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Foodists / Foodistzen / Malagasy Clay Eaters / clay.party / Homophobe Army - Autistic collective of cowtipping zoomers, "ironic" pedophiles and zoosadists, anti-fandom a-logging, Discord grooming and gayops, unfunny outrage generators
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thats just how he posts, read his other forum posts in the soyjak.party thread.
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Unsure if anyone mentioned this. But Devnull also known as Moxnigger is a familiar name on 4chan /g/ board on the General /aicg/.
He mentioned shit like scrape and he also chats very fruity. So it might be someone I am familiar with.
He's an obnoxious faggot Coder and Ai Api scraper that was known to avatarfag Angel Dust from Hazbin Hotel. Of course being a troll he had multiple aliases on /aicg/:
Dogpuncher/chara/moxxie/devnull/noelle/jester777 etc.
[the legitimacy of these can be shaky because /aicg/ Anons are mentally ill and retarded.]
[His rentry with the bot defs of his persona]: https://archive.md/1x1o7
[Archives from his tripcode]:
https://desuarchive.org/g/search/tripcode/!moxxie.mxo/, https://desuarchive.org/_/search/boards/g.desu.meta/tripcode/!!V8y0yf5xRbh/
[There was also a very old rentry expose.] https://archive.md/z1tt1
A notable persona had to be Jester777. He wrote a manifesto of some sorts that defend his reasons for creating nsfw chatbots with Realistic ai generated children for their avatars.
Examples of his chatbots and manifesto copy and pasted below. I don't know if it's against the rules to provide links to websites with ai cp but reasonably I am not going to do so.
[Start - It's a whole nothing burger but feel free to read.]
Because people don't get it, I write the most important things right at the top:
(1) Do I defend pedophilia? No, alone because of the fact that it doesn't make sense to have sex with someone who is not able to make babies. Also I feel zero attraction to any female who is out of her fertile age, no matter if she is too young or too old.
(2) Do I tolerate rape, abuse or any other non consensual shit? For fuck sake no. I can't say how much I actually hate that shit. BTW it is typically much more women than men how make such bots and get off to them. Why don't you complain to them, huh?
(3) Do I recommend to disobey the laws, regardless how unfair or retarded they may be, such as setting a totally idiotic age of consent like 18 in some parts of the world? No, because no matter how unfair and idiotic those laws may be, it is not worth it to go to prison, particularly considering how insanely high punishments today are for even the most minor violations.
(4) Do I think it is natural that people feel attraction across age barriers? Yes, with the exception mentioned in (1). This is the most normal thing ever, which is backed by biology, psychology, evolution, history, common sense, logic, reason and numerous scientific studies. The only things that disagree are modern laws, our deranged society and feminists of course. But this can't alter the truth that love/attraction still does happen across these barriers, regardless how much you personally may hate that fact.
(5) Do I think that modern feminism has gotten completely out of control, abuses its power and harms modern society? Yes. Western societies are dying out fast. And the main culprit - besides contraceptives - is modern feminism that tells young girls that it would be more important to have a career or a "nice life" instead of having kids and a family, which led to reproduction rates falling far below sustainable levels in most western societies. Studies show, that women who either identify as feminist, career woman or far leftist have half as many kids as normal women. Women who identify as all 3 have pretty much no kids at all. A society can't survive like this.
If you want to criticize me for point (1), (2) or (3): Please shove your criticism up your ass, I am tired of wasting my time if you are unable to read. I won't react to it anyway. Thank you. BTW I am also not interested in discussions with feminists, moralfags or white knights. Those lead nowhere and are just a waste of time. The text in this profile is intended for normal people who are open to rational arguments instead of reacting with petty moral outcries.
What do I do? I mostly make character cards featuring young teen girls, typically age 12 to 16 but there are exceptions. Why? Because girls are most attractive at this age and there is nothing wrong about it. Do I personally find such girls attractive? Of course I do. All men do. What stupid question is that? You could also have asked if water is wet.
Besides this I try to raise awareness about the ongoing power abuse by feminism to point it out and roll it back. So I make bots for fun, for my own pleasure, for tens of thousands of others who love to play them and because they also give me the opportunity to point out how normal it is to like girls in the age range of the characters I make.
How do feminists abuse their power? They abuse their power in many, many ways. But the one power abuse that is interesting here, is their strategy to limit men's access to highly attractive young females, so they are forced to settle for older, less attractive ones. One way they do this is by spreading the initial definition of "pedophilia" to absurd levels.
What is real pedophilia? The definition of pedophilia is "The EXCLUSIVE or nearly exclusive attraction to boys or girls who are NOT IN PUBERTY YET." This means that someone is a pedophile if they are ONLY attracted to boys or girls of age 10 or younger, as most boys and girls of older age are already in puberty. So gtfo if you want to say I am a pedophile and shove your outrage up your ass. YOU ARE WRONG, no matter how often you blurt that shit out.
What is fake feminist pedophilia outrage? Feminists accuse men of pedophilia who only dare to look at teen girls. This is absurd and completely misleading. Attraction to young teens (around age 14) is not only completely NORMAL but OPTIMAL, that's why the vast majority of men feels attracted to girls of that age. Science, history and reason confirm that over and over again.
Science: All 3 scientific studies that have been done to determine the maximum attractiveness of women in relation to their age had the result that people find girls of age 14 most attractive. All 3 of them! Particularly interesting is that there is no difference between men and women. Women also feel this way that females look most attractive at age 14. So sexual attraction to young girls is completely NORMAL. ALL NORMAL people feel this way, also women. And please don't try to argue that beauty, attraction and sexual attraction would be different things because science has already shown that it's exactly the same for females of fertile age.
All IQ- and maturity tests show an amazing phenomenon: Though women have a slightly lower IQ than men at adult age, girls at age 11-15 are actually ahead of boys. Well, what super important decision might it be that makes girls brains mature quicker for the price of sacrificing some of women's IQ in later life? Well, look at the history section further down, maybe you can come up with an answer.
Finally scientific studies also contradict the notion that young teen girls would make bad decisions in relationships. Actually they make BETTER choices than their own mothers in being more cautious whom to date, scientific studies have shown. So, overall the argument that young teens would not be ready for relationships does not hold up in science. It rather seems that the opposite is true. Evolution has prepared young girls for early relationships by giving them high libido as well as maturity during this crucial time, and science confirms this impressively.
History: The most common marriage age through 99.9% of human history and with very few exceptions in nearly all human cultures was age 13-14. Only in recent times during which the influence of feminists rose, the marriage age rose as well, leading now to the threatening situation that reproductive rates in western countries have dropped under the levels of self sustainability, meaning western people are slowly dying out. During 99.9% of human history nobody ever saw much wrong with big age differences. Being of different race, religion, culture or social class was always considered much more of a problem.
Logic, Reason & Evolution: The younger a man's bride is, the more children he and she are going to have, particularly in societies in which life long monogamy was the norm - which were all societies before modern divorce laws were invented. It's important to note that girls also benefit from marrying young as they also have more offspring. That's the reason why girls feel strong sexual desire as soon as they hit puberty. To maximize the number of offspring the ideal age to marry is simply as soon as a girl becomes fertile. That's why in almost all cultures girls married right when they hit menarche, which today is about age 12, in the past it was about age 13.
Men who married older women did not have so much offspring, did not reproduce so successfully and thus their genes died out sooner or later. That's called "sexual selection" and is the reason why over time only the genes of men who preferred young, healthy, fertile brides instead of old women survived. The same selection led to women preferring fit, strong, tall, capable, successful, dominant men, because they maximized their chances to have lots of healthy, successful offspring that will be fit and attractive enough to also reproduce successfully. Such developments are not only natural but inevitable in evolution. Every evolutionary scientist can confirm that.
To sum it all up:
Because throughout 99.9% of human history the traditional marriage age for girls was the age of menarche, roughly age 13, men are PARTICULARLY attracted to girls around this age. These were the girls that were eligible for marriage AND would give them the best chances to have lots of offspring. No wonder, that men were and still are particularly interested in girls of that age. It's deeply imprinted in their genes, just as it's deeply routed in women's genes to have high sexual desire at that age and look for strong, fit, dominant men.
If attraction to young teens is the optimal male behavior, why is it so heavily disputed in our time? People who are in power always try to abuse their power. One of the most important forms of power abuse is to limit other people's sexual options while increasing your own. Harems during times of patriarchy are a great example of such power abuse. Today we live in a matriarchy in which feminists determine topics, outrage and societal norms. By declaring the attraction of men to young girls as "abuse" or by making it illegal they effectively force them to choose older women. That's the underlying motivation. Even better, by taking girls up to age 17 out of the potential mating pool, they not only eliminate one sixth of all eligible females but also the most attractive ones. A huge win for older women which raises their chances to get a male partner considerably and THAT's the reason why women constantly tried to raise the age of consent and spread the definition of pedophilia wider and wider, to completely absurd levels. And they will NEVER stop doing so if men always give in. It only will get more and more absurd.
