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The worst part is they keep using A New Hope as the template for this belief even though Lucas himself changed his mind on it within a couple years. If everyone could use the Force, Luke would've never been the last Jedi. It's that simple.
Not necessarily. By way of analogy, remember the Wudan martial arts from Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon: anyone could technically learn it, but the work required to master it put it beyond the practical reach of most people. Likewise, it's reasonable to assume that there were other martial arts schools out there- anyone technically can learn martial arts, but it would still be possible to be "the last Wudan monk" if that particular school came to the brink of extinction.

OFC that would have meant giving the Jedi a more distinct religious/philosophical identity beyond Team Good Guy. And it also would have relied on writers not doing what they've absolutely done, making Force powers trivially accessible through even the most perfunctory training.
 
How did baras stay powerful if he was so obese
Midiclorians in his fat tissue, obviously.
A fire in space.

They are ignoring everything else with this POS, why not physics?
This is Star Wars sir, space works differently here.
the whole setting just completely misunderstands Star Wars and the Jedi. For one, the Jedi Order acts more like the Green Lantern Corps than anything else.

There's also this weird insistence on exotic species being members whether it makes sense or not.
Tales of the Jedi (not the series) did the exotic species thing much better, since there were several Jedi of very exotic species with the mentor of one particular protagonist being Master Thon, who is basically a dinosaur.
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As to how the Jedi act I imagine that it's a result of the writers not taking inspiration from the same places as Lucas, in his work they are very much based on samurai films and as such are often stoic to a fault and dedicated to their code, whereas the modern comic writer who likely isn't big into that thing would be basing them on capeshit and as such they turn them into larger than life cartoon characters which puts them at odds with how Lucas portrayed them in the films.
the show retcons the force to the point you don't have to be born with it
I prefer that interpretation of the Force, but I also think that unless you have somebody who can actually teach you how to use it then you're not going to develop anything unless you deliberately put dedicate your life to the pursuit of enlightenment, that if you spend your days meditating on the nature of the universe and take a disciple then they, or more likely their disciple, will learn how to access the Force and thus be able to use this knowledge to teach their own students how to access it for themselves.
 
What do you guys think of dave filoni and his work on star wars. For me I used to like the clone wars a lot as a kid but as I have grown older I have seen that it messed up a lot of old canon.
I like Mandalorian, it's pretty much the only thing left Star Wars-wise (outside of supplement material like games) that I give a shit about.
 
Tales of the Jedi (not the series) did the exotic species thing much better, since there were several Jedi of very exotic species with the mentor of one particular protagonist being Master Thon, who is basically a dinosaur.
Is that Nemesis the Warlock as a Jedi?
I only watched it because a friend of mine is a reviewer and sees shit early all the time and he told me probably almost 2 months back that essentially the show retcons the force to the point you don't have to be born with it, anyone can become a force user with studying, and that the chosen one prophecy is something that happens every 100 years and these women were the previous Anakins or some shit and I didn't realize that shit was coming in the third episode and not the first two so I watched it because I had to see them do that, those are the biggest fuck yous possible to star wars as a series and I was kinda excited to see them totally run it into the ground in one show. my friend doesn't even particularly like star wars but has seen it and he called me and was like dude I'm under NDA so don't tell anyone this but people are going to shit a brick when they watch this new star wars show and told me that and he's never bullshitted me before so I was ready for it.
Oh boy, they actually went and made Anakin into a stunning and brave black woman by... reincarnating him? Damn, good one Disney!
 
Nope.

Take it as someone who's kept up with the novels and comics since the 2014 continuity relaunch; the villains are bog-standard rubbish that fucking Power Rangers villains could run circles around. Especially High Republic, whose chief antagonists consist of Sentient Asparagus called the "Drengir", and generic Space Vikings called the "Nihil".

In other words, shit you wouldn't even bother remembering literal seconds after you were done reading about them.
I suspected as much. The alien species that came from Disney Star Wars looked like generic shit, I can't even remember a unique alien character in Episode 7.
 
Especially High Republic, whose chief antagonists consist of Sentient Asparagus called the "Drengir", and generic Space Vikings called the "Nihil".
That were two very underwhelming wookiepedia entries to skim through.
The idea of a galaxy-wide hyperspace disaster sounds kinda interesting though, but something tells me it's much more boring in the books as I imagine it.
 
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the cast includes such brilliant characters as: bitchy angsty evil nigger, her twin nice sweet pure negro, just trinity from the matrix as trinity, a gameboy color, a wimpy white jedi who sits in a room for 10 years silently then commits suicide, jedi with stupid haircut, cool old guy korean jedi, green woman with a stick up her ass, and cat girl who says and adds absolutely nothing to the plot.

Sounds like they got Justin Roiland to write this shit.

the Jedi Order acts more like the Green Lantern Corps than anything

Nah, that would be DC.

Try the X-Men and being force-sensitive a metaphor for queerness.

There's also this weird insistence on exotic species being members whether it makes sense or not. Like that rock thing, which they seemed really impressed by.

Now we are reaching Excel Saga territory.

people are going to shit a brick when they watch this new star wars

Aww! That's very sweet to think it's going to have more than an ever shrinking little crowd of uninvested casual viewers.

did Disney introduced an interesting villain group like the Yuuzhan Vong when they acquired Star Wars?

The Wuhan what? No, no... You see, I don't know what those are but sounds like chinky goobleddygook and at Lucasfilm we are definitely not portraying negatively a proud and ancient non-white culture. Especially not the chinks.

