Cultcow Brad Watson / Richard Bradshaw Watson / Brad Watson_Miami - Jesus & Albert Einstein reincarnated, discoverer of GOD=7_4 Theory

[RomanesEuntDomus]

Well, Brad, we've been telling you for a while that your sources aren't very scholarly. Glad you've finally noticed.

Michio Kaku, for all the good things he does, seems to be still coming from a rather "pop-sciencey" field.
The shows with him usually manage to get their points across to laymen watchers, but there's still a problem with oversimplification (especially when it's something as complicated as super massive black holes - things that weren't even confirmed till rather recently) and another important aspect is an attitude of sensationalism. Such shows oftentimes are prone to show things that are "interesting" or "weird" and might overstate certain things or disregard the more mundane aspects.

Still, a good way to get a bit of knowledge as a layman, but it's not scientifically important in the grand scheme of things.

It's actually remarkable that society managed to arrest the "decline" of intellectual activity so well. Without the church and nobility stepping in to fill the void (imperfectly, granted) left by the Roman Empire, Europe could have reverted back to the stone ages, rather than merely returning to a feudal state with a barter system. The people in the Middle Ages did a great deal with very little.

Yeah, the middle ages lacked a lot of the comfortable and convenient things of ancient times such as infrastucture and the prosperity that comes with a huge empire that stretches from coast to coast... yet still they managed to create a few surprising things, different kinds of mills or the method of printing books with moveable letters.

Sure, the Romans had marvelous wonders such as underfloor heating systems or heated pools. It's amazing and astonishing (In fact, I visited a half-reconstructed roman villa this summer), and it's things like these that just show you how wise these people have been, how smart and creative... that's also the reason why I loathe "ancient aliens" with a passion.
The middle ages can't really boost with similar stuff, but they excelled in other (sometimes more down-to-earth) ways. Gothic cathedrals, farming technology, metallurgy - cultural things such as knightly epics...

It's just hard to compare.
Edit: as much as I enjoy the topic, this is kinda getting outta hand, so I'll leave it at that fftopic:

 

[Brad Watson_Miami]

Leonardo Fibonacci c. 1200 introduced Hindu-Arabic numerals to Europe. This is primarily what ended the Medieval Age/Middle Ages/Dark Ages and ushered in the Renaissance.

http://wikipedia.org/wiki/Leonardo_Fibonacci
http://wikipedia.org/wiki/Hindu-Arabic_numerals
http://wikipedia.org/wiki/Renaissance

Besides these Hindu-Arabic numerals replacing Roman numerals (which didn't happen overnight), Fibonacci enacted a great new system of counting that revolutionized math and introduced other non-Christian Hindu-Arabic math & science to Europe. This circumvented the Vatican's control and thus consciously and subconsciously promoted liberties taken by others, thus bringing an end to the 'Dark Ages' and giving birth to the Renaissance.

"He snatched lightning from the heavens and scepters from tyrants" was said about Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790). Leonardo Fibonacci did nothing less.

 

[ChurchOfGodBear]

Leonardo Fibonacci c. 1200 introduced Hindu-Arabic numerals to Europe. This is primarily what ended the Medieval Age/Middle Ages/Dark Ages and ushered in the Renaissance.

No, not even close, dear. Please try to keep up.

 

[YankeeTrader]

It's interesting that he quotes Turgot.

Another quote would apply to our subject as well "Every soil does not produce every material."

 

[Overchek]

Leonardo Fibonacci c. 1200 introduced Hindu-Arabic numerals to Europe. This is primarily what ended the Medieval Age/Middle Ages/Dark Ages and ushered in the Renaissance.

http://wikipedia.org/wiki/Leonardo_Fibonacci
http://wikipedia.org/wiki/Hindu-Arabic_numerals
http://wikipedia.org/wiki/Renaissance

Besides these Hindu-Arabic numerals replacing Roman numerals (which didn't happen overnight), Fibonacci enacted a great new system of counting that revolutionized math and introduced other non-Christian Hindu-Arabic math & science to Europe. This circumvented the Vatican's control and thus consciously and subconsciously promoted liberties taken by others, thus bringing an end to the 'Dark Ages' and giving birth to the Renaissance.