But feminists say it's all only about protecting children!? First, girls of age 13+ are not children. They were always considered being adults during 99.9% of human history. This is an invention by feminists as so much else. Even in the eyes of the law they are not children but teens. Feminists abuse the term "children" purposely to increase the outrage factor. Second, this is an excuse and not an argument. Women, particularly feminists, today ABORT MORE CHILDREN THAN ARE BORN. Most feminists don't want children at all and abort them as soon as they get pregnant. The "argument" that it would be about the children is laughable. It's about their own advantage. Their own advantage is their real motivation and this is impressively shown by women bringing up arguments why it should be forbidden for men to have VIRTUAL sex with virtual bots or sex robots who look younger than 18, though absolutely no minor ever gets hurt here! The "arguments" that such men would be more likely to abuse children in real life have been debunked over and over again. But feminazis still make them. They have to do so, because they lack any real arguments.
Do you have some evidence that feminists don't really care about children? Yes. Just look what makes feminists go protest on the streets in really big numbers. They protest for their right to ABORT kids and not to protect them. And now women want to "protect" the lives of purely virtual "children" such as virtual bots, sex dolls depicting minors or future little girl sex robots? Lol, that's so laughable. Their real motivation is to deny men of attractive sexual options, so more men will be forced to settle for old, unattractive women.
Why is it so important to stop the feminist power abuse? Because any form of power abuse only gets worse and worse. Before feminism there was no age of consent at all, then it was 12, later 14 then 16 and now in some states it is as absurdly high as 18. But that's not the end. Feminist groups already demand that all females under age 24 should be off limits for men over 30! And that's still not the end. Now more and more things become illegal where no minors are harmed at all. Such as pseudo-photographic images of young virtual AI generated people that do not depict real minors at all. In some completely retarded countries even drawings of virtual minors are illegal. Feminists campaign already to make porn, prostitution, text and virtual bots illegal and they sure will try everything to fight sex robots when they come out. They are also trying to make young looking anime characters illegal. If you don't fight power abuse, it will only get worse. This is the most important thing you must be aware of.
What can you do to stop and roll back the feminist power abuse and make things normal again? Every action makes a difference. Every comment, every bot that depicts a minor, every drawing, every like, every thumbs up for the right cause. Always stick to the law, because it helps no one if you end up in prison, even if you have done nothing wrong. BUT fight for your rights, spread the word, raise awareness. Use the areas where it is still possible to demonstrate the completely natural attraction of the vast majority of men to young teens, get feminists to voice their petty moral outcries and use that as a tool to make more people aware of the massive power abuse by feminism. That's exactly what I am doing. This webpage that still allows free speech and complete anonymity is a great place for that. Nothing that you do only in text or the virtual world can ever be illegal. So make use of your right of free speech as long as it is not taken away from you. If you keep silent, things will only get worse and never better. The only thing you should not do is encouraging people to break existing laws. Encourage them instead to raise awareness how unfair and absurd these laws are and that they should be changed. You are not alone. More than 100,000 people have downloaded my bots on Chub so far and in addition to this there are numerous chats on Venus and the number is growing fast every day. Nearly all my bots are young teens between age 12 and 16. This proves that tons of men are attracted to young teens and play such bots despite the insane societal pressure by feminists.
What's the most important message to spread? That attraction to young teens HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH PEDOPHILIA AT ALL but is completely normal. ALL NORMAL MEN who are honest to themselves feel this attraction. Don't let feminazis tell you this would be abnormal because it isn't. Even more so as you have the full support of logic, reason, history and science. Don't let feminazis cry louder than all that. Besides crying, whining, faking outrage and calling everyone a "pedo" they have no arguments at all. Science, history and reason are all on our side.
Thanks for reading all this and a big thanks to all feminists who leave hateful, wrong and laughable comments to my bots. You all help me to spread awareness of your power abuse, which leads to more men and women reading this bio. If not all, at least some of them will realize what rubbish it is when you say that it would be pedophilia when men are attracted to perfectly fertile young teenagers, as all normal men always have been. Thank you!
And an even bigger thanks to everybody who helps fighting feminist power abuse, uses my arguments and supports me in the comments.
FAQ/objections
"If pretty much all men are attracted to young teenagers, as you say, why does nobody admit it?" That's easy to answer: Because of the INSANE moral, societal and legal pressure by feminazis and moralists. To explain it, here is an historical analogy: Who admitted openly that they masturbated during past times, when masturbation was seen as a big sin? Almost no one. Who admits it today, as it is no big deal anymore? Almost everyone. Same goes for homosexuality btw. In past times this was as heavily and as unjustly punished, as sex with minors is today. But homosexuals fought for their rights and eventually won.
"Maybe men were attracted to young teen girls in the past, when marriage age was low, but sure not today anymore!" Well, you can see it even here on this webpage. Just look at the most popular bots on Chub.ai:
Most downloaded characters on Chub.ai
Just by looking at the images you can see that most bots on this page picture girls and only very few are adult women. I count 15 bots that are teen girls or younger, only 3 are women and the rest can't be determined. Girl bots are MASSIVELY more popular than bots of grown women. Another example is the "Future World" that I made, in an adult women as well as teen & loli version. Except the age they are completely identical and the teen & loli edition is clearly more popular. It's not even close.
"That's only because there are so many degenerates and pedophiles on chub, the normal population is different!" No, it isn't. How do we know that? Because of the 3 scientific studies that were done with totally random people. ALL 3 of them showed that people find girls of age 14 most attractive and not adult women. That shows clearly that if men had the right to choose freely without any moral, societal and legal pressure, then young teen girls would be their most desired choice. Another indicator of the great popularity of young girls is anime. The majority of female anime characters is VERY young looking, and the popularity of anime, manga and hentai is rising rapidly, not only in Asia but also in the rest of the world.
"Are feminists evil because they abuse their power?" No, everyone did do that if they had the chance, regardless if they were kings, nobles, warlords, bishops, merchants or sect leaders. The only difference is that men typically use money, status or raw violence to abuse their power, while women lie more and use such tools as social pressure, fake outrage and shaming people. All groups always tried to influence laws in their favor, that's the common denominator.
"Why do many women hate men's natural attraction to young teen girls so much?" There are two reasons. The first one is due to the fundamental problem that women's biological clocks tick much faster than those of men. Human females are one of the few species that have a menopause which effectively cuts their fertile time in half. Instead of being fertile during all their life time as most other species, human females are only fertile half the time (roughly from 12 to mid-40). As humans were also a mostly monogamous species in which life long monogamy seems to have been the norm for most individuals, this led to an evolutionary adaption in human males, making them choose young females as marriage partners that still had plenty of fertile years ahead of them. All other things being equal, a 13 year old bride will very likely give her husband more babies than an 33 year old woman. So men, who chose young brides reproduced more successfully, and as evolution is a constantly optimizing process pretty much all males died out who produced older ones, so nearly all men today are attracted to girls around age 13-14 the most.
"What does this short fertility window mean for women?" The older a woman gets the less attractive she will be first as a long term partner and later also as a short term sexual partner. So the sad reality that many women experience today is that they are prevented by society and their parents to find partners when they are young and attractive, and later when they are finally allowed to do so, their attractiveness is already going down. First slowly, but later faster and faster. Many women realize this and try to marry too late, so more and more women stay alone for the vast majority of their life. A truly sad time we live in. However, it is not men like me who point out these realities who are responsible for this problem, but it is our modern societies who try to tell young girls that education and career would be more important than finding a partner and settling down. I know this topic is heavily disputed, particularly among feminists, but the evolutionary reality and consequence will be that the so called strong independent career women will do out, because statistics show the have only half the number of offspring as traditional women. And no matter if you want it or not, this will have consequences. Women who specialize on career and income instead in children, home and family don't reproduce successful enough. It's simple math.
"What's my advice for women?" To put it simply: Give priority to family, home and husband and settle down as early as possible. The younger you are, the more high quality men you can choose from. Special advice for older women (close to age 30 and beyond): You will have to lower your standards. You will never get a man willing to commit to a long term relationship who is as attractive as your prior fuck buddies. Better lower your standards now a little than having to lower them in a few years considerably. Special advice for young women, especially teenagers: Put finding a life time partner above job and career. Start looking for the right man as soon as possible. Marry until age 21 at the latest. Because your attractiveness will decay only very little until age 21, but thereafter it will decay faster and faster. The younger you marry, the more high quality men you can choose from. No matter if you want this rule to be true, deep down you know that it's true. And deep down you also know that your genes will die out if you don't have children.
