US US Politics General - Discussion of President Biden and other politicians

 

[Betonhaus]

Well that doesn't sound good

 

[The Hardest R]

Heres my debate prediction: its going to be a nothing burger.
Biden is going to yell like a crazy old man like he did at the SOTU. Lies will be told. Pundits will spin it as 'fiery, energetic and passionate' while saying 'orange man bad'.
Trump is also old yet younger than Biden and still sharper and will be fine, but no one will give him enough credit.
There will be no large knockouts.

Its not going to change anyones mind, but everyone on TV and journo columnists will be wringing their hands about age and dignity of the office. I can already see the lines: "Ive watched this argument play out in a retirement home before," "Two elderly men make the case for who should lead an uncertain nation," etc.

Yep. Debates are pretty meaningless and have been for a while now. Debates presuppose an intelligent voter base (read: white men) who are undecided between two semi-competent candidates. Both Biden and Trump come from an era where it mattered. These days, debates are all about a journoscum moderator looking to make a name for xyrself, by showing just how they can help the Democrats out. This became apparent with Gwen Ifill in 2012 and has become the norm ever since.

Blacks and browns are going to vote for whoever is most likely going to give them the most amount of gibs possible. Suburban white women are going to vote against the meanest candidate. White men, the largest Republican base, deliberately gets ignored. Debates change none of these dynamics. Turning them into a mockery is a fitting end for them because it’ll likely be a thing of the past very soon. Just one of those institutions that’ll crumble away as we continue our descent into the third world.

Who represented the Tea Party? Where are they now?

The tea party was ran by a neocon named Dick Armey with a PAC he founded called FreedomWorks. The sentiment was real but it was a gayop from day one. Many politicians didn’t get elected, many only served one or two terms before getting washed out and the rest basically integrated into the neocon fold like Lil Marco Rubio who was considered a tea party hero at the time. Rand Paul is a semi-exception. Very few are still in office in current year plus nine. Dick Armey, Glenn Beck, et. al made off like bandits with hundreds of millions of dollars pocketed. Oliver North was heavily involved too and he has the perfect Reverse Midas Touch. Anytime Oliver North gets involved in anything, do the exact opposite. His ability to fuck up anything he touches is uncanny; I don’t think it’s intentional, he’s just retarded.

 

[Kuritan Deplorable]

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Well that doesn't sound good

I'm not super versed in exactly what impact that swing has, considering dumping them means someone else bought them, but those are small numbers on the overall, assuming its treasury bonds. China owns closer to a trillion dollars of treasury bonds, and that still only comes to a few percent of the bonds, which is around 25 trillion.

At worse I'd imagine China dumping them is going to affect the sale value of all the other holders who might want to sell right now, but considering the whole point of them is "Eventually turn in for a guaranteed amount of cash", not being able to sell them for as favorable of a percentage of that being returned right now is just a liquidity risk for holders, not armageddon on its own.

 

[FieldPiece]

There are no solutions to expensive healthcare. Keeping fat drunk idiots alive is expensive. It’s not an administrative problem, it’s a biological one.

There's a very easy solution to the cost of healthcare. It's the actual reality of universal healthcare without the comforting lies that typically accompany it. Enslave doctors and nurses. Beat doctors and nurses within an inch of their lives if they fail in their duties. They want to act like some high and mighty selfless protector of life then treat them like it. To paraphrase Hayek "Doctors and scientists are the tyrants best friends". Sam Hyde is entirely right when he says you should beat the fuck out of nurses and doctors.

 

[Man at Arms]

Thank me for my service, leg.

This is what you children don't understand. None of us give a fuck about your gratitude. Hence why none of us ever ask, tell stories or even mention anything of service to retards like you.

You mean nothing to any of us.

 

[Absolutego]

There are no solutions to expensive healthcare. Keeping fat drunk idiots alive is expensive. It’s not an administrative problem, it’s a biological one.

I, for one, would sure be interested to see what happens if hospitals/clinics are forced to publicly list prices for preventative care and what happens if we don't have a pharmaceutical cartel operating in concert with the federal government to make it literally illegal to import generic versions of common medicines, but yeah, we totally spend more than any other developed country on healthcare because we're all fat alcoholics. That's definitely the only problem here.

