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Is Dating a Total Nightmare for You Right Now?

On a recent Saturday night in Austin, Anya Haas went out hoping to meet someone. She planned to grab a bar seat at a trendy restaurant and scope out her options, but when she arrived, it was packed. While waiting, an elderly man offered to buy Haas dinner; she politely declined and left to grab some sushi before heading to a comedy show. There, she figured, it would be easier to mingle with people her own age. But when the 32-year-old hospitality worker arrived at the club, it was mostly empty. She was also the only person who sat in the front row, and the comics singled her out for being alone. Humiliated, Haas then got a ride home from a single, 75-year-old woman who said she drove for Uber in order to meet people. That’s going to be me, Haas thought while petting the driver’s dog.

Once she got home, Haas recorded a videorecapping her mortifying experience. “I’m not someone who posts or cries on the Internet,” she says. “So this is a new one for me.” Haas, who has been single for the past seven years, talks through tears about how tired she is of people telling her a dream man will “come along when you least expect it.” “I’m so sick of hearing that,” she says, slamming her hands down on her kitchen island. “There’s such a thing as people who just don’t find their person and don’t get married.”

Haas had posted on TikTok only three times before, but by the next day, her video had millions of views across the internet. People began to repost her TikTok alongside other videos of tearful 20- and 30-something single women, and the reactions showed just how disconnected the sexes are when it comes to the state of dating in 2024. Many men criticized Haas for having “unrealistic expectations” or seemed confused by her dilemma. “Why are so many 29 yr old boss girls from Tiktok having public meltdowns about failing to find a man?” wrote one dude on X. Meanwhile, legions of women commiserated. “I’m in the same boat,” one 30-year-old wrote, adding that she also hadn’t been in a relationship in almost seven years.

Single people have always griped about trying to meet someone, but lately, it seems heterosexual women have reached a breaking point. Not only are they crying on-camera and swearing off dating apps, they are becomingvoluntarily celibate like Julia Fox or going “boysober.” When Bumble ran an anti-celibacy campaign last month, the company received so much backlash it was forced to pull the ads and apologize. Taken together, it looks as though single women in the U.S. are one more bad date away from launching their own version of South Korea’s 4B movement, in which women refuse to date, fuck, marry, or have kids with men.

Ryan Spencer vented her frustrations on TikTok in mid-May because conversations with a new love interest were stuck at surface level. None of the five men she had previously dated provided the 29-year-old with the deep commitment she’s seeking either. “How much longer do I have to pray and manifest and wait?” she says in her video. Choking back tears, she wonders, “Is it just supposed to be me, alone?” Spencer tells me she grew up with parents who still “absolutely love the shit out of each other,” and along with marriage, kids, and a house, she wants the fairy-tale romance, too. “I’m not denying that I’m a little bit delulu when it comes to falling in love,” she says. “I’m sorry, I grew up watching Disney movies!”

Taylor, who asked to go by her first name only, could relate to Spencer’s video even though she’s not angling for a marriage proposal. “She has a solid life but doesn’t have a person to share it with,” the 30-year-old pastry cook says of the TikTok. “It hit me recently: 90 percent of the things I do on a daily basis I do alone.” Taylor, who lives in Brooklyn and wants a partnership of some kind, says so many of the guys she meets suffer from what she calls “porn brain”: They prize performative masculinity over actual connection. During sex, she says, they focus on dominance rather than her pleasure. Her only relationship ended a year and a half ago, and while she has been on a few dates since then, it’s been hard to have meaningful conversations.

All the women I spoke with said they feel apps have turned dates into transactions. Haas swore off Bumble and Hinge more than a year ago, finding that most guys just pretended to want something serious in order to get laid. (Since posting her video, she says two men she previously matched with sent unprompted dick pics.) Anissa, a 31-year-old corporate lawyer who asked to go by a pseudonym, tells me the guys she meets seem interested in “conquest” while she and other single women are “trying to just find their person.” She describes three male archetypes she has encountered on the apps: “He either wants to have sex with you immediately. Or he’s already in a relationship and is just so obviously noncommittal. Or he’s obsessed with you.” One guy lied to her about his job and where he lived, another confessed last-minute to being in an open relationship, and the last man she went on a date with became overly attached to her after spending only a few hours together. She flaked on their follow-up plans. “There’s a sickness where we don’t see people as people because of the apps,” she says. “We always think that there’s something ‘better’ out there.”