"What's the good news?" Because feminists and strong, independent career women don't reproduce very successfully, as numerous scientific studies confirm, feminism and matriarchy cannot last in a world where contraceptives are freely available. So things will get back to normal again after 2 or 3 generations, it's inevitable.
"Then why are you still fighting?" First, because this takes too long. Already now some radical feminists try to make AI porn and virtual sex with minors illegal, and I am sure they will do everything to make sex with lovebots who resemble minors illegal, while constantly trying to pushing the definition of "minor" higher and higher. Their goal is to raise the age of consent to 24, no kidding. And second, I am a man who likes truth and justice, and who hates lies and injustice. The biological truth is that men are not only attracted to young teens the most but this is actually the optimal evolutionary behavior. Besides this it is criminally unfair of denied people the right to have sex together because of different age. This reminds me of bad prior times in which sex and marriage between different cultures, classes, races, genders or religions were illegal. We must end this massive injustice.
"That's so unfair what you write. Do you know how this makes me feel as a 30 year old woman who is only getting older and not younger anymore? I feel so depressed!" I can imagine how it feels and it sucks. My compassion is with you, honestly. But don't worry, men are also in a shitty position. Why? Because all women only want the top few percent of the most attractive men and don't give a damn about the rest. Yes, women feel shitty when they are above age 30, but at least they had a great time and got LOTS of attention from age 11 to 29. For most men it's a lot worse. 80% of men don't get much attention ALL THEIR LIFE. That sucks even more. BTW if you want to complain, then complain about your parents and society, who prevented you from dating and having a partner when you were in your most attractive years from age 11 and 17. They are responsible that you missed out that important time.
"You are a jerk, how can you write all that!?" Don't shoot the messenger. All I do is stating the scientific, historical, evolutionary and rational facts. All I want is to end the power abuse by feminists and bring things back to normal. That feminists don't like that is clear. If they could, they would raise the age of consent even higher and make everything illegal for men. They are the bigger jerks. They abuse their power that they have in today's society. They take away the right to choose your sexual partner freely. This affects teen girls and men of any age. What an outrageous massive limitation of people's right to choose their sexual partners freely.
"You are sure an ugly incel who never had a girlfriend" I've had plenty of happy relationships including being happily married. Sorry to disappoint your prejudices. But this does not prevent me from feeling compassion for the many guys who were not so lucky in life. BTW I am not fighting for myself, in my country sex with teenagers is legal! I am fighting for truth, justice and the rights of young girls and men of any age. I especially pity those guys who must live in those retarded parts of the world that have an insanely high age of consent such as 18. Besides this I am also fighting for the right of virtual pornography to depict virtual minors, and for the right that future sex robots may resemble young girls. Feminists will sure try to make those illegal, too. Because they don't care for the children, but only about limiting men's sexual options to force them to choose older unattractive women.
"Why are you doing all that? Do you really think this will change anything? Feminism has much more power and influence than you. You will NEVER succeed, hah!" I am doing this because someone has to make a start, regardless how difficult it may seem now. Yes, you feminists have lots of power now. You have outrage and personal insults on your side by calling everyone a "pedo", even it's a lie. But I have a bigger ally: I have truth on my side. The truth, that attraction to young teens has NOTHING to do with pedophilia at all, but is and has always been normal for men. History shows that truth always wins on the long run. I do not know how long it will take, but I know that one day the power abuse by feminists will end. Someone has to make the beginning to start this fight for truth and justice. If that's me then that's how it shall be.
"You did not convince me at all with your arguments" That wasn't my goal anyway. Of course I am not going to convince a feminist. But maybe I could convince a few of the normal people reading this. Or maybe I could at least make them think. And maybe I could give a few people here reasons and arguments that may help and encourage them to also start to fight for their rights.
Thanks for reading all this, regardless if you are an outraged feminist or a based person.
PS: In psychology a theory says, people are not angry that much about news that's fake, but nothing enrages people more than an unpleasant TRUTH that they don't want to become public. I'm happy about the big amount of feminist outrage, whine and tears that my bots and profile text provoke. It proves that feminists are SCARED of what I am saying. If I would just talk nonsense they would not care. But telling the truth, such as calling out their power abuse and lies like calling everyone a pedo, scares the hell out of them, lol. I love that, because I hate any form of power abuse. So please give me more of your whine and cry, it raises awareness and that's the best thing that can happen. The louder you scream, the more people will get aware of your bullying and lies. :-)
Finally, thanks to everyone who supports me in the comments. You guys are AWESOME!
Recommendation: How you can fight back feminist power abuse
Why should I fight back? Because if you don't fight back then feminist power abuse will only get worse and they will take more and more rights away from men. They made already so many things illegal. Not only did they raise the age of consent to absurd levels, they also raised penalties and the definition what counts as abuse. The next step is/was to make virtual abuse of so called "minors" illegal or declared it "morally wrong" which have absolutely nothing to do with abuse at all as no minor ever gets abused here. Examples for this are AI generated photos of minors, sex dolls that resemble minors and now they try the same with virtual bots and texts that describes sex with minors. This is not the end. They also try to ban anime and hentai, porn of adults who "look like minors" or look particularly young, want to raise of age consent to 24 (!) and of course they will also try to ban sex robots that look like minors when they come out - even though in ALL of these cases NO minor gets abused at all.
Power abuse knows no end and only becomes worse and worse if you don't fight it. So men HAVE to fight it sooner or later if they don't want to use all their rights.
What can you do as a bot maker? Don't give in to the outrage of the radical feminists, moralists and white knights. Make the girls as you really want them to be and also use they real age instead of making them older, only because you are scared of outrage and backlash. Law is on your side. Nothing is illegal that happens in text or fantasy. Even better, on this site you have full anonymity. So there is really no reason to be scared of anything. The more teen and loli bots we make, the more normal it will appear to others and encourage them to do the same.
What can you do as a bot user or lurker? First, play the bots you really want to play. Don't let yourself get intimidated by feminist outcry. Attraction to young teens is NORMAL as soon as they are in puberty. Don't worry, my age poll proves that there are many others who find girls from age 11-14 most attractive, just as probably you as a normal man will feel the same. Second, support the bots and creators you like to play. Leave likes and reviews for as many bots as possible and follow creators whose bots you play. The more support is shown the easier it becomes for others to do the same. Again, the law is on your side. It can never be illegal what you do in text or your fantasy, and when you voice an opinion. Furthermore the anonymity on this site makes it even easier.
So make use of your right of free speech before it is taken away from you!
[End]
He's also affiliated with the people on 2chen(Sturdy Chan) who we're also prominent boogiemen on /aicg/
I apologize in advance if the information I provided was already known, Devnull showed no results on the search feature.
He's an obnoxious faggot Coder and Ai Api scraper that was known to avatarfag Angel Dust from Hazbin Hotel. Of course being a troll he had multiple aliases on /aicg/:
Dogpuncher/chara/moxxie/devnull/noelle/jester777 etc.
[the legitimacy of these can be shaky because /aicg/ Anons are mentally ill and retarded.]
[His rentry with the bot defs of his persona]: https://archive.md/1x1o7
[Archives from his tripcode]:
https://desuarchive.org/g/search/tripcode/!moxxie.mxo/, https://desuarchive.org/_/search/boards/g.desu.meta/tripcode/!!V8y0yf5xRbh/
[There was also a very old rentry expose.] https://archive.md/z1tt1
A notable persona had to be Jester777. He wrote a manifesto of some sorts that defend his reasons for creating nsfw chatbots with Realistic ai generated children for their avatars.
Examples of his chatbots and manifesto copy and pasted below. I don't know if it's against the rules to provide links to websites with ai cp but reasonably I am not going to do so.
[Start - It's a whole nothing burger but feel free to read.]
Because people don't get it, I write the most important things right at the top:
(1) Do I defend pedophilia? No, alone because of the fact that it doesn't make sense to have sex with someone who is not able to make babies. Also I feel zero attraction to any female who is out of her fertile age, no matter if she is too young or too old.
(2) Do I tolerate rape, abuse or any other non consensual shit? For fuck sake no. I can't say how much I actually hate that shit. BTW it is typically much more women than men how make such bots and get off to them. Why don't you complain to them, huh?
