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[Screamer_2]

Kathleen Kennedy basically wanted a female-centric new trilogy that was deliberately engineered to piss off male fans. She got it, then Disney compounded the mistake by basing their new theme park stuff solely on the ST, which is as popular as space herpes.

The vision of, what if we reboot everything to functionally be at the same place in the story as the end of ROTJ, but combining Han and Luke into one character who is female. A Jedi who flies around in the Millenium Falcon with Chewy by her side. Then she has a version of what was Luke's story rebuilding the Jedi.

That's the best they could think of. "We can't make sequels how they would have 20 years ago, lets just reboot it all with a chick. As people like Han and Luke. They need to tear them down to make the audience care for the new character. It doesn't work and shows they never really cared for Star Wars or the characters.

 

[Well Intentioned]

Roger Ebert himself publicly sang the praises of the Plinkett Star Wars reviews, so it isn't a stretch to think the powers-that-be at Disney were well aware of them. Those reviews took on a life of their own, and achieved cultural relevance beyond Mike and RLM.

I think people overestimate just how much cachet the Plinkett reviews had/have. Like the retard who said it was what got them to hire JJ Abrams.

However, I'm still struck by a teaser video that (I think) Simon Pegg 'hosted' (it might've been JJ and Pegg cameoed) during the production of the first sequel film where they made a biiiiiiiiiiiiig point of talking about 'real sets' and practical effects and etc etc etc.

I always thought that was some subtle marketing towards jaded Star Wars fans to get them hyped, as the Plinkett Reviews did make a big deal about green screens and the glut of CGI that was in the sequel films. Including Pegg was also a pretty shrewd move, too, as I'd argue his show, Spaced, was sort of the start of criticism of the sequel Star Wars. It was definitely him Tweeting about the Plinkett review that caused RLM to blow up in the first place.

Marketers were almost assuredly tuned in to the general attitudes diehard fans had. It also makes sense to try and capitalize on using them to hype up the film before the cat got out of the bag and we got to see Kennedy Wars for what it was (by and large trash with a few motes of interesting shit here and there.) They did it again with either the second or third film (I can't recall) by hyping up the guy who worked on the script for Empire Strikes Back.

I don't really care if new Star Wars had a female lead or whatever. Sarah Connor was cool. Ripley was cool. The Bride in Kill Bill was cool.

What sucked was just the way that they approached literally everything. It was like troon Star Wars: skinwalking around aping the thing it claims it is, while daring everyone around them to challenge them on their bullshit.

It's why the prequels are seen as 'not as bad', because it at least had the 'spirit' of Star Wars, even if they were overproduced CGI-fests telling a first-draft story.

 

[Monster Energy Drink]

I don't get why people claim the prequel hate is only due to RLM. Simon Pegg and Edgar Wright dedicated the entire second season of SPACED to shitting on Phantom Menace.

 

[Mikoyan]

Prequel hate started the moment people were in the theater and the HOLY SHIT MORE STAR WARS high wore off.

 

[Jobama]

All of this prequel revisionism from the past couple of years 100% stems from prequel memes getting big on Reddit.

 

[TVB]

Their first thing of note was American Psycho.
Later, the company was turned into a real studio thanks to the money from the Saw movies.
They got really big with Hunger Games and now, they have John Wick.

But then again, they did produce and distribute Disaster Movie. Even so, I still preferred most of Lionsgate's movies over A24's

Prequel hate started the moment people were in the theater and the HOLY SHIT MORE STAR WARS high wore off.

I'd say Star Wars hate even goes as far back as early-1997 when the Star Wars re-released and re-edited again (dubbed as the Special Edition) but with more major edits

 

[Mola Ram]

I'd say Star Wars hate even goes as far back as early-1997 when the Star Wars re-released and re-edited again (dubbed as the Special Edition) but with more major edits

Oh yeah. I vividly remember "Han Shot First."

 

[mlanguishi]

I'm surprised they did this one, and 2 HITB's so fast, interesting. And no Mike too.

 

[Mola Ram]

I'm surprised they did this one, and 2 HITB's so fast, interesting.

Usually happens when they really want to push a movie they like while it's still in theatres, and Furiosa is tanking. Kind of surprised they didn't mention that, actually.

 

[BrunoMattei]

Usually happens when they really want to push a movie they like while it's still in theatres, and Furiosa is tanking. Kind of surprised they didn't mention that, actually.

Probably filmed it Thursday and had it edited and ready by Friday before the news was out.

 

[Mola Ram]

Probably filmed it Thursday and had it edited and ready by Friday before the news was out.

Probably, although word of mouth has been bad for a while. It's getting a bad (perhaps unfair) rap because of no Max and a 90 lb. female lead, but audiences have been conditioned to expect trash under such conditions.

 

[BrunoMattei]

Probably, although word of mouth has been bad for a while. It's getting a bad (perhaps unfair) rap because of no Max and a 90 lb. female lead, but audiences have been conditioned to expect trash under such conditions.

