Heartbreaking video shows terrified autistic teen, 19, being goaded, stripped naked and restrained by NINE cops while begging them to 'listen to me' -

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Disturbing footage shows a terrified autistic 19-year-old desperately asking cops to listen to him before he repeatedly slammed his head on a cell door and died.

Isaiah Trammell, was taunted, belittled and threatened by nine guards as he begged for his medication at the Montgomery County Jail in Ohio. He was taken there after he was arrested following a mental health episode in March, 2023.

After fatally-injuring himself, he was taken to a hospital where he later died.

In surveillance videos obtained by The Columbus Dispatch, officers are seen telling Trammell he was 'ridiculous,' 'embarrassing' and 'acting like an a**.'

He was strapped into a restraint chair twice and threatened a third time with severe consequences if he did not calm down.

But Trammell responded to the threats by banging his head on the cell door and screaming: 'Let me out'

No-one listened as Trammell asked for his medications, a phone call and a blanket, according to the Dispatch.

Trammell was then rushed to hospital where he died three days later, with the coroner ruling it was suicide.

Trammell had been taken to jail after neighbors called police because he'd spent the night banging his head into a wall at his home.

He told officers banging his head on the wall was: 'The only way I know to get rid of the crazy in my head'.

Officers booked Trammell when they discovered he was wanted on an outstanding misdemeanor domestic violence warrant. He had allegedly been abusive to his sister and her husband.

Trammell's heartbroken mother Brandy Abner told The Columbus Patch that Trammel had a history of banging his head as a coping mechanism which often saw him end up in hospital.

She had not been aware of the outstanding warrant against her son.

'We always call when he begins to rage - it's a mental health call, not an "arrest me" call,' she said.

The 19-year-old told officers he suffered from ADHD and did not want to live.

Trammell was put on suicide watch, meaning he was trip-searched and isolated in a safe cell.

However, according to the Dispatch, he wasn't given a mattress, blanket or a suicide-resistant gown.

'He hated his body to be exposed and he kept telling them. He hated to be confined. Absolutely that would trigger him,' his mother said.

Officers allegedly kept him on the restraint chair for more than an hour, which is against Ohio standards for restraints.

The cops also continued to threaten to put Trammell into the chair a third time. The chair is supposed to be a last resort and used after providing medication.

When one officer said they couldn't use the restraint chair, another cop replied: 'Just put the chair in front of his fu***** cell so he stops. Give him a constant reminder.'

The Montgomery County Jail Coalition has called on the Ohio Department of Rehabilitation and Corrections (ODRC) to investigate Trammell's death.

'Isaiah would be alive today had he been treated with dignity and respect in the jail by staff concerned for his health and well-being. Instead of listening to his cries for medication he was laughed at and ignored. We need accountability for what happened to him,' said Yvonne Currington, retired nurse and Jail Coalition member.

The Sheriff's office told Dayton Daily News on Monday that ODRC's Bureau of Detention found no 'deficiencies' in how the sheriff's office handled his death.

'Medical and mental health providers at the jail provided treatment to Trammell from the time he was booked into jail until he was transported to a local hospital,' said the sheriff’s office spokeswoman Christine Bevins.

'Although people facing charges for violent crimes shouldn’t be released to society to deal with, our community needs a medical facility with a lockdown unit that can better handle those who are in crisis.'
 
Most of the people in this thread are saying that the man who died was retarded. He wasn't. He was autistic and severely mentally ill (most likely schizophrenic). There is a big difference. Either way, being retarded, autistic, and/or mentally ill - any of those three - does not in any way mean that you deserve to die. That kind of fascist, genocidal, and psychopathic mentality is what fueled the Nazi eugenics program, and it's something that also left a permanent black mark on America when we were sterilizing people deemed undesirable (which the Nazis just took one step further into euthanasia). I don't want to live in a world where the government gets to decide who deserves to live. If that society were to exist, many of you cheering on this man's death would inevitably find yourselves in the gas chambers as well. You are most definitely not ubermenschen, especially if you are posting here. In fact, I would estimate that more than 75% of the people on here have autism and/or some form of mental illness. People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones, as the old adage goes.

