Liz Fong-Jones / Elliot William Fong / @lizthegrey - 'Consent accident' enjoyer, ex-Google employee, nepotistic sex pest, Robert Z'Dar look-alike who wants authority over the Internet

[Temperance]

Something interesting happened with the Kiwi Farms wiki article yesterday:
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Kiwi_Farms&action=history

"Colonel Knight Rider" (who does not appear to be a troll/vandal) edited the KF page, and whatever he added was reverted a mere three minutes later. But not only reverted! See how that timestamp was stricken through? That apparently prevents anyone other than Wiki admins from seeing what the edit was.

"Primefac" was the person responsible for this.

I am an Oversighter, so if you need sensitive/personal/private/etc information suppressed please email me or the OS team.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Oversight

So this Primefac guy is some kind of super janny (even above the regular wiki admins?) who's literally tasked with "suppressing" information on Wikipedia. And he's watching the KF article like a hawk - as evidenced by nuking an edit only three minutes after it was made.

I'm guessing this was about adding Chris Chan's name to the KF article, since I think similar "suppression" has happened in the past. And there's been some recent discussion about adding his name in the KF talk page (due to the Keffals/CWC interview).

So while this probably doesn't have anything to do with Liz Fong-Jones, I feel it's worth noting. Especially the bit about wiki super jannies ("Oversighters") having the KF article in an iron grip. Very strange, Orwellian stuff.

I also noticed a familiar name in the recent KF article edits:
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Kiwi_Farms&action=history


Firefangledfeathers is yet another Wiki admin. I recognize his name, because he's the one who edited Alex Caraballo's wiki article to remove the information about him being humiliated in a Congressional hearing for calling for violence against the Supreme Court Justices on Twitter.
https://kiwifarms.st/threads/alejandra-caraballo-alex-caraballo-esqueer_.125795/post-18366942
^^ See above. But basically, the section below used to be in Caraballo's wiki article until Firefangledfeathers removed it last year.


Firefangledfeathers justified this by claiming the sources were "clickbait" and unreliable, but the sources were literally from CNN and Newsweek about the Congressional hearing. This wiki admin clearly just wanted to sweep it up for Caraballo.
Funnily, if you look at Caraballo's wiki article today, it uses a picture of him at the Congressional hearing and mentions him testifying there.

Makes him look very important if you don't know the context. How convenient that a wiki janny swept up the bit about Caraballo being humiliated in front of Congress.

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Anyway, my point is that there are multiple Wiki admins editing the KF article - recently too! They're pretty obviously biased, and quite possibly in league with Liz Fong-Jones.

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In actual Liz Fong-Jones news:

https://github.com/mastodon/mastodon/pull/30130
Mastodon is now "instrumented with" OpenTelemetry. Liz Fong-Jones probably has something to do with this since he reposted the news on LinkedIn, and as I mentioned in my last post, Liz is (or was) a "governance committee member" of OpenTelemetry.
Someone smarter than me should look into it to see if there's anything spooky. Could be perfectly fine, but I personally get a little concerned at the sound of "telemetry".

 

[Pig Cups]

everyone in this picture should be fedposted

Especially Heath Howe. His open boasting of his degeneracy under his real name, coupled with his abominable vocabulary, are his greatest transgressions. Fucker sounds like an interviewee from Louise Hogarth’s The Gift.

I was watching A Clockwork Orange last night and it really made me wonder if LFJ's parents ever called him "Billy" when he was a little boy.

That shot of Billy Boy always reminds me of Jonah Hill. Such a weird resemblance.

 

[Procrastinhater]

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When even the Bug Chasers who frequent fag bath houses, (including the notorious Club Z, that was arguably the epicenter for the GRIDS epidemic on the West Coast) and are therefore likely extremely used to and desensitized to smells like shit, blood, and rancid dried semen, complain about the putrid and rotten smell of the carpet you can only imagine what it smells like to someone not used to Slaanesh/Nurgle tier depravity.
More to the point, who the fuck would think a carpet would make suitable flooring at a faggot Bath House where the floor is guaranteed to be messed up with shit, blood, and semen, among other things?