Sentient Asparagus called the "Drengir"

Now you bitches are starting to get me interested in Star Wars again.
 
I finally understood why some people would rather a franchise to stop rather than trying to continue with other people and works.

Now I feel really grateful when my favorite little franchise of 20 years old can release content that is true to its soul rather than a whore cosplaying as the real thing.

Star wars by disney is a corpse parading as a still living person and people being fooled by liters of perfurm to mask the putrid smell that it exhales. And you have to watch idiots being fooled by the walking carcass and the profiteers of such monstruosity smiling alongside it
 
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I tried the new free to play Star Wars game and besides seeing a major red flag that fucking Zynga was one of the publishers on boot, but I was straight up able to get through the tutorial by doing nothing but watch the Jawa character mindlessly blast away at the AI opponents they threw out to make you follow the tutorial, but I got to see the quality AI they made for it too for when the game ends up dying in a couple months.



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I tried the new free to play Star Wars game and besides seeing a major red flag that fucking Zynga was one of the publishers on boot, but I was straight up able to get through the tutorial by doing nothing but watch the Jawa character mindlessly blast away at the AI opponents they threw out to make you follow the tutorial, but I got to see the quality AI they made for it too for when the game ends up dying in a couple months.


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Do you actually remember when Star Wars actually used to have good games? Beating a dead horse but...
 
The problem with alien Jedi isn't alien Jedi, it is that all the alien Jedi in disney wars are forgettable, ugly and have nothing unique.
There's very few of the iconic, established aliens its just ugly vaguely lizardly creature. No Duros, barely any twileks, no deliberate color schemes or stand-out designs. its all just melted crayons.
Not even lazy werewolf masks.

I hate the idea that anyone can use the Force, its one of those things that goes against the old canon hard. Its totally ok to be a hero without the Force, look at Han Solo and Chewbacca. Total badasses without needing hokey religious magic.
Hard disagree. The Force being religious magic was one of the best elements from A New Hope, especially in an era when fantasy as a genre had been incredibly secular. The idea that it’s something you have only because you’re special is retarded and only was reinforced by the extended universe books (which have more problems than not) and the prequel trilogy (i.e. Midochlorians). Even from a purely storytelling point of view, giving your main character audience surrogate abilities that he had to work for is much more effective than making him arbitrarily special.

@Krokodil Overdose has it right with the Wuxia: there is a fine line between "Only special, blessed snowflakes can ever have these powers" and "I did a 5 minute training montage, I'm ready to take on the top master in this field".
ANH threaded that needle perfectly (helped by low-level of detail): anyone could use/feel the force with the right training & mind set, but there were individuals with a natural gift and inclination. Just being strong with the force wasn't enough, and the implication was anyone could unfuck their mind and get strong with the force, it'd just be harder than if they were innately strong with the force.

The issue with The Force ever since Disney took over isn't that anyone can use the force, its that literally anyone can be a force master better than those with years of dedicated training with the slightest plot contrivance and coffee talk with someone who knows what they're on about, and the often the chat over the coffee isn't needed as long as they female and/or gay.

Because these literal nigger-faggots don't get that Luke getting a 3 hour training sesh with Obi worked because all he was able to do after was have super aim, and that was with SpaceJesus helping guide the stick. He wasn't force choking dudes or out-force dueling Vader. They also don't get that Luke, doing his stupid teen stunts while joyriding in his Skyhopper, had been training with the force with years he just never knew that's what he was doing.
Luke got his shit utterly schooled the first time he stepped to Vader, even after his time with Yoda, and Vader was going easy on him. He needed years of training to be able to fight Vader, and even then he only was able to fight him because Vader's was too busy fighting his own conflicting emotions to properly use the force. Contast with the gay shit that was Rey.

Current Disney writers are Marvel-brained. None of the comic book characters are supposed to need to work or train to have their cool superhero powers because its a lazy "I'm already perfect, everyone else sucks" wish fulfillment for angsty teens. But they forget that one of the reason the Xmen "hit puberty, turn gay mutant" works for interesting stories was that everyone's power had huge draw back that required mastering; so it doesn't matter that Iceman got magic powers doing nothing because the interesting struggle is in how he has to work hard at not freezing everything and everyone around him.
The force is the complete inversion of that - no downsides to being able to use cool force power, you just have to put in the effort to train them, and it requires constant training and vigilance to maintain that ability and connection. And that is why not everyone is a Jedi.
But this completely unworkable for niggers and trannies - the idea you have to keep putting in effort?! Why are you racist, transphobe?


A fire in space.

They are ignoring everything else with this POS, why not physics?
Well, if there isn't air & gravity, how will you be able to ride spacehorses along the hull? Checkmate, racist.

I fully expect the David cage game to unironically be best thing set in the continuity.
That game was canceled if I remember right. So since it will never exist, you are 100% correct.
 
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Contast with the gay shit that was Rey.
The Canon explanation for Rey was that she parasitized Kylo's powers, Chrollo Lucifer style. Which actually could have made for a hell of a plot twist if they'd actually used it. Imagine: Rey gets these amazing powers with zero training because she's so awesome, zero work required, yay! Then at the climax of Episode 8, Kyle or Snoke figures out the connection that she's using and severs it at a crucial moment, completely brutalized her/the Rebellion. Everything falls apart as she's suddenly completely out if her depth. How's that for a second act low point?
 
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