What is the point of dating if you're not doing it to procreate?

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It seems foolish to want a steady romantic partner and not desire marriage and children.
Sometimes people (especially the older crowd) are just looking for companionship and become long-time boyfriends/girlfriends and don't see the point in getting married as it's an expensive occasion with a bunch of fanfare that older folks just don't fancy. Sometimes this happens to younger people too but it is a little less common. It's often not a conscious thing, time flies fast when you're having fun.

Sometimes life just happens, usually one party already has kids that are on their way to leaving the nest if they haven't already, and the other party just doesn't feel strongly enough about children to pressure for more. Sometimes people just aren't naturally parental and are called to other forms of nurturing. Church service, child entertainment, just helping out siblings/cousins/extended family who are parents, animal husbandry, etc. True love and life partnership isn't just delegated to mom & pop, but auntie & uncle, and ol' drunkard Ted, and random junkies, and old folks in the nursing home, and so on and so forth.

Can KiwiBros give big props to the Unknown Farmer for clearing that high bar.
it was @secret watcher and i'm going for the buzzer here dude im going for the golden buzzer.
 
Just seems pointless. Most relationships don't make it to marriage anyway, so I feel one should approach dating with the intent of making it to the moon (marriage and family) and not just into space.
Here's an example of fun from 2 months ago. I went with this chick to a karaoke bar, we both had shots of tequila, we both were on stage duoing karaoke while neither of us were good at singing, and we had fun. You can reserve your want for a marriage and family to the side until you get a date where you feel that connection. Other than that it's just two people having fun with maybe a slight chance of being together. Just have fun and something might happen, that's the point of dating.
 
Here's an example of fun from 2 months ago. I went with this chick to a karaoke bar, we both had shots of tequila, we both were on stage duoing karaoke while neither of us were good at singing, and we had fun. You can reserve your want for a marriage and family to the side until you get a date where you feel that connection. Other than that it's just two people having fun with maybe a slight chance of being together. Just have fun and something might happen, that's the point of dating.
Going on dates is not the same as dating. One is unserious and the other is long term focused.

Yeah, sure. If you want to go on a couple of dates to test initial compatibility, that's smart. Or if you just want to serial date and meet new people, that's fine too. Long term dating with no intent or desire for something long lasting is like leasing vs buying. Imo
 
Going on dates is not the same as dating. One is unserious and the other is long term focused.

Yeah, sure. If you want to go on a couple of dates to test initial compatibility, that's smart. Or if you just want to serial date and meet new people, that's fine too. Long term dating with no intent or desire for something long lasting is like leasing vs buying. Imo
That makes sense. I guess I've just messed up or slipped away from too many good relationships where I'm kinda trying to just have fun with people instead of getting all serious about it like it's highschool. Gotta go with the flow be yourself, find yourself, and when you gotta get serious you'll find someone you like. Maybe I'm on too much hopium but I just learned that no matter how bad life can get, there's always a light in the darkness.
 
Men generally don't want kids until they really like someone and are settled into the relationship.
Every midwest male I have met except for maybe three actively want kids, a fair handful actually wanting to speedrun it (which I don’t think is fair to the child, but I digress). Your experiences may be different, maybe you live in some cucked area where men don’t want to have kids, but most men want kids and will actively pursue them, for better or for worse. Personally I’ve found women to be more apprehensive, typically citing the pains of childbirth, although that’s hardly a general rule either.

I know there are guys out there that are 100% for having kids and will commit to it even if we're living in crazy and gay times.
When the times are crazy and gay you teach your children to rise above the faggotry. That’s what we’ve done for thousands of years and why I find the “this world sucks” excuse to be rather cheap. Aside from post-WWII there‘s never really a “perfect” time to have a baby, and especially now is the time to be having them. We live in a society of plenty, and have more than enough resources to take care of children. Who cares if Sleepy Joe is promoting trannies or Drumpf is saying mean things on Twitter, that’s why you unplug the Internet for little Timmy and give him legos and a book. Teach him to be better than you and let him solve the problems, because we sure as Hell can’t (as much as we’d like to).

How many of those guys are going to laugh when you say nigger?
Considering it’s a 4chan dating app, tons. And there are undoubtedly a lot who genuinely want kids too. I’m not sure why you’re sneeding so hard over someone rejecting another farmer, when they did it to themselves.

I’m presuming that if you are actually of age to be on this site it is just so, so trust me: as early as approaching your thirties, the “half your age plus seven” rule goes from a rule of thumb to almost a physical feature you notice in women younger than you. The guys who claim they want the seventeen-year-old broodmare at forty have simply tricked themselves into believing so, and would be miserable if that were to actually occur.
There’s enough of a gap between me and women my age, the idea of having a wife that’s an entire generation younger is genuinely horrifying to me.

What is the point of dating if one does not plan to start a family (fertility problems excepted)?

It seems foolish to want a steady romantic partner and not desire marriage and children.
In short, life is complex and happiness is different for different people. Personally I want children, but some people don’t want children (either for legitimate or debaucherous reasons, looking at you Crackets). And marriage is a complex topic, I mean for one someone can be married through the church but not be legally married, and depending on your situation it may be beneficial to eschew that.

Question : Do you want kids?
Answer : Yes, (but not right now.)
Weeb : Fucking lying cunt. Doesn't want to impregnate a woman right now so he never wants kids!
He literally clicked “yes” on the app and said “no” IRL. And including a “but” after that yes is a gay way of saying no.
 
