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I certainly won’t be. This shitshow has just begun to get good. Even if he pleas it down, his allocution/statement of facts is going to be magnificenteveryone is going to be disappointed
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I certainly won’t be. This shitshow has just begun to get good. Even if he pleas it down, his allocution/statement of facts is going to be magnificenteveryone is going to be disappointed
The affidavit attached to the warrant will be from a cop, not the pastor.That's what I was trying to say, I just don't know your fancy lawyer words like "affidavit."
If the lab weight is below 25 grams, this is a first time offender misdemeanor drug charge, that's a candidate for the pretrial diversion program.I certainly won’t be. This shitshow has just begun to get good. Even if he pleas it down, his allocution/statement of facts is going to be magnificent
I won't be disappointed. You have to care about an outcome either way to be disappointed.everyone is going to be disappointed
Right. The 1A argument is peripheral at best, and wrong so far in this situation. There is no 1A argument absent the pastor's saying he didn't want to report but had to, and there's no controlling case stating pastor reports are unconstitutional. The whole 1A garbage is irrelevant, a red herring borne from speculation at best. Throwing shit at the wall.No. As the grifter lawyers have repeatedly said, the initial report doesn't matter, the affidavit attached to the warrant request is what controls the legality of the search, and nobody has that yet. Furthermore even if you took a swing at the report on 1st amendment grounds, it would probably have to be the kid, or the pastor.
Unrelated. But obviously, if the drug amount is retested and shows as < 25 g, the charge has to change.Alogs don't understand a first year law "issue spotting"/"Issue identification" exercise, and everyone is going to be disappointed when the lab weight of the dope comes back slightly under 25 grams, and the dope charge is reduced.
A point I didn’t consider. To balance it I could imagine the incredible shitshow his “comeback” stream would be. So far I’m not seeing a path where I’m not entertained.The affidavit attached to the warrant will be from a cop, not the pastor.
If the lab weight is below 25 grams, this is a first time offender misdemeanor drug charge, that's a candidate for the pretrial diversion program.
He'll have to fail that first.
In Hennepin County - not Kandiyohi, but a standard-setter - formal pretrial diversion is available for 4th and 5th degree charges. If the coke amount is > 10g, it's 3rd degree. Now, of course, deals can be made, but if Kandiyohi is somewhat aligned to Hennepin, a 3rd degree charge is not typically immediately eligible for diversion.The affidavit attached to the warrant will be from a cop, not the pastor.
If the lab weight is below 25 grams, this is a first time offender misdemeanor drug charge, that's a candidate for the pretrial diversion program.
He'll have to fail that first.
The "supervision appropriate to the child's age" part stands out to me. Once the nanny left, who was supervising the children the majority of the time, and what degree of supervision was happening?Not applicable to his wife because she was charged with starving (or depriving it of other essential needs) the kid and willfully permitting physical and sexual abuse
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That's up for debate in some federal circuits. They made the smell of weed illegal for PC car searches, maybe not the visible white powder since that's something a picture could prove.If a cop pulls you over while you have white powder on your nose and are speaking a mile a minute.
Barnes logic is for pol plebs interested in the incoming election, not for someone fighting a court case. You don't want to be fighting the law on a ruling that could be unconstitutional because of a recent new ruling. Just like the 1A argument. It's retarded because that is a hail-mary shot all the way up to SCOTUS (so, state appeals, state supreme, fed circuit, fed appeals, fed en banc, SCOTUS) instead of having the trial court rule for you. Branca is right that appeals are for losers.Well, absolutely, the 2A bullshit is exactly bullshit, which is why I berated Barnes.
Yeah neither do I. I took a baseball bat to the face in a ball game as a kiddo with video proof (this was before smartphones) and CPS still harassed my parents for months despite the coach (of both teams), the umpire, and the parents saying it was from getting a fucking baseball bat to the face. "But that injury is consistent with physical abuse !!!"I have 0 faith in the mandatory reporter system anywhere.
