Maori Kiwifruit Growers
kiwifarms.net
- Joined
- Dec 23, 2022
I love how in the 1960-1970s they were all enlightened and whatnot and they all decided to throw it all away for religious freaks.
2023 Israel-Palestine Armed Conflict
- Thread starter Enoch Emery
- Start date
- Joined
- Aug 12, 2023
The Shah was fucking around with the oil industry so the CIA gave him a bit of a push.
Being retards who know nothing about the region the US backed the wrong factions.
Fast forward to the future and nothing has changed.
- Joined
- Jun 23, 2015
Partisangirl is really fucking unhinged.
She is an assad supporter who live in Australia and spread so much lies about everything.
- Joined
- Sep 18, 2021
This recent generation of young adults cannot remember what happened roughly twenty years ago when Muslims were planting car bombs and murdering people because they published pictures of Muhammad in a newspaper. There were riots. People died. Because of a cartoon. Islamic culture is not compatible with Western culture, especially the left leaning culture that these people believe in.
It makes absolutely no sense for them to support the people who would gladly lop off their head for drawing a picture. I worry that soon this generation will support the idea that you should be punished for drawing him. Claim it to be offensive to the Saracens or something. The people supporting Muslims are useful idiots who will discarded once they outlive their usefulness.
Islamic culture has been at war with Western culture for nearly 1500 years. From Rashidun to the Ottomans there has always been conflict. There will never be peace in the mideast because Muslims will turn on each other without an outside threat.
It makes absolutely no sense for them to support the people who would gladly lop off their head for drawing a picture. I worry that soon this generation will support the idea that you should be punished for drawing him. Claim it to be offensive to the Saracens or something. The people supporting Muslims are useful idiots who will discarded once they outlive their usefulness.
Islamic culture has been at war with Western culture for nearly 1500 years. From Rashidun to the Ottomans there has always been conflict. There will never be peace in the mideast because Muslims will turn on each other without an outside threat.
- Joined
- Sep 10, 2017
Which is why its so important to support Hamas. If you think things are bad now, wait until kikes continue throwing rocks at the hornets nest and force Europe to accept 2 million of the refugees.
Elderly Homosexual Negro
kiwifarms.net
- Joined
- Apr 2, 2023
The audio sounds like it's straight out of an episode of NCIS or some shit.
Spoils of war was pretty common during the aftermath of sieges and urban battles during the medieval period. Those of noble blood or higher rank were to be spared for ransom, valuable loot was to be given to the generals or nobles leading the victorious party and everything else was left to the men as a reward basically. That included local women. Bear in mind though, this was throughout the middle ages and even then many leaders would specifically inform their men not to engage in looting and rape because it would cause civil unrest among the populace they might one day be ruling over.
These incidents have happened in 2023/2024, and have been filmed and uploaded by the perpetrators. My point is.. muslims are very fucking stupid.
one or fewer posts a day
kiwifarms.net
- Joined
- Apr 29, 2024
It's not specific to the medieval period. Using female captives as slaves or wives is essentially the norm in warfare across cultures throughout human history. As an interesting example, the Chinese character for slave, 奴, is said to have originally depicted a woman (女) being captured by a right hand (又). Anthropological evidence on warfare between small tribes of hunter gathers shows that capturing women is a major motivation for such conflicts, suggesting that taking female captives in warfare probably predates civilization itself.
But none of that excuses it. Rape, murder, theft, pedophilia and homosexuality have also probably been with the human race since the beginning.
Elderly Homosexual Negro
kiwifarms.net
- Joined
- Apr 2, 2023
Oh yeah, i know. I just brought up the middle ages as an example. It's happened since the dawn of man, and probably always will.
- Joined
- Jul 6, 2022
Because burying your head in the sand has always worked so well before and surely can never backfire or make things worse. And certainly once they get their way in Israel, they will surely get along just fine with western culture... as long as we continue with the next cycle/phase of 'appease and bury'
- Joined
- Feb 15, 2022
A portion of Biden's very expensive and very useless attempt to appease Hamas supporters in Michigan was demolished by rough seas and ended up on the beach in Ashdod:
- Joined
- Aug 13, 2022
What impact did this flotilla actually have? Has more aid made its way into Gaza as a result?
