Liz Fong-Jones / Elliot William Fong / @lizthegrey - 'Consent accident' enjoyer, ex-Google employee, nepotistic sex pest, Robert Z'Dar look-alike who wants authority over the Internet

[Temperance]

Nowadays, whenever Liz Fong-Jones talks about his activism at Google, he usually brings up how he heroically opposed Project Maven and Project Dragonfly. These were morally-dubious projects that Google execs were pushing, but the rank-and-file Google employees revolted & refused to work on them. This made me suspicious. We all know what Liz is like. I didn't believe for a second that he would altruistically protest for a good cause when he wouldn't personally benefit from it. There was definitely more to the story.

So... I looked through a bunch of old news articles where Liz Fong-Jones was mentioned. Let's see if we can piece together what happened.

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Oh look! It turns out that Liz's activism at Google was actually mainly focused on DEI: https://www.fastcompany.com/90250497/the-inclusion-advocate-liz-fong-jones

Spoiler: Full article - Worth Reading!

How a transgender Google engineer fights prejudice with empathy​

Liz Fong-Jones, a Google Cloud Platform engineer, has been a passionate advocate of inclusion–for employees and users–since 2010: “Employee organizing [in tech] is not new. It’s just [this] public manifestation of it that is.”

“Employees at Google have been fairly vocal about making sure that the company upholds its pledge to not be evil,” says Liz Fong-Jones
. The Google Cloud Plat
form engineer has played a role in Trump-era activism by assisting the 2016 Never Again pledge. Her code made it easier to verify the identities of over 2,800 signatories who promised not to work on discriminatory or otherwise harmful projects, such as a hypothetical “Muslim database.” Fong-Jones calls it one of the first times that tech workers publicly united across companies to stand up for their ethical values in how technology is used.

But she has been standing up within Google as an inclusion advocate–for employees and users–since 2010 (two years after joining the company). “Employee organizing [in tech] is not new,” she says. “It’s just [this] public manifestation of it that is.”

Fong-Jones began with a focus on equity engineering–flagging and working to remedy cases in which products don’t meet the needs of marginalized communities. A simple example would be insuring accessibility for vision- or hearing-impaired users, but it can extend to addressing harmful technologies, as Never Again sought to do.

Fong-Jones expanded her advocacy from customers to employees, focusing on the needs of minority populations inside Google, including her own transgender community. “Our medical coverage previously placed limits on the dollar value of coverage trans people could receive,” she says. “[People were] being forced to pay tens of thousands of dollars out of their own pockets.” That’s one of many employee issues she’s taken on, including gender pay equity, performance-review reforms, and increasing opportunities for advancement.

While her advocacy work has always subjected her to tension, the environment grew much more hostile in August 2017, shortly after James Damore’s “Ideological Echo Chamber” memo, questioning the innate ability of women to be engineers, went viral inside the company. (Damore was soon fired.)
Google has fostered an open culture, encouraging employees to discuss nearly any interest in fora like Google Groups, email lists, the Google+ social network, a meme generator, and regular all-company meetings. But institutions meant to bring employees closer together are now pushing them apart.

Fong-Jones became a public target when part of a Google+ conversation criticizing the publishing of Damore’s memo was leaked to an alt-right blog. Thus began a process of targeting Fong-Jones and other Google diversity advocates both inside and outside the company. “I and seven other Google employees were publicly blamed by individuals such as Milo Yiannopoulos for James Damore’s firing,” she says. “And that resulted in death threats and harassment that have persisted to this day.”

Within Google, Fong-Jones claims that a tiny contingent of “white supremacist” and chauvinist staffers has been trolling other employees on internal networks. “There are times when people will ask kind of ‘101’ questions [about diversity and inclusion],” she says. “And it’s hard to tell whether it’s an attempt to learn or whether it’s an attempt to waste your time or if it’s a particular kind of clueless or antagonizing question meant to make you mad.”