 

[Fishmalk Observer]

When even the Bug Chasers who frequent fag bath houses, (including the notorious Club Z, that was arguably the epicenter for the GRIDS epidemic on the West Coast) and are therefore likely extremely used to and desensitized to smells like shit, blood, and rancid dried semen, complain about the putrid and rotten smell of the carpet you can only imagine what it smells like to someone not used to Slaanesh/Nurgle tier depravity.
More to the point, who the fuck would think a carpet would make suitable flooring at a faggot Bath House where the floor is guaranteed to be messed up with shit, blood, and semen, among other things?

Arguably so they don't slip and slide on the fluids and break their neck.

The worst part of all this to me is that i had the naive idea that bathhouse were actually baths ( a la roman baths), basically just nude pool and such and that they would be clean-ish outside of the obvious faggotry. This has soured my view of Freddie Mercury and other faggots.

 

[Procrastinhater]

Arguably so they don't slip and slide on the fluids and break their neck.

The worst part of all this to me is that i had the naive idea that bathhouse were actually baths ( a la roman baths), basically just nude pool and such and that they would be clean-ish outside of the obvious faggotry. This has soured my view of Freddie Mercury and other faggots.

There are gay dudes that aren't too different from regular people, that are just normal people who happen to be faggots, but the ones into the fucking LGBT "scene" and "Pride" parades and shit are the vilest degenerates.
I'll never forget Jim did an episode on Bug Chasers and he had an interview with a sick faggot that ran one, and it was just gloomy, grimey, with gross old faggots wandering about with their dicks out or in literal gimp suits, and they had different rooms that reminded me of fucking Clive Barkers Nightbreed where dude is getting shown around Midian and theres a new horror behind every door.
There was a room with fag porn on a black and white TV, one with this weird BDSM contraption, and then the faggot showing the guy around said "and down there is the fisting room, there were old rubbers laying on the floor, and the whole thing just made me realize some homo's aren't like normal people at all, some are fucking beyond disgusting.
The types that go to "bathhouses" should be burned at the stake, they're fucking sick and the reason the AIDS epidemic spread like wildfire.
Them donating blood meant a lot of people were infected through contaminated blood products too.

 

[Super-Chevy454]

Something interesting happened with the Kiwi Farms wiki article yesterday:
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Kiwi_Farms&action=history
...and whatever he added was reverted a mere three minutes later. But not only reverted! See how that timestamp was stricken through? That apparently prevents anyone other than Wiki admins from seeing what the edit was.

Too bad that info reverted wasn't uploaded elsewhere in another Wiki fork.

 

[Temperance]

I don't think Liz Fong-Jones is the type to go to hardcore gay bathhouses.
(The Club Z thing was about one of Liz's Eve Online guildmates repeatedly trying to invite a new guild member to hang out with him at Club Z. When the newbie later tried to talk to Liz about being sexually assaulted by a troon, Liz instead admonished the newbie for not going along with it.)

Liz seems to prefer more exclusive settings like private sex parties with other tech industry degenerates. It's probably one of the reasons why he enjoys travelling so often to attend tech conventions - for the after-parties. Remember, for example, that his "consent accident" took place in Zurich after a Google event/protest.
He has also previously mentioned being in "the SF kink/poly scene" and "an opt-in kink circle".

And of course, there was the time Liz Fong-Jones tried to #MeToo Richard DeVaul (a former Google executive). Funnily, Liz declined to report DeVaul to the police for the alleged rape, because - as Liz explains - it was some kind of "hypno" rape roleplay.

Spoiler: Sounds familiar...

That "risk-aware" bit immediately brings to mind Liz's wording of his Consent Accident.

