Defying science, American parents are turning away from male circumcision - “Our risk-benefit analysis showed that benefits exceeded procedural risks… by up to 200 to 1.”

Defying science, American parents are turning away from male circumcision

“Our risk-benefit analysis showed that benefits exceeded procedural risks… by up to 200 to 1.”

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My wife and I are currently expecting our first child in late October, a boy, and we recently started discussing whether or not to circumcise. For those unaware, circumcision is the surgical removal of the foreskin covering the tip of the penis. I entered the discussion in favor, but with no strong feelings either way. However, after researching the scientific literature and expert opinion, I came out firmly for the procedure, and frankly somewhat frustrated at the recent trend against it.

It’s not hip to nip the tip​

Circumcision has become an increasingly fraught topic over the past few decades, as new American parents have grown uncomfortable with the idea of severing a piece of their child’s body, minor though it may be. This is understandable from an ethical perspective: A newborn baby cannot consent to such an unalterable act. Anti-circumcision advocates argue that it is better to forgo the procedure in infancy and allow the child to make his own decision later on. As a result of this intuitive reasoning, rates of circumcision have fallen from about 85% in 1965 to roughly 58% in 2010, the latest year for which solid data is available.

Parents, however, also have the responsibility to do what’s best for their child, even if that decision causes personal discomfort. And the evidence for the health benefits of circumcision, accumulated over decades of research, is overwhelming.

Firm evidence in favor of circumcision​

“Our risk-benefit analysis showed that benefits exceeded procedural risks, which are predominantly minor, by up to 200 to 1,” an international team of researchers reported in a 2017 systematic review of 140 studies conducted in the prior decade.

The myriad benefits include:
  • A large reduction in urinary tract infections, which affect 1 in 12 circumcised males over their lifetime compared to 1 in 3 uncircumcised males.
  • A large reduction in balantis — a painful, itchy, and potentially disfiguring swelling of the head of the penis — typically caused by fungal infection. The lifetime rate is 12% for uncircumcised men vs. 2% for circumcised men.
  • A 15% to 50% lower risk of prostate cancer. Prostate cancer is the second leading cause of cancer death in U.S. men, killing 34,500 every year.
  • An up to 70% lower rate of contracting HIV. (Though this was derived from studies conducted in Africa. The reduction in the U.S. is probably lower, potentially just 16%.)
  • A 50% lower risk of contracting genital human papillomavirus.
  • A greatly reduced risk of penile cancer (even though it is rare). The lifetime risk is approximately 1 in 1,000 for an uncircumcised man vs. 1 in 50,000 to 1 in 12,000,000 for a circumcised man.
  • A reduced risk of giving female sex partners bacterial vaginal infections and sexually transmitted infections.
The moist, warm environment under the foreskin is a hub for fungal and bacterial growth. Proper penis hygiene can be a challenge for uncircumcised males.

In 2012, public health researchers at Johns Hopkins University tallied the national costs of falling circumcision rates in the United States.

“If U.S. male circumcision rates among men born in the same year dropped to European rates (~10%), there would be an expected 12 percent increase in men infected with HIV (or 4,843); 29 percent more men infected with human papillomavirus (57,124); a 19 percent increase in men infected with herpes simplex virus (124,767); and a 211 percent jump in the number of infant male urinary tract infections (26,876). Among their female sex partners, there would be 50 percent more cases each of bacterial vaginosis (538,865) and trichomoniasis (64,585). The number of new infections with the high-risk form of human papillomavirus, which is closely linked to cervical cancer in women, would increase by 18 percent (33,148 more infections).”

Flaccid objections​

Critics contend that male circumcision reduces sexual pleasure later in life, leading to regret, that it causes harm and frequently results in adverse outcomes, and that it can easily be performed later in life at the son’s own choice. Accumulated evidence counters all these objections.

High quality studies show no difference in sexual function and potentially increased penile sensitivity after circumcision. A survey of circumcised and uncircumcised men published earlier this year found no differences between the groups in feelings of regret about their circumcision status or sexual satisfaction. Adverse events occur in about 0.4% of infant circumcision procedures, almost all of them minor with no long-term complications. Surgical providers in the U.S. now commonly utilize analgesia to numb any pain during the process.

Lastly, as Australian scientists wrote in 2019, compared to circumcision later in life, infant circumcision is “simpler, quicker, less expensive, with lower risk of complications, healing is faster, and the scar can be almost invisible.” They added, “There are substantial barriers to later circumcision. These barriers include the decision process, peer pressure, affordability, slower healing, pain during nocturnal erections, the need to abstain from sexual activity for ∼6 weeks, and a visible scar afterwards.” The simple fact is that the overwhelming majority of uncircumcised males do not choose to get circumcised later, even if it’s to their benefit, because the procedure is much more onerous, risky, and expensive.

As Missouri urologists Elizabeth A. Piontek, MD and Justin M. Albani, MD wrote in 2019, “Parents make countless decisions on their children’s behalf daily to keep them healthy and safe, and this routinely includes procedures as well. Clearly, circumcision and its medical benefits fall within this same scope.”