Liz was leading the DEI charge at Google: https://archive.is/RJLVH

“It’s no coincidence that engineers are leading the revolt. “Engineering is regarded as a profit center for the company,” says Google Cloud Platform engineer Liz Fong-Jones, who assisted the Never Again campaign. “We’re expensive to replace, and that’s where a lot of our power comes from.” As a transgender woman, Fong-Jones has been leading dialogue about diversity issues at Google since 2010.

More DEI, targeting the execs: https://archive.ph/fowCa

Fong-Jones is pushing for Google to take harassment seriously. She says a small minority of employees within the company use “trolling tactics” to push back against diversity initiatives. She and her colleagues teamed up with a shareholder at a recent annual meeting to push for executives’ pay to be tied to diversity in recruitment.

More DEI, trying to seize power at Google to use against coworkers: https://archive.is/reIR5

They requested Alphabet consider certain metrics in incentive plans, with a focus on diversity and inclusion in the workforce. Though the proposal was voted down, it’s highly unusual for staff to even comment at annual meetings, let alone to chide their leaders.

Sentiment has been growing internally that executives aren’t doing enough to address workplace harassment, said Liz Fong-Jones, a longtime employee who’s backed a petition to create better policies and procedures, including cracking down on “malicious leaks that have intimidated individuals.” Those concerns came to the fore after another engineer, James Damore, wrote a 3,000-word memo assailing the firm’s affirmative action policies and suggesting women are biologically less-qualified than men for tech jobs. He was fired and sued Alphabet for wrongful termination.

"Muh cyberbullying!" (This is in regards to James Damore and other conservative Google employees leaking the crazy stuff progressives were saying/doing internally): https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...o-fight-cyber-bullying-at-work-idUSKBN1H61QR/

"My coworkers and I are having our right to a safe workplace being endangered,” said staff site reliability engineer Liz Fong-Jones, one of the lead organizers. She said employees experience stress and fear of physical reprisal when internal conversations are leaked to media, sometimes with writers’ names.

This sounds awfully familiar, almost like Liz has a habit of claiming to be a victim of harassment to get what he wants : https://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/2018/01/26/google-diversity-culture-war/1071107001/

Google site reliability engineer Liz Fong-Jones, a trans woman who has been the target of a harassment campaign conducted by a group of "extremists" inside Google, says she knows "multiple" colleagues who were not contacted by human resources or who were told that the company couldn't do anything about their concerns.

"We need to see concrete and meaningful action," Fong-Jones said.

Code of Conduct (CoC): https://archive.ph/VBcdj
(For those unaware, troons are notorious for trying to implement new CoCs in tech companies. These are intended to give the troons power to punish wrongthinkers.)

Liz Fong-Jones, one of the organizers of the petition, said the new guidelines don’t go far enough in addressing their concerns.
“We don’t believe the new Code of Conduct adequately supports employees speaking out about the racism and sexism we face,” the organizers of the petition said in a statement.

Code of Conduct, again: https://archive.ph/74bMf

Google has revised its internal code of conduct with more explicit rules against harassing coworkers, and for the first time, set guidelines on what people may post on the company’s internal online forums.
The new code of conduct also follows a petition demanding a safer workplace that gathered 2,000 employee signatures in three days when it was introduced in February; there are now 2,600 signers. The petition was organized by Google employees who support increased diversity at the company—many of them queer, transgender, or people of color who were targeted for harassment by coworkers.

“Liz Fong-Jones, a Google site reliability engineer and outspoken diversity advocate, said there are parallels between Google’s approach to moderating public discussions on its sites and the new internal policies. Fong-Jones says the written policy “bends over backward to avoid creating the appearance” that Google is not welcoming to conservatives, even though political ideology is not at stake. “A better phrasing might be that [employees] can’t attack the humanity of people.””

Liz also dabbled in #MeToo stuff at Google. Mr. Consent-Accident is a real hypocrite: https://www.businessinsider.com/google-engineer-liz-fong-jones-alleges-harassment-cover-up-2018-10
(Big at the highlighted part...)

