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Yeah and not dying at 15 off a cough too your point being?
What is the point of dating if you're not doing it to procreate?
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Ironic, since people are only getting sadder and more isolated from their communities as they stop having children. We should all just be childless NEETs. You can have companionship with many different people and have many different types of relationships. Are you entailing that steady dating with no end goal in mind is how to find happiness? Never seen that be the case long term with anybody, personally. Not everyone is hedonist.
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Man, enough. It just seems that you two are going to have to agree to disagree on this. I've seen people go crazy over not having kids, yes. I've also seen too many people saddled with kids they didn't actually want. If the child-having was only reserved for people who truly wanted them —which is ample still, mind you — there would be a lot less turmoil in the world.
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"Not everyone's like this but everyone should be like me" brother leave the preaching to humans go back to coding. There is no standard model of happiness because every person is a world onto their own so yeah some people will find happiness that way, others will form a family and be happy and others will be happy with 0 relationships. I hate this 1 size-fits all megalomania, you're not in possession of universal truths you're just a retard in the world that likes thing A, relax.
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Lifelong companionship without the massive financial and emotional drain that is modern parenthood sounds nice and is one of my life goals. Not all childless people are noncommital hedonists who just want to hook up all the time.
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Three questions:
One: How old are you?
Two: Have you ever actually been in a relationship?
Three: What are your religious beliefs?
While this is a fair perspective to have for yourself and your own life, and indeed some people do choose to only date for marriage and children, I have noticed that the people who say that this belief and way to lifetime fulfillment is objectively correct without any nuance or room for other life paths tend to be males from highly-religious upbringings (often either traditional Catholic or Mormon from experience), or hyper-analytical autists, sometimes both, between the ages of 15-25 who have never been in a serious relationship. You cite you human history and tradition, once upon a time when we were living in tribes there were some people who dedicated their lives to Shamanism, healing, or mentorship, and instead just cared for their siblings' children, with whom they shared enough genetic material with for it to not be selected out. Many highly influential scientists, artists, and religious figures throughout history have chosen not to have children, instead pouring their creative energy into other pursuits, and their communities and humanity as a whole were enriched by it. In a world where the average family is atomised and isolated, many (most) parents do not have the support that their ancestors 3,000 years ago would have. Have you seen the studies on extant hunter-gatherer societies? Quite often, there is a ratio of something like 10 caregivers per one child, it takes a village. Now, parents make due, but raising children is fucking hard in this day and age. If you're going to cite historical precedence, think about how humans raised children communally, people will make different choices when their environments and cultures are very different. Humans are not just genetic automatons running on fleshy wetware, certainly not in the way you seem to want to believe they are.
Not everyone finds the fulfillment they want from childrearing, some people want to serve their communities, some people want to devote their lives to science or art. It isn't for everyone, and that's okay.
As for why people date even if they don't choose to have kids... Come on, man. Do you not have an Aunt whose husband died when they were in their 60s? People like to date because it is nice to love other people and be loved in turn. Most people aren't perfectly logical robots, a lot of people do a lot of "pointless" things just because it is nice. Have you ever played a videogame before? That's a pointless activity, you aren't strengthening your body, mind, or spirit, you aren't actively working towards getting a mate and reproducing, you are doing it simply because it is fun.
I implore you to get out and live a little, you aspie.
EDIT (can't quote properly on my phone):
One: How old are you?
Two: Have you ever actually been in a relationship?
Three: What are your religious beliefs?
While this is a fair perspective to have for yourself and your own life, and indeed some people do choose to only date for marriage and children, I have noticed that the people who say that this belief and way to lifetime fulfillment is objectively correct without any nuance or room for other life paths tend to be males from highly-religious upbringings (often either traditional Catholic or Mormon from experience), or hyper-analytical autists, sometimes both, between the ages of 15-25 who have never been in a serious relationship. You cite you human history and tradition, once upon a time when we were living in tribes there were some people who dedicated their lives to Shamanism, healing, or mentorship, and instead just cared for their siblings' children, with whom they shared enough genetic material with for it to not be selected out. Many highly influential scientists, artists, and religious figures throughout history have chosen not to have children, instead pouring their creative energy into other pursuits, and their communities and humanity as a whole were enriched by it. In a world where the average family is atomised and isolated, many (most) parents do not have the support that their ancestors 3,000 years ago would have. Have you seen the studies on extant hunter-gatherer societies? Quite often, there is a ratio of something like 10 caregivers per one child, it takes a village. Now, parents make due, but raising children is fucking hard in this day and age. If you're going to cite historical precedence, think about how humans raised children communally, people will make different choices when their environments and cultures are very different. Humans are not just genetic automatons running on fleshy wetware, certainly not in the way you seem to want to believe they are.
Not everyone finds the fulfillment they want from childrearing, some people want to serve their communities, some people want to devote their lives to science or art. It isn't for everyone, and that's okay.
As for why people date even if they don't choose to have kids... Come on, man. Do you not have an Aunt whose husband died when they were in their 60s? People like to date because it is nice to love other people and be loved in turn. Most people aren't perfectly logical robots, a lot of people do a lot of "pointless" things just because it is nice. Have you ever played a videogame before? That's a pointless activity, you aren't strengthening your body, mind, or spirit, you aren't actively working towards getting a mate and reproducing, you are doing it simply because it is fun.
I implore you to get out and live a little, you aspie.
EDIT (can't quote properly on my phone):
This.
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