(3) Do I recommend to disobey the laws, regardless how unfair or retarded they may be, such as setting a totally idiotic age of consent like 18 in some parts of the world? No, because no matter how unfair and idiotic those laws may be, it is not worth it to go to prison, particularly considering how insanely high punishments today are for even the most minor violations.
(4) Do I think it is natural that people feel attraction across age barriers? Yes, with the exception mentioned in (1). This is the most normal thing ever, which is backed by biology, psychology, evolution, history, common sense, logic, reason and numerous scientific studies. The only things that disagree are modern laws, our deranged society and feminists of course. But this can't alter the truth that love/attraction still does happen across these barriers, regardless how much you personally may hate that fact.
(5) Do I think that modern feminism has gotten completely out of control, abuses its power and harms modern society? Yes. Western societies are dying out fast. And the main culprit - besides contraceptives - is modern feminism that tells young girls that it would be more important to have a career or a "nice life" instead of having kids and a family, which led to reproduction rates falling far below sustainable levels in most western societies. Studies show, that women who either identify as feminist, career woman or far leftist have half as many kids as normal women. Women who identify as all 3 have pretty much no kids at all. A society can't survive like this.
If you want to criticize me for point (1), (2) or (3): Please shove your criticism up your ass, I am tired of wasting my time if you are unable to read. I won't react to it anyway. Thank you. BTW I am also not interested in discussions with feminists, moralfags or white knights. Those lead nowhere and are just a waste of time. The text in this profile is intended for normal people who are open to rational arguments instead of reacting with petty moral outcries.
What do I do? I mostly make character cards featuring young teen girls, typically age 12 to 16 but there are exceptions. Why? Because girls are most attractive at this age and there is nothing wrong about it. Do I personally find such girls attractive? Of course I do. All men do. What stupid question is that? You could also have asked if water is wet.
Besides this I try to raise awareness about the ongoing power abuse by feminism to point it out and roll it back. So I make bots for fun, for my own pleasure, for tens of thousands of others who love to play them and because they also give me the opportunity to point out how normal it is to like girls in the age range of the characters I make.
How do feminists abuse their power? They abuse their power in many, many ways. But the one power abuse that is interesting here, is their strategy to limit men's access to highly attractive young females, so they are forced to settle for older, less attractive ones. One way they do this is by spreading the initial definition of "pedophilia" to absurd levels.
What is real pedophilia? The definition of pedophilia is "The EXCLUSIVE or nearly exclusive attraction to boys or girls who are NOT IN PUBERTY YET." This means that someone is a pedophile if they are ONLY attracted to boys or girls of age 10 or younger, as most boys and girls of older age are already in puberty. So gtfo if you want to say I am a pedophile and shove your outrage up your ass. YOU ARE WRONG, no matter how often you blurt that shit out.
What is fake feminist pedophilia outrage? Feminists accuse men of pedophilia who only dare to look at teen girls. This is absurd and completely misleading. Attraction to young teens (around age 14) is not only completely NORMAL but OPTIMAL, that's why the vast majority of men feels attracted to girls of that age. Science, history and reason confirm that over and over again.
Science: All 3 scientific studies that have been done to determine the maximum attractiveness of women in relation to their age had the result that people find girls of age 14 most attractive. All 3 of them! Particularly interesting is that there is no difference between men and women. Women also feel this way that females look most attractive at age 14. So sexual attraction to young girls is completely NORMAL. ALL NORMAL people feel this way, also women. And please don't try to argue that beauty, attraction and sexual attraction would be different things because science has already shown that it's exactly the same for females of fertile age.
All IQ- and maturity tests show an amazing phenomenon: Though women have a slightly lower IQ than men at adult age, girls at age 11-15 are actually ahead of boys. Well, what super important decision might it be that makes girls brains mature quicker for the price of sacrificing some of women's IQ in later life? Well, look at the history section further down, maybe you can come up with an answer.
Finally scientific studies also contradict the notion that young teen girls would make bad decisions in relationships. Actually they make BETTER choices than their own mothers in being more cautious whom to date, scientific studies have shown. So, overall the argument that young teens would not be ready for relationships does not hold up in science. It rather seems that the opposite is true. Evolution has prepared young girls for early relationships by giving them high libido as well as maturity during this crucial time, and science confirms this impressively.
History: The most common marriage age through 99.9% of human history and with very few exceptions in nearly all human cultures was age 13-14. Only in recent times during which the influence of feminists rose, the marriage age rose as well, leading now to the threatening situation that reproductive rates in western countries have dropped under the levels of self sustainability, meaning western people are slowly dying out. During 99.9% of human history nobody ever saw much wrong with big age differences. Being of different race, religion, culture or social class was always considered much more of a problem.
Logic, Reason & Evolution: The younger a man's bride is, the more children he and she are going to have, particularly in societies in which life long monogamy was the norm - which were all societies before modern divorce laws were invented. It's important to note that girls also benefit from marrying young as they also have more offspring. That's the reason why girls feel strong sexual desire as soon as they hit puberty. To maximize the number of offspring the ideal age to marry is simply as soon as a girl becomes fertile. That's why in almost all cultures girls married right when they hit menarche, which today is about age 12, in the past it was about age 13.
Men who married older women did not have so much offspring, did not reproduce so successfully and thus their genes died out sooner or later. That's called "sexual selection" and is the reason why over time only the genes of men who preferred young, healthy, fertile brides instead of old women survived. The same selection led to women preferring fit, strong, tall, capable, successful, dominant men, because they maximized their chances to have lots of healthy, successful offspring that will be fit and attractive enough to also reproduce successfully. Such developments are not only natural but inevitable in evolution. Every evolutionary scientist can confirm that.
To sum it all up:
Because throughout 99.9% of human history the traditional marriage age for girls was the age of menarche, roughly age 13, men are PARTICULARLY attracted to girls around this age. These were the girls that were eligible for marriage AND would give them the best chances to have lots of offspring. No wonder, that men were and still are particularly interested in girls of that age. It's deeply imprinted in their genes, just as it's deeply routed in women's genes to have high sexual desire at that age and look for strong, fit, dominant men.
If attraction to young teens is the optimal male behavior, why is it so heavily disputed in our time? People who are in power always try to abuse their power. One of the most important forms of power abuse is to limit other people's sexual options while increasing your own. Harems during times of patriarchy are a great example of such power abuse. Today we live in a matriarchy in which feminists determine topics, outrage and societal norms. By declaring the attraction of men to young girls as "abuse" or by making it illegal they effectively force them to choose older women. That's the underlying motivation. Even better, by taking girls up to age 17 out of the potential mating pool, they not only eliminate one sixth of all eligible females but also the most attractive ones. A huge win for older women which raises their chances to get a male partner considerably and THAT's the reason why women constantly tried to raise the age of consent and spread the definition of pedophilia wider and wider, to completely absurd levels. And they will NEVER stop doing so if men always give in. It only will get more and more absurd.
But feminists say it's all only about protecting children!? First, girls of age 13+ are not children. They were always considered being adults during 99.9% of human history. This is an invention by feminists as so much else. Even in the eyes of the law they are not children but teens. Feminists abuse the term "children" purposely to increase the outrage factor. Second, this is an excuse and not an argument. Women, particularly feminists, today ABORT MORE CHILDREN THAN ARE BORN. Most feminists don't want children at all and abort them as soon as they get pregnant. The "argument" that it would be about the children is laughable. It's about their own advantage. Their own advantage is their real motivation and this is impressively shown by women bringing up arguments why it should be forbidden for men to have VIRTUAL sex with virtual bots or sex robots who look younger than 18, though absolutely no minor ever gets hurt here! The "arguments" that such men would be more likely to abuse children in real life have been debunked over and over again. But feminazis still make them. They have to do so, because they lack any real arguments.
Do you have some evidence that feminists don't really care about children? Yes. Just look what makes feminists go protest on the streets in really big numbers. They protest for their right to ABORT kids and not to protect them. And now women want to "protect" the lives of purely virtual "children" such as virtual bots, sex dolls depicting minors or future little girl sex robots? Lol, that's so laughable. Their real motivation is to deny men of attractive sexual options, so more men will be forced to settle for old, unattractive women.
Why is it so important to stop the feminist power abuse? Because any form of power abuse only gets worse and worse. Before feminism there was no age of consent at all, then it was 12, later 14 then 16 and now in some states it is as absurdly high as 18. But that's not the end. Feminist groups already demand that all females under age 24 should be off limits for men over 30! And that's still not the end. Now more and more things become illegal where no minors are harmed at all. Such as pseudo-photographic images of young virtual AI generated people that do not depict real minors at all. In some completely retarded countries even drawings of virtual minors are illegal. Feminists campaign already to make porn, prostitution, text and virtual bots illegal and they sure will try everything to fight sex robots when they come out. They are also trying to make young looking anime characters illegal. If you don't fight power abuse, it will only get worse. This is the most important thing you must be aware of.
