Grace Lavery / Joseph Lavery & Daniel M. Lavery / Mallory Ortberg - "Straight with extra steps" couple trooning out to avoid "dwindling into mere heterosexuality"

[Dr. Butt]

Eh, some of us have tried the big city / "neighbors to the top, bottom, the sides, and several buildings surrounding you just like that" thang....and hated it. (Raises hand.)

I get how compact cities are "better" in some respects. It makes sense on paper, for efficiency, and all that.

I still want my yard with the domesticated birds running around back and a micro hobby farm, thanks. I'm happier here than in a metroplex fartbox, even one with a great view and lots of "amenities".

It's not about size or density or how big your house is, it's about how easily the population of the place can move about. This lansing place sounds like they've just plain fucked that up.

 

[AirdropShitposts]

I understand that's the physical reality of the place but it's very stupid to build places like that. Don't take it as a personal attack on your moral fibre if people don't like the shitty building plan that's turned a pretty countryside into some kind of...all-day driving club.

That's the entire thing though, this isn't some plan. There's no intelligent designer.

Also, it wasn't countryside, it was farms. That's what most of the Midwest was. And Lansing Metro isn't "Lansing" it's probably like 30 overlapping jurisdictions. Few flyover cities get to just annex whatever they want.

I wasn't saying "get it" as some moral claim, I meant it more literally like they'll assume there's some subway to hop on in every city.

 

[Paul Enwerdhoeven]

She's definitely resentful of her siblings for siding with her parents or whatever. But also a lot of the sibling pairs she's talking about are examples of why polyamorous families kept falling apart in Genesis, with wives competing for the husband's affection via the kids, passing on conflicting resentments and values. She's recreated that situation with Joe and Lily and doesn't realize the ticking timebomb she's in.

Mallory doesn't have children of her own with Joe so she's more like a concubine or eunuch slave than a rival wife

 

[Dr. Butt]

I meant it more literally like they'll assume there's some subway to hop on in every city.

Right, and the fact there's not is a problem, withouth having to be some "war on cars" or "citycuck" thing. Rural England and Poland weren't "planned" and yet it's possible to live anywhere in those countries with no car, even if you're retarded.

 

[everybody in Portugal]

Right, and the fact there's not is a problem, withouth having to be some "war on cars" or "citycuck" thing. Rural England and Poland weren't "planned" and yet it's possible to live anywhere in those countries with no car, even if you're retarded.

Possible ≠ easy though. There's a reason most rural kids get a car and a provisional license at 16 in the sticks in the UK. Living close to the only shop for ten miles might be doable but IME it's the adults and often blow-ins that love it, and all the born-and-bred local teenagers fucking loathe it and get wheels asap so they can get somewhere with a pulse when the urge strikes them. There is almost always a bus service of some kind, but it'll often cease services by 8pm and getting anywhere bigger or more lively than the nearest small town often necessitates taking several, if you or your mates don't have a souped-up Golf to tear around in.

Granted, Lansing doesn't look like a tiny, isolated village by any means, but compared to NYC it's the absolute sticks and Joe will feel like he's suffocating in a cultural desert after a few months. It's going to be glorious for all of us, especially if he can't keep his big jowly trap shut and pisses off the locals with his snobbery and trashing the place online. I can't wait.

 

[monstrous bubo]

Joe is back tweeting out his good reviews, a sweet remembrance of a dead friend, and of course at least one stupid thing


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My initial thought was, „Why, he’s a lady and could beat up his beloved husband, so clearly he don’t need no protection from no man.” But then I reflected on that exquisite pain point for transfolx, the pronoun. „Their own protection”, he says, not „our own protection”. Hmmm… with anyone else I would assume inartful wording, but with such a brilliant and careful scholar every word has weight, like his own flaccid penis in his hand

 

[Autistic Nonetheless]

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A slight feminism sperg:
It was always unfortunate when early 20’th century feminists insisted (if only as a comfortable political lie) that men and women were all but physically identical. The result of this idea was the sexual revolution of the mid 60’s, with it's free love and open sex, that even advocates eventually had to admit effected women more then men.

Then nu-feminism arrived and took those distinctions for granted, in fact it made them part of the mission. Ofcourse men and women were different. If they weren't then how could you be born in the wrong body?

Joe im sure prides himself as a free thinker, and so needs neither ideology. He just needs to be sassy in Twitter.

 

[Haram-Habibi]

Rural England and Poland weren't "planned" and yet it's possible to live anywhere in those countries with no car, even if you're retarded.

Population density of the UK - 279 people per square kilometer
Population density of Poland - 122.5 people per square kilometer

Population density of the US - 37 people per square kilometer
Population density of Canada - less than 4.5 people per square kilometer

You *do* realize that this could be a factor as to why things are so spread out in North America, right??? We got the space, generally, and we're gonna use it. Expecting to have a similar public transportation system, when the population is so relatively small in regards to density is, well....kinda retarded (and I say that with no disrespect, it just makes the economics of the thing much, much more difficult.). Outside of a few large cities that are densely packed, it doesn't make any sense.

Lansing's not, and never has been, one of those cities. If Joe (and maybe Mallory) don't know how to drive, and don't have access to a car, they're gonna be screwed.

Which is positively delightful for us.........

