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This really isn't a big deal and the tantrum you're all throwing over it is exactly what they want, they want to be able to point it out to normies and make you look unreasonable.

That's not entirely fair. The sleaziness of an unfaithful translation is indicative of all the qualms people have with translators right now. It's been happening a lot recently, but this is the first time it's really been applied to an extremely significant and cherished product, especially when the original exists to compare it to. The most recent example to compare this to otherwise is Guilty Gear, but that doesn't have a fraction of the sales of the original TTYD, which dwarfs it something like thirty times over, hence the disgruntlement. You may find it pathetic, but TTYD has a deeply nostalgic and emotional meaning to people, hence the vitriolic reaction. At worst, it's understandable.

But you are correct in that it's simple for people supporting this to see the reaction as exactly the boogeyman they're looking for, since it's exceptionally easy to portray the people against this as just being mad a character is transgender, even when that isn't the crux of the issue. That's observedly already happening.

 

[THE STRESS]

I'm tired of the remakes. Would've been completely fine with a straight port like they did with Sunshine in 3D All-Stars.
Apparently Vivian was always a freak tranny in the Japanese translation. Basically they went with the JP script, removed Toadsworth [EDIT: Looks like he's back in. He wasn't in the trailer in a part where he was supposed to be but that seems to have changed.], and made the text noises like Undertale. All these are downgrades. Could be a Miyamoto move since he's known for being a baby about his IPs (hence why Nintendo World doesn't have Kremlins or anything Rare-related and why stuff like that is absent in the modern games). They did the same with Mario RPG's script where they removed all references of the Mario Bros. being plumbers. People are just happy the game is playable again minus the obvious "just play it on Dolphin" route.

I always just used the partners as meat shields anyway. Flurrie was always first on the chopping block, but now? TTD.

 

[エボラちゃん]

NOOOO NOT MY HECKIN NINTODDLER GAMERINOOOOS!!!
IT'S SO OVER GUISE GOOBERGATE #4 NOW NOW NOOOOOOW!!!!
Seriously tho nothing will change, normies will keep consooming overpriced garbage like good little npcs.
"What? YoU cAnT aFfoRd ThIs PREMIUM™ PilE oF sHiT wiTh 6BilLiOn DlC oNlY foR $1400? JuSt GeT a JErb DOoD!"
You deserve to be judged and mocked if you still play games from studios that activily ruin your hobby for profit.

 

[Strangolapreti]

Same, though that's the version I played first so it left an impact. Other good remasters include Xenoblade DE, the Kingdom Hearts collections etc. Lots of RPG's, I'm realizing.

The best remakes are usually the ones that let you play the untouched original version, like Prince of persia the sands of time, Metroid zero mission and wonder boy the dragon trap.

 

[Vyse Inglebard]

removed Toadsworth

WHAT?!

 

[MetokurGroomedMe]

The latter, effectively.

Do you have a link? That was faster than I expected.

it's either double game speed or a patch that has nebulous, undefined 'issues', so just be wary.

link to the gbatemp 60fps patches

removed Toadsworth

they WHAT

 

[Rotollo 2]

I hope miyamoto somehow uses this game to say "see, this is why the mario mandate is a thing, they cant handle anything more than generic koopas, goombas, and toads. story in mario was a mistake." and then procides to crucify arlo.
I don't even want sticker star shit, but them doubling down would be the funniest option

 

[TheDarknessGrows]

No original soundtrack by default.

You got what you deserved.

 

[luigismanslave]

can't wait for the americanized one piece edit where they remove the stubble from the okamas and call them true and hinest trans kweenz

 

[THE STRESS]

WHAT?!

they WHAT

It's looking like they redacted that change, but he was out of the original trailer in a part he was supposed to be in. Had to look it up. Hope he's in.

No original soundtrack by default.

You got what you deserved.

But they still have the ability to toggle it? I'm more worried about the Undertale text sounds.

 

[TheDarknessGrows]

But they still have the ability to toggle it?

Yes and that is unacceptable.

 

[COME ON OUT YOU RAPIST]

This cultural ultimatum thing is getting old. We already have people who won't read books or watch movies made past a certain cut-off because it's guaranteed to be pozzed. Video games barely got a quarter of a century before this started happening to them as well.

 

[WULULULULU]

Remakes are gay. Seems people did not learn from the Demons' Souls shit in 2021. (like what is happening with the RE remakes and the Spice and Wolf remake of this year)

All this translation from trap to trans by the femboy/trans community (hell, femboys are no longer what they are, rather they are trans-acolytes if you will) is just one massive mental gymnastics to prove that they are not gay, as part of their culture war to erase the barrier between man and woman.

EDIT: If you are reading this, either beat the gay out of you or just accept being bisexual. Just confess and deal with it.

 

[MetokurGroomedMe]

I'm more worried about the Undertale text sounds.

just so we can be sure, you know there were text sound effects in the 2004 version right? example, ironically using the vivian scene from the original because it was the easiest to find

 

[X Prime]

The biggest red flag here is that they supposedly have changed the JP script to accommodate this.

That means the translation is technically accurate, but arguably the situation is worse.

 

[IDanceonTrannyGraves]

I genuinely hope that all the trannies who made this happen and are celebrating are killed so I can dance on their graves.

 

[JamusActimus]

Femboy and crossdresser genocide

 

[THE STRESS]

Yes and that is unacceptable.

I can get behind that tbh. It's not like the original's sound track needed fixing.

just so we can be sure, you know there were text sound effects in the 2004 version right? example, ironically using the vivian scene from the original because it was the easiest to find

Duh. They changed it to be voice grunts akin to Undertale. Original text sounded fine.

 

[FamicomGorby]

I guess it's not as bad as retconning transgenders in if they're just translating it the exact way the original Japanese game is and removing 4kidz edits.

Though while we remember 4kidz for replacing onigiri with sub sandwiches and guns with pointing, they did save American children from such horrors as James with tits.



Actually related to the thread, playing through the original Paper Mario now since I got an N64 with a flash cart and never beat it as a kid. Trying to look nothing up like it's the early 2000's and even drew my own map of Dry Dry Desert. Right now I'm at chapter 7 so just about done, top companions are Bombette and Lady Bow. Guess I'll have to emulate TTYD once I'm done or get a gamecube with an ODE.

 

[coldwave]

Basically they went with the JP script, removed Toadsworth, and made the text noises like Undertale. All these are downgrades.

Toadsworth is a secret boss. He's trapped in the sewers and has been taking super mushrooms to boost his "vigor" (virility) because he's old and lost to time (white western values of the nuclear family). You are forced to use Vivian for this boss fight and Mario has constant dizzy status.