More mentions of the "hypno" stuff, just for fun:

Spoiler

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erotic_hypnosis

https://kiwifarms.st/threads/liz-fong-jones-elliot-william-fong-lizthegrey.128419/post-13118848


https://archive.ph/KU8ry
(NEEHU = New England Erotic Hypnosis (Un)Conference)

Keep "Boston" in mind for later, btw:


(Nothing here is new info, but I'm slowly working on another post to expand on this topic.)

 

[ubunr9kpkk69c4ex]

I don't think Liz Fong-Jones is the type to go to hardcore gay bathhouses.

The stuff Liz is into is way more gay than gay bathhouses.

 

[teriyakiburns]

The worst part of all this to me is that i had the naive idea that bathhouse were actually baths ( a la roman baths), basically just nude pool and such and that they would be clean-ish outside of the obvious faggotry. This has soured my view of Freddie Mercury and other faggots.

Bathhouses range from these sort of seedy dives to legit, old-style turkish or greek baths, with pools and steam rooms and actual hygiene. And fucking. Whenever two or three gays are gathered together, there will almost definitely be fucking. IRC, the place Freeddie hung out in Munich was more toward the latter than the former, though it was also German, so who knows what depraved shit he got up to in there?

 

[CervixHammer]

That "risk-aware" bit immediately brings to mind Liz's wording of his Consent Accident

It's a reference to which Hogwarts house of BDSM he's in: Safe Sane and Consensual is the Jedi, Risk Aware Consensual Kink is the Sith:

There is no "safe" or "not safe" within RACK, only "safer" and "less safe."

 

[Sargon's wife's son]

The year is 2066 Liz Fong Jones has taken over the United states she's captured the terrorist leader of the Kiwi resistance movement Joshua Connor moon after facing a firing squad his last words so you will never be a woman after his execution the leader of America Liz Fong Jones immediately commits suicide

 

[AngryTreeRat]

It's a reference to which Hogwarts house of BDSM he's in: Safe Sane and Consensual is the Jedi, Risk Aware Consensual Kink is the Sith:

It's also worth noting that there is a world of difference between the mostly straight BDSM and the mostly gay BDSM community. The reason I say mostly in both of these cases is they both have a certain number of bisexuals hanging out in them which results in some hookups that don't fully fit into either box. You will also see people with a certain temperament "go to the other side" so to speak due to the cultural differences.

On the straight side it is mostly SSC, but even then the RACK leans towards taking as many safety precautions as you can for the risks you are taking. These are typically people who party tonight and show up at work tomorrow, and at worst complain about a bit of back pain when the back pain is because they were beaten bloody the night before. Exceptions exist among the straight community, but for the most part it's a lot less degenerate than what I will get into with the gays. You see a lot less lifestylists and a lot more focus on doing things right so nothing unfortunate happens. This is where you see a lot of vetting processes to make sure that no one is a fuckwit or just looking for victims. A lot of gay people who don't want to be total hedonists will move into the straight half of the community.

The fag side does not want to wake up the next morning. They are reckless because the entire LGBT lifestyle indulges in recklessness. They will not stay SSC long. If they are not the type to settle down with a single partner and just get a little bit kinky in bed, they will become RACK seemingly immediately. And frankly, they don't even care if both parties are aware. So long as one of them is aware, that's good enough to be "risk aware", right? The LGBT community in general encourages you to adopt a mindset of live fast and die young. You bring BDSM into it and it becomes so much worse. They don't just want to live fast and die young, they want to live now and die tomorrow. There are lifestylists everywhere, and absolutely no concern for mitigating any risks. The only vetting processes is to make sure that you aren't a snitch. Straight people only move into this side of the community if they are so far gone already that they will just do the drugs and be gay to get off. It's an absolute fucking horror show. Degeneracy is going on all cylinders. Nothing matters except for getting off and partying. There is no SSC, not really. Even the tamer members typically don't care about getting up and going to work the next day because they will probably just call in hungover or go into the office and sleep at their desk. If they do work it will be drugs are still in their system enough to let them work despite partying all night before.