 

[cherrysour]

*shudder* I don't know why I find him so repulsive, but god, he is.

Late, but I’ve given this some thought because I too am repulsed at a visceral level. It’s maybe a combination of two things: (1) visible effects of estrogen (viz. dark undereye circles, droopy everything, fat) and (2) duck lips/pout. I think the lizard section of my brain fires off “AVOID” signals because it registers him as a diseased male making sex faces.

 

[Zemblan Physics]

Late, but I’ve given this some thought because I too am repulsed at a visceral level. It’s maybe a combination of two things: (1) visible effects of estrogen (viz. dark undereye circles, droopy everything, fat) and (2) duck lips/pout. I think the lizard section of my brain fires off “AVOID” signals because it registers him as a diseased male making sex faces

This, but Joe in the last pic.

 

[Dr. Butt]

Population density of Canada - less than 4.5 people per square kilometer

I'll stop after this because derail, but shitloads of Canadians don't even get driver's licences. It's a weirdly non car-mandatory place for a country with so few people. Southern Ontario is so full of people who don't drive that I don't even know why there's so much traffic. It's a much weirder country than I was led to believe.

 

[Diana Moon Glampers]

I'll stop after this because derail, but shitloads of Canadians don't even get driver's licences. It's a weirdly non car-mandatory place for a country with so few people. Southern Ontario is so full of people who don't drive that I don't even know why there's so much traffic. It's a much weirder country than I was led to believe.

It's because there's only one road in Canada (they call it the only road), and 70% of the population lives below this line:



Southern Ontario has 86 people per square kilometer, putting its population density on par with the nation of Spain (which also has pretty great transit!).

 

[Ninon42]

I take a particular interest in the personal stories of individual women and how the politics and ideas of their era could wreck havoc on their lives and others. Obviously the extreme examples tend to be the ones documented or written about. I have Unity Mitford’s biography right next to “ Diana Oughton Making of a Terrorist”. Reading these types of book in my teens and 20’s was an invaluable education.

Another interesting book in that vein is Shoot the Women First by Eileen MacDonald. It talks about various female terrorists. The Nympho and Other Maniacs by Irving Wallace covers a great many fascinating women in history and may have partially inspired my own user name.

Some of us suspected the ooooing and aaaahing was actually snide, but maybe not.

Joe vs Midwest Nice is going to be wonderful. The polycule puzzling over a salad made of equal parts cheese and mayo at a potluck, visiting Menards for the first time or perhaps bringing the baby to a pick-your-own apple orchard in the fall for a hayride in their finest designer threads.

 

[AirdropShitposts]

Joe is back tweeting out his good reviews, a sweet remembrance of a dead friend, and of course at least one stupid thing

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My initial thought was, „Why, he’s a lady and could beat up his beloved husband, so clearly he don’t need no protection from no man.” But then I reflected on that exquisite pain point for transfolx, the pronoun. „Their own protection”, he says, not „our own protection”. Hmmm… with anyone else I would assume inartful wording, but with such a brilliant and careful scholar every word has weight, like his own flaccid penis in his hand

Uh, who is saying they need to be "sequestered in secret toilets"? Remember when we yelling at all the chuds about how women need their own safe spaces like internet forums or comment sections or whatever we were on about? Was that actually a demand that women and girls need to be sequestered in secret private forums?

 

[Uncle Tom's Condo]

Joe vs Midwest Nice is going to be wonderful. The polycule puzzling over a salad made of equal parts cheese and mayo at a potluck, visiting Menards for the first time or perhaps bringing the baby to a pick-your-own apple orchard in the fall for a hayride in their finest designer threads.

The polite midwesterners will smile and nod at his degenerate family while on the hayride. Later on that night, one of the guys will be standing around a bonfire with a Founder's in his hand and laugh his ass off while recounting the day's events to his buddies. The wife of the guy telling the tale will nod sadly and get very curious about her kid's first grade curriculum.

 

[Bookwork]

If only Richard Grant would make Withnail & I & Danny the Nanny.

 

[Dr. Butt]

Joe vs Midwest Nice is going to be wonderful. The polycule puzzling over a salad made of equal parts cheese and mayo at a potluck, visiting Menards for the first time or perhaps bringing the baby to a pick-your-own apple orchard in the fall for a hayride in their finest designer threads.

This whole "Midwest Nice" "Minnesota Nice" thing just sounds like what we call passive aggression, no? You'll hear the same shit from suburban Japanese ladies or western Australian women.

 

[AMHOLIO]

This whole "Midwest Nice" "Minnesota Nice" thing just sounds like what we call passive aggression, no? You'll hear the same shit from suburban Japanese ladies or western Australian women.

Passive aggresisve evolves in many forms. Hunans are more similar than one expects.

 

[Rich Evans Simp]

I wouldn’t call “being civil and polite to strangers, even ones I think are bad” passive aggression. What do you want them to do, sneer and hiss at the AGP tranny and his handmaidens? Passive aggression is asking the obvious MTF tranny with a baby which hospital he gave birth at.

 

[Larry David's Opera Cape]

"Minnesota nice" (which really applies to the whole upper midwest) is just a polite way of saying most of the people there are like this:



They are "nice" but seething, and also too passive to take action when necessary. Thus their capital being the first example made by the rapefugees and the Floydists.

They got this from the Scandinavians.