Anissa isn’t finding it any easier to meet guys offline. In her experience, men her age tend to pick up younger women in bars. “He’s going to go up to the scantily clad 21-year-old who’s having the time of her life,” she says. “Not three grumpy 31-year-olds.” Taylor also hasn’t had any luck in the wild after ditching dating apps. She says that in her 20s, it was easy to meet someone every weekend at Union Pool, the notoriously horny Williamsburg club. Now, she finds the bar crowd is more closed off and cliqued up. Watching Haas’s video, she thought, Someone’s sitting alone at a comedy show? Sounds about right. “In the past five years, I don’t think I’ve ever met someone out there randomly,” she adds.

Each woman offers different theories on why dating is such a drag right now. Taylor blames technology, and Spencer finds men her age are more interested in “getting shit-faced in New York City every weekend” than in committing to a relationship, partly because the COVID-19 pandemic derailed their prime sexual years. Another woman in her early 30s tells me she has been on an eight-month break from dating men because she thinks they’ve become more politically conservative. (Some studies show that young women are becoming more liberal than young men, though experts are skeptical that there’s a significant political divide between the sexes.) Haas is concerned about the online network of men’s-rights activists who want to “turn guys against women.” The one common thread throughout these conversations, though, is that the women believe their romantic priorities are fundamentally different from those of guys their age. That may not be a new problem (see: Men Are From Mars, Women Are From Venus), but it feels especially pressing in the age of Andrew Tate and swiping left.

Taylor still feels hopeful that she’ll meet someone even if she has no idea when. But Anissa isn’t so sure. Like Spencer and Haas, the thought of being single long-term terrifies her; she doesn’t want to spend her Friday nights with her cat eating sushi. She also hates it when people tell her a relationship will happen when she stops trying to make it happen. “I think that is the biggest lie that we tell each other and ourselves,” Anissa says. “You have to look.” But where is she supposed to look, exactly? For her part, Haas wants to be more proactive about flirting IRL by complimenting hot men she sees at the grocery store or in a coffee shop. Rather than going to a bar and hoping to get hit on, she’s also forcing herself to get off the couch and hang out with friends she doesn’t normally see. “I’m just going to try and have fun and see if that helps,” she says.

On Instagram, she currently has 180 unread messages, but the DMs Haas is most excited about have been from other women in Austin asking her to hang out. If the video scores her a few new friends, it will have served a purpose — though she has thought about taking it down. “If I magically do meet somebody,” she says, “I don’t need them to be able to go to my TikTok and see me crying all over the internet.”
 
Why lie to women like that though? I get your point but as a guy you can't be friends with a woman the same way you can a man.
You can be, it's just that it's rare and usually happens because of circumstance forcing you in close proximity to each other.
I desire them sexually and I'm not going to lie by saying that being friends is an acceptable alternative, I want her genuine desire and you don't get that by being her "friend".
You're confusing two different situations. If what you actually want with a particular woman is a relationship, then you should never accept mere friendship. Don't do that to yourself. Tell her that's not what you're interested in, and forget about her.

If you're not interested in a woman that way, you can be friends with her. If you feel that way about every woman you're friends with, you need to, at bare minimum, stop lying to yourself that you're friends with them, and put that energy towards the grind of finding a mate instead of trying to be friends with the hope of more.

And that's not to say you can't go from friends to dating. But there has to be a spark of interest there on both sides in the first place.
 
Kids of both sexes. They have an ok friend group and the schools are fairly sane, goodness knows what will happen at uni. Not sure I even want to think about it tbh

You need to talk to them about the importance of getting married in your twenties and to be looking out for a good spouse, not just a good time. They will not figure it out on their own.
 
You're confusing two different situations.
What do you mean? You've just used more words to say what I've already said. If a women says LJBF tag on "with you" and move on.
You can be,
My dude if I talked to female friends 1% the way I do to my male friends I'm getting a write up from HR and having to console her as she cries her eyes out saying "how could you call me that?"
looking out for a good spouse, not just a good time.
You know that you can find a good spouse by first having a good time with them? If you're not having fun with her around what's the point in having her around?
 