Now I do want to point out that, in general, no matter which side you are on, RACK is usually a sign that somebody is just in a terrible place in their life. They are always the most unhappy people. The type of people who, if they are doing anything to keep going out of anything more than spite it is because they just don't want to leave a body for their friends and family to bury. It's like people who don't want to commit suicide simply because they don't want to be selfish. The cases where that isn't true is usually because you are dealing with the more experienced people who are escalating into edge play. The type of people who will for the most part still maintain the motto of SSC in 90% of situations.

I really can't stress enough how much a warning sign somebody advocating RACK is not just for the danger they pose to those around them, but for how bad of a place they are in their own lives. It is a sign of a truly and deeply troubled person. Not everyone into kink or BDSM is a red flag, but if they advocate RACK that absolutely is a massive warning sign.

 

[Harm]

Not a massive contribution, but RACK is also sometimes referred to as "Risk Aware Kink Exploration," or RAKE. It's for things like "knifeplay" or "breathplay" where you could very well cause serious damage, but you're such a brain broken piece of shit that you'll partake anyways.

It's especially grotesque when only one party involved is "at risk" during the "kink exploration."

 

[Temperance]

Keep "Boston" in mind for later, btw:


(Nothing here is new info, but I'm slowly working on another post to expand on this topic.)

Something jumped out at me on Liz's list of nonprofit organizations he has donated to: The Effing Foundation for Sex-Positivity

Let's take a quick look! https://www.effing.org/ [Archive]

Our Mission​

The Effing Foundation for Sex-Positivity is a 501(c)(3) not-for-profit organization whose mission is to reduce sexual shame and normalize conversations around human sexuality by fostering sex-positive art and education.

https://www.effing.org/what_we_do [Archive]

What We Do​

We have one project that has been running for over five years: teasecraft, a meetup group for sex/kink-positive makers, hackers, and crafters. Kit first began working in sex-positive activism by building (hilariously nerdy) sex toys, sharing their knowledge, and encouraging other people to do the same.
After experiencing a number of obstacles in Kit's own work, including having a new bank account shut down after only 30 minutes, the Effing Foundation grew out of Kit's desire to affect widespread social change beyond crafting shiny sex toys.
What are we up to right now?

• We run a grant program for sex-positive artistic and/or educational endeavors, and we've awarded grants to some amazing individuals, groups, and organizations.
• We can also put new funds towards more rounds of grants for sex-positive art and education!
• We need your donations to continue the work of the Foundation and make even more grants.

What else would we like to do? As we're able to grow the Foundation, we have a lot of ideas.

Basically: The Effing Foundation gives out small grants to racial/sexual minorities so they can produce kink-themed art/podcasts/workshops/whatever. But more interestingly, the Foundation also runs an IRL meetup group called Teasecraft.

https://teasecraft.com/ [Archive]

About​

teasecraft meetup groups are for folks interested in making their own sex toys / BDSM equipment / other kinky and fun things.

All are welcome, regardless of your (a)sexuality/orientation/gender or what materials you work with (electronics, wood, metal, leather, software, etc.).

The goals of teasecraft are to:

• Create local, sex/kink-positive spaces where people can have informal conversations about making and hacking technology
• Bring together makers and crafters who work with a diverse range of materials
• Give everyone an opportunity to see the fun things that their neighbors are building

teasecraft isn't a formal organization, but a loose collection of people hosting meetup groups in their own local areas.

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Find teasecraft near you​

Boston​

• Cambridge/Somerville/Greater Boston
• teasecraft-boston (email list)
• FetLife Group
• Upcoming Events
  • TBD, 7:30pm-9:30pm, Ask A Live Nude Model, at Artisan's Asylum (MPR 1), Somerville, MA. More info on Facebook (no login required) and FetLife (login required). Exact date TBD, we are on indefinite hiatus from in-person meetups.