I feel like if, if, the charging document is accurate, it must be something related to the female children that Nick couldn't do. Otherwise why would only Kayla catch it instead of both of them? Because Nick stays at home half the fucking time and works what, 21:00-3:00? He's not working a full 12hr graveyard shift.what else did she ignore and how does that relate to "the continuing physical or sexual abuse of a child"?
Maybe I'm particularly lucky, but I was once in a chat room where it turned out something like over half of the people there were mandatory reporters and one of the participants admitted hitting up a 13 year old who was also on the channel (we did not know and would not have permitted her to be there).I have made mandated reporter calls, it has never resulted in a search warrant. Even with horrifying stuff like kids with broken bones, kids being horribly abused, stuff that should only exist in nightmares.
If you had exigent circumstances, but waiting 6 days to act blows any exigent circumstance argument out of the water...
This isn't about 'following the conversation,' these are terms that have legal meanings you are not using correctly.What investigation? The poster I replied to said all they needed was the report, not an investigation. My point was that there needed to be more than just a report to justify a search warrant.
You should follow the conversation before replying.
Are you an absolute fucking idiot? The person you're responding to was talking about exigent circumstances in which a warrant is not necessary, as well as the obvious fact that the cops who showed up to Nick's shithole of a house actually did have a warrant.What investigation? The poster I replied to said all they needed was the report, not an investigation. My point was that there needed to be more than just a report to justify a search warrant.
You should follow the conversation before replying.
As the initial report was made to the police, would the police have been the ones who contacted CPS?I suspect that based upon the original report on the 16th, a Child Protective Services case was opened. Once the case was opened, a case worker attempted to contact Balldo and Our Wife via telephone to schedule an interview. During this time frame, CPS began conducting an investigation, which likely involved interviews with outside witnesses--likely people from the church and home school co-op. Maybe Aaron the Simp
That seems the most likely scenario. We don't know the contents of the report--just the identity of the reporter. But given the delay in getting a warrant (and a search warrant, not an arrest warrant), it seems to have been "important, but not an emergency" sort of report.As the initial report was made to the police, would the police have been the ones who contacted CPS?
It isn't out of the ballpark that she molested one of the kids, it's rare but it happens.The "supervision appropriate to the child's age" part stands out to me. Once the nanny left, who was supervising the children the majority of the time, and what degree of supervision was happening?
Kayla's charges only diverged from Nick's after the police had been inside the house and observed the clutter and filth. Kids are certainly capable of helping to tidy up and loading and unloading a dishwasher but it reads like even that wasn't happening. If Kayla did nothing about the observable mess, what else did she ignore and how does that relate to "the continuing physical or sexual abuse of a child"?
Nick's charges have not been updated to include physical or sexual abuse, which seems a little odd if it's his behaviour Kayla is deemed to have knowingly permitted.
thats not the allegation at the moment, the allegation is that she knowingly permitted physical or sexual abuseIt isn't out of the ballpark that she molested one of the kids, it's rare but it happens.
Social workers here won't go to a residence to investigate without the police if there are known or suspected to be weapons there.An additional possibility is that a CPS caller got hold of Balldo and he went full raging Cokestream Nick on the social worker who wanted to set up a meeting. Imagine a coked cup Balldo getting a call from a social worker wanting to talk about how he and Our Wife are taking care of the kids. I am leaning toward the belief that that call, which likely included a couple references to "Muh Second Amendment Rights" is the real basis for the search warrant.
I think everyone has gone back and forth on this forever, but I don't see how that can be the case if they're not charging Nick with the abuse. It seems like either someone other than the three arrested adults is being alleged to have abused a kid physically or sexually and that she knew about it and Nick didn't, or her charge got fat fingered.thats not the allegation at the moment, the allegation is that she knowingly permitted physical or sexual abuse
that might just be allowing Nick to run wild tbh