In a series of tweets, Liz Fong-Jones slammed Google senior managers for their "abuse of power relationships" after Android creator Andy Rubin was accused of resigning with a $90 million exit package after a woman came forward saying he coerced her into oral sex in a hotel room.

"It is not okay to assault people. It is not okay to cheat. It is not okay to sexually harass. What's salacious about the NYT article is *not* the BDSM or the polyamory," Fong-Jones tweeted following the publication of the Times report. "It's the abuse of power relationships in situations where there was no consent, or consent was impossible."

Fong-Jones also told her own #MeToo story about a Google executive. She reposted a Google+ blog she wrote in 2017, in which recalled sleeping with a director who "got very creative to maneuver past the letter of limits I set."

She named that director on Twitter as Richard DeVaul, who heads up Google's research and development arm Google X.

Despite his obnoxiousness, Liz was apparently Google's favorite pet troon for awhile: https://www.vanityfair.com/news/photos/2018/10/future-innovators-index

A Google site-reliability engineer who works on the Google Cloud Customer Reliability Engineering team, Liz Fong-Jones is a trans activist and a diversity advocate at work, serving as an informal liaison between management and under-represented minority employees at Google.

Then he got too comfortable and started playing politics: https://archive.ph/SWOso

The fledgling movement marks an evolution in the consciousness of tech employees; last year, employees at several companies asked their CEOs to drop out of President Trump’s advisory council and oppose a ban on visitors from predominantly Muslim countries. But asking a company to forgo the revenue of a government contract is a different kind of tradeoff. “One is about the politics, the other is about the core business, what is this company in the business of doing or not in the business of doing,” says Liz Fong-Jones, a site reliability engineer at Google known for her advocacy work.

After an unrelated victory by employees, Liz and his comrades immediately tried to piggyback off it and insert DEI stuff as well: https://www.usatoday.com/story/tech...-pentagon-shakes-up-internet-giant/665423002/

An employee revolt last week forced Google to back off a controversial and potentially lucrative military drone project. This week, employees are finding their voices again by joining shareholder groups to pressure Google to increase the racial, ethnic and gender diversity of its workforce.

The activism is shaking up Google, which isn’t used to being publicly challenged by its own employees.

Liz Fong-Jones, a Google site reliability engineer, says she and a group of employees felt they had no choice but to take the unusual step of speaking out at the shareholder meeting after efforts to get management to address concerns proved unsuccessful. She hopes protest votes from concerned investors will motivate executives to make diversity a priority.”

This is probably what actually doomed him at Google. Liz started organizing strikes: https://www.fastcompany.com/90275462/meet-the-google-engineer-getting-its-workers-ready-to-strike

On November 1, around 20,000 Google employees walked out of work to demand systemic change in how the company handles workers’ rights issues such as sexual harassment and gender and racial discrimination.
And on November 29, the prospect of a much-longer walkout arose when outspoken engineer Liz Fong-Jones started a strike fund.

Fong-Jones promised that if employees together pledged $100,000 for a strike fund to help support workers while picketing, she would match it with $100,000 of her own. Within about three hours, Googlers met her challenge, and the fund currently sits at about $250,000.

“I’m aiming to raise money for the strike fund,” Fong-Jones tells me, “so that people feel empowered to speak up about issues in the future, whether they be security and privacy-related or workplace conditions-related.” Though currently on sabbatical, the engineer is still very engaged in Google matters–with a prolific activist Twitter feed that often makes news headlines (and has 14,000 followers).

"Vocal internal critic", gives an ultimatum: https://www.theverge.com/2018/11/30/18118711/google-strike-project-dragonfly-fundraisin

Meanwhile Liz Fong-Jones, a vocal internal critic who has pledged to quit Google in February if the company does not make significant policy changes, may be organizing a strike. In a Twitter thread, she asked fellow coworkers to put money into a strike fund that would help cover employees’ expenses during an extended walkout. Within hours, employees had raised $100,000.