Same can be said for women.
I’ve been taking up more outdoor activities, which I would have done otherwise, in trying to put myself out there but I never see anyone my age actually doing anything. It’s always mothers with their kids or the elderly. The only activity I consistently see young women participate in is getting shitfaced.
 
Thottie Thottie such a hottie, eyebrows plucked and Tinder naughty

At 22 an Insta star, while having sex with Omar

HPV scare at 25, the vaccines kept her alive

Got promoted at 27, instantly dumped that broke-ass Devon

Earns six figures at 29, saying all men are swine

Adopts a cat at 33, "You're like a child to me!"

Still not married at 36, but has all the freshest kicks

Lives alone at 41, always thought somebody'd come.

Thottie Thottie such a hottie, eyebrows thin; the Tinder auntie

Her job forgot her, someone's daughter

And no one cares what all this taught her.
Reminds me of the origins for the child poem "Ring around the rosie." That one legit came from the Black Plague as it describes the symptoms until the conclusion.
 
I went to college in a blue city bughive and was a bartender at one of these college pick up bars she's talking about.

The average age is 16-19 (yes people use fake IDs and management overlooks it because shekels) anyone mid 20s was considered to be "old."

This deluded slag is 34 and going to bars intended for the late teens crowd. The men she's trying to get picked up by are almost young enough to be her children and she's wondering why she's not having any success.
 
Go to any bar on the Drag and talk to a random dude.
Women cannot be incels. They can at any time go on the street and find a good man that will take care of them for the rest of their lives. They just don't view those men as human. Make no mistake. Any woman at any time can sign into Hinge, find their 5'8 Brian in middle management and throw themselves at him. He will give them everything they want and then some. Except something that people, especially Boomers, don't seem to get is that the modern 30 year old woman doesn't want that. Their standards for men is skyrocket high because social media has poisoned and tainted their POV of reality.
To a lot of modern women, 5'8 Brian in middle management is not even human. He's not on their radar of potential partners. He is INVISIBLE to these broads. They don't even know he exists. A man can be perfect marriage material, but if he's not the best the woman has ever had, they don't even notice he exists.

This is what nobody seems to understand about hypergamous women. Once a woman gets a taste of 6-6-6 Chad, she's not settling for much less. She thinks if Chad shags her a few times on slow nights that she's in a situationship. That taints her view FOREVER, as it would anyone. She will honestly believe that she can get a man of at least similar quality to marry her. You can't fix this outside of a major ego death. Even then, by the time that ego death happens at 30 and she decides maybe 5'10 Kevin is close enough, she has a bigger problem. She has a life.

Most women have lives by the time they're 30. They're 30, single, make money, do what they want, when they want. They're already happy and they want you as 5'10 Kevin to somehow make their already Perfect Lifestyle better. They don't understand that NO MAN WANTS TO DO THIS. Why do you think "Step Up" is such a popular phrase among these hoebags? It's because they literally mean they want you to elevate their already decent lives. They're completely oblivious to the fact that this directly conflicts with what men
actually want. Here's the thing women don't seem to get: Men don't want to start a relationship fighting against your lifestyle. We can TRY, but it's an uphill battle and even the dumbest of men quickly realize this isn't the way. We can all date younger women in their 20s who don't have everything they want and make a life together with them and that will be infinitely better than trying to improve a 30 year olds already perfect life. It's not worth it. Nobody can make your perfect life better and nobody wants to try.
 
Let me guess " blame women"

Opens thread - yep blame women.

Women are too picky . Guys none of you would have survived dating 20-30 years ago when a woman expects you to have a house, car and sizable savings for wedding and a ring .

Somehow women today are too picky asking to be seen as human and treated as people and "gasp" not lying to them . Oh and have a job something that 32 % of you don't have . Am i reading this right?

They should all join 4 B movement.
 