The frustrating thing is people are saying CARE ABOUT WHAT I SAY TO CARE ABOUT! and Don't care about what I say to not care about. This just leads a competition of justifying what is cared about or not and who counts and does not count. It's dumb and gay.

The other option of care about people because they're people is right there but it seems that most people would rather have someone to hate or shit on and justification to do so. So here we are.

Nothing is off limits just don't do illegal shit both on and offline

Well, duh. I call Null a faggot, even, but that is mostly a statement of "see, he isn't a faggot ooperator with a paper asshole, he has a thick skin and can take criticism" to say the Farms is a decent place, if only because there are no alternatives.

What I'm asking is how do people decide who to mock, and how they justify it. A lot of people would rather not even think about that because they know on some level it's punching down.

Yes, get your cope-laughs in, the world is a clown world hell hole. Whatever. My point is even if it's funny or cathartic to vent about, say, CWC's retard antics going so far off the rails and back we're still shocked, it's more useful to make an example of how the system really, really, really fails to deal with people who need to be managed. CWC is one example. The common violent nigger is another. Then there's deathfatties and the rat kings of the people of victimhood vis-a-vis their gender.

CWC could have been managed with some kind of intervention and had a much better life than this. Regardless, Chris needs his tard wrangler and seems to have one now. Admittedly the animated cabbage patch doll seen with him is a fun mystery.

The troubled 19 year old, who is now dead, clearly died in terror and was clearly failed by the system. No, nobody wants to hear someone scream or cause disturbances, but that should be something that comes long after we manage to not kill them and fuck up basic mental health support.

Common niggers who start fights, steal, damage shit, and sometimes seriously injure or kill people need to be managed somehow. Nobody really wants to touch on this, at all, except here, or in actual unironic wignat/racist spaces. Those people would have them exterminated. I'm advocating for something a bit more like adult day care. I'm not kidding. The alternative is spending more money on cleaning up their messes and the criminal justice system.

Deathfats are another example of society not managing a particular kind of retard. Not only are we doing this, we're facilitating them to sell the lies of fat cope (and use them to make money because they go through clothes and food so fast! This incurs a cost to everyone, even if it's just an early death. If they get any kind of medicare care, that isn't free either.

The rat kings of gender-victimhood tricking people into acting like obnoxious faggots are bad enough, and on top of it we're pushing pills and chops on kids. Thank fuck the mainstream is finally, finally dealing with this, at least overseas. Shame the Cass report is being ignored in the USA.

So he was arrested for violently assaulting two people?

How dare they take action against this poor poor autist!

I noyice the Urinalist that wrote this did not interview the sister that he violently attacked.

If someone is literally crazy, we tend to try to control their behavior and don't hold them criminally accountable as we would a sane person. We also tend to have allowances for people in altered mental states.

Hypothetically, if your mom was alive, and you cared for her, and I slapped her in the face, you'd attack me if you were able to. Any reasonable cop would not arrest, any reasonable DA would not prosecute, and any reasonable Judge would say "GTFO my courtroom you faggot." Any reasonable governor would pardon.

Strictly speaking, we don't have, in law, "RodgerDodger was rightfully pissed off and furious that a kiwi farmer slapped his mom and picked a fight because it is unreasonable to expect the average person to have perfect self control". We just have human beings who are supposed to grasp empathy and theory of mind.

If you would give yourself that pass, I think we can use a third brain cell and suggest that sperg who was having a breakdown, and was apparently schizophrenic, needed to be managed accordingly, and that it is certainly unacceptable to kill anyone through negligence.

I'm sure your mom is a wonderful person, so please forgive the hypothetical.
 
