Trainwreck The Empathic Nutritionist / Empathic Mamahood / Robyn Grogitsky-Ramirez / Luna Elva Ramirez / Glenn Ramirez / Atlas Glenn Standford Ramirez - Eyefucking Sociopath Selfie Addict Mother and Closeted Gymrat Pothead Father who use Instagram to Parade their Homemade Homunculus Tard Baby Created by their Refusal to Follow any Medical Oversights

[Bakarina]

I remember… I just want to see it in action I guess. Like badly?

Oh he’s beginning to give Robyn for his money already. Go off, little king. Go off.
She’s unprepared as fuck for what she’s about to experience.
Also acorn is the strangest looking baby he reminds me of a troll

Robyn’s life is.. I won’t lie. Depressing? She’s very much a narcissist. I don’t like the woman at all. Her situation is very much in her fault… just it’s weirdly depressing to know that what we see on IG is her every day. she basically doesn’t leave the house and people don’t come over. When she does she posts it. She did have a friend (I think it may have actually been her sister) over a few pages back.
I’m hoping we are wrong. that she does do stuff and leave the house…
again I don’t like her. Somehow, still. I am worried about her having a mental break considering she’s upgraded from a potato, a toddler and a newborn. Two out of 3 kids having actual brains.
Hopefully she reaches out. At least a caretaker to help with potato maintaining. Something. Idk rainbows. Lots of them.

People have snapped with seemingly less going on and all of the kids are small enough where they wouldn't be able to put up much of a fight against her in a worse case scenario. She's home alone most days with a gaggle of dependant children, most people would probably be overwhelmed in her shoes (especially without assistance from anyone like family).

 

[The Judean People's Front]

he reminds me of a troll

Ahhhhh thank you. I knew he reminded me of something. That's exactly it.

Also, for those talking about how grim the Globyn's life is - I'm still crossing my fingers that Gymbrah doesn't pull a Chris Watts. Another poster mentioned the similarities between the Globyns and the Watts and I can't ever get it out of my head whenever I check in here.

 

[Ms. Marple]

I think she gets help from family, just doesn’t show it on social media because it would mess up her image of empathic mama goddess. Like with everything else, her mama hood is performative and I wouldn’t be surprised if she had daily meltdowns.

 

[Berserker Armor]

I think she gets help from family, just doesn’t show it on social media because it would mess up her image of empathic mama goddess. Like with everything else, her mama hood is performative and I wouldn’t be surprised if she had daily meltdowns.

I hope you are right. Really do.

 

[Mauve Olive]

Having recently given birth myself, quite a bit of what Robyn talks about in regards to pregnancy, birth & parenting is far from 'woo' or 'out there', imho. There's stuff she talks about/shares that were mentioned to me by various NHS midwives, in ante-natal groups and I've read in #1 best seller maternity books. For example, the birthing swing was shown in a graphic of birthing positions graphic on my local baby & children's hospital's FB page.

Of course there's a lot of absolute batshit thrown in like the Healy. But a lot of people in the thread seem to think that everything she posts is totally bonkers or out there when in fact it's pretty mainstream. Which is why I find her so interesting and funny - she presents herself as this holistic hippie crunchy mother when a lot of what she does isn't special or controversial anymore, lol

 

[The Judean People's Front]

she presents herself as this holistic hippie crunchy mother when a lot of what she does isn't special or controversial anymore, lol

She gave birth at home, unassisted.

She thinks ultrasounds cook babies.

She says she met her newborn son on the astral plane where he told her to name him the worst damn name.

I am not totally sure what point you're trying to make; whether birth slings are mainstream is kinda irrelevant.

 

[Naenia Ness]

Having recently given birth myself, quite a bit of what Robyn talks about in regards to pregnancy, birth & parenting is far from 'woo' or 'out there', imho. There's stuff she talks about/shares that were mentioned to me by various NHS midwives, in ante-natal groups and I've read in #1 best seller maternity books. For example, the birthing swing was shown in a graphic of birthing positions graphic on my local baby & children's hospital's FB page.

Of course there's a lot of absolute batshit thrown in like the Healy. But a lot of people in the thread seem to think that everything she posts is totally bonkers or out there when in fact it's pretty mainstream. Which is why I find her so interesting and funny - she presents herself as this holistic hippie crunchy mother when a lot of what she does isn't special or controversial anymore, lol

While I find the idea of a birthing swing really fucking weird, personally I found it horrifying here mostly because she was going on and on about how she was doing a solo birth.