- Joined
- Jun 24, 2018
Hamas has announced the supposed capture and slaying of multiple IDF soldiers in the Jabalia region of Gaza in an apparent tunnel ambush. This announcement was supposedly televised in Gaza as @sentdefender on twitter has footage of Gazans cheering watching the tv. (I thought they didn't have internet or television service in Gaza) The IDF has denied any knowledge of soldiers being captured despite Hamas sharing a video allegedly to be from the ambush.
National Defense Advocate
kiwifarms.net
- Joined
- Mar 24, 2024
Random mutilated corpse? Generic infantry equipment? Why did they show 3 sets of gear but only one body? No papers or dog tags?
I'm pretty sure this one is a LARP.
- Joined
- Apr 20, 2022
barely 15% of daily needs, article was posted in AN. i think it even said they dont know where the aid is going after it hits the shore and makes it out the gate. as usual, palestinains mob the convoy.
Falcos_Commisar
kiwifarms.net
- Joined
- May 18, 2020
Agreed. Someone that fucking retarded needs to be fucking BANNED from the Internet and sold to some brothel in Syria.
She needs to be deported to fucking Syria immediately. Australia should parachute her into Aleppo
Fucking lol. The power broke, much like Biden's mental facilities
Yep, real ones would have shown faces dog tags, clean and up close images of IDF gear.
Battlefield2142EU
kiwifarms.net
- Joined
- Dec 15, 2022
https://archive.ph/QahDi/
Article summary: This week, Israel released an appalling video featuring five female Israeli soldiers taken captive at Nahal Oz military base on October 7. Fearful and bloody, the women beg for their lives while Hamas fighters mill around and alternately threaten to kill them and compliment their appearance. The captors call the women “sabaya,” which Israel translated as “women who can get pregnant.” Almost immediately, others disputed the translation and said sabaya referred merely to “female captives” and included no reference to their fertility. “The Arabic word sabaya doesn’t have sexual connotations,” the Al Jazeera journalist Laila Al-Arian wrote in a post on X, taking exception to a Washington Post article that said that it did. She said the Israeli translation was “playing on racist and orientalist tropes about Arabs and Muslims.”
These are real women and victims of ongoing war crimes, so it does seem excessively lurid to suggest, without direct evidence, that they have been raped in captivity for the past several months. (“Eight months,” the Israelis noted, allowing readers to do the gestational math. “Think of what that means for these young women.”) But to assert that sabaya is devoid of sexual connotation reflects ignorance, at best. The word is well attested in classical sources and refers to female captives; the choice of a classical term over a modern one implies a fondness for classical modes of war, which codified sexual violence at scale. Just as concubine and comfort woman carry the befoulments of their historic use, sabaya is straightforwardly associated with what we moderns call rape. Anyone who uses sabaya in modern Gaza or Raqqah can be assumed to have specific and disgusting reasons to want to revive it.
The word sabaya recently reappeared in the modern Arabic lexicon through the efforts of the Islamic State. Unsurprisingly, then, the scholars best equipped for this analysis are the ones who observed and cataloged how ISIS revived sabaya(and many other dormant classical and medieval terms). I refer here to Aymenn J. Al-Tamimi, recently of Swansea University, and to Cole Bunzel of the Hoover Institution, who have both commented on this controversy without sensationalism, except insofar as the potential of sexual enslavement is inherently sensational.
Under classical Islamic jurisprudence on the law of war, the possible fates of enemy captives are four: They can be killed, ransomed, enslaved, or freed. Those enslaved are then subject to the rules that govern slavery in Islam—which are extensive, and are nearly as irrelevant to the daily lives of most living Muslims as the rules concerning slavery in Judaism are to the lives of most Jews. I say “nearly” because Jews have not had a state that sought to regulate slavery for many centuries, but the last majority-Muslim states abolished slavery only in the second half of the 20th century, and the Islamic State enthusiastically resumed the practice in 2014.