"He snatched lightning from the heavens and scepters from tyrants" was said about Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790). Leonardo Fibonacci did nothing less.

Did you even read the links you posted.


That's a rhetorical question because of course you didn't.

 

[Brad Watson_Miami]

@RomanesEuntDomus,

Of course you're an "attacker". Sorry to leave you out of 'the group'. I think I just looked at the last 7 evil posters to call. Cherry-picking produces mistakes.

Ok, you've added to the Leonardo Fibonacci and the birth of the Renaissance discussion and I see your take on the quotes from Black Holes, How The Universe Works.

 

[RomanesEuntDomus]

This is primarily what ended the Medieval Age/Middle Ages/Dark Ages and ushered in the Renaissance.

And

This circumvented the Vatican's control and thus consciously and subconsciously promoted liberties taken by others, thus bringing an end to the 'Dark Ages' and giving birth to the Renaissance.

As stated before, neither of these statemens is true.
What "circumferented the Vatican's control" is the moving-letter type book press, since it allowed knowledge to spread much quicker and much cheaper, therefore, new (or rather: rediscovered) ideas such as Humanism and sciences gained a lot more traction.

Also note how Brad, after being proven wrong on both accords subtly tried to change it. Now he claims that it was the "primary" factor (no doubt hoping he can defend that easier even though it's nonsensical) and on the other, he simply tries to pretend he never stated that the Renaissance started in the 12th century.
Quite some Messiah he turned out to be, eh?

Black Holes, How The Universe Works?

Pop Science. Its main merrit is that it allows laymen to look at some aspects of astrophysics and understand what's going on. In order to actually learn something, it's utterly pointless, as it dumbs down its topics too much to be considered precise.

Again: it's nice to watch this and get a few infos, but in terms of scientific value, it's roughly equivalent to Wikipedia (or any other lexicon, really).

 

[YankeeTrader]

Did you even read the links you posted.


That's a rhetorical question because of course you didn't.

Of course he doesn't read them. He has no intellectual honesty whatsoever.
He's moving his focus to the middle ages now since we've been destroying everything he's tried to sell so far. If anything he says has merit he'd stick to it and never let go. But it doesn't, so he has to move the goal posts. It's not the ancients now, it's the Renaissance now!

 

[ChurchOfGodBear]

Also note how Brad, after being proven wrong on both accords subtly tried to change it. Now he claims that it was the "primary" factor (no doubt hoping he can defend that easier even though it's nonsensical) and on the other, he simply tries to pretend he never stated that the Renaissance started in the 12th century.
Quite some Messiah he turned out to be, eh?

And Brad will keep spinning it (oh, I'm sorry... "tweaking" it) until he says "What I meant to say all along is that Billy the Kid started the US space program when he got the idea for the cotton gin from a kumquat falling on his head! It's a fact!"

 

[Brad Watson_Miami]

Did you even read the links you posted.

Yes and I've contributed in editing them in the past.

 

[RomanesEuntDomus]

On an unrelated note, I just figured we've been going at this Judgement-stuff the wrong way all along.
I realized this yesterday since it was the 500th anniversary of the Reformation, so here's the deal:

In order to repent, it was possible to go to Rome and to do penance there to absolve yourself (or maybe others) from their sins. However, some people weren't healthy enough or could not spare the time to travel all the way to Rome, therefore, the catholic church offered absolution in exchange for money...

...and that's where I entere the picture.

Just give me one "dindu" and you'll be absolved of your past judgements.
I can also grant you savety from future Judgements for the humble price of one good-boy point.

 

[Brad Watson_Miami]

Of course he doesn't read them.

That's a lie and you are an attacker. You have never "rebuked" anything.

He has no intellectual honesty whatsoever.

That's another lie. You are an evil compulsive and pathological liar. Hey! Do an experiment where you go into a Roman Catholic Church and make sure you get splashed with Holy Water and see if your skin starts to burn!

He's moving his focus to the middle ages now since we've been destroying everything he's tried to sell so far.

Wrong. You and the other little attackers have not "destroyed" anything I've claimed. I've made a couple small mistakes that I've immediately admitted to and corrected. And note that I AM not "selling" anything - all my information here and everywhere is FREE.