Admits he might get fired. Doubles down on DEI: https://www.fastcompany.com/90273385/by-going-public-dissidents-at-google-will-face-some-huge-risks

This involves a lot more risk to employees, activist tech workers have told me over several months of covering their efforts. “I can’t talk about things that relate specifically to Google’s…product decisions, in that those are things that could potentially get me fired,” said Google staff developer advocate Liz Fong Jones when I asked her about the Project Maven controversy.

Yet on Tuesday, she put her name to the anti-Dragonfly letter. What’s more, she and at least one other Googler pledged to quit if the company doesn’t enact some key reforms. Fong-Jones’s ethical focus has been on diversity and inclusion at Google, issues for which her outspokenness is legally protected (although she has faced severe online harassment).

Now she’s come out as a critic on those touchy discussions about how the tech giants’ products are used–forming another wave in a growing tide of dissent that hit peak visibility in the global walkout protest of at least 20,000 employees on November 1.

Liz "leaving" Google: https://www.axios.com/2019/01/04/scoop-googles-fong-jones-leaving-for-startup-1546615010

Liz Fong-Jones, a longtime Google engineer known for speaking out on a wide range of employee concerns, is leaving the tech giant to work at a startup.
Why it matters: Fong-Jones was early to challenge her employer on a range of issues from sexual harassment to its work on controversial projects.

She said that activism can be hard to sustain and she didn't see a way to remain at Google without burning out.

Oh look, there's the Liz Fong-Jones and Meredith Whittaker connection. They were two of the ringleaders for the Google Walkouts: https://web.archive.org/web/2019032...h-workers-friday-night-google-amazon-facebook

A Google employee who recently submitted her resignation from the company, Liz Fong-Jones, tells the crowd about organizing thousands of employees within the company’s rank and file. Along with Whittaker and others, she successfully helped wage a campaign to get Google to drop its contract with the Pentagon, which wanted to use the company’s AI technology for military drone strikes.

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tl;dr
Liz Fong-Jones' activism at Google was always for self-interested DEI purposes. I believe he latched onto other causes (like protesting Project Maven & Dragonfly), because those enjoyed a genuine groundswell of support among Google employees. In Liz's mind, he could use those causes as Trojan Horses for his real agenda (winning DEI concessions from the Google execs).
Surprisingly, the Google execs actually favored Liz for some reason. However, he eventually crossed a line by fundraising a bunch of money to support the Google strikes in late 2018, and so he was forced to resign at the start of 2019.

I think it's also important to note how Liz pretended to be a victim (of "harassment" from "extremists" inside the company) while simultaneously scheming to attack his conservative/wrongthinking coworkers via a troon-friendly Code of Conduct. Eerie parallels to Liz's later crusade against Kiwi Farms...

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Side-note: I was a little shocked to see a friend of the forum show up in the above articles. Remember the journoscum named Nitasha Tiku?

She also wrote this article I listed earlier: https://archive.ph/74bMf

WAIT! She wrote this one too! https://archive.ph/SWOso

Doing a little digging... and there's more!

• Another article about Google, again quoting Liz Fong-Jones. https://archive.ph/gOrCX
• And yet another! https://archive.ph/TTFCo
• And another!!! https://archive.ph/B3E9V
• AND ANOTHER! https://archive.ph/xRzL1

That's at least six articles Nitasha Tiku has written about Google, all with quotes from Liz Fong-Jones.

Very interesting that this journoscum (Nitasha Tiku) has known Liz Fong-Jones since 2018, and she's been using him as a source for MULTIPLE news articles on internal Google drama. Fast-forward to 2023, and Liz was able to get her help in publishing a big Kiwi Farms hitpiece in the Washington Post...
Hmmm. Calling in an old favor? A little quid-pro-quo?
@Null, I think you'll like this last bit about Nitasha Tiku.

 

[ubunr9kpkk69c4ex]

Surprisingly, the Google execs actually favored Liz for some reason. However, he eventually crossed a line by fundraising a bunch of money to support the Google strikes in late 2018, and so he was forced to resign at the start of 2019.