32-year-old hospitality worker
one 30-year-old wrote
30-year-old pastry cook
31-year-old corporate lawyer
Another woman in her early 30s
:story:

another group of roasties who thought they would never age out of being desirable and wasted their scant years of beauty on coomer bughiver men

it looks as though single women in the U.S. are one more bad date away from launching their own version of South Korea’s 4B movement, in which women refuse to date, fuck, marry, or have kids with men.
you can't fire me, i quit, says the toothless meth addict who just got caught stealing from the till
 
Guys none of you would have survived dating 20-30 years ago when a woman expects you to have a house, car and sizable savings for wedding and a ring .
Somehow women today are too picky asking to be seen as human and treated as people and "gasp" not lying to them . Oh and have a job something that 32 % of you don't have . Am i reading this right?
you can't fire me, i quit, says the toothless meth addict who just got caught stealing from the till
I'd add on but this is perfect
 
Spencer tells me she grew up with parents who still “absolutely love the shit out of each other,” and along with marriage, kids, and a house, she wants the fairy-tale romance, too. “I’m not denying that I’m a little bit delulu when it comes to falling in love,” she says. “I’m sorry, I grew up watching Disney movies!”
She's a LOT delulu. I think women these days have absolutely been brainwashed from childhood with these fairytales, and nobody ever told them different. I had to break my wife of this as well, and we've both been much happier since the standard is now at "be human beings who love each other", rather than "be prince charming and snow white".

Women are too picky . Guys none of you would have survived dating 20-30 years ago when a woman expects you to have a house, car and sizable savings for wedding and a ring
Women 20-30 years ago didn't expect you to already have a house. That's a flat out lie. Newlyweds picking out their first house together is a trope for a reason. A car and savings for a ring, sure. Your own apartment and not living with your parents? Absolutely. In fact, I don't think it's ever been a thing in the last 50 years that a bachelor was required to own a house by the vast majority of women.
 
Maybe they should just focus on making more friends.

You'd be surprised at how often friendships have the potential to turn romantic once you find that one friend who is on the same wavelength as you. Maybe they wont be the most attractive person out there, but if you can tolerate each other and enjoy spending time together then they're the one.
This is a terrible idea for a lot of reasons but the obvious one is that women don't operate that way. The longer you associate with someone under the pretense of non-romantic views, the longer they'll see you as a friend. A woman will eventually stop seeing you as a potential romantic partner regardless of how compatible you are. They want to see you as a romantic interest. They LIKE the game. Being friends with a girl before asking her out is terrible advice and it always was. Don't be a fucking NEET. Be direct. When you don't, you waste her time and more importantly, yours.

Women are too picky . Guys none of you would have survived dating 20-30 years ago when a woman expects you to have a house, car and sizable savings for wedding and a ring .

Somehow women today are too picky asking to be seen as human and treated as people and "gasp" not lying to them . Oh and have a job something that 32 % of you don't have . Am i reading this right?

They should all join 4 B movement.
They should join the Pick Me Movement. Despite what you seem to believe, most women do not in fact want to die childless and alone. The 4B Movement all but guarantees they will. If they become Pick Me Girls, they at least have a chance of finding a man to marry them. But a small chance is better than no chance. I don't want these women dying alone. The same way I say a bunch of lonely men with nothing to lose are dangerous, a bunch of lonely women with nothing better to do aren't much better.

We've seen what Feminism has done to the world. Imagine that on a bigger scale now that these women are virtually just men with all the time in the world. They're going to be hooked on anti depressants constantly, voting for the worst possible things, and getting into politics and making the most demonic policies imaginable. Just because it's funny to LARP and say they'll die alone doesn't mean they won't spend the next 50 years doing as much damage to the system that robbed them of happiness as humanly possible. We're neck deep in what a Feminist Society has already wrought and the system is collapsing. What do you think will happen when all these lonely women have money, resources, and continue in their college activist causes? They're going to flat out eviscerate every freedom left in this world. That cuntbag who said the 2nd amendment doesn't exist in her courtroom will be the norm. And it's going to be EVERYWHERE.
 
