State of Minnesota v. Nicholas Rekieta, Kayla Rekieta, April Imholte

[JohnE]

If the reason for probable cause were later found to be lies, but the warrant found evidence of crimes after the fact, how would that shake out.

Depends on the jurisdiction. Some states recognize a "good faith" exception for officers who reasonably rely on a warrant that is later found to be defective, but Minnesota has not adopted this exception.

 

[Blarmed&Dangerous]

I don't know if I'd go that far.

The reason why the cops were there to even talk to the kids was because of the warrant, which had its origins in the priest and, by proxy, the four concerned parishioners.

If it was all lies, them the police would have had no basis to even start looking. Fruit of the poisoned tree.

Maybe an anonymous tip could've lead the detective to watching Nick's drug streams, but I don't know if those themselves would be probable cause.

I guess that could an interesting thought experiment. If the reason for probable cause were later found to be lies, but the warrant found evidence of crimes after the fact, how would that shake out.

I am actually very familiar with the law re:evidentiary procedures, (though not in MN) but my point is not a legal one. I am responding to Nick, the noseguards, and lolberts saying that he was just enjoying a little flake which is his right and the child neglect stuff is histrionic pearl-clutching. If what the congregants/pastor said was untrue, and what Aaron said was untrue, that doesn't change - morally and factually, if not legally - that the kid asked the cop for clean clothes. It negates any noseguarding about the report being blown out of proportion.

 

[AnOminous]

I notice that there aren't any syringes on the list of things confiscated from the house.

The warrant is pretty vague and may just have been reporting the skin-picking behavior you often see with stimulants.

 

[Catgirl Tyranid]

So Nick tries to save April. Kayla attempts to fuck her over by calling her a live-in nanny.

I highly doubt Kayla has the mental capacity to be that diabolical given she's already an airhead and deep into substance abuse. It was probably closer to the truth. I bet she says "technically" because there was a conversation to that effect justifying April staying at their house to Kayla, but Kayla realizes deep down it's because April was a coke whore.

 

[reptile baht spaniard rid]

Instead of pastor reports Nick to the sheriff who reports him to the CPS, we could have had pastor reports Nick to the CPS who report him to the sheriff. Surely, it would make a huge difference for Nick's case.

Reporting to CPS probably WOULD have made a difference, because CPS probably would NOT have gone to the lengths of investigating livestreams and shit, and would have just showed up at the door, perhaps unannounced. They might have let the police know, but unless the police already had a pending warrant of some sort, they'd just say "ok go do your thing."

As things went down, we got pretty much the best option (for the kids). Half an hour earlier or later and rackets would have flushed his own giant cocaine stash.

 

[DwayneTheSockJohnson]

Can we try and figure out what the cop is saying with his godawful handwriting?:
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It's the physical evidence they found in the house. Drugs, the spent shell casing, various guns and ammo, drug paraphernalia (scale), money, and where they found them. Everything of the list has already been covered.

 

[AnOminous]

Heroin is usually brown or tan in the US.

If it was H or MDMA, it’ll show on their test kit though.

My guess is gunpowder or some weird research chem.

It can range from white powder to a black, tarry substance depending on origin and impurities. In any event, though, they'd have no difficulty identifying it if it were heroin. So as others have pointed out, it's probably some oddball substance like kratom, possibly something that isn't even illegal so they don't usually test for it.

I suppose it could also be some weird darknet research chemical but Nick is pretty boomery for that kind of stuff.

 

[talk talk talk]

Reporting to CPS probably WOULD have made a difference, because CPS probably would NOT have gone to the lengths of investigating livestreams and shit, and would have just showed up at the door, perhaps unannounced. They might have let the police know, but unless the police already had a pending warrant of some sort, they'd just say "ok go do your thing."

As things went down, we got pretty much the best option (for the kids). Half an hour earlier or later and rackets would have flushed his own giant cocaine stash.

And I think the result would have been my hypothetical scenario from before the warrant dropped. I thought this was a case of CPS trying to arrange a home visit and Balldo going all Cokestream on the social worker and that crazy reaction being the basis of the search warrant.

I did not foresee that the Kandiyohi Sheriff's Office would take the time to watch Balldo's videos. I'm still kind of surprised by that.

 

[Catgirl Tyranid]

Half an hour earlier or later and rackets would have flushed his own giant cocaine stash.