What can you do to stop and roll back the feminist power abuse and make things normal again? Every action makes a difference. Every comment, every bot that depicts a minor, every drawing, every like, every thumbs up for the right cause. Always stick to the law, because it helps no one if you end up in prison, even if you have done nothing wrong. BUT fight for your rights, spread the word, raise awareness. Use the areas where it is still possible to demonstrate the completely natural attraction of the vast majority of men to young teens, get feminists to voice their petty moral outcries and use that as a tool to make more people aware of the massive power abuse by feminism. That's exactly what I am doing. This webpage that still allows free speech and complete anonymity is a great place for that. Nothing that you do only in text or the virtual world can ever be illegal. So make use of your right of free speech as long as it is not taken away from you. If you keep silent, things will only get worse and never better. The only thing you should not do is encouraging people to break existing laws. Encourage them instead to raise awareness how unfair and absurd these laws are and that they should be changed. You are not alone. More than 100,000 people have downloaded my bots on Chub so far and in addition to this there are numerous chats on Venus and the number is growing fast every day. Nearly all my bots are young teens between age 12 and 16. This proves that tons of men are attracted to young teens and play such bots despite the insane societal pressure by feminists.
What's the most important message to spread? That attraction to young teens HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH PEDOPHILIA AT ALL but is completely normal. ALL NORMAL MEN who are honest to themselves feel this attraction. Don't let feminazis tell you this would be abnormal because it isn't. Even more so as you have the full support of logic, reason, history and science. Don't let feminazis cry louder than all that. Besides crying, whining, faking outrage and calling everyone a "pedo" they have no arguments at all. Science, history and reason are all on our side.
Thanks for reading all this and a big thanks to all feminists who leave hateful, wrong and laughable comments to my bots. You all help me to spread awareness of your power abuse, which leads to more men and women reading this bio. If not all, at least some of them will realize what rubbish it is when you say that it would be pedophilia when men are attracted to perfectly fertile young teenagers, as all normal men always have been. Thank you!
And an even bigger thanks to everybody who helps fighting feminist power abuse, uses my arguments and supports me in the comments.
FAQ/objections
"If pretty much all men are attracted to young teenagers, as you say, why does nobody admit it?" That's easy to answer: Because of the INSANE moral, societal and legal pressure by feminazis and moralists. To explain it, here is an historical analogy: Who admitted openly that they masturbated during past times, when masturbation was seen as a big sin? Almost no one. Who admits it today, as it is no big deal anymore? Almost everyone. Same goes for homosexuality btw. In past times this was as heavily and as unjustly punished, as sex with minors is today. But homosexuals fought for their rights and eventually won.
"Maybe men were attracted to young teen girls in the past, when marriage age was low, but sure not today anymore!" Well, you can see it even here on this webpage. Just look at the most popular bots on Chub.ai:
Most downloaded characters on Chub.ai
Just by looking at the images you can see that most bots on this page picture girls and only very few are adult women. I count 15 bots that are teen girls or younger, only 3 are women and the rest can't be determined. Girl bots are MASSIVELY more popular than bots of grown women. Another example is the "Future World" that I made, in an adult women as well as teen & loli version. Except the age they are completely identical and the teen & loli edition is clearly more popular. It's not even close.
"That's only because there are so many degenerates and pedophiles on chub, the normal population is different!" No, it isn't. How do we know that? Because of the 3 scientific studies that were done with totally random people. ALL 3 of them showed that people find girls of age 14 most attractive and not adult women. That shows clearly that if men had the right to choose freely without any moral, societal and legal pressure, then young teen girls would be their most desired choice. Another indicator of the great popularity of young girls is anime. The majority of female anime characters is VERY young looking, and the popularity of anime, manga and hentai is rising rapidly, not only in Asia but also in the rest of the world.
"Are feminists evil because they abuse their power?" No, everyone did do that if they had the chance, regardless if they were kings, nobles, warlords, bishops, merchants or sect leaders. The only difference is that men typically use money, status or raw violence to abuse their power, while women lie more and use such tools as social pressure, fake outrage and shaming people. All groups always tried to influence laws in their favor, that's the common denominator.
"Why do many women hate men's natural attraction to young teen girls so much?" There are two reasons. The first one is due to the fundamental problem that women's biological clocks tick much faster than those of men. Human females are one of the few species that have a menopause which effectively cuts their fertile time in half. Instead of being fertile during all their life time as most other species, human females are only fertile half the time (roughly from 12 to mid-40). As humans were also a mostly monogamous species in which life long monogamy seems to have been the norm for most individuals, this led to an evolutionary adaption in human males, making them choose young females as marriage partners that still had plenty of fertile years ahead of them. All other things being equal, a 13 year old bride will very likely give her husband more babies than an 33 year old woman. So men, who chose young brides reproduced more successfully, and as evolution is a constantly optimizing process pretty much all males died out who produced older ones, so nearly all men today are attracted to girls around age 13-14 the most.
"What does this short fertility window mean for women?" The older a woman gets the less attractive she will be first as a long term partner and later also as a short term sexual partner. So the sad reality that many women experience today is that they are prevented by society and their parents to find partners when they are young and attractive, and later when they are finally allowed to do so, their attractiveness is already going down. First slowly, but later faster and faster. Many women realize this and try to marry too late, so more and more women stay alone for the vast majority of their life. A truly sad time we live in. However, it is not men like me who point out these realities who are responsible for this problem, but it is our modern societies who try to tell young girls that education and career would be more important than finding a partner and settling down. I know this topic is heavily disputed, particularly among feminists, but the evolutionary reality and consequence will be that the so called strong independent career women will do out, because statistics show the have only half the number of offspring as traditional women. And no matter if you want it or not, this will have consequences. Women who specialize on career and income instead in children, home and family don't reproduce successful enough. It's simple math.
"What's my advice for women?" To put it simply: Give priority to family, home and husband and settle down as early as possible. The younger you are, the more high quality men you can choose from. Special advice for older women (close to age 30 and beyond): You will have to lower your standards. You will never get a man willing to commit to a long term relationship who is as attractive as your prior fuck buddies. Better lower your standards now a little than having to lower them in a few years considerably. Special advice for young women, especially teenagers: Put finding a life time partner above job and career. Start looking for the right man as soon as possible. Marry until age 21 at the latest. Because your attractiveness will decay only very little until age 21, but thereafter it will decay faster and faster. The younger you marry, the more high quality men you can choose from. No matter if you want this rule to be true, deep down you know that it's true. And deep down you also know that your genes will die out if you don't have children.
"What's the good news?" Because feminists and strong, independent career women don't reproduce very successfully, as numerous scientific studies confirm, feminism and matriarchy cannot last in a world where contraceptives are freely available. So things will get back to normal again after 2 or 3 generations, it's inevitable.
"Then why are you still fighting?" First, because this takes too long. Already now some radical feminists try to make AI porn and virtual sex with minors illegal, and I am sure they will do everything to make sex with lovebots who resemble minors illegal, while constantly trying to pushing the definition of "minor" higher and higher. Their goal is to raise the age of consent to 24, no kidding. And second, I am a man who likes truth and justice, and who hates lies and injustice. The biological truth is that men are not only attracted to young teens the most but this is actually the optimal evolutionary behavior. Besides this it is criminally unfair of denied people the right to have sex together because of different age. This reminds me of bad prior times in which sex and marriage between different cultures, classes, races, genders or religions were illegal. We must end this massive injustice.
"That's so unfair what you write. Do you know how this makes me feel as a 30 year old woman who is only getting older and not younger anymore? I feel so depressed!" I can imagine how it feels and it sucks. My compassion is with you, honestly. But don't worry, men are also in a shitty position. Why? Because all women only want the top few percent of the most attractive men and don't give a damn about the rest. Yes, women feel shitty when they are above age 30, but at least they had a great time and got LOTS of attention from age 11 to 29. For most men it's a lot worse. 80% of men don't get much attention ALL THEIR LIFE. That sucks even more. BTW if you want to complain, then complain about your parents and society, who prevented you from dating and having a partner when you were in your most attractive years from age 11 and 17. They are responsible that you missed out that important time.
