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RON PAUL’S LIBERTARIAN PARTY IS DEAD​

Cartoon published 05/28/2024

President Trump went into hostile territory and spoke to the crowd at the Libertarian Party event. Trump is the first President in 76 years that did not enter a new war. Trump is anti-war and the Libertarians booed him.

What happened to the Libertarian party? They represent liberals more than liberty.

They have degenerated into another flavor of the Democrat party. Their presidential nominees have leaned further and further toward the left and now their delegates have elected Chase Oliver, a gay man from Georgia, as their candidate. The guy being gay doesn’t disqualify him—it’s the terrible Marxist policies that he supports.

Looks like the Libertarians are addicted to losing. Bigly. They really must love their 3 %.

• Chase Oliver supported mask and vaccine mandates during the plannedemic. He was a big Black Lives Matter cheerleader.

• Chase cheered when Trump was banned from Twitter. I thought Libertarians were for freedom of speech?

• Chase marched in Pride events and carried the LGBTQXYZ flag proudly.

• Libertarians booed the most anti-war President in years at their convention.

Chase Oliver has chased away conservative libertarians. This isn’t your father’s Libertarian Party.

We asked for a Ron Paul and they gave us Ru Paul!


The Libertarians won’t be winning over any more converts soon. They are just a different version of Democrat party and a bad one at that.

—The GrrrTeam
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Breadbassket said:
If there is anything to be learned from the collapse of the USSR, it is if you have an authoritarian government do not implement political liberalization and economic reform that may or may not backfire at the same time. Compare and contrast Gorbachev's USSR with Xiaoping's PRC. The Soviet Union had plenty of other issues besides that that usually had to do with its Communist nature of course but the changes to the country from the top down put the nail in the coffin.
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The double standards is why China's still communist and why Russia isn't.

No one gave a fuck about lifting a finger to help the protestors in China that got slaughtered at Tiananmen Square. But if Russia and the Eastern Block started slaughtering protesters that same year, then hell would break loose. And the Russians and their puppet governments (save for Romania, where the people said "fuck it" and just straight up killed the mother fuckers in charge) opted to cede power than risk a prolonged and bloody as fuck civil war.
 
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Random Internet Person said:
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From Article said:
Oliver — who is aligned with a more traditionalist faction of the Libertarian Party, the Classical Liberal Caucus — clinched the nomination after almost 8 hours and seven rounds of voting. He defeated a more hard-line Mises Caucus candidate by less than 1 percent in the penultimate round of voting, before delegates were asked to choose between Oliver and no candidate.
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It's been a minute since I gave an honest fuck about LP shit but the tl;dr is it's been progressives vs ancaps for years now and the ancaps lost the nom by a hair. For the record I despise both but one is clearly leagues better than the other, imo, and they aren't exactly a minority.

I can imagine a number of legitimate reasons for both sides to boo Trump though foremost of which is the sheer amount of government spending he did during his term and him cucking the fuck out on his government shutdown.
 
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Holy shit, Brandon really made Gonzalez squirm. He should run again next time.
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Doesn't matter. He lost. Anything less than Total RINO Extinction is unacceptable.

If the GOP voter base can't primary a white-flag-waving pussy like Gonzales, then there's no hope for them. As far as I'm concerned, TX23 can get ripped to shreds by their invader pets.

Spare me this gay "we'll get 'em next time!" cope. If the Right isn't gonna elect leaders with spines, then they might as well just bend over and accept their permanent buttsex slave status.
 
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AnotherPleb said:
They're so close to their victory that they don't care if the mask slips.

I've already said it earlier in the thread but they're banking everything on this. They already have a few key RINOs prepped to help pass the bill to strip Trump of his SS detail (and it won't matter to them if they don't get reelected as they despise Trump and have been promised cushy jobs for betraying their voter base). After that? It doesn't matter if the verdict gets overturned as they plan to Epstein him as fast as they can.

