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Chase Oliver won the nomination for the Lolbertarian Party. This is what Chase Oliver believes:

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This is the best thing for Trump, as the lolberts chose a gay liberal as opposed to anyone who might have similar views to Orange Man. And the lolberts will go back to being an unserious joke.

The Libertarian Party is a joke because they refuse to learn and grow. They have had decades to build up a base to get into a position to push their policies, but they simply don't do it. They all just think they can somehow win POTUS and then just Executive Order both the Fed and 3-Letter agencies out of existence day one. Trump's existence and the fact he had to spend almost as much time fighting his "own" party shows why that is retarded.

If they were serious they would have focused more on local elections. During elections like 2020, 2012, 2004 and 1996 where they were against incumbent advantage they might have even chosen to not run a Presidential candidate at all and instead focus harder on local elections. Where was the Libertarian party on the 2022 midterms or the 2018 midterms? Where are the Libertarian senators, congressmen, mayors and such? Why do they not bother building up a base to actually try and have a chance?

Because they are full of losers and controlled opposition. The term Lolbertarian exists for a reason. They allow the clowns to take the movement over, and unlike the clowns on the opposite side of the political coin on the SocDem and commie wing they don't have the discipline to shape up to try and win things.
 
Yep, practically zero. Despite popular belief, I don't believe the majority of Elites want a fedcoin. Those that can't think ahead don't see much value in it, and those that can see ahead see the obvious risk of taking their one point of power, money, and making it so easily manipulated. A few might be keen on it thinking if they can manipulate it first, they can lock themselves down as unassailable gods, but the majority are using money to achieve other interests/ends and won't want to risk it being fucked around with at the level a fedcoin can.

Remember, the whole appeal to the gov of the fedcoin is they see when you're committing big financial crimes with it and even preemptively control and stop it, the guys backrooming piles of cash don't want to lose that option. All it does for the majority of the financially influential is put their one power point into someone elses control, they won't want that.
Rate me dumb but I don't see how fedcoin would change anything that happens now. Those with real power manipulate, lie, cheat, steal and murder indiscriminately. All a fedcoin would do is kick the ladder away from those a couple of rungs below the top elites. The same people who wet their noses in the trough, but are never allowed to gorge in it.
 
Rate me dumb but I don't see how fedcoin would change anything that happens now. Those with real power manipulate, lie, cheat, steal and murder indiscriminately. All a fedcoin would do is kick the ladder away from those a couple of rungs below the top elites. The same people who wet their noses in the trough, but are never allowed to gorge in it.
A fedcoin centralizes control and tracking of finances in a way that makes it nearly impossible to obfuscate transactions - Which means every elite at every level has to leave a papertrail of every dollar they manipulate and push about, without any ability to easily obfuscate it by shuffling cash, laundering through various institutions, etc. The whole fiscal picture is available at all times, nothing gets masked by cash-handling middleman businesses, vendor contracts etc.

Which means that any fiscal fuckery is easy and open to expose at any point, any time, by any interested party that wants to. Fedcoin gives whoever controls the government an ironclad gun to put to the back of the head of every Elite out there, that they can't reasonably avoid while still taking advantage of the system. But the advantages are also almost entirely moot for the vast majority of Elites - Unless your expecting to be the person in control of that power, its only a weapon for someone to use against you. As you point out, they already lie cheat and steal without a centralized crypto coin, they don't actually gain the ability to do anything new with it. Fedcoin is like Epsteins Flight Logs but without the degeneracy as a payoff - Someone can ruin you with them at any time.
 
The Libertarian Party is a joke because they refuse to learn and grow. They have had decades to build up a base to get into a position to push their policies, but they simply don't do it. They all just think they can somehow win POTUS and then just Executive Order both the Fed and 3-Letter agencies out of existence day one. Trump's existence and the fact he had to spend almost as much time fighting his "own" party shows why that is retarded.

If they were serious they would have focused more on local elections. During elections like 2020, 2012, 2004 and 1996 where they were against incumbent advantage they might have even chosen to not run a Presidential candidate at all and instead focus harder on local elections. Where was the Libertarian party on the 2022 midterms or the 2018 midterms? Where are the Libertarian senators, congressmen, mayors and such? Why do they not bother building up a base to actually try and have a chance?

Because they are full of losers and controlled opposition. The term Lolbertarian exists for a reason. They allow the clowns to take the movement over, and unlike the clowns on the opposite side of the political coin on the SocDem and commie wing they don't have the discipline to shape up to try and win things.
They have to be actual opposition to be worth controlling.
 
Chase Oliver won the nomination for the Lolbertarian Party. This is what Chase Oliver believes:

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This is the best thing for Trump, as the lolberts chose a gay liberal as opposed to anyone who might have similar views to Orange Man. And the lolberts will go back to being an unserious joke.
The Redditfication of the Libertarian Party is complete.
 
IANAL, but isn't this like saying you could be found guilty of possession of a firearm by a prohibited person without having to prove they are in fact a prohibited person (to draw on recent crackets as an example)?
At a superficial level you could see the logic by not requiring agreement on the associated crime. A mindset of "Well, I think he falsified the records to avoid tax, I think he did it to gain political advantage, but it doesn't matter because we both agree that he falsified records, so we find him guilty."