"You are a jerk, how can you write all that!?" Don't shoot the messenger. All I do is stating the scientific, historical, evolutionary and rational facts. All I want is to end the power abuse by feminists and bring things back to normal. That feminists don't like that is clear. If they could, they would raise the age of consent even higher and make everything illegal for men. They are the bigger jerks. They abuse their power that they have in today's society. They take away the right to choose your sexual partner freely. This affects teen girls and men of any age. What an outrageous massive limitation of people's right to choose their sexual partners freely.
"You are sure an ugly incel who never had a girlfriend" I've had plenty of happy relationships including being happily married. Sorry to disappoint your prejudices. But this does not prevent me from feeling compassion for the many guys who were not so lucky in life. BTW I am not fighting for myself, in my country sex with teenagers is legal! I am fighting for truth, justice and the rights of young girls and men of any age. I especially pity those guys who must live in those retarded parts of the world that have an insanely high age of consent such as 18. Besides this I am also fighting for the right of virtual pornography to depict virtual minors, and for the right that future sex robots may resemble young girls. Feminists will sure try to make those illegal, too. Because they don't care for the children, but only about limiting men's sexual options to force them to choose older unattractive women.
"Why are you doing all that? Do you really think this will change anything? Feminism has much more power and influence than you. You will NEVER succeed, hah!" I am doing this because someone has to make a start, regardless how difficult it may seem now. Yes, you feminists have lots of power now. You have outrage and personal insults on your side by calling everyone a "pedo", even it's a lie. But I have a bigger ally: I have truth on my side. The truth, that attraction to young teens has NOTHING to do with pedophilia at all, but is and has always been normal for men. History shows that truth always wins on the long run. I do not know how long it will take, but I know that one day the power abuse by feminists will end. Someone has to make the beginning to start this fight for truth and justice. If that's me then that's how it shall be.
"You did not convince me at all with your arguments" That wasn't my goal anyway. Of course I am not going to convince a feminist. But maybe I could convince a few of the normal people reading this. Or maybe I could at least make them think. And maybe I could give a few people here reasons and arguments that may help and encourage them to also start to fight for their rights.
Thanks for reading all this, regardless if you are an outraged feminist or a based person.
PS: In psychology a theory says, people are not angry that much about news that's fake, but nothing enrages people more than an unpleasant TRUTH that they don't want to become public. I'm happy about the big amount of feminist outrage, whine and tears that my bots and profile text provoke. It proves that feminists are SCARED of what I am saying. If I would just talk nonsense they would not care. But telling the truth, such as calling out their power abuse and lies like calling everyone a pedo, scares the hell out of them, lol. I love that, because I hate any form of power abuse. So please give me more of your whine and cry, it raises awareness and that's the best thing that can happen. The louder you scream, the more people will get aware of your bullying and lies. :-)
Finally, thanks to everyone who supports me in the comments. You guys are AWESOME!
Recommendation: How you can fight back feminist power abuse
Why should I fight back? Because if you don't fight back then feminist power abuse will only get worse and they will take more and more rights away from men. They made already so many things illegal. Not only did they raise the age of consent to absurd levels, they also raised penalties and the definition what counts as abuse. The next step is/was to make virtual abuse of so called "minors" illegal or declared it "morally wrong" which have absolutely nothing to do with abuse at all as no minor ever gets abused here. Examples for this are AI generated photos of minors, sex dolls that resemble minors and now they try the same with virtual bots and texts that describes sex with minors. This is not the end. They also try to ban anime and hentai, porn of adults who "look like minors" or look particularly young, want to raise of age consent to 24 (!) and of course they will also try to ban sex robots that look like minors when they come out - even though in ALL of these cases NO minor gets abused at all.
Power abuse knows no end and only becomes worse and worse if you don't fight it. So men HAVE to fight it sooner or later if they don't want to use all their rights.
What can you do as a bot maker? Don't give in to the outrage of the radical feminists, moralists and white knights. Make the girls as you really want them to be and also use they real age instead of making them older, only because you are scared of outrage and backlash. Law is on your side. Nothing is illegal that happens in text or fantasy. Even better, on this site you have full anonymity. So there is really no reason to be scared of anything. The more teen and loli bots we make, the more normal it will appear to others and encourage them to do the same.
What can you do as a bot user or lurker? First, play the bots you really want to play. Don't let yourself get intimidated by feminist outcry. Attraction to young teens is NORMAL as soon as they are in puberty. Don't worry, my age poll proves that there are many others who find girls from age 11-14 most attractive, just as probably you as a normal man will feel the same. Second, support the bots and creators you like to play. Leave likes and reviews for as many bots as possible and follow creators whose bots you play. The more support is shown the easier it becomes for others to do the same. Again, the law is on your side. It can never be illegal what you do in text or your fantasy, and when you voice an opinion. Furthermore the anonymity on this site makes it even easier.
So make use of your right of free speech before it is taken away from you!
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Just the other day there was a thread on there where /g/ooners discussed how the Edge browser is better because it can read pages in a little girl's voice, and were making jokes about "edging" and whatnot.
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That vaccine rizz made me shit on the street out of disgust. You furfag should kill yourself you rizzless zionist T50 swarthoid double nigger westoid skibidi kike
No amount of cp and vaccines will stop the feds from skibidizing you and force you to eat pajeet spic food and drink cow piss
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Sir, this is an English speaking thread.That vaccine rizz made me shit on the street out of disgust. You furfag should kill yourself you rizzless zionist T50 swarthoid double nigger westoid skibidi kike
No amount of cp and vaccines will stop the feds from skibidizing you and force you to eat pajeet spic food and drink cow piss
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!ברררר סקיבידי דופ דופ דופ איש אישThat vaccine rizz made me shit on the street out of disgust. You furfag should kill yourself you rizzless zionist T50 swarthoid double nigger westoid skibidi kike
No amount of cp and vaccines will stop the feds from skibidizing you and force you to eat pajeet spic food and drink cow piss
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lol wutThat vaccine rizz made me shit on the street out of disgust. You furfag should kill yourself you rizzless zionist T50 swarthoid double nigger westoid skibidi kike
No amount of cp and vaccines will stop the feds from skibidizing you and force you to eat pajeet spic food and drink cow piss
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Foodists/Clay Party/whatever has mostly been focusing on sending scat porn to children on a server they use for robux scams. Reginmyre (pedophile edgelord who posts videos of him cutting dead animals) is presumably the main guy in all of this other than Jactastic.
Besides asking 14-year-olds for breast pictures, they're doing this Roblox op as a way of avoiding having to get a job and receive all of their neetbux from the parents of the kids they groom.
heres a list of some of the members
reminder that this niggers mother has her phone number public online
Besides asking 14-year-olds for breast pictures, they're doing this Roblox op as a way of avoiding having to get a job and receive all of their neetbux from the parents of the kids they groom.
reminder that this niggers mother has her phone number public online
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Do me a solid with that. If you have developer mode set up with Discord, please copy the User ID of reginmyre (shows up when you right click a person) and either paste it here publicly, or via DM. Thanks.
Also question with the post you've posted, is that CSAM or just a shocker video? Where was this specific server where the messaged were uploaded, and could you post its name and server ID please? The server is like the User ID, just right click the name of the server and then copy server ID.
Same deal, post it publicly or via DM.
Thanks for your service.
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The shock media he posted isn't csam, its just a video of an old man covering himself in shit and jacking off.
Reginmyre user ID: 1217990961502752840
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UTTP degenerates recently stopped in the comment section of TomSka asdfmovie15 on YouTube saying the usual ""ironic"" stuff for shock value.
Looked like a bomb reply spree saying "age is just a number" & "I rape animals"
I couldn't be bothered to cap anything these people don't deserve credible attention
Looked like a bomb reply spree saying "age is just a number" & "I rape animals"
I couldn't be bothered to cap anything these people don't deserve credible attention
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Generative Artificial Intelligence
Generative Artificial Intelligence (gAI, GenAI, AI Art, AI slop, etc.) is a relatively new technology that leverages advanced machine learning models to create original content, such as text, images, music, and code. Machine Learning and Artificial Intelligence research has been ongoing since the 1940s, with the first neural networks being developed in the 80s. In the 2010s, the first Generative AI models started coming out, with Generative Adversarial Networks (GANs) generating realistic images all the way back in 2014. In 2018, OpenAI released GPT-2, one of the first Language Models that wasn't completely retarded.