My empathy and compassion for crazies has completely run dry. Like someone else here said, seeing a crazy raving at the sky and harassing/threatening/assaulting other people once in a blue moon you can feel sympathy for. Seeing it every single day on every single street corner, you start to wish the trash took care of itself. I’m done with these useless burdens who only exist to make the lives of everyone around them a living hell.
 
Most of the people in this thread are saying that the man who died was retarded. He wasn't. He was autistic and severely mentally ill (most likely schizophrenic). There is a big difference. Either way, being retarded, autistic, and/or mentally ill - any of those three - does not in any way mean that you deserve to die. That kind of fascist, genocidal, and psychopathic mentality is what fueled the Nazi eugenics program, and it's something that also left a permanent black mark on America when we were sterilizing people deemed undesirable (which the Nazis just took one step further into euthanasia). I don't want to live in a world where the government gets to decide who deserves to live. If that society were to exist, many of you cheering on this man's death would inevitably find yourselves in the gas chambers as well. You are most definitely not ubermenschen, especially if you are posting here. In fact, I would estimate that more than 75% of the people on here have autism and/or some form of mental illness. People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones, as the old adage goes.
Most of the posters in this sub-forum are sick fucks who actually do subscribe to Nazi ideology. I can’t imagine what Hell this man was going through and having the last moments of your life be this is harrowing. Prison guards are even more retarded versions of cops. Many of them go into the field because they like having violent authority over people and they view it as righteous.
 
Most of the posters in this sub-forum are sick fucks who actually do subscribe to Nazi ideology. I can’t imagine what Hell this man was going through and having the last moments of your life be this is harrowing. Prison guards are even more retarded versions of cops. Many of them go into the field because they like having violent authority over people and they view it as righteous.
Oh, absolutely. And, the ironic thing is, the vast majority of the people calling themselves Nazis today would have been gassed by the actual Nazis. As the Dead Kennedys so eloquently put it: "In a real Fourth Reich, you'd be the first to go!"

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Prison guards are sadistic bullies who make actual cops look like saints by comparison. A little white ago, I read an article by an autistic man who was in prison and, sadly, his observations weren't even surprising:

Prison guards are the most fascist people on the face of the earth, and one of the defining characteristics of fascists is that fascists get off on abusing the weak. Anyone viewed as a weak link by prison staff will be subjected to endless extreme bullying and harassment. This was especially true at Butner FMC, a medical setting where staff would particularly target the inmates who were least capable of standing up for themselves, i.e. the ones with the most severe mental and/or physical disabilities. When I first arrived at Butner FMC, one of the very first things that I saw there was officers in the solitary confinement wing banging on inmates’ doors and yelling incredibly vulgar, hateful, and sexualized abuse at the severely mentally ill inmates in isolation. That, of course, foretoken my entire hellish experience there. Because I have autism, prison staff have always viewed me as easy prey, and have targeted me accordingly. For example, at one point, two high-ranking food service officers at Terre Haute FCI spent several weeks trying to convince me that I had been hired as the food service clerk (a job that, in reality, doesn’t even exist). They even went so far as to actually take me into the warehouse one day and have me fill out some paperwork like I was a real secretary. They did all of this so that they could then pull the rug out from under me and laugh at me. In this particular case, however, the joke was on them, because I did not even really care, nor did I particularly want that job anyways. But this is, nevertheless, a typical example of the sadistic, predatory mindset of the people who work in America’s prisons, paralleling the sadistic, predatory mindset of the inmates (who, at the very least, don’t have the same kind of unlimited power).

There is almost no regulation or oversight of prison staff, and they can get away with pretty much anything. On top of that, there is no real screening of them either, so most prison guards are just random scum off of the street. They are the last people on the planet who should ever be tasked with handling people undergoing mental health crises. When you have sadistic, broken, and miserable bullies - who have no oversight whatsoever and nobody holding them accountable for anything that they do - tasked with looking after highly vulnerable people who aren't mentally sound enough to take care of themselves, then of course this sort of thing is going to keep happening over and over again.