 

[The Hardest R]

I, for one, would sure be interested to see what happens if hospitals/clinics are forced to publicly list prices for preventative care and what happens if we don't have a pharmaceutical cartel operating in concert with the federal government to make it literally illegal to import generic versions of common medicines, but yeah, we totally spend more than any other developed country on healthcare because we're all fat alcoholics. That's definitely the only problem here.

It has not been explained to me how I can get these prices at the vet for my dog but is impossible for a person.

 

[Spud]

Thank me for my service, leg.

Thank you for your service to Israel and increasing the stock price of Raytheon, Lockheed Martin and General Dynamics by .4%

 

[MirrorNoir]

So who were the other contenders in 2004, besides Kerry? Obama wasn't a thing then, yeah?

The big matchup DNC wise was Howard Dean vs John Jerry, because Hillary was still in her first term as Senator and Al Gore noped out.

Dean was the youth vote candidate but got taken down by the DNC with help from the media via the infamous "boisterous scream" clip which the media replayed over and over while claiming Dean was mentally ill to kneecap his political career.

Kerry was picked mainly because he was a Vietnam vet to appeal to the pro war crowd but in general, the vibe was that Bush was unstoppable and when Gore refused to do a rematch and Hillary opted to wait for more years, Kerry got the nomination due to lack of alternatives.

 

[AnotherPleb]

GG was a mixed bag.

The Wokies successfully infested the industry and have been gentrifying it for themselves -- the ugly mannish Mary Jane, for example, or the fag flags all over some games that you aren't allowed to mod out. The usual suspects just retreated into the background and made extortion companies. But with the infinite free DEI/ESG money this was always going to happen, there's no realistic way to have prevented that, so I'm not sure that's a GG L. And that money's gone, and not coming back, and now the companies are going to need to come back to the neckbeards and the basement dwellers that were willing to spend ungodly amounts of money keeping up on the latest console + gaming PC + releases. And unfortunately for them... those people are kind of sick of it all.

GG did destroy the gaming press and made people aware of the problem. Which was the real win. They had been doing this shit for a while before GG but until GG there wasn't a mass uprising and it wasn't common knowledge. Now it is. And they can't push that back into the bottle.

The bigger win GG had was waking the younger generation that otherwise had no interest in politics to how fucked up journalism really is. Because the thing is, once you see it happen in gaming journalism? It's a lot easier to notice it, say, two years down the road when they tried the exact same shit to Trump.

 

[Nottafed]

Dean was the youth vote candidate but got taken down by the DNC with help from the media via the infamous "boisterous scream" clip which the media replayed over and over while claiming Dean was mentally ill to kneecap his political career.

I was all in on Howard. This was the moment I began to suspect something might not be on the up and up with our media.

 

[Jet Fuel Johnny]

Having dated several military guys, recruiters are either useless idiots who haven't been buck broken by the cruel indifference of the US military and how it fucks the troops over, brown-noser types being laterally transferred out of the way so they don't fuck shit up for others, or jaded types who hit the wall in terms of career advancement and are counting down to retirement and want an assignment where they can be stateside and near their families.

Drill instructors meanwhile are either sadists, true believer types of various quality in terms being able to properly train a new soldier, carerists who think being a DI will get them a promotion, and people who are being punished for some imagined slight by a higher up.

Once you hit a certain point in your career, fucking PERSCOM sidles up to you and goes:

Recruiter School, DI School, or this posting right here: [Insert some fucking sci-fi horror bullshit post, probably overrun with wendigo and vampires]

It's one of the things everyone dreads. Best you can hope for is: A) The misjudged you and you totally want to fist fight a vampire and anally master a wendigo OR B) You go DI and get sent to some shit like PLDC or BNCOC or an AIT.

Worse case: You end up a recruiter in a middle class Dem area and put up with faggot parents or worse, you end up in a big city wishing you were dead, or, even WORSE, they send you to some fucking Female Basic Training Unit and you wish you were dead.

 

[AnotherPleb]

Best you can hope for is: A) They misjudged you and you totally want to fist fight a vampire and anally master a wendigo

Depends on the pay grade.

 

[Fatsuit Shinji]

Kerry was picked mainly because he was a Vietnam vet to appeal to the pro war crowd but in general, the vibe was that Bush was unstoppable

That was not the thinking at the time as before the internet stepped in, Bush was seen as most definitely stoppable. As he and the RNC sure as fuck didn't do a God damn thing to defend his military record or himself from the democrats' accusations of poor conduct and draft dodging by joining the Texas Air National Guard to avoid going to Vietnam.