In doing so, the Islamic State reaffirmed the privileges, and duties, of the slave owner. (Bunzel observes that the Islamic State cited scholars who used the term sabaya as if captured women were considered slaves by default, and the other fates were implicitly improbable.) The slave owner is responsible for the welfare of the slave, including her food and shelter. He is allowed to have sex with female slaves, but certain rules apply. He may not sell her off until he can confirm that she isn’t pregnant, and he has obligations to her and to their children, if any are born from their union. I cannot stress enough that such relationships—that is, having sex with someone you own—constitute rape in all modern interpretations of the word, and they are frowned upon whether they occur in the Levant, the Hejaz, or Monticello.
But in the premodern context, before the rights revolution that consecrated every person with individual, unalienable worth, sex slavery was unremarkable, and the principal concern was not whether to do it but what to do with the children. The Prophet Muhammad freed a slave after she bore him a child. The Jewish paterfamilias Abraham released his slave Hagar into the desert 14 years after she bore him Ishmael. But these are cases from antiquity, and modern folk see things differently. Frederick Douglass, in the opening of his autobiography, emphasized the inhumanity of American slave owners by noting the abhorrent results of those relationships: fathers hating, owning, abusing, and selling their own kin.
Sabaya is a term in part born of the need to distinguish captives potentially subject to these procreative regulations from those who would be less complicated to own. To translate it as “women who can get pregnant” is regrettably misleading. It makes explicit what the word connotes, namely that these captives fall under a legal category with possibilities distinct from those of their male counterparts. As Al-Tamimi observes, Hamas could just as easily have used a standard Arabic word for female war captives, asirat. This neutral word is used on Arabic Wikipedia, say, for Jessica Lynch, the American prisoner of war from the 2003 Iraq invasion. Instead Hamas used a term with a different history.
One could read too much into the choice of words. No one, to my knowledge, has suggested that Hamas is following the Islamic State by reviving sex slavery as a legal category. I know of no evidence that it has done so, and if it did, I would expect many of the group’s supporters, even those comfortable with its killing of concertgoers and old people, to denounce the group. More likely, a single group of Hamas members used the word in an especially heady moment, during which they wanted to degrade and humiliate their captives as much as possible. Thankfully, the captives appear unaware of the language being used around them. The language suggests that the fighters were open to raping the women, but it could also just be reprehensible talk, after an already coarsening day of mass killing.
Reading too much into the language seems, at this point, to be less of a danger than reading too little into it. As soon as the Israeli translation came out, it was assailed for its inaccuracy, when it was actually just gesturing clumsily at a real, though not easily summarized, historical background. What, if anything, should the translation have said? “Female captives” does not carry the appropriate resonance; “sex-slavery candidates” would err in the other direction and imply too much. Every translation loses something. Is there a word in English that conveys that one views the battered women in one’s control as potentially sexually available? I think probably not. I would be very careful before speaking up to defend the user of such a word.
- Joined
- Jul 6, 2022
The newest cope seems to be that Israel intentionally or not, "mistranslated" it or are putting "undo" attention on it. (see "malinformation") Unaware (or too retarded/unthinking to realize) that the Israeli government doesn't have a monopoly on the source or translating it.
Wow.. The comments in that article are fucking WILD! This is the audience these media companies coveted, the type of people they wanted! Now they get to live with it and a reputation keeping everyone else away.
Wow.. The comments in that article are fucking WILD! This is the audience these media companies coveted, the type of people they wanted! Now they get to live with it and a reputation keeping everyone else away.
Last edited:
- Joined
- Feb 15, 2022
Happy Lag BaOmer!
The IDF blew up Hamas's "general security headquarters" in Jabalia. Looks like it was already pretty wrecked, but no one's complaining:
The IDF blew up Hamas's "general security headquarters" in Jabalia. Looks like it was already pretty wrecked, but no one's complaining:
Last edited:
- Joined
- Sep 10, 2017
I'm not burying my head in the sand when Hamas kills and rapes Jews. I'm cheering them on, I support it completely.
- Joined
- Apr 20, 2022
and what will you do when they come for you,