Prison is the absolute worst of human nature distilled down to its purest, most unadulterated form. Anyone even remotely familiar with the prison system is a misanthrope, and for good reason.
 
Most of the posters in this sub-forum are sick fucks who actually do subscribe to Nazi ideology. I can’t imagine what Hell this man was going through and having the last moments of your life be this is harrowing. Prison guards are even more retarded versions of cops. Many of them go into the field because they like having violent authority over people and they view it as righteous.

Repeating something enough times doesn't make it true, no matter how much you want it to be.

Even if you do basically keep trying to meme it into being by repeating the same shit w/o any real proof.

Go take your hermetic bullshit elsewhere, large amounts of us have seen "repeat it til people say it's true" shit enough times and can see right through your dumb shit.

(I remember when the cat ladies took over something awful and used the same trick to paint GBS as "full of right wing nazis!")
 
Prison is the absolute worst of human nature distilled down to its purest, most unadulterated form.

Imprisonment is among the worst sins of humanity.

Most of the posters in this sub-forum are sick fucks who actually do subscribe to Nazi ideology.

Can you not use someone else's suffering as a way to take pot shots at people? I would agree with you that people here are often mistaken or misguided, or even shitty, and I would agree with you that the jail and the COs there bumble-fucked so bad it got a 19 year old killed, I can't really tolerate "I'm good because I care about something you don't care about, my pet issue, btw ur a nazi" type shit, for fuck's sake.

Physician, heal thyself. You live up to the title I gave you, and you wear it like a point of pride.
 
was clearly failed by the system

No, he was failed by his own genes that created a person who responded to stress by bashing his head into the wall.

As sad as it is, he was doomed from day one to die in some manner of violence and terror because his own brain didn't work.

And it NEVER would have.

I'm tired of the amorphous "system" being blamed for things like this.

We've spent almost 90 years at this point building "the system" and it HAS failed... it's failed to even BE a system, it's just a huge blob of bureaucracy and hollow feel-good positioning statements that have wasted untold billions of dollars and millions of lives to only end up back at square one where they say they'll somehow do better tomorrow if only they had a few billion more and we were a bit nicer to the people whose brains are so fucked up they willingly bash their heads against walls.

If this guy was failed by the "system"? So was I. "The System" has failed EVERYONE. Including innocent old ladies whose last moments on Earth were sheer terror as a subway train ran them down after a random nut job pushed her off the platform for being a Devil-in-disguise (and never went to prison for it).

The System isn't the problem, it's the people who worship the concept of what the ideal System could be, even while v1.0 of The System produces worse outcomes than had we done nothing at all.

Imprisonment is among the worst sins of humanity.
Letting threats to innocents roam the streets because punishment through confinement might hurt their feelings isn't a better outcome.

Some people DESERVE prison for what they've done and will do if NOT there.


I know that's at odds with the lofty ideals of those who still think Utopia is possible with enough general compassion and cooperation, but it's the truth.

Make grand proclamations on the finer points of ideal human behavior in one hand, shit in the other, you know which one is going to fill up first.
 
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No, he was failed by his own genes that created a person who responded to stress by bashing his head into the wall.

As sad as it is, he was doomed from day one to die in some manner of violence and terror because his own brain didn't work.

And it NEVER would have.

I'm tired of the amorphous "system" being blamed for things like this.

We've spent almost 90 years at this point building "the system" and it HAS failed... it's failed to even BE a system, it's just a huge blob of bureaucracy and hollow feel-good positioning statements that have wasted untold billions of dollars and millions of lives to only end up back at square one where they say they'll somehow do better tomorrow if only they had a few billion more and we were a bit nicer to the people whose brains are so fucked up they willingly bash their heads against walls.

If this guy was failed by the "system"? So was I. "The System" has failed EVERYONE. Including innocent old ladies whose last moments on Earth were sheer terror as a subway train ran them down after a random nut job pushed her off the platform for being a Devil-in-disguise (and never went to prison for it).