There just wasn't any demand for this movie. I think that's the major point. The marketing was gutted by the SAG strikes but they could have pushed back the release date. The biggest problem with the marketing is that they didn't use the Mad Max name. The film should have been called: From the World of Mad Max: Furiosa. Or Mad Max Chronicles: Furiosa. Whatever. You need that Mad Max branding to get asses in seats because no one gives a fuck about a side character from a movie that came out almost ten years ago...

 

[urr13 account]

There just wasn't any demand for this movie. I think that's the major point. The marketing was gutted by the SAG strikes but they could have pushed back the release date. The biggest problem with the marketing is that they didn't use the Mad Max name. The film should have been called: From the World of Mad Max: Furiosa. Or Mad Max Chronicles: Furiosa. Whatever. You need that Mad Max branding to get asses in seats because no one gives a fuck about a side character from a movie that came out almost ten years ago...

Yes they did use the Mad Max name, they arbitrarily added mad max to the title: "A Mad Max Saga". And they shouldn't have even done that since Mad Max isn't in the fucking movie. What a braindead suggestion; "they should have misled audiences even more by making think the movie is about Mad Max".

What you are suggesting is borderline false advertising trick audiences into seeing a movie. If you cant sell your film to audiences on its own merits then just fuck off.

What they should have done is made an Old Man Max movie with Gibson before he dies.

 

[BrunoMattei]

Yes they did use the Mad Max name, they arbitrarily added mad max to the title: "A Mad Max Saga". And they shouldn't have even done that since Mad Max isn't in the fucking movie. What a braindead suggestion; "they should have misled audiences even more by making think the movie is about Mad Max".

What you are suggesting is borderline false advertising trick audiences into seeing a movie. If you cant sell your film to audiences on its own merits then just fuck off.

What they should have done is made an Old Man Max movie with Gibson before he dies.

I mean, the marketing was a shit show either way. I legit had never seen the "A Mad Max Saga" branding on most of the marketing materials. I'm looking at this from a marketing perspective and getting asses in seats and Hollywood lies all the time about what they present. It just happened over the weekend with Atlas which markets itself as a mecha action movie but in actuality it's a Sci-Fi chick flick.

I'd love to see Gibson return but Tom Hardy was a good choice.

 

[GAY DEAD MUPPET GANGBANG]

I'm surprised they did this one, and 2 HITB's so fast, interesting. And no Mike too.

Bunch of braindead shills.

They sucked off Feels Road, so of course they'd cream their britches over this utter trash. Fuck this movie.

Their channel has fallen so hard. Bunch of hyprocrites:

"Lol, look at these bad B-movies using day for night!"
*Watch Fury Road with some of the worst and most obvious day for night ever seen in a film*
"OMG, MOVIE OF THE CENtuRY!1!!1"

 

[BrunoMattei]

Bunch of braindead shills.

They sucked off Feels Road, so of course they'd cream their britches over this utter trash. Fuck this movie.

Their channel has fallen so hard. Bunch of hyprocrites:

"Lol, look at these bad B-movies using day for night!"
*Watch Fury Road with some of the worst and most obvious day for night ever seen in a film*
"OMG, MOVIE OF THE CENtuRY!1!!1"

Drink water.

 

[ZMOT]

All of this prequel revisionism from the past couple of years 100% stems from prequel memes getting big on Reddit.

not 100%, but it bears remembering who frequents reddit and publicly hates on a movie. people who enjoyed it (or consider it "ok") and normalfags don't got into lengthy discussions with star wars nerds.

 

[Introvertigo]

I'm surprised they did this one, and 2 HITB's so fast, interesting. And no Mike too.

Well, that was a much better video than the last two, and was a HITB as well. Though, I hope the next video is a BOTW, just sayin.

Usually happens when they really want to push a movie they like while it's still in theatres, and Furiosa is tanking. Kind of surprised they didn't mention that, actually.

Eh, it is doing okay, although funny enough:

https://www.variety.com/2024/film/box-office/box-office-shocker-furiosa-garfield-movie-tie-first-place-bleak-memorial-day-weekend-1236016762/

The fact, that it is currently tied with the animated Garfield movie is weird.

I'd love to see Gibson return but Tom Hardy was a good choice.

TBF, Gibson is not liked by Hollywood anymore, I mean he wasn't in the Chicken Run sequel you know. As for Tom, yeah definitely perfect for the 2015. Not sure Tom's version of Mad Max is the Cameo in this movie, but still.

Also side-note, the fact that two hyped movies of this year so far, take place in deserts (Dune Part 2 taking place on a desert planet, Furiosa taking place in an apocalypse desert) is pretty bizarre but you know it happens.

 

[I'm a Silly]

I already knew I had very different tastes from Rich.

 

[mandatorylurk]

Jays abject hatred of lore is the most disgusted I’ve seen from him in a long time. Even bringing it up for the end joke he hated saying it.