Just one group? Hey, we've got to start somewhere. Speaking of which...

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Don't see a meetup near you? Organize one!​

Teasecraft only actually consists of one IRL group - dedicated to the Boston area.

• Remember that Liz Fong-Jones moved to Boston (and bought a house there) in 2009. I believe he remained there until late 2020, when he moved to Canada due to his dislike of Trump's Covid response.

Teasecraft-Boston also has an official FetLife Group. For those unaware, FetLife is "a social networking website that serves people interested in BDSM, fetishism, and kink." It has a reputation of being used for IRL hookups and sex parties.

• I think it's very likely that Liz Fong-Jones donated to the Effing Foundation because they were organizing these Teasecraft-Boston meetups, which probably included private hypno/kink/BDSM parties that Liz was attending.

The timeline matches up.
The Effing Foundation (and Teasecraft) currently appear to be defunct - or at least "hibernating" thanks to Covid. However, they were most active/successful in 2018-2020*. Liz was living in Boston until late 2020, but then Covid caused him to flee the US and also shuttered Teasecraft.
* See the Foundation's tax filings (the pdfs): https://projects.propublica.org/nonprofits/organizations/814822649

Quite a leap from 2018 to 2019/2020! But then, curiously, they stopped filing taxes after 2021. I have no proof, but I suspect Liz Fong-Jones might have been the one responsible for their increased funding. And then he probably stopped cutting them checks after he left Boston.
If you browse through Archive.org, you can see when Liz added the Effing Foundation to the list of nonprofits he funds. It happened sometime between July 2019 and May 2020. Of course, he could have been supporting them earlier; this is just when he bothered to mention it on his personal website.

Strangely, I can't find a single mention of Liz Fong-Jones on the Effing Foundation's website. I'm guessing he asked for anonymity for some reason, similarly to how Liz doesn't show on anywhere on the Tall Poppy site.

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Btw, the main person behind the Effing Foundation & Teasecraft is (or was) a genderspecial woman named Kit Stubbs.

Kit Stubbs, Ph.D. (Founder & Executive Director) they/them

Kit is a white non-binary/queer/femme maker and entrepreneur who's more interested in people than in technology. They have a Ph.D. in Robotics from Carnegie Mellon University, and their light-up dildo prototype "The Hammer" was named the #1 Geekiest Sex Toy by Cracked.com. Kit has spoken on gender, sexuality, and sex/tech at events across the US including Arisia, Burning Man, Dark Odyssey: Winter Fire, Hackers On Planet Earth (HOPE), Harvard Sex Week, the NELA Fetish Fair Fleamarket, and WisCon. They blog about technological empowerment for sexuality & pleasure at The Toymaker Project and co-organize teasecraft, a meetup group for sex/kink-positive crafters. Kit tweets occasionally as @vortacist.

On FetLife:

About​

I’m a maker, and I strive to learn how to build the kinds of toys that I want to play with. I enjoy learning from other geeks, makers and hackers (regardless of whether they identify as kinky) and from other sex-positive and kink-positive people (regardless of whether they identify as makers or geeks). I have a Ph.D. in robotics, but I’ve spent more time trying to understand people than I have building stuff.
I'm the Founder and Executive Director of a 501(c)(3) non-profit called the Effing Foundation for Sex-Positivity.
The Toymaker Project is where I blog about technological empowerment for sexuality (sex/tech/DIY). You can also find me on Twitter.
I identify as queer/pansexual and my gender is non-binary. I don't play well with dichotomies (kinky vs. vanilla) or trichotomies (dom vs. sub vs. switch). I'm rolequeer: I'm interested in scenes that screw with stereotypical dom and sub roles, but I also don't always do power exchange. I don't want to have to be just one thing at any given time...and what I want to do changes based on what the situation is.
If this means my play doesn't look like what's on kink.com (or the front page of FetLife) -- I couldn't care less.