The System isn't the problem, it's the people who worship the concept of what the ideal System could be, even while v1.0 of The System produces worse outcomes than had we done nothing at all.

Please illustrate the harm this person has caused, in detail, and make a case that you think he will actually harm others.

Letting threats to innocents roam the streets because punishments hurt their feelings isn't a better outcome.

Some people DESERVE prison for what they've done and will do if NOT there.


I know that's at odds with the lofty ideals of those who still think Utopia is possible with enough general compassion and cooperation, but it's the truth.

Make grand proclamations on the finer points of ideal human behavior in one hand, shit in the other, you know which one is going to fill up first.

Please state your case for the morality of prison as it exists in lieu of humane institutionalization.

If you wish to make it such that "it's okay to hurt people who have bad genes" explain why it's okay for a system you say is a failure should hurt people but individuals cannot hurt others.
 
And this is why abortion should be legal. People with a genetic predisposition of severe mental illnesses should not be having children, however due to circumstances these people continue to come into the world, in which case they should receive counseling as soon as possible, or if it’s a more severe illness, institutionalized or be living in a group home.
 
And this is why abortion should be legal. People with a genetic predisposition of severe mental illnesses should not be having children, however due to circumstances these people continue to come into the world, in which case they should receive counseling as soon as possible, or if it’s a more severe illness, institutionalized or be living in a group home.

Nah, state euthanasia.
 
Please illustrate the harm this person has caused, in detail, and make a case that you think he will actually harm others.
Had an outstanding warrant for domestic violence.

Not traffic offenses

Not playing music too loud

Violence that led to a court issuing a warrant.

Please state your case for the morality of prison as it exists in lieu of humane institutionalization.
I just did, it's not moral to let a person who is a threat to innocent life (I.E. mentally unwell) walk around freely for the sake of their pride, or yours. And either way, you're confined. I see no fundamental difference between being locked in a cell and locked in a hospital room.

If you wish to make it such that "it's okay to hurt people who have bad genes"
I never said it's okay to hurt people with bad genes, it's just a fool's errand to try and save them. I don't think you should euthanize a person who can't swim, but, after you find him thrashing in a lake for the 12th time? You're gonna naturally find it hard to throw him a rope.
explain why it's okay for a system you say is a failure should hurt people but individuals cannot hurt others.

I'm afraid I can't parse this.
 
Move to Canada.

Nice deflection. Your point that you should identify and prevent the birth of such people isn't elective abortion, it's eugenics.

So, face up to it, or admit you're grasping at literal eugenics as an excuse to make a point about yourself and just using other things as instruments to that end.
 
Had an outstanding warrant for domestic violence.

Not traffic offenses

Not playing music too loud

Violence that led to a court issuing a warrant.


I just did, it's not moral to let a person who is a threat to innocent life (I.E. mentally unwell) walk around freely for the sake of their pride, or yours. And either way, you're confined. I see no fundamental difference between being locked in a cell and locked in a hospital room.


I never said it's okay to hurt people with bad genes, it's just a fool's errand to try and save them. I don't think you should euthanize a person who can't swim, but, after you find him thrashing in a lake for the 12th time? You're gonna naturally find it hard to throw him a rope.


I'm afraid I can't parse this.

1) DV assault, battery, DV What? You're also saying a warrant justifies killing or hurting people, he wasn't even convicted.

2) Define a threat to life and show how a DV warrant is itself proof of being so deadly. Nobody cares about anyone's pride here.

3) The current prison system is basically "let's do worse to them than they'd do left to their devices to others." That's bullshit. If you want to push for, say, adult daycare they can't leave, like a Nordic system, I'd be with you.

4) This ties into #3. It's weird to say a system fails, then say the system should hurt people.
 
Nice deflection. Your point that you should identify and prevent the birth of such people isn't elective abortion, it's eugenics.

So, face up to it, or admit you're grasping at literal eugenics as an excuse to make a point about yourself and just using other things as instruments to that end.
And state-mandated euthanasia isn’t eugenics how…?
 
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