If anything he says has merit he'd stick to it and never let go.

Which is exactly what I've been accused of here.

But it doesn't, so he has to move the goal posts. It's not the ancients now, it's the Renaissance now!

Another lie: an intentional act to deceive with non-truths. @voiceguy mentioned that I knew nothing of Fibonacci except the Fibonacci series and I replied to him and proved him wrong.

You suck donkey cock.

 

[ChurchOfGodBear]

Another lie: an intentional act to deceive with non-truths. @voiceguy mentioned that I knew nothing of Fibonacci except the Fibonacci series and I replied to him and proved him wrong.

Your replies consisted of a Wikipedia link (which only proves what Wikipedia knows, not you) and you listed a tangential fact about him which you misinterpreted horribly.

 

[Brad Watson_Miami]

Well, Brad, we've been telling you for a while that your sources aren't very scholarly. Glad you've finally noticed.

Wrong again! Prof. Michio Kaku is one of the most respected physicists today and he's not an asshole like the militant atheist Lawrence Krauss is.

It's actually remarkable that society managed to arrest the "decline" of intellectual activity so well. Without the church and nobility stepping in to fill the void (imperfectly, granted) left by the Roman Empire, Europe could have reverted back to the stone ages, rather than merely returning to a feudal state with a barter system. The people in the Middle Ages did a great deal with very little.

Agreed. And how about that Fibonacci guy?! He certainly provided a paradigm-shift!

 

[YankeeTrader]

Your replies consisted of a Wikipedia link (which only proves what Wikipedia knows, not you) and you listed a tangential fact about him which you misinterpreted horribly.

The subject seems to be going to stage 5 quickly. It's a nice development considering how quiet he's been the past day or so.

Now he's going after Lawrence Krauss? I guess he couldn't understand "The Physics of Star Trek"

 

[RomanesEuntDomus]

Wrong. You and the other little attackers have not "destroyed" anything I've claimed. I've made a couple small mistakes that I've immediately admitted to and corrected.

Just one recent example:
As everyone remembers, Brad stated Gematria is part of Linguistics. It was proven conclusivelythat's not the case. In a vain attempt to cover his ass, he posted a dictionary definition which I rebuked by posting a scientific definition taken directly from a univeristies website (which I also linked).

Brad did not address the matter further and he certainly did not "correct his mistake".

He is, undeniably, lying yet again.

 

[ChurchOfGodBear]

The subject seems to be going to stage 5 quickly. It's a nice development considering how quiet he's been the past day or so.

It used to be we had to wait until after lunch to get him to Stage 5. Lately he isn't even making it to mid-morning.

 

[RomanesEuntDomus]

Agreed. And how about that Fibonacci guy?! He certainly provided a paradigm-shift!

You wish. He did have quite some impact, but attributing the entire Renaussance to him alone is a rather pointless way to boost your own ego with delusions of grandeurs from a past life. How much must your life suck now, that you have to elevate even someone's live you wish you had been before?

Edit:

Another example of wrong claims that Brad did not correct:
His claim that the Renaissance started in the 12th/13th century.

 

[ChurchOfGodBear]

Wrong again! Prof. Michio Kaku is one of the most respected physicists today

Which of his many books have you read?

 

[Brad Watson_Miami]

@RomanesEuntDomus,

Sentence: Awful luck for the rest of your life, then 20,000 years reincarnated as non-human with 666 years non-commutable. (Going backward, 666 years ago [1350] puts you in the beginning of the Renaissance. You were probably a priest fighting the use of Hindu-Arabic numerals, etc.) When you are born-again as human, it will be under the very hellish circumstances of birth defects for 2,000 years.

c.c. http://7seals.yuku.com


Synchronism: "Over 100 years ago, astronomers thought they had discovered life on Mars." - Megastorms, How The Universe Works (S2/Ep2, 2012) on SCI

You wish. He did have quite some impact, but attributing the entire Renaussance to him alone

Dickhead, I don't "attribute the entire Renaussance (spelling) to Fibonacci - I never said that and that would be ridiculous.

Another example of wrong claims that Brad did not correct:
His claim that the Renaissance started in the 12th/13th century.

Wrong and I never said that either.