But break it down and it becomes dubious. Juror X believes by means of falsifying records Trump avoided taxes. Juror Y believes that by means of falsifying records Trump violated federal law. But X thinks Y wrong and Y thinks X wrong, and we call this unanimous?

I'm not sure exactly how this works - like if there was a murder and jurors felt the motives of the killer were one thing or another then it wouldn't invalidate that both agree he was found with the bloody knife in his hand standing over the body crying "I'm glad you're dead". But with this I'm not sure that the reason isn't part of the crime? I.e. without the actual predicate crime, did he actually commit any crime? If they can't agree on a predicate crime, then they're not really agreeing on the same crime. Lawyer want to comment?
 
IANAL, but isn't this like saying you could be found guilty of possession of a firearm by a prohibited person without having to prove they are in fact a prohibited person (to draw on recent crackets as an example)?
Yes. And you can see why it's nonsensical. They are going around the requirement of unanimity to convict, by forgoing that requirement for prerequisite factors.
 
The Libertarian Party is a joke because they refuse to learn and grow. They have had decades to build up a base to get into a position to push their policies, but they simply don't do it. They all just think they can somehow win POTUS and then just Executive Order both the Fed and 3-Letter agencies out of existence day one. Trump's existence and the fact he had to spend almost as much time fighting his "own" party shows why that is retarded.

If they were serious they would have focused more on local elections. During elections like 2020, 2012, 2004 and 1996 where they were against incumbent advantage they might have even chosen to not run a Presidential candidate at all and instead focus harder on local elections. Where was the Libertarian party on the 2022 midterms or the 2018 midterms? Where are the Libertarian senators, congressmen, mayors and such? Why do they not bother building up a base to actually try and have a chance?

Because they are full of losers and controlled opposition. The term Lolbertarian exists for a reason. They allow the clowns to take the movement over, and unlike the clowns on the opposite side of the political coin on the SocDem and commie wing they don't have the discipline to shape up to try and win things.
It was making strides and then it was infiltrated and commandeered by complete fucking lunatics.
 
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Chase Oliver won the nomination for the Lolbertarian Party. This is what Chase Oliver believes:

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This is the best thing for Trump, as the lolberts chose a gay liberal as opposed to anyone who might have similar views to Orange Man. And the lolberts will go back to being an unserious joke.

If anything, Trump shining a spotlight on how retarded the lolberts are will dissuade anyone from thinking they're a Ron Paul-inspired dissident party. The LP is the party of getting high and teaching kids how to have buttsex.
 
Trump was booed, insulted the crowd for being 3% losers, and lost the vote, but at the end of it all Trump got what he wanted, the right wing libertarian vote. Nothing is more funny than a twist Trump victory.

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The funny thing is how Twattards are mocking Drumpfler for losing the Lolbertarian Party nomination.

Imagine thinking the LP is relevant post Tea Party.
 
The issue with the Libertarian party, in my eyes, is that they haven’t accepted that reality dictates policy sometimes. Ideologically I align somewhat closer to the Libertarian party… in theory, at any rate, since I want the government to generally keep the fuck out of most shit.

The problem is that there are unfortunately reasons the government has to interfere in some things, since without ages of consent or policing of various substances, people can’t always be trusted to do the right thing. That’s an unfortunate truth I’ve had to accept, but while I think that some lolberts are snakes in the grass, pushing for decriminalizing shit to live out their creepy or depraved fantasies… there’s also plenty that just can’t accept that having the government stay entirely out of ‘personal business’ just won’t go well. It’s sad to see, but hopefully the latter people will be disquieted enough by the Libertarian candidate to come to terms with the truth of the situation.

… yeah, I’m not holding my breath on that one either, lol.
 
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This is the best thing for Trump, as the lolberts chose a gay liberal as opposed to anyone who might have similar views to Orange Man. And the lolberts will go back to being an unserious joke.
I know of this Dave Smith guy from the O&A world. He's a jew that tries to be a tuff political head. Clearly hes as big of a pussy as all the other people on the cusp of being internet famous. He's taking the easy way out instead of standing his ground.

Unless the jews really want to push the gay sex on Americans even harder.


Really makes you think...
 
there are unfortunately reasons the government has to interfere in some things, since without ages of consent or policing of various substances, people can’t always be trusted to do the right thing.
This is the mindset of a "for your own good" tyrant.

The reason for governance of the nature you describe is to prevent selfish behavior from harming the rest of the public.
The drug laws weren't enforceable unless the addicts were shitting up the public and making themselves a nuisance, at which point probable cause turns up the drugs as the reason why, and then sentencing enhancements kick in for very good reason.

Call me a pedant if you want for going in hard on this, but the reasons for laws matter if you want to have effective, functional, and most importantly minarchist government.

Lolberts are right about killing yourself with opiates, but the moment that impacts someone else like your kids or neighbors, the shithammer needs to come down hard (and for me, I'm fine with east asian type death penalties for drug related offenses once they cross that line. After all, that's the final destination for these fucking addicts anyway. Use lethal-dose opiates as the means of execution. They'll enjoy every minute they're still awake.)
 
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