Websites​

https://www.toymakerproject.com/
https://effing.org/

I bring this up because Kit Stubbs is a degenerate, nerdy genderspecial much like Liz Fong-Jones. She even has a PhD in Robotics and enjoys public speaking. The Teasecraft-Boston group was most likely made up of similar people (since Kit was running it, after all...), which would have appealed to Liz.

I went looking through the Teasecraft members on FetLife, but I sadly can't find Liz himself.
https://fetlife.com/groups/53282 (If anyone wants to go digging, FetLife requires you to give a phone number to register an account. I recommend using an SMS verification service - definitely don't give them your real number.)

^^ As you can see, Teasecraft was "suspended" in early 2020. I suspect Liz Fong-Jones might have eventually deleted his FetLife account. Such a shame!

Doing a search for "Liz Fong-Jones" and "lizthegrey" on FetLife actually returns some fragmentary results:

Spoiler: Groups

The Groups that turn up in a search for Lizthegrey, which might suggest he was in these groups before deleting his account:

• https://fetlife.com/search/groups?q=lizthegrey
• Hypno Kink of Metro Detroit, Boston Board Games, New England Erotic Hypnosis Unconference (NEEHU), The Munches of Greater Boston, Ticklish Women, The Other Fuckers, Boston MA BDSM, Boston Area Age Play Munch, Tickle Torture, Erotic Tickling, Tickling (Knismolagnia), Self-bondage.

 

[Temperance]

Confirmed:

Liz Fong-Jones had a FetLife account ("lizthegrey"), but he deactivated it.
https://fetlife.com/users/339861

(I can't actually view the pictures, writings, or anything else since his account is deactivated.)

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Some comments I was able to find from manual searching:

Spoiler: Big Image

Spoiler: Self-bondage on a public train

A board game night with Liz being advertised in an "Age Play" FetLife group. Kinda sus if you ask me:

Spoiler: SFW

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I was hoping for something a little more damning, but I assume anything like that was probably deleted before he deactivated. Either that, or he learned better OPSEC in later years (notice how all the comments above are pretty old - from 2010 to 2012).

 

[Billy Bob Dick]

Confirmed:

Liz Fong-Jones had a FetLife account ("lizthegrey"), but he deactivated it.
https://fetlife.com/users/339861
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(I can't actually view the pictures, writings, or anything else since his account is deactivated.)

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Some comments I was able to find from manual searching:

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Spoiler: Big Image

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Spoiler: Self-bondage on a public train

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A board game night with Liz being advertised in an "Age Play" FetLife group. Kinda sus if you ask me:

Spoiler: SFW

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I was hoping for something a little more damning, but I assume anything like that was probably deleted before he deactivated. Either that, or he learned better OPSEC in later years (notice how all the comments above are pretty old - from 2010 to 2012).

I accidentally read that "Upcoming rope event" description as

"Graydancer, a fun and fantastic nigger from Madison, Wisconsin"

and laughed my ass off

 

[Musashi's Son]

Liz Fong-Jones had a FetLife account ("lizthegrey"), but he deactivated it.
https://fetlife.com/users/339861

Very fucking interesting.

 

[Null]

Very fucking interesting.

Oh no, the Kiwis know about the Ageplay.

100% the tranny runs some sort of Discord bot that checks for updates to this thread in real time. He wrote a script in Go to resolve KiwiFlare. I assumed it was to help DDoS attack the site, but I think it's actually to scrape pages.

 

[troonshine]

Oh no, the Kiwis know about the Ageplay.

100% the tranny runs some sort of Discord bot that checks for updates to this thread in real time. He wrote a script in Go to resolve KiwiFlare. I assumed it was to help DDoS attack the site, but I think it's actually to scrape pages.

In this case it seems that the entire /users/ path has been excluded

a random path seems to not be excluded

 

[Rudolf's Friend]

Not a surprise at all. I cannot think of a single tranny who isn't into weird fetish shit and/or pedophilia.