Women cannot be incels. They can at any time go on the street and find a good man that will take care of them for the rest of their lives. They just don't view those men as human.
I just don’t see this from experience. I have never had men throwing themselves at me. Certainly not six foot four beautiful rich men, but not the five foot nine Kevin from accounts either. It doesn’t happen as a universal constant, maybe it does for girls who tart themselves up and get out there but this is not a universal thing for women. I’m no supermodel, but neither am I ugly, I was a pretty enough , petite, polite and nice girl. I have literally never ever had a man throw himself at me. Not once.
Any woman at any time can sign into Hinge, find their 5'8 Brian in middle management and throw themselves at him. He will give them everything they want and then some.
As above. It’s never happened to me. Have things changed that much in a few years or is this perhaps not a very accurate concept? You can turn it round to that men can find women too they just have to lower their standards. But men don’t want to do that either I think, and in some ways they shouldn’t have to as long as those standards are reasonable. Like women
I think standards are a good thing in some ways. You want someone stable, decent, who you can build a life with. I wouldnt go for someone with a string of convictions, a substance abuse problem, a face full of tattoos or anger issues for example, those are standards. Looks and money? Well that’s nice but it’s not an absolute need. If you get together young you’re not likely to be rich at the start unless you’re from a moneyed background and goodness knows I wasn’t so I didn’t expect that from a bloke. Looks? People would be lying if they said they were attracted to attractive people but there’s a big difference between thinking ‘well it’d be nice’ and ending up with Kevin from accounts who is no looker but a good bloke, vs discarding anyone not looking like a model before you’ve spoken to them. Everyone I knew from school married other average people like themselves. They weren’t holding out for models or Aristotle Onassis.
Guys none of you would have survived dating 20-30 years ago when a woman expects you to have a house, car and sizable savings for wedding and a ring .
I don’t think this was the case when I was younger. This probably varies by social strata . The expectation as an average plebeian was you’d be young and skint, work hard, buy a starter wreck and do it up and have a few kids then keep working and gradually build up security. I know my parents had packing crates for chairs for a while until they saved up for furniture and fittings. The expectation would have been a man who is willing to work hard to get to that point.
I think this idea that all women are inundated with constant offers from wonderful men is a false one, it’s extremely demoralising, so maybe think why tptb would like you to think that? To create resentment?
 
They should join the Pick Me Movement
okay convince me to join the pick me movement considering their adherents ended up bend over and fucked without lube.

  • Kayla Rekieta - I dont wanna hear how she is terrible etc she did EVERYTHING her husband asked for including tolerating the mistress in her house, she was picture perferct woman, dating a broke ugly bitch , not riding a dick carousel, and all she wanted was to love her and have babies with her thats it.
  • Lauren Southern - gave up career and burned through her savings so she could keep her marriage only to end up single mom, divorcee and ridiculed by every "rightwing " man on the internet. And then nitpicked over everysingle mistake including her marrying "brown" man who was a hapa
  • Shoeonhead, humiliatied publicly by Armored sceptic in a retarded attempt for her to keep him and get married only to acquire the ire of incels and mockery when when Greg dumped her for being old and then getting catfished for shit and giggles and her nudes leaked
  • Nora, and the subsequent wife and gf of Ethanol ralph do I even need to explain this?
  • Pearl Davis pumped and dumped by a nigger after groweling for any man to touch her
  • Most of the pick mes in this forum somehow ended up single moms or unmarried well in their 40s
Now lets see the ones who Didnt gave a fuck and dragged men through the mud , whore themselves out and ignored every single shit coming out of mens mouth

  • Anisa jomha still sucking Idubz dry and publicly humiliates him
  • Trisha paytas enough said she got the man and the two kids tm
  • Stan our resident ass eating liberal that has ring that cost more than a starter car
  • Various batshit shameless lolcows that have husbands that put up with them even wipe their asses in deathfats ( crosses herself)
Tell me bud why i should listen to you?
 
Kids of both sexes. They have an ok friend group and the schools are fairly sane, goodness knows what will happen at uni. Not sure I even want to think about it tbh
I go to modern uni and I've come out alright all things considered. Don't worry too much over it, if your kids get dragged to any sort of insane bullshit, well, you've done your best and that's up to them. I'm pals with commies for example yet nothing has come out of it other than the slight increase in the desire to eat bread.

Lots of normal people in uni, the whackjobs are actually quite few. Unless you go to social sciences, I guess.
 
I think this idea that all women are inundated with constant offers from wonderful men is a false one, it’s extremely demoralising, so maybe think why tptb would like you to think that? To create resentment?
its demographics If my ugly ass can land a man with a house and car any woman can . You are aging society fertile women ages 20-40 are more valuable and its a sellers market. And considering the attitudes by their male counterparts who if they ever reach any higher strata they should upgrade wife\ gf women should not deal with anything less and should not invest themselves in worthless men who obviosly would have discarded them if they could get better. It is transactional btw regardless of the brokies here say.
 
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