That makes sense. I guess I've just messed up or slipped away from too many good relationships where I'm kinda trying to just have fun with people instead of getting all serious about it like it's highschool. Gotta go with the flow be yourself, find yourself, and when you gotta get serious you'll find someone you like. Maybe I'm on too much hopium but I just learned that no matter how bad life can get, there's always a light in the darkness.
I feel it's easier to just have fun, but if you go in more serious you'll probably still have alot of fun, but with a greater chance of something more lasting and special coming out of it. I'm a helpless hopium enjoyer too.
In short, life is complex and happiness is different for different people
I don't really think so. Outside of some environmental factors, we are mostly the same. We are just really good at self deception and place greater importance on things that do not in fact bring us joy i.e. material goods, bragging rights, physical idleness/ease
 
I feel it's easier to just have fun, but if you go in more serious you'll probably still have alot of fun, but with a greater chance of something more lasting and special coming out of it. I'm a helpless hopium enjoyer too.
Yeah just rather recently I haven't felt that shiver or impulse where I know I feel like I can make a relationship outta it. You know when your heart flutters a bit at the thought of just sitting and talking with someone, sweet nothings and all that. Just been searching for that feeling again I guess.
For you maybe but it varies from person to person. For some people, they want to find someone they can truly connect with and have deep conversations that you probably wouldn't have with a normal friend. You can have fun with anyone without it necessarily being a "date".
I'm just spouting my usual ramblings since I'm a terminally online retard with opinions on too many things.
 
If you think it's sperging out to say men view a kid differently to the way a woman does then you're the terminally online sperg.
Except that's not what you said. You said very explicitly that 'men want a family, while women just want kids' and that's a patently false statement.
I have highlighted your words below.
Women want kids, while men want a family and they're not the same thing.

We are just really good at self deception and place greater importance on things that do not in fact bring us joy i.e. material goods, bragging rights, physical idleness/ease
Is passing down your genetic material not the ultimate bragging right?

People on this forum say things too definitively. It depends.
 
Is passing down your genetic material not the ultimate bragging right?

People on this forum say things too definitively. It depends
For some, I guess. Not myself. It's a very materialistic way of viewing procreation, but I know I'm out of step with many people who are very secular.

"It depends," "it's complicated," "it's not so simple," are not particularly useful statements in my experience. I have not seen them be useful except to cause inaction and retreat from decision-making.

Ah here I go, moralizing and philosophizing. Please kill me, I'm not old enough to get away with this.
 
"It depends," "it's complicated," "it's not so simple," are not particularly useful statements in my experience. I have not seen them be useful except to cause inaction and retreat from decision-making.
I agree with you here actually. In the context of decision-making and personal values it doesn't pay to be wishy-washy, but in terms of offering life advice it doesn't pay to make generalized statements either. It's bound to cause confusion, misunderstandings, and eventually bitterness.
 
I don't really think so. Outside of some environmental factors, we are mostly the same. We are just really good at self deception and place greater importance on things that do not in fact bring us joy i.e. material goods, bragging rights, physical idleness/ease
While I think I see what you’re trying to say, that instinctually we all crave children of our own, I would say even that is over-generalized and in some capacity wrong. The human mind is too complex to say we ALL desire the same few things and that it’s wrong and “doesn’t bring joy” to not do those things.

He said yes IRL as well. "Do you want kids" is a question without a time frame attached.
As I said, “yes BUT” is not a true yes here. Making excuses:
He gave a lot of reasons for not wanting kids (the world is a scary place, kids are expensive, schools are gay, he's not good with kids, etc)
and giving an unreasonably long timeframe:
he doesn't want them until "8-10 years" down the road
aren’t the right kinds of answers to the question CoolFool asked. And as she said, it’s not like she expects kids soon, but a more reasonable timeframe and not actively trying to excuse yourself by claiming a bunch of pussy shit are both steps in the right direction.
 
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What is the point of dating if one does not plan to start a family (fertility problems excepted)?

It seems foolish to want a steady romantic partner and not desire marriage and children.
I do want children but I understand that relationships are not about that. You can have a girlfriend and be childless my guy it's not a requirement. Honestly this is a first for me I don't think I've ever met someone that thought people who don't want children should stay single.
 
What is the point of dating if one does not plan to start a family (fertility problems excepted)?

It seems foolish to want a steady romantic partner and not desire marriage and children.
Some people just don't want children for whatever reason and they're not all rabid lunatics like the people on r/childfree. I still stand by my previous statement that it is absolutely foolish to lie about your desire to have kids, especially when the other party made it clear from the beginning that they want/don't want children.
I dunno the age but young men do not want kids, they don't think about having kids, young women do and constantly think about it.
Solid "it depends" but from my experience it's the opposite regarding males. Almost every male in my social circle had his first kid long before they hit their thirties and not because of societal expections or anything like that. Me and one of my best friends are the only one who have long-term relationships but no kids nor plan on having any (i am in a situation comparable to what @bliblblblbbllb posted so i knew very early in my life that kids would most likely not be in my future, i am sure i am missing out).
Just been searching for that feeling again I guess.
Ah, to be young again... :heart-full:
 
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I do want children but I understand that relationships are not about that. You can have a girlfriend and be childless my guy it's not a requirement. Honestly this is a first for me I don't think I've ever met someone that thought people who don't want children should stay single.
This is entirely a phenomenon limited to modern culture trends.

It was a requirement from before recorded human history Having a steady romantic partner with no desire for marriage or children is pointless.
 
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