Parents are, of course, free to make their own decisions in regard to their young children. The American Academy of Pediatrics said as much in their latest position statement on circumcision, noting that the benefits do outweigh the risks, but ultimately parents should make the choice. However, the simple fact is that if parents choose not to circumcise, they are denying their sons clear medical benefits that will improve their health and the health of their future partners.
 
Not one of their supposed arguments for circumcision allow for the very simple fact that an adult male can choose to get this done to themselves at any time, if they wish. And it would not only be consensual but safer to perform due to the larger area and natural loosing up that occurs as one grows. It is telling that outside of actual medical reason, almost no man does.

Nor do they attempt to balance any of their very situational benefits against the negatives of losing your foreskin which are not only to do with sexual arousal and pleasure, but also to do with disease resistance and protection of the glans.

In the UK, when changes to how payments were done made circumcision suddenly less lucrative to doctors, rates of circumcision plummeted. Which tells you a lot about motivations in medical advice to parents.
 
Here's a thing. I'm fine with circumsition once the boy is older. Like teenager. Reason for this is because its much easier to figure out where to cut because its bigger. Also less traumatizing because teenagers can understand to an extent why they have to go through with it. Whereas a baby, all they'll learn is pain and suffering which will haunt them throughout their lives. And the very real risk of castration if not permanent injury. Especially when you take into account how there's doctors now who are in it because DIE.

But knowing how Heebs want the baby version, because tradition + big bucks involving turning foreskin into various products... yeah.
 
These dick clipping kikes have medical lobbying groups that push to make sure circumcision is always covered by insurance and the default option in hospitals. They are shameless in pushing this cruel, abnormal religious practice and get super angry when people protect their children.

Jews even have the audacity to put bleeding baby dicks in their mouths and suck on the wound as part of the metzitzah b’peh circumcision ritual. Because infants have caught herpes and died from this form of child molestation, the CDC and NYC Health Dept have to keep records and it’s been reported in mainstream media. Since what happended in 2020 Jews have been trying to conceal their habit of sucking on infant penises.
  1. abcNEWS: Baby Dies of Herpes in Ritual Circumcision By Orthodox Jews 2012 (archive)
  2. NYC Health dept: Metzitzah B’peh (Direct Oral Suctioning) (archive)
  3. NYC Health Dept: 2020 ALERT # 2 Three New Cases of Neonatal Herpes Infection Following Ritual Jewish Circumcision pdf (health alert main page) see attached pdf
  4. Daily Mail: New York health officials warn over circumcision ritual after four cases of herpes in babies were linked to procedures performed by Rabbis, Febuary 2020 (archive)
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This needs to be illegal and jews need to be in gulags.
 

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I got a lot of pushback for refusing to circumcise my son. No. Fuck you. Leave my kid’s body alone. It’s fine just the way it is.

I always asked people who brought it up whether I should amputate his arms and legs too. After all, having no limbs will decrease the risk of a broken limb by 100%.
 
as most of us are used to seeing uncircumcised
That's not really a good argument to continue doing something, and also simply isn't true in much of the world.

There's a joke people make here about "trousers so tight you can tell his religion", since only Jews and Muslims are circumcised.
 
The procedure is barbaric and horrible, not something an infant should go through, that's the bottom line. Besides, all the supposed benefits are trivial in a world in which modern hygienic practices and condoms exist.


Trust me on this, there will be other sources for that if there aren't already.
This. I think we are advanced enough as a species at this point (even with all the retards out there) that we shouldn't be cutting parts off healthy babies. It's not like these kids are only bathing once a month like they were 2000 years ago
 
For health reasons? No foreskin means ticks can't burrow under it. With forest dwelling parasites a constant work hazard, I am thankful for that at least.
If you are so regularly having insects on your dick that is has become an issue, you have bigger problems than circumcision
 
Stop mutilating children's genitals. Stop trying to justify it with "science". Even the fucking Jews have a better reason: at least God told them they have to. "This mother can't be bothered to wash her sons, but is happy to wash her daughters" is complete bullshit. Fucking learn to wash your boys, and show them as kids how to wash themselves.
 
For health reasons? No foreskin means ticks can't burrow under it. With forest dwelling parasites a constant work hazard, I am thankful for that at least.
Defying Science: study finds that people are still refusing to obey our every order and demand despite evidence that circumcised men are less likely to contract Lyme disease via tick-bite on the foreskin.
 
Circumcision both infantilises males by saying that they’re not hygienic to properly clean themselves while also enforcing that men don’t have to try and take care of themselves.

Kinda graphic but women get build-up in their labia and yet you never hear endorsements for procedures for cutting these organs off, unless it’s from some backward shithole African country. It’s ridiculous that the United States keeps male circumcision legal for non-medical reasons. Mutilating a newborn baby is absolutely grotesque.
 
For health reasons? No foreskin means ticks can't burrow under it. With forest dwelling parasites a constant work hazard, I am thankful for that at least.
Are you a caveman or some shit?

Also wow what a terrible day to have eyes :cryblood:
 
Why do christians and atheists get their children circumcised anyway?
Russian Christians and atheists don't. We even have a saying, "Either take off the cross or put on your pants", meaning "stop being a hypocritical/vacillating faggot and take a side" -- the literal meaning is that if you're circumcised, you must be a religious joo.
 
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