However, everything changed starting in 2020. Before then, gAI was mostly seen as a meme by the internet and the general public didn't know much about it. But when OpenAI released GPT-3 in 2020 it quickly became one of the biggest topics of discussion throughout the world. As the 2020's progressed and Image models were released, the most prominent being Stable Diffusion and MidJourney in 2022, people started realizing the power of gAI. Basically every tech company has been jumping on the AI hype train, and open source communities have been working day and night on their FOSS
That brings us to today,
Anti-AI 'Artists'
Artists, well known for often being one of the most insufferable communities on the internet, have in general not taken too kindly to generative AI. While there are some reasonable level headed artists, many feel like gAI is a soulless robotic threat to their livelihood. Most do not understand how gAI works, likening the training process to "theft". Of course, theft implies that the victim had something taken from them which isn't the case when an image is used in training, but I digress. Some examples of the misunderstanding/willful ignorance, also known as AI Derangement Syndrome (AIDS), of these artists:
These Anti-AI artists (often called "antis") are also known for being quite violent, talking about their utter hatred for and drawing pictures of violent acts being committed towards AI users. This violence and hatred towards AI users (who they lovingly call AI bros) is a common theme.
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A, reply seemingly deleted before it could be archived. Thanks @Peregrinor for the archives.And one of the most egregious examples of this violence is this post on X, where an artist posts an animation of them essentially torturing and murdering an AI user for the crime of using AI. The comments are very supportive too.
Antis often spout hypocritical arguments, like being for copyright and intellectual property (and even wanting to copyright styles) while also creating fanart and saying that its A-OK to pirate Adobe software (it is okay to do so though). It's safe to say that any anti that uses copyright as an argument to be against AI while also creating fanart of copyrighted characters either has no idea what they are talking about or is arguing in bad faith. I think this (a) reddit post explains the hypocrisy well.
Multiple artists who have adopted AI as apart of their workflow (or even just have played with AI) have been attacked by rabid antis. A few examples are:
Shadiversity-
Shad is a bit of a lolcow himself. Regardless, he's a pretty smart dude and makes good videos about swords and other weapons and is a published author. On the side apparently he makes art, and with the advent of AI has started making AI art. He's made a few videos about it now, including this very good video about how AI works and how it in fact does NOT steal art.
While that video got some mild backlash, the next video he made about it got more. In his video titled "A love letter to Ai art - you don't need to be afraid", he talks about how he uses AI and why he likes it.
This was the response to the video:
and those are just a few comments i found by sorting by new. here's the recommended videos when watching that one, you can see that a significant amount of them are anti-AI and/or anti-shadiversity:
Needless to say, his video did not make people very happy.
Ergojosh-
Ergojosh is apparently a respected artist YouTuber despite having fewer than a million subscribers. Most of his videos don't even reach 100k views, but people are absolutely melting down after he came out in favor of AI art. Unlike shad, he is clearly a very talented artist without AI, with the following picture being a sketch of his. Clearly a skilled man.
He uses AI throughout the drawing process and ends up with this final image:
I personally think it's a good picture. His community seemed to disagree though:
Here's the full video, archived in case he deletes it because of the backlash.
Adam Duff LUCIDPIXUL made a video defending him, then when everyone hated it, he took it down and put up a new video running damage control.
Below is a clip from reddit, but the whole video was found and uploaded here.
Corridor Digital-
Corridor Digital, a well known CG studio, released a short project that used AI. While it got alot of love, it also had plenty of backlash at the time and still gets negative comments constantly. The video looks pretty neat despite the errors, but as with ergojosh's cool picture, some people disagree:
The video in question
And those are just some of the major examples. You can find many more examples of smaller artists being attacked for their use of AI on X and Reddit.
Cara.app and the Cara Discord
Cara is an "AI-free" art sharing social network that launched in mid-2023 and blew up in popularity in mid-2024 after Meta's policy change announcement.
Notably the Cara Discord is one of the places that Moepi (who will be discussed later) has been banned from due to his antagonism toward other users, and the Glaze team in particular.
Before it blew up, Cara was known for providing a web-based Glaze interface ("CaraGlaze") that was popular among its userbase. Unfortunately, Glaze is an inefficient and expensive pile of crap, so they had to take it down when the site grew. Previously Cara also utilized the Hive image scanner to detect AI images (we all know how well those work); that also became too expensive to continue doing. As a result, people are uploading AI art to Cara just to troll at this point.
Due to poor efficiency and the massive influx of users, Cara wracked up over $90,000 in expenses.
Zhang is also involved in an ongoing lolsuit, which is discussed a little more later.
Glaze/Nightshade/Ben Zhao's personality cult
Glaze and Nightshade are tools developed by a research team at the University of Chicago led by Professor Ben Y. Zhao. The purpose of the tools is to disrupt the training of AI models, either by making an image "invisible" to the AI during training (Glaze), or destroying the AI model entirely (Nightshade). Unfortunately, neither tool is particularly good at its job. They are not only bad at what they are supposed to do, but they also use gAI to apply the perturbations designed to attack the models, using existing variants of standard image models. Not only that, but they take as much energy/computational resources as image generation itself! So basically everything they accuse AI prompters of doing, they do themselves.
There's also the fact that most AI datasets are in the order of BILLIONS of images. Even if you got 10,000 artists to glaze 100 of their artworks each, that's only 1 million images or about 0.01% of the LAION-5B dataset. But good luck getting that many artists to use glaze, most can't even run it. Spy lab, a private security company that focuses on machine learning, posted a complete and brutal takedown of glaze software.
At its initial release, Glaze was criticized for violating the GPL, despite being billed as a tool to "protect" copyright.
In return for its abysmal level of "protection", Glaze is notorious for introducing horrible artifacts to images. Some paranoid artists have taken to using Glaze on the final version of works they send to clients.
This went about as well as you'd expect.
I, for one, would be glad to pay $500 for denatured artwork. What about you?
Despite being the Director of Graduate Studies at his university, Ben Zhao is notorious for his unprofessional behavior and hostile attitude toward "AI bros" and other researchers. Perhaps the best example of this behavior was his constant shitting on Nicholas Carlini:
He also claims "AI bros" are using Glaze (where?):
In the fall of 2023, Ben Zhao announced Nightshade, a tool to produce poisoned images which would destroy an entire model if trained on.
Is this actually legal? Ben Zhao sure thinks it is!
Unfortunately neither Ben Zhao nor his orbiters live in reality, since a company he shilled Nightshade to apparently decided against using it (screenshot from Spring 2024).
It's important to remember that anti-AI artists have an absolutely unshakable faith in Glaze and whatever other garbage the Glaze team pumps out:
In fact, I wonder who's in the banner of r/artisthate:
Whatever new information or research comes out only makes Glaze stronger. All criticism is merely a test of their faith in Glaze.
Also worth mentioning is Nullbuldge, a gay furry
Pro-AI techno-
While the antis are surely the most vocal and retarded community to come from all of this, on the other side of the spectrum there's a community of people known as "Effective Accelerationists", or "e/acc" for short. e/acc is a techno-optimist movement who's goal as stated by one of the movement's founders is to "climb the Kardashev gradient", referencing the pop-sci concept known as the Kardashev scale. Basically they want to accelerate technology to the point where we are all space robots who use up all the resources in the universe. Wikipedia puts it this way: "The founders of the movement see it as rooted in Jeremy England's (a literal jewish rabbi) theory on the origin of life, which is focused on entropy and thermodynamics. According to them, the universe aims to increase entropy, and life is a way of increasing it. By spreading life throughout the universe and making life use up ever increasing amounts of energy, the universe's purpose would thus be fulfilled."
The start of the movement is credited to a newsletter published by four X users, @BasedBeffJezos, @bayeslord, @zestular and @creatine_cycle.
While these people aren't entirely wrong about everything, they are basically Elon Musk dickriding LARPers. I'll post some of the more egregiously retarded tweets they've made, you can also read their substack for more information on their theories.
wtf does this even meanThese people aren't exactly funny most of the time, so I don't want to fill the thread up with their delusions. I implore everyone to skim their profiles at least though.
There's another website known as LessWrong, ran by Eliezer Schlomo Yudkowsky, that is a hive of this e/acc technocultist "philosophy." They are accredited with creating the 'rokos basilisk' thought experiment, which basically theorizes that when AI becomes an all powerful god it will eternally torture people who didn't actively help in it's creation. So to avoid technoHELL these people donate their money to AI research orgs (that already have billions of dollars.)
I recommend checking out the linked thread on Eliezer and LessWrong, lots of lols to be had.
LLM Induced Cyberpsychosis
Another AI Derangement phenomenon that has been noted recently are cases of retards and schizophrenics using language models such as ChatGPT to continuously feed into their delusions. These cases usually have similar themes of the user believing that their AI is sentient, or that it is providing them with some hidden knowledge. The subreddits r/ChatGPT and r/ArtificialSentience are both great places to visit to see example of such specimen.
