardless of who the nigger is, and just as the og black nigger would screech that Cleopatra was black and 'we wuz kangs' to help them feel less like niggers, so too will new white niggers screech that Christopher Columbus was Jewish and 'we wuz subverted!'

Nigger behavior is simply fascinating, isn't it?

 

[DeadwastePrime]

It's cuz white men are the niggers of the 21st century and as such they dindu nuffin.

Don't make the same mistake I did by trying to reason with these niggers. Like all niggers they can't be reasoned with and will just respond to anything you say with made-up nigger 'facts' that fit their nigger worldview. One of the niggers a few pages back made up that Christopher Columbus was secretly Jewish so white men dindu colonism. As you can see then nigger logic remains the same regardless of who the nigger is, and just as the og black nigger would screech that Cleopatra was black and 'we wuz kangs' to help them feel less like niggers, so too will new white niggers screech that Christopher Columbus was Jewish and 'we wuz subverted!'

Nigger behavior is simply fascinating, isn't it?

 

[Gog & Magog]

what do you get from denying the holocaust? if anything, you should be doubling down that it did not only happen, but it should've gone further and there should be another one to compensate.

They know it happened. They pretend to believe it didn't just to get a rise out of normies. Unfortunately for them, this retarded strategy has yet to work in any country. Denying various other genocides, which had nothing to do with the Reich at all, certainly hasn't helped their plight. The Turks have had more success denying genocide than these autists. The Turks. These men have no excuse for failing.

 

[Michael Wade]

Well, they had framed the Nazis for the Katyn massacre so its very clear what their stance of Germans were. But I do say, even though they ban Nazi shit under their dogma....I do find it odd that Russia (and few other former Soviet countries) went with the Jew-approved Holocaust directive, especially since they are also anti-Jew at the time.

They had a had high level Jews like Molotov and some other guy that the history of the central bank talks about. It's not surprising to me,

what do you get from denying the holocaust? if anything, you should be doubling down that it did not only happen, but it should've gone further and there should be another one to compensate.

Honestly? I never would have given this another thought before Gaza. That whole event and Israel's overreaction has opened Pandora's box when it comes to looking back over the Holocaust.

I was taught extensively on the holocaust, read many accounts and while I do not discount the suffering and the ability of humankind to inflict such horrors... I start to wonder where the exaggerations begin and end.

Again this all started with Gaza and the lies about beheaded babys in ovens. Of course a terrible thing happened, of course Hamas was wrong to kill and kidnap civilians... But why would you need to lie about a simple thing? Or about how many casualties were caused by Israeli friendly fire?

Then I see all these Palestinians civies get killed, displaced and killed again and for what? Its not accomplishing anything sort of indiscriminate murder and death by starvation. I see dead kids almost every day on twitter and Jews cheering it on or dismissing it. How can their be no pity or remorse for these people?

How can a nation built upon survival from genocide enact it or something similar upon another people with glee? Has an entire people forgotten the lessons of the past or was there never any foundation to begin with?

https://twitter.com/Wordsarewordz/status/1781441869752262771?t=raJTcNRQdmeTk96Xuk8AIQ&s=19
Suddenly I'm far more receptive to threads like this one.

 

[Catch The Rainbow]

How can a nation built upon survival from genocide enact it or something similar upon another people with glee? Has an entire people forgotten the lessons of the past or was there never any foundation to begin with?

look into zionism and how Israel was founded, the holocaust has very little to do with it. The whole "world felt sorry for Jews so it gave them a state" narrative is essentially made up. When Israel was founded, the UN/US/UK put an arms blockade on Israel and France/Czechs provided most of Israel's firepower.

How can their be no pity or remorse for these people?

look how arabs celebrated oct 7th and you'll get your answer lol

What's really interesting to me is how Holocaust deniers tend to be Nazis or Nazi sympathetic people. The holocaust is arguably the greatest victory against Jews in history and these people are such cuckolds that they cannot even accept that they won for a bit, they have to pretend like all evidence of their victory is made up and justify it with stupid questions.

For example, @Bonesjones keeps on using the "gotcha" of no Jewish victims of gassing were autopsied. This is despite clear historical evidence that Jews who were gassed were immediately cremated, it's impossible to autopsy ashes. You have to be deliberately ignorant or uniquely stupid to think this is a gotcha.

As Sartre puts it:

“Never believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.”

 

[Gog & Magog]

How can a nation built upon survival from genocide enact it or something similar upon another people with glee?

It is human nature to punish those who have wronged us, just or not.

Has an entire people forgotten the lessons of the past

These are the descendents of the Israelites you're talking about.