There's one massive problem though: there's a lot of moving parts here. The people planning this don't think systems move outside of their plans and that's a dangerous mistake to make; a dead Trump at this point no matter what will be seen as a glowop by his base and at that point all bets are off.
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But even the most dire hard anti-trump types know that straight up murdering Trump is opening Pandora's Box to some awful wetworks and carnage, the type that hasn't been seen in living memory.

The only way to kill Trump to get away with it would be to find some absolutely 100% foolproof way to blame ISIS or Hamas or some middle eastern terror group and make damn fucking sure you kill a couple of your own guys/innocent people as collatoral damage to hammer home the illusion that death kult worshipping sand niggers did the deed and redirect ALL fucking energy towards avenging Trump and turning the Middle East into radioactive glass, so that you make everyone think that the government avenged Trump by turning the middle east into a radioactive necropolis where no living thing can live.

You Epstein Trump and expect (insert high casualty fedposting scenarios) and pretty much expect Civil War to kick off in a year max.
 
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Wimbydong said:
Dade Phelan, Texas Speaker of the House who impeached Paxton, barely hangs onto his seat.
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GunTuber did really well for a freshman campaign but ultimately fell short as well.
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Bah and humbug.
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I refuse to believe that so many controversial races legitimately always end up with the bad guys winning by a scant 2%
 
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MirrorNoir said:
The only way to kill Trump to get away with it would be to find some absolutely 100% foolproof way to blame ISIS or Hamas or some middle eastern terror group and make damn fucking sure you kill a couple of your own guys/innocent people as collatoral damage to hammer home the illusion that death kult worshipping sand niggers did the deed and redirect ALL fucking energy towards avenging Trump and turning the Middle East into radioactive glass, so that you make everyone think that the government avenged Trump by turning the middle east into a radioactive necropolis where no living thing can live
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Honestly Trump should stage a situation where people spend the weekend thinking he was murdered only for it to be revealed on Monday to be an accident/misunderstanding and he's ok and give the Democrats a taste of what's to come if they go through.
 
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Wimbydong said:
Dade Phelan, Texas Speaker of the House who impeached Paxton, barely hangs onto his seat.
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GunTuber did really well for a freshman campaign but ultimately fell short as well.
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Bah and humbug.
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And now Gonzales has a noose. A mere 3% difference, with a man who has only been in his district for 4 years, with a 10-1 money advantage.

All Brandon has to do is remain visible in his community and harp on anything negative Gonzalez does. Meaning that Gonzalez now has to walk a tightrope because if he does anything that sticks in recent memory then bam, there is Brandon.
 
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Betonhaus said:
I refuse to believe that so many controversial races legitimately always end up with the bad guys winning by a scant 2%
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Thats standard procedure to keep people engaged. The bad guys always win by just the thiniest margin so you try harder next time.
Even if the party pushing change has majority, they will have just enough defectors to do nothing.
 
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Gehenna said:
And now Gonzales has a noose. A mere 3% difference, with a man who has only been in his district for 4 years, with a 10-1 money advantage.

All Brandon has to do is remain visible in his community and harp on anything negative Gonzalez does. Meaning that Gonzalez now has to walk a tightrope because if he does anything that sticks in recent memory then bam, there is Brandon.
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Where the fuck are you getting this idea that there will be a "next time"?

The stakes this year are total victory or total extinction. There is no middle ground. Only a smoothbrained mong or a lying schemer would say otherwise.
 
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Meat Target said:
Where the fuck are you getting this idea that there will be a "next time"?

The stakes this year are total victory or total extinction. There is no middle ground. Only a smoothbrained mong or a lying schemer would say otherwise.
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This isn't the presidential race. This is a run off to some state elections. This one is hardly a nail in the coffin for anything.

Now, if Trump loses? Yah, I'll happily join the doom train but this? This one is more or less politics as usual with the exception of Brandon being an outsider candidate who got within spitting range of the Uniparty stooge.

Or, in short, if Trump wins there very well could be a "Next time".
 
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