LFJ was basically a fixer for the execs. Her goal was always to work her way into the exec team but eventually she overplayed her hand and got sidelined. The strikes were just thermonuclear narc rage when she realised she had no more future at Google. They weren’t as damaging as she hoped because everyone at Google hated her by that point, which I’m sure was a blow to her ego.

 

[Artificial Stupidity]

So watching the new video on Keffals I see
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What security company in September 2022 would Keffals have given money to? Why would Liz and Keffals seemingly have a falling out but not have publicly went after each other? Is it because they do have an NDA and Liz is now involved in yet another donation scam crowd funding campaign?

What Keffals says in the video she got help with in that video is exactly what Liz says she offers.

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There is a "now recording" podcast that recently released from the 3hour mark until around 35mins there are some interesting things discussed with gamergater John who I would posture is tangentially connected given this response about dropkiwifarms;

3:21:13 - 3:21:53
- DeOrio says about the DKF movement "That's not the work of an amateur" yeah no shit you fat mongaloid.
and here Wu OPENLY ADMITS "That's true, I've been working on that for a really long time, she (keffals) got it done where me & a whole lot of political professionals completely failed"

 

[REGENDarySumanai]

I want to see everything this brick faced rapist has built to crumble. I do not care how long it will take.

 

[popsoda]

Elliot makes so much sense when you consider he's involved with Tallpoppy and closely related to that wikipedia lady.
"Pay me to make bad words about you go away"
Even explains his crusade against this site.

 

[FuckedOffToff]

Do you think he's used threads here to contact people to bilk them out of money?
Wouldn't put it past him to grift the lolcows.
Who they gonna tell? Us?

 

[Temperance]

For posterity: Null just published a Substack article about everything that's been going on. Go read it!

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Online Censorship's Institutional Power​

The converging interests of technocrats, media, and academia, as seen through the lens of the world's most deplatformed US-legal website.​

https://madattheinternet.substack.com/p/online-censorships-institutional
https://archive.is/34V8w

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Liz Fong-Jones is also aware of the article. Notice how he unlinked/muted himself from Null's tweet:
Before:

After:

 

[Musashi's Son]

(A)
(A)
Hacker News censored Liz Fong Jones's name for the Hacker News post a co worker did where they explain how Liz Fong Jones blamed them for getting sexually assaulted.

(A)
(A)
Really makes you think.

 

[Sweeter and Savoury]

This article is a pretty clear shot across the bow at Elliot.

It's going to be either ignored, or more likely cause a renewed attack. Which of course is part of it's purpose.

@Null

For god's sake Jersh, please take a writing course if you want to put out stuff like this. Your idea's are good but your very ineffective at getting them across. Just like your MATI streams, writing well takes skill and practice. MATI has come a long way since you first hemmed and hawed your way into our hearts so take the time and invest in your writing skills if you have more plans like this in the future.

Plz no ban, me give you much sex leg.

 

[Null]

I am getting very conflicting reports that I am both good at writing and terrible. I feel like everything I said flows cohesively one point to the next.

 

[Nicholas II of Russia]

I am getting very conflicting reports that I am both good at writing and terrible. I feel like everything I said flows cohesively one point to the next.

You did fine in my book, so it's okay.

 

[Procrastinhater]

I am getting very conflicting reports that I am both good at writing and terrible. I feel like everything I said flows cohesively one point to the next.

I thought it was pretty good. I'm not an editor though.
Maybe you should get someone at the SFWA to check it out.

 

[Oxyjen]

I thought it was pretty good. I'm not an editor though.

For a relatively long piece I though it was very readable, and interesting.

I spotted a couple of minor things I thought were wrong, googled to check but no, stalker child. So clearly I’m not an editor either.

 

[skunt]

I am getting very conflicting reports that I am both good at writing and terrible. I feel like everything I said flows cohesively one point to the next.

I thought it was good. This one part though is a bit wonky:

such as T1 Internet backbone company Cogent, based out of D.C., who to this day will block any of their own customers who allow the Kiwi Farms to use them.