Imagine how that could go so wrong so quick, especially if it was going to be hung from that hook on the ceiling in the bathroom we saw in one of the pre Oak birth pictures.

Most of the horror (at least for me) is the fact that she's doing all this independently with almost no medical intervention in sight. It's like the ultimate middle finger to her nurse mother, which is frightening to say the least.

Yeah, there's some stuff she pushes that is considered mainstream, but it's got that fucked up twist to it that makes it just err on the side of "holy fuck woman what the fuck are you doing?!?"

 

[Mauve Olive]

I am not totally sure what point you're trying to make; whether birth slings are mainstream is kinda irrelevant.

Mostly that so much of what she does is performative. She likes to present as being against the mainstream and being above others by pushing the boundaries - with her weird cooking, Healy, home births without medical professionals, astral spirit babies etc.

But a lot of what she actually does is painfully normal. Hypnobirthing, affirmations on the wall, birthing sling, disposable nappies, lots of screen time for Atlas, baby wearing, supermarket clothes for the kids... None of it is that crunchy.

 

[everybody in Portugal]

disposable nappies, lots of screen time for Atlas, baby wearing, supermarket clothes for the kids

Forgive me if I've missed it but I keep quite a close eye on the thread and I don't recall anyone saying any of this isn't normal? Quite often people point out the discrepancy in her 'normie' parenting habits and the way that she presents, in fact. The bits people are dunking on as woo or loony or otherwise remarkable usually are woo or loony or otherwise somehow remarkable; see the astral plane baby predictions, the water frequency nonsense, the total lack of medical oversight, the spiritual/telepathic communication with Buna, &c.

The rest of the dunking is all about how she's the basic bitch nUtRiToNiSt who clearly eats fast food thrice a week and puts a big-ass TV in her three year old's room in lieu of enriching him in any way personally and whatever.

Also, the NHS will refer to you as a 'birthing person' and a 'chest feeder' if you live in a pozzed trust's catchment area and show up with a child hanging half-out of your vagoo so I'm not sure that they're a great bastion of sanity anymore, even if they're still the closest thing the Yoo Kay has to a unifying religion anymore.

 

[Barbarella]

She thinks she’s earth mama and presents herself as such, but she’s actually just ignorant. Sure, a lot of what she does is mainstream, and mainstream enough that it’s been done for 50 years. On the other hand, she so ignorant about it she thinks she’s revolutionary. Hippies carried babies in slings.

Of course, I’m not talking about her unassisted home births which is some psychological trauma thing involving Luna.

I’m talking about her ignorance in saying stuff like Atlas is at the stage where he insists on wearing the same cloths day after day. Sure, that’s a phase - with a well-known trick that just about every kid at this stage falls for: choices. “Do you want to wear red or blue today? Do you want sharks or dinosaurs?” The stage is the beginning of asserting preferences and independence so you let them do that. “No, we don’t wear dirty clothes but today you can choose your truck shirt or your baseball shirt. Which one?” That’s being a mother who understands her children. You teach them we aren’t dirty but give them as much freedom as possible within rules. And that’s parenting all the way up.

She presents the problems but not the solutions and it’s likely because she doesn’t know them. She’s either in groups with neglectful woo mothers who think it’s cute their kids clothes are filthy, or groups for mothers of disabled kids where this topic doesn’t come up. She probably not in groups for normal families is my guess, and we sure don’t see people come by to help. .And I don’t see a lot of books lying around.

She’s just so ignorant she can’t even play act Crystal Healy woo mama properly, with the plastic diapers and fast food bags lying around. But like all our cows, she lives in the land of Delusion where all that matters are children’s names are misspelled trees or named after moons or neck bones and she’s a magical Reiki healer with a dying daughter in every photo. Get a kid to put on a clean shirt and it’s too hard.

 

[Mauve Olive]

I think @Barbarella said what I was trying to say but better, lol. I just remember when researching pregnancy/birth/parenting for myself how much stuff I thought was a bit hippy is actually pretty normal. But Robyn still presents what she does as if she's the first to do it, and her kids are going to grow up better than everyone else's for it.

 

[Turtlebees]

Having recently given birth myself, quite a bit of what Robyn talks about in regards to pregnancy, birth & parenting is far from 'woo' or 'out there', imho. There's stuff she talks about/shares that were mentioned to me by various NHS midwives, in ante-natal groups and I've read in #1 best seller maternity books. For example, the birthing swing was shown in a graphic of birthing positions graphic on my local baby & children's hospital's FB page.