 

[MirrorNoir]

That was not the thinking at the time as before the internet stepped in, Bush was seen as most definitely stoppable. As he and the RNC sure as fuck didn't do a God damn thing to defend his military record or himself from the democrats' accusations of poor conduct and draft dodging by joining the Texas Air National Guard to avoid going to Vietnam.

Did you forget the whole laying a trap thing they did that ended up getting Dan Rather fired and his career destroyed to the point that not even MSNBC would hire him?

Not to mention that Kerry's war record was such that Bush's team had to deploy the Swift Boat attack vector to try and discredit Kerry.

 

[TJT]

I'm not super versed in exactly what impact that swing has, considering dumping them means someone else bought them, but those are small numbers on the overall, assuming its treasury bonds. China owns closer to a trillion dollars of treasury bonds, and that still only comes to a few percent of the bonds, which is around 25 trillion.

At worse I'd imagine China dumping them is going to affect the sale value of all the other holders who might want to sell right now, but considering the whole point of them is "Eventually turn in for a guaranteed amount of cash", not being able to sell them for as favorable of a percentage of that being returned right now is just a liquidity risk for holders, not armageddon on its own.

The growth of a parallel global financial structure that does not require USD means that domestic inflation will grow far beyond our control, eventually.

Once a nation or organization is no longer required to hold USD to do business they will offload it the only place they can. In the USA or to another nation that still needs to hold it. As more nations lean into a different structure it means more $ make their way back to the USA. Flooding our currency market with dollars that would have normally stayed overseas.

It's really chickens coming home to roost. Decades of money printing and out of control spending without the global unipolar authority to simply ignore it.

Yes, it's not a lot now. But 10 years from now?

 

[HTTP Error 404]

The growth of a parallel global financial structure that does not require USD means that domestic inflation will grow far beyond our control, eventually.

Once a nation or organization is no longer required to hold USD to do business they will offload it the only place they can. In the USA or to another nation that still needs to hold it. As more nations lean into a different structure it means more $ make their way back to the USA. Flooding our currency market with dollars that would have normally stayed overseas.

It's really chickens coming home to roost. Decades of money printing and out of control spending without the global unipolar authority to simply ignore it.

Yes, it's not a lot now. But 10 years from now?

Lucky for us they're going to force us into a digital currency so they can hit the reset button before then, eh?

 

[TJT]

Having dated several military guys, recruiters are either useless idiots who haven't been buck broken by the cruel indifference of the US military and how it fucks the troops over, brown-noser types being laterally transferred out of the way so they don't fuck shit up for others, or jaded types who hit the wall in terms of career advancement and are counting down to retirement and want an assignment where they can be stateside and near their families.

Drill instructors meanwhile are either sadists, true believer types of various quality in terms being able to properly train a new soldier, carerists who think being a DI will get them a promotion, and people who are being punished for some imagined slight by a higher up.

I spent 6 years active duty US Army.

You're missing two things here. Recruiter and Drill Sergeant are pretty much guaranteed to get you to E7/Sergeant First Class. That's why so many people do it. Both services are voluntary in most cases. Everything else you said is just an uninformed opinion.

 

[mlanguishi]

That was not the thinking at the time as before the internet stepped in, Bush was seen as most definitely stoppable. As he and the RNC sure as fuck didn't do a God damn thing to defend his military record or himself from the democrats' accusations of poor conduct and draft dodging by joining the Texas Air National Guard to avoid going to Vietnam.

The more I think about it, the more I agree that Bush had a decent chance of losing. And without Kerry's '"actually did vote for the $87 billion before I voted against it' disaster and the swift boating mess, even Kerry might've had a decent chance.

Back then, like with Dean's scream all over the media, the MSM would trash on Democrats a little bit. By 2008 and Obama that was entirely forbidden to say anything negative or only in light them being 'right wing conspiracies' and it's that way to this day.

 

[The Ugly One]

His solution a mandate to buy private health insurance which fucking sucks and the opposition rather than offer up their solution to rising healthcare costs screams night and day.

The opposition was barred from proposing amendments by the Speaker of the House.