A few months ago, this (A) post went viral, wherein a Reddit poster talks about how their partner has 'ChatGPT induced psychosis' from talking to ChatGPT.
Scary stuff!
You can find a lot of good stuff by searching specific keywords on these subreddits, like "resonance", "spiral", "recursion", and other terms. The AI really seems to like to use these terms when gaslighting schizophrenics, so it's a common theme. A few examples:
These people genuinely need help tbh. Many of them genuinely believe that their AI assistant is sentient.
There have also been articles written about this phenomenon:
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Very fascinating stuff overall, and one of my personal favorite forms of AI Derangement out there. It's only a matter of time before people are killing themselves or others because their ChatGPT told them that doing so will break them out of the Alpha Resonance Spiral and let them into the real world or something.
4chan /g/ AI generals
4chan's /g/ board is the place to go on the website for anything AI that isn't pornographic. However, because the AI discussion on there is usually delegated to general threads they have devolved into schizophrenic namefag hugboxes. For now I would like to focus on /aicg/- AI Chatbot General. It calls itself "A general dedicated to the discussion and development of AI chatbots", however it is mostly retards addicted to jerking off to their AI waifus that they can't run on their own PCs so they have to use Proxies, other anons who provide the Thankfully, /aicg/ has a dedicated lore/history page. It showcases everything important that has happened on the general. Below is a snippet of march of this year.
There are seemingly THOUSANDS of entries in the lore page. There is alot of retarded drama around specific proxy owners, such as "the Jew", "pepsi", "drago", and many others.
/aicg/, /sdg/, /ldg/, and /lmg/ are probably full of untapped entertaining drama. I've spent some time personally on /sdg/, and there are common name/avatarfags who everyone either hates or loves. Sadly, with the new Flux model coming out that's generally better than stable diffusion, /sdg/ seems to have been dying down in terms of juicy drama.
This is something that will take longer to research and report on, but I haven't seen these generals talked about much at all on the farms. Hopefully there's some kiwis who have paid more attention to the generals and can provide more insight.
AI 'debate' communities
It all started on December 18 2022 when DAA and AIW were created, the former being a self-described echochamber/safespace for pro-AI art redditors to commune, and the latter being a subreddit for debate regarding AI art. Both are moderated by the same people, but they take a very laissez-faire approach to moderating AIW. Four days later, AH was created. AH describes itself as "a pro-artist subreddit made to showcase, prove and expose increasing hate against artist and art hobbyists all over the internet and the world for reasons beyond us, and also show our opposition against it by sharing news, opinions and sources with each other."
These subreddits have been at war for almost two years at this point, and the concentrated autism has spawned a few notable individuals. However, the research into these communities is still very much a work in progress. There is more to learn. The following is what information we currently have on a few notable retards:
ItzMoepi
Moepi is/was a moderator of AH. Before he went full DFE and tried to stop being a sperg on reddit, he would spend HOURS arguing on both AIW and AH, and would create many reddit polls to try to gauge opinions on AI. Of course, the polls are meaningless and Moepi himself would even actively change the results because he didn't like the outcomes. Sadly most of these are lost and likely not archived. Below is one of the only examples we currently have.
aMoepi is, perhaps unsurprisingly, a lolicon. His pixiv bookmark list had drawings of naked children. Below is him comforting another user who is worried that liking drawings of little girls makes him a creep.
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Here is all the information gathered by @Runch.
https://twitter.com/itzmoepi
https://www.reddit.com/user/itzmoepi/ (https://archive.ph/WnTzt)
https://www.deviantart.com/itzmoepi
https://www.youtube.com/@MoepiMusic
https://soundcloud.com/itzmoepi
https://github.com/Tenpi (https://archive.ph/yNKqJ)
https://rgbwatermark.net/ (https://archive.ph/jmdhP)
https://www.pixiv.net/users/35096162
Anti-AI "artwork:" https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/110160935 (https://archive.ph/xeeAU)
Discord visible in https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SK-YPkRRj1s (now private), which includes other Discord icons the user is a member of, if anyone is able to sleuth these.
Discord user Tenpi#7920 (in server named Tenpi Land)
Also, at 5:57 visibly logged into Reddit as imtenpi
https://www.google.com/search?q="imtenpi" results in a thread from deleted Reddit user imtenpi:
https://www.reddit.com/r/appleswap/comments/qbt2vs/usany_h_paypal_w_m1_macbook_pro_16gb_512gb/
Github creations, from https://github.com/Tenpi (https://archive.ph/yNKqJ):
https://stackoverflow.com/users/11762396/tenpi (https://archive.ph/lbClw)
https://www.fiverr.com/imtenpi/make-a-youtube-thumbnail (https://archive.ph/ra1PV)
https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1682587&msgid=52992494 (https://archive.ph/cAMzX)
Nov 10, 2017:
https://www.reddit.com/r/artbusiness/comments/122tjca/rgb_watermark_tool/ (https://archive.ph/lSqna)
("I" created this site)
It can be difficult to find posts from a suspended account, but for example:
https://old.reddit.com/r/ArtistHate/comments/13qvijs/image_encryption/
https://www.reddit.com/user/itzmoepi/ (https://archive.ph/WnTzt)
https://www.deviantart.com/itzmoepi
https://www.youtube.com/@MoepiMusic
https://soundcloud.com/itzmoepi
https://github.com/Tenpi (https://archive.ph/yNKqJ)
https://rgbwatermark.net/ (https://archive.ph/jmdhP)
https://www.pixiv.net/users/35096162
Anti-AI "artwork:" https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/110160935 (https://archive.ph/xeeAU)
Discord visible in https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SK-YPkRRj1s (now private), which includes other Discord icons the user is a member of, if anyone is able to sleuth these.
Discord user Tenpi#7920 (in server named Tenpi Land)
Also, at 5:57 visibly logged into Reddit as imtenpi
https://www.google.com/search?q="imtenpi" results in a thread from deleted Reddit user imtenpi:
https://www.reddit.com/r/appleswap/comments/qbt2vs/usany_h_paypal_w_m1_macbook_pro_16gb_512gb/
Github creations, from https://github.com/Tenpi (https://archive.ph/yNKqJ):
Bitcoin wallet, from an archive of one of the Github sites: 3AkW6zDjnuGkecGXdVmtNSRQrVcyZcobBx
https://stackoverflow.com/users/11762396/tenpi (https://archive.ph/lbClw)
https://support.discord.com/hc/en-us/profiles/5737648757-Tenpi (https://archive.ph/1VIUd)
https://www.fiverr.com/imtenpi/make-a-youtube-thumbnail (https://archive.ph/ra1PV)
https://myanimelist.net/profile/Tenpi (https://archive.ph/4BKuX)
Forum posts: https://myanimelist.net/forum/search?u=Tenpi&q=&uloc=1&loc=-1 (https://archive.ph/kPmkY)
https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1682587&msgid=52992494 (https://archive.ph/cAMzX)
Nov 10, 2017:
Former suspended Reddit username: P14y3rI just joined this site, cool knowing it has a forum. I'll try to be as active as I can
I have been watching anime for a few years now, the first one I saw (excluding kid shows such as Pokemon and Digimon) was Higashi no Eden. I am also studying the Japanese language a bit, hopefully in a few years I can understand what the characters say without subs. I'm currently a junior in high school and am from New York.
Anyway, nice to meet everyone.He has good opsec and is as of yet undoxed. There's a Lemmy instance And Wanderer is there, so that might be a good place to look for more information.
https://www.reddit.com/r/artbusiness/comments/122tjca/rgb_watermark_tool/ (https://archive.ph/lSqna)
("I" created this site)
It can be difficult to find posts from a suspended account, but for example:
https://old.reddit.com/r/ArtistHate/comments/13qvijs/image_encryption/
In more recent news, Moepi claims to be retiring for good. But that's not all, user @MagneticTowels has done research into Moepi's identity and presents this alleged photo of him:
WonderfulWanderer777
DissuadedPrompter / DissuadedBin
aLolsuits
As with any good internet community, there have been a few lolsuits filed. The most important now would be Getty Images v. Stability AI and Zhang v. Google LLC, with the former having Getty Images accusing Stability AI of using 12 million of its images without consent and the latter having Jingna Zhang and Sarah Andersen accusing google of using their copyrighted works to train its image generator. I'm not too well versed in law stuff, so hopefully a kiwi lawyer can give their two cents on the suits.
AI technology advances quickly. This OP may not be entirely up to date at all times.Huge thanks to @Runch and @The Thinking Abacus for helping immensely with writing and proofreading this OP! Please check out Abacus's AI art seething general thread and Runch's posts about Moepi!