Of course there's a lot of absolute batshit thrown in like the Healy. But a lot of people in the thread seem to think that everything she posts is totally bonkers or out there when in fact it's pretty mainstream. Which is why I find her so interesting and funny - she presents herself as this holistic hippie crunchy mother when a lot of what she does isn't special or controversial anymore, lol

I kinda agree.

One thing I've noticed in Beauty Parlor is that folks tend to be very judgemental* coupled with highly medicalized. I'm not sure if it's related to socioeconomics or age - maybe both as the demo seems to skew higher income, slightly conservative, and older - but the discourse is VERY different from what I encounter in real world within my circle. Maybe it's a generational American thing? Not criticizing (well, not too much), just noting it's different from my norm.

Robyn irks me because she's pretending to be someone she's not. She has one foot in woo and the other in generic white chick. Sure, she rises early to welcome the sun and does the solo home-birthing thing but so do a whole lot of mostly mainstream women these days. It's like being a witch or having heaps of tattoos; the pumpkin latte crew has taken it over.

In many ways, Robyn is a typical mommy influencer wannabe who, unfortunately for her, ended up with a damaged child by following what she saw everywhere online and assumed was a positive, natural choice that the very best, most in tune with the Earth, aspirational mothers select. I feel bad for her and Glen - they come across as average mid-thirties parents who see themselves as still the anti-establishment stoner kids they were in university days. They aren't superwoo but Robyn appears to wish she was. I suspect that, in her head, she's that hippie momma who looks effortlessly gorgeous in zero makeup and ethically sourced cotton clothes, never having to style her hair and surrounded by perfect children, all of them wearing crystal jewellery and healthy, happy smiles while barefoot in their lush, wild garden. In reality, she's just Robyn with her filtered selfies and dying daughter, watching her boys bond with their gymbrah dad.

* All the recent talk about wanting to 'save' Globyn's boys; those kids do not appear abused or neglected. We get glimpses of their lives via curated videos and photos that reveal more than they realize. What we're seeing is two parents dealing with the loss of their daughter before she's buried, knowing that their beliefs destroyed her potential. Each is dealing in their way; Glen opts to push it all to the back of his mind and concentrate on the boys and his workouts while Robyn fights the inevitable by refusing to admit Luna can't be fixed. It's tragic, and if Globyn were more sympathetic I'd feel devastated for them.

Mostly that so much of what she does is performative. She likes to present as being against the mainstream and being above others by pushing the boundaries - with her weird cooking, Healy, home births without medical professionals, astral spirit babies etc.

But a lot of what she actually does is painfully normal. Hypnobirthing, affirmations on the wall, birthing sling, disposable nappies, lots of screen time for Atlas, baby wearing, supermarket clothes for the kids... None of it is that crunchy.

Exactly.

 

[everybody in Portugal]

One thing I've noticed in Beauty Parlor is that folks tend to be very judgemental

Hang on.. are we not all here on Kiwi Farms, at least in part, to mock and judge people? Like, I know we are also an archival service and stuff but at the end of the day this is a discussion forum and these are LOLcows, not supportandcomplimentscows.

BP seems kinder than the rest of the farm, for the most part, but if we all stopped taking the piss and mocking thread subjects I'd probably leave, tbh. We aren't these people's friends, we're here to spectate and gossip/titter quietly to eachother behind our hands, I thought? Maybe I am here with entirely the wrong motivations and have wildly missed the point though—I do concede that that's a real possibility.

Credit where credit is due, Globyn's kids aren't outright abused or neglected like some cows' kiddos are. But if you're sharing website space with Rekieta and the Bushart clan then that bar is set pretty low...

 

[Bibbity Bobbity]

The most disgusting things are two-fold. IN MY OPINION.

1. Lack of contact with others IRL. I'm talking about family members who would model things, if not outright give practical advice, which may or may not be listened to. Or a playgroup with peers, where you get an idea of how similar kids and parents behave, and the kids get social stimulation.

2. No well baby checks, let alone vax. Cuz doctors are for sick people!! So much for early intervention.

I'm not gonna pathologize the kids, but Atlas could be on the road to being that weird kid. He's way behind in any language development*, and is getting there in potty training. Probably social skills. Plus future "homeschooling"? Yikes.

*Sometimes bilingual kids can take longer to speak, although there's not much evidence of Spanish spoken to him, let alone English.

I think Robyn wants to be a crunchy Earth goddess, she's just too lazy. Disposable diapers? On 3 kids? Fast food weekly? Total performance.