It would surprise me ZERO to find out the cops waited for Nick to leave the residence with the intention of pulling him over before searching the residence.

 

[AnOminous]

I did not foresee that the Kandiyohi Sheriff's Office would take the time to watch Balldo's videos. I'm still kind of surprised by that.

My guess is whoever reported him also pointed to his previous pillstream, and maybe was in ongoing contact, so mentioned THE pillstream from right before they tossed his shit. If they did, they probably would have been alarmed by how obviously unhinged and out of hand he was, and more to the point, clearly intoxicated on cocaine.

It would surprise me ZERO to find out the cops waited for Nick to leave the residence with the intention of pulling him over before searching the residence.

While it wouldn't surprise me, the language of the warrant affidavit seems to indicate it was a convenient coincidence. I can't think of any particular reason they'd have to conceal it if they had, since so far as I know, there's nothing improper about doing that. It's fairly customary to separate potential defendants so they don't have time to match up their stories, or for one codefendant to threaten the others.

 

[reptile baht spaniard rid]

I did not foresee that the Kandiyohi Sheriff's Office would take the time to watch Balldo's videos. I'm still kind of surprised by that.

I think the key line is that QP is/was a fan of the Steel Toe Morning Show. He openly says that the Amhole is known to him. He probably doesn't say it, but probably already knew about the "social media blogger".

It would surprise me ZERO to find out the cops waited for Nick to leave the residence with the intention of pulling him over before searching the residence.

Now I'm imagining Nick driving past ten squad cars, his daughter saying "thats a lot of cops" and he saying "yeah I feel sorry for that bastard", and not realizing he's on a dead-end road.

 

[DwayneTheSockJohnson]

Based on what Legal Mindset is saying on stream (link), zero. Nick is furious, sperging out (in what I think is the general lawtube DM/group chat). He's going to fight this.

I hope they stream the trial.

 

[gang weeder]

I think he's been charismatic all his life, but now the drugs have taken that from him. I don't think he realizes just how socially clumsy he's become. He just can't bullshit like he used to.

I imagine Nick is used to getting his way in life through constant gaslighting and sheer stubbornness, plus being born into wealth. He has never had to do any real self-criticism or personal growth/improvement and now that he's 40 and drug-addled his brain simply doesn't know how to. And now he has finally run into a situation that he cannot copesplain his way out of. He's like a guy in a pit who only has a shovel and starts using it to dig even deeper because it's all he knows how to do in life.

 

[talk talk talk]

Balldo has posted bond. I don't see any for Our Wife yet, but that could still be in process.

This is a bond issued by a bail bondsman. He didn't put up cash.

 

[Fapcop]

Balldo has posted bond. I don't see any for Our Wife yet, but that could still be in process.

This is a bond issued by a bail bondsman. He didn't put up cash.

Lol, of course he did. Nick isn’t going to let some prudish judge tell him he can’t drink a glass of scotch!

 

[gang weeder]

And I think the result would have been my hypothetical scenario from before the warrant dropped. I thought this was a case of CPS trying to arrange a home visit and Balldo going all Cokestream on the social worker and that crazy reaction being the basis of the search warrant.

I did not foresee that the Kandiyohi Sheriff's Office would take the time to watch Balldo's videos. I'm still kind of surprised by that.

I am sure they were getting flooded non-stop with calls emails etc. from Internet people about it. They'd probably at least be curious what so many anonymous retards were so upset about. If I were a cop or somebody else who works there and I'm getting dozens of strange tips about this guy in my jurisdiction livestreaming himself doing drugs, I'd definitely Google it and take a look.

 

[Henri Barbusse]

Nick getting unconditional cash bond for himself and not for Kayla would be really funny.

 

[AnOminous]

Nick getting unconditional cash bond for himself and not for Kayla would be really funny.

I'm rather curious about why the charges against the two relating to the children are worded differently.

 

[reptile baht spaniard rid]

well now the dog the bounty hunter arc can begin

It took a few days I wonder if daddy popped cash for him

If this were in my family I’d argue really strongly for the family NOT to spring for unconditional bond

 

[Cpl. Long Dong Silver]

Balldo has posted bond. I don't see any for Our Wife yet, but that could still be in process.

This is a bond issued by a bail bondsman. He didn't put up cash.

If you have the assets to pay for it wouldn't you be better off covering bond yourself?

A bail bondsman takes a cut no?