"any of their own customers who provide services to the Kiwi Farms" probably works better. Or provides transit.
Either way, kept me occupied on the shitter

 

[RA-5C Vigilante]

I am getting very conflicting reports that I am both good at writing and terrible. I feel like everything I said flows cohesively one point to the next.

I’ve seen fanfics written much worse get rave reviews and millions of views. I thought it was good, and most people on the Internet are barely literate in my experience, so I wouldn’t take all the criticisms to heart.

 

[Sweeter and Savoury]

I am getting very conflicting reports that I am both good at writing and terrible. I feel like everything I said flows cohesively one point to the next.

Look Jersh, I love you like the retarded step-child I never had but your writing is unfocused and you don't really flow from point to point in your thesis very well. Think of it like writing for a 6 year old. Your core theme has to be easy to see and consistent across the article. To me you spend most of the time talking about how Elliot has fucked with you and not why it's so critical to the survival of the Internet that he be stopped.

Why is what Brick-Face doing wrong? How does it/will it effect the average tard on the the Internet? What could fix it? Who should act? How should we act?

You lay out a lot of blame and nasty words and I think that undercuts the seriousness of the issue. Your critics will come out and say it's just a anti-tranny hit piece and not address your real points. It (to me at least) comes across a lot like a rage post and not a call to arms.
Be professional, leave your shit at the door (or better write a dedicated article about it). Write something the juronoslimes can't take out of context and give ammo to those who will quote you.

Again, just like streaming shit like this practice and skill and a little bit of help.

Really, I know your a busy dude but a course in journalistic writing would do you a world of good in both your rants and your MATI streams. Do it online if you can scrape out the free time. Or not, I mean it's your life but if you want to get real attention to your articles your going to have to give your friends out there something to work with. You do have people out there who want to help you but their hands are tied to a certain extent by your past and present issues.

Really I would break this into at least 3 or 4 articles. One about the big problem and what can be done to fight it. The next about Fong and his antics and his back room deals. The next about PATH and Cogent and how they're attacking the backbone of the Internet. The last about how the few people fighting the good fight need to learn to come together and work for the big goal, how EFF are abodoning their duty to protect free speech in order to chase clout and popularity in online circles. Calling out the bad actors is great but make sure it's cool and straight from the source.

Make each article's central thesis punch hard, use the facts and keep it cool and spefic to that thesis. Avoid a lot of personal shit and just remember that people are most interest in how and why this will affect them and not something as nebulous as protect the internets from bad corp and troon elites.

Anyway..plz no ban

 

[Accidental Protege]

It's extremely important to figure out a way to condense this issue into an easily digestible bite to spoonfeed to normies who have influence, and this article accomplishes that to some extent. I genuinely think that a lot of people just don't realize the import and ultimate selfishness of what Dong is doing, and how he's using the ultimate get-out-of-jail-free card of "transphobia" to obfuscate it. It's very promising that mainstream people are starting to turn on Keffals and I think that it's only a matter of time before someone picks this story up and runs with it. The more clear material there is to work with, the better.

 

['Ole Dente]

I am getting very conflicting reports that I am both good at writing and terrible. I feel like everything I said flows cohesively one point to the next.

You’re very, very good at writing. It’s formatted well and you paint a very good and engaging picture about what you’re trying to put across.

However, if we take a look at this chart detailing how well somebody spells, it clearly indicates that you’re fucked up. Once in a blue moon, you have the tenancy to spell like a fag. It would seem that momentarily your shit’s all retarded.

This is okay, as my ex-wife is a school teacher. She spells like a fag, teaches other children to presumably spell like fags and she is occasionally mentally retarded. She does very well for herself despite these shared deficits and living in Portland.

 

[murph]

you have the tenancy to spell like a fag.

C'mon dude. If you're going to complain about spelling, proofread your shit.

 

[ubunr9kpkk69c4ex]

As a summary of of facts for interested parties the article fine. If you want to reach a more general audience a professional writer could make it more engaging.