 

[Quack_Quack]

I haven't even been able to assess the trouble my boys get into for the trouble my girls get into. I have concluded that as a unit, they are basically unmanageable and the best I can do is enforce good behaviour and nice manners outside of the house. Inside the house I have to tolerate naked dancing with a disco light "This is my DISCO PENIS".

Mine just wander naked or flash you at inopportune moments.

Whereas I'm the middle of a gaggle of girls. And the one thing that sticks out is getting brought home by the police for breaking and entering.

Oaken is goofy-looking. I have 2 kids that have consistently been good-looking throughout their lives and one kid that goes through ugly duckling phases. I have never been in the "all babies are beautiful" camp. The Ugly Baby FaceTime prank videos are great though!

He does look like a slightly deformed potato but there is time!

She says she met her newborn son on the astral plane where he told her to name him the worst damn name.

Because he hid behind a tree...

two parents dealing with the loss of their daughter before she's buried

Hahaha nope.

Since Luna's disabilities came to light and there was basically fuck all that can be done, Robyn especially has been pushing the narrative of woo mum normality. Including telepathic abilities, dream walking, and other forms of non verbal communication. She posits the seizures that wrack Luna as her being sassy, and, as we are horribly witnessing, her body is now degrading to contractures and losing what reflexes she has. Kiddo is basically a balloon on a mouldering stick that's falling apart.

Robyn has never accepted that Luna's dying. I believe at one point it was posited to stop all care and let her go and she said no!

 

[unwieldy_object]

What we're seeing is two parents dealing with the loss of their daughter before she's buried, knowing that their beliefs destroyed her potential

Eh, have you read the same thread as the rest of us?
Robyn made the choice to homebirth twice after the catastrophic event that was Luna's birth.
You do realise how fucked up that decision is?

I'm not here to perform the #BeKind sweet talking of stupid af decisions that's expected of us everywhere else.
You've been here for four years and still seems to think that we have to be understanding and kind to people who make absolute shit decisions over and over again.
Sorry but I don't subscribe to that view.

 

[TapewormSalesman]

One thing I've noticed in Beauty Parlor is that folks tend to be very judgemental* coupled with highly medicalized. I'm not sure if it's related to socioeconomics or age - maybe both as the demo seems to skew higher income, slightly conservative, and older - but the discourse is VERY different from what I encounter in real world within my circle.

I'd agree to this about a lot of cows that are just cooky and not outright doing evil shit, but definitely not Robyn. She's negligent at best, malicious at worst and deserves the flak. Especially since she reads here to some extent (and can't admit she does) so she's forced to helplessly watch as people are flinging shit at her narc throne. Don't take my word for this, however. I have a personal beef since way back, when I went and tried to explain that raw milk is no devil's juice when handled properly, only for her to show Atlas with a stomach bug in the next insta reel.

 

[ATI Escapee]

I'm not gonna pathologize the kids, but Atlas could be on the road to being that weird kid. He's way behind in any language development*, and is getting there in potty training. Probably social skills. Plus future "homeschooling"? Yikes.

This is, in my opinion, the worst offense. Atlas is absolutely going to struggle socially, probably for the rest of his life if she really does homeschool him. Yes there has been a lot of risky woo stuff but luckily 2 of 3 kids seem to be perfectly (physically) healthy. It will not work out that way for a lot of people. The example she sets is dangerous imo.

Spoiler: small pl

I am from a family that did home births and homeschool, I wasnt home birthed but I was very very isolated and left alone growing up and even now I struggle with understanding how people relate to each other. Ive come a long way but this will be a life long issue for me. Its like autism from the early childhood environment rather than genetic, but it probably didnt help that autism runs in my family and my dad is so obviously autistic now that I know more about what is and is not 'normal'. This is what breaks my heart for Atlas the most- you couldnt pay me enough to go back and experience the isolation and social stunting that I did.

 

[Naenia Ness]

All the recent talk about wanting to 'save' Globyn's boys; those kids do not appear abused or neglected.

How long did it take for Atlas to get his own toys?

How long has Atlas been shoved into the garage with only Glen and the weights?

How long have we seen Atlas trying to participate in PT only for him to be ignored because everyone is focused on the potato child?

When was the last time we saw any mention of Atlas having a friend of some kind? Or interact with any child his own age?

Yeah we're getting only a small snapshot into their lives, but what we do see does seem to look just a tad neglectful.

Maybe it's not intentionally neglectful, but its still not good.

 

[GenociderSyo]

You forgot how many times have we seen Atlas with a full sagging unchanged diaper.