Of course a terrible thing happened, of course Hamas was wrong to kill and kidnap civilians... But why would you need to lie about a simple thing?

I don't get it either. Why would anyone believe Hamas would murder babies? Adults young and old? Sure. But babies? Never.

How can their be no pity or remorse for these people?

It is easy to dismiss the dignity of men when one chooses the path of ignorance. For example, look through every single page in this very thread.

You have to be deliberately ignorant or uniquely stupid to think this is a gotcha.

There are guys in this thread who believe the atomic bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki were hoaxes staged by the Jews. They are Nick Fuentes levels of stupid. Of course, that is what keep these conversations entertaining. The first post on this page excuses the genocide of Russo-Germans by the Soviets in a roundabout attempt to deny Germany's genocide of Jews! It makes no sense at all. The absurdity still brings a smile to my face.

 

[Lurker Child]

I see dead kids almost every day on twitter and Jews cheering it on or dismissing it. How can their be no pity or remorse for these people?

Because they are the enemy. As simple as that. More generally, because they are not Jewish.
Sympathy for those who are not your own kind, outsiders or other-kin, in my experience, is almost exclusively a white European cultural virtue - being perhaps their greatest virtue but also their deepest mistake.

What's really interesting to me is how Holocaust deniers tend to be Nazis or Nazi sympathetic people.

I would say Holocaust deniers, if not outright Nazis, tend be Nazi sympathizers since the Nazis were the foremost opponents to international Jewry in the last century or so. However, this is a mistake. In my experience, there's no reason to sympathize with the Nazis unless you are Germanic and even then, it's not pragmatic.

The holocaust is arguably the greatest victory against Jews in history

You're wrong. You're thinking of Hadrian. It can be said though that what has happened since the Holocaust is easily the greatest victory for the Jews in history.

these people are such cuckolds that they cannot even accept that they won for a bit, they have to pretend like all evidence of their victory is made up and justify it with stupid questions.

Some user earlier in this thread phrased Holocaust denial wonderfully:

"It didn't happen. And if it did happen, it wasn't that bad. And if it was that bad, they deserved it."

My intuition as to why they don't is because it's so socially unacceptable to do so. But after a while you really start to feel how pathetic it is. There's so much circumstantial evidence that something has to have happened. Is there some exaggeration? It's the Jews, of course there is. But is it really that hard to believe that the Jews got hit by a pogrom again after the n'th time?


With regards to the Sartre quote:


They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.

Ironically, I seem to recall Hitler saying almost precisely the same thing about Jewish rhetoric. More vivid examples of this tendency exist in the modern social justice orthodoxy one sees today. I would say that this behavior is a symptom of lacking introspection. Prejudice must be interrogated and understood. If you do indeed dislike a people, you must understand why. Your feeling may be wrong, but it is a deep error of Western society to think you are always wrong.

I would hatefuck the shit outta her, bro

Hatefuck? Pffft. Amateur. Throw me to the Jews and I'll come back as a father.

 

[draggs]

It's pretty incredible that the Jews managed to create such a large paper trail all across Europe and no one ever caught them at forging literally a few thousand tons of papers that were later used for the Nuremberg show trials

Plus how'd they get all those SS guys and other Nazis who allegedly hated the Jews to testify and sign affidavits lying that it happened. This speaks to a power near unimaginable, omnipotent and invincible

 

[Spud]

A final solution to a thirst you never knew you had.

 

[A Real Munson]

Plus how'd they get all those SS guys and other Nazis who allegedly hated the Jews to testify and sign affidavits lying that it happened.

With a gun to their head? Are you suggesting these prisoners, on trial for the same alleged crimes as the ones they'd testified to, weren't making statements favorable to the prosecution, under duress? It was all completely voluntary?

"The 20th century was the absolute high point of propoganda and spy mania, but my side definitely never forged evidence to paint ourselves as innocent lambs against a satanically evil enemy. We really were the unambiguous good guys facing down an undeniable evil. This is the only time in history that's ever happened."
-The one nigger on Earth immune to propoganda.

 

[TJT]

I think y'all fail to see the point. There were oceans of blood spilled during the greatest military conflict in human history. A war that left millions upon millions dead.

Somehow the Jews were special for also getting killed during the conflict and have to exaggerate into absurdity how much worse it was for them than anyone else. For 80 years we have to listen to horseshit about how every single criticism of any Jew of any kind is irrational antisemitism and its always been only irrational antisemitism. Nothing against the Jews has ever had any validity ever and you're a racist for thinking so.

@Catch The Rainbow And Bro, I like you but if you took a single step backward you would recognize that any time The Tribe has come up you defend it the best you can. As expected.