Containment Random Chris Updates

[King Kiwi]

So did Twisted freak just drop off the face of the earth?

Who?

Minor update. Idk how long ago it was updated, may have been two months, but the Sonichu Amiibo are now $65, $5 cheaper than they were before and $10 cheaper than at launch.
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Chris needs money. $300 art commissions, dropping prices, secretive nature that's not like him...

I think Caden is really having money issues and I'm guessing he's unable to find a job because his name links back to a motherfucker.

Doi. So young.

I wonder they're having issues with the mortgage; a house is like a child, once you have a commitment to it you have a commitment to it.

 

[TheCrackMonkey]

I think Caden is really having money issues and I'm guessing he's unable to find a job because his name links back to a motherfucker.

You have to be even more retarded than Chris to seriously think it's a good idea to tie your finances to an autistic motherfucking troon.

 

[ResignedCustodes]

So did Twisted freak just drop off the face of the earth?

Died of embarassment

 

[Ammyterasu]

Died of embarassment

He died to provide us milk. Salut!

 

[85CentSoda]

Vhs tapes generally used either diamonds, horizontal bars, small squares (sometimes oriented as diamonds), or small rectangles. This tape has a pattern that repeats. Rectangle, square, square, rectangle. I feel like I have seen that somewhere before and noted it because it was abnormal. Doing an image search and a manual search now I cannot find a cassette with this pattern.

Hey, thanks for helping me look into this. Welcome to the Farms. It really irks me that I can't find what tape this is, and I'm glad I'm not the only one. I was starting to feel a little crazy lol. I actually never really paid much attention to the pattern. I haven't been able to find a tape with this specific pattern either. As far as I can tell Japanese and US Maxell tapes had identical patterning. I did a bunch of searching last night and started to think that the tape might be a fake Maxell blank tape? Two things really stand out to me. Firstly, on the spine of the tape it just says "Maxell T-120 GX" instead of a code like pictured this:

I'll find the link if I can, but I saw someone on tapeheads.net say that counterfeit Maxell cassettes used to be common. I can't find any reference to counterfeit VHS tapes, but I think it stands to reason that low cost counterfeit Maxell blanks back then could have been made and sold. That could explain the weird patterning and markings on the tape.
Another thing, wouldn't a blank tape typically have a blank label on it so that the end user could write their own title? Why would someone at Nintendo Power print, cut, and paste a custom label to the tape? Secondly, why is VHS stamped into the top of the tape twice? It just seems weird. It's possible there is a code underneath the label.

I reached out to the seller and asked how they got it. He responded with, "I own a store. Someone donated about 7 boxes of vhs tapes that I’ve been sorting through on here the past 3 months. This is just another one of them. Most of the stuff I post on here keeps getting taken down because it’s too gnarly and hardcore. Like borderline mondo murder films. This tape was in there, as well as tons of recorded off tv children’s shows." Then he sent a second message saying he didn't know any more and didn't even remember who donated it.

some businesses will make the address based on the return address they received on the envelope.

I think this is completely possible. It's totally possible that Chris mailed in to Nintendo Power from Charlottesville, VA. Part of what drives me nuts about this tape is that as far as I can tell, "Charlottesville, NC" isn't actually a place that exists. It's also completely possible that whoever was labeling just messed up.

The person selling this on eBay doesn't strike me as manufacturing scam tapes, but it's completely possible that they got their hands on a scam tape.... The typeface used for the address is a form of courier, which really doesn't tell us a lot because while it was around it is also one of the most popular typefaces to use when counterfeiting a retro product because it's commonly known to have been around and is relatively easy to work with in photoshopping programs without becoming obviously updated.

At first I really was leaning towards the seller just accidentally getting a fake tape and not knowing what it is. He seems to sell a bunch of other rare VHS tapes and otherwise seems completely legit. The typeface being used in retro counterfeits is interesting, and I would imagine that as this seller seems familiar with vintage VHS, he would know that. If he were to make a fake tape, he probably would use this typeface.

There is credence to the story of getting the tape in a big box of other tapes, particularly recorded children's tv. He's selling a clearly homemade tape of some Canadian tv show called Treehouse, which is dated 2003. 2003 being the exact same year that Chris made the Animal Crossing video.

Assuming the tape is fake, either the seller made it which seems unlikely? Or he really did get a fake tape in a box of other random tapes which seems really unlikely. Why would someone counterfeit a tape of Chris's video, then put it in a box with a bunch of other homemade videos and donate it somewhere? It seems even crazier if whoever made the tape already started with a bootleg "Maxell" tape.

So much about this tape is just driving me crazy.

 

[King Von]

Assuming the tape is fake, either the seller made it which seems unlikely? Or he really did get a fake tape in a box of other random tapes which seems really unlikely. Why would someone counterfeit a tape of Chris's video, then put it in a box with a bunch of other homemade videos and donate it somewhere? It seems even crazier if whoever made the tape already started with a bootleg "Maxell" tape.

So much about this tape is just driving me crazy.

It's not much but I did find a tape that looks very similar, when I searched Maxell Canadian VHS tapes.

It looks to be pretty identical. But I can't figure out for the life of me why Nintendo Power would be using Canadian VHS? Maybe it doesn't matter, or they bought them in bulk, they are like two hours from the boarder.

 

[King Von]

https://www.45worlds.com/dvd/disc/peewees-big-adventure
Link to the site that had it.

 

[underoo underarmour]

It's not much but I did find a tape that looks very similar, when I searched Maxell Canadian VHS tapes.

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It looks to be pretty identical. But I can't figure out for the life of me why Nintendo Power would be using Canadian VHS? Maybe it doesn't matter, or they bought them in bulk, they are like two hours from the boarder.

The pattern in the plastic isn't the same though. The non-uniform pattern across the entire tape in question is very out of the ordinary, whereas the entire tape having the same pattern like this one is much more common.

The other thing I'm trying to take into account when researching the tape is the potential time frame. By 2003 the vhs market had changed a lot in the 3 years since DVDs. Usage was starting to be more "edited and amateur" media. By that I mean commercial cinematic movies bus vhs video was still popular but fast becoming more dvd baded. Many businesses still edited corporate content for internal use on vhs and home videos were a mixed bag of smaller format tapes and other media with full size vhs cameras being less popular. A lot of lower end editing equipment that would be common for non-feature length studios still worked mostly on VHS.

The format honestly isn't that far-fetched. I can believe Nintendo Power could have used full size VHS for internal purposes, but the labeling seems a bit overdone for internal purposes. If they were really using tapes for internal purposes, I feel like it would have one base label with the company or department on it and then a secondary label would get put on it labeling what it was. I could be overthinking that based on the way I've seen other businesses do it. But I still think making a specific label that is clearly cut out somewhat crookedly that prominently displays the Nintendo Power logo seems off. I am not sure how Nintendo Power worked, i.e. would a 3rd party or multiple offices be involved, which could explain the labeling. If some third party media company processed or archived stuff for them, it's possible that they would label things in that way.

The other option is a Chris direct release if you will. I can see Chris making a crooked Nintendo Power label to put on something he was sending to them. But before I dive into that too much, I think it's worth figuring out the original format Chris used. I couldn't find anywhere on CWCKI what format Chris's submission was sent to them in (It's probably listed somewhere that I'm missing). Someone probably has better info about how he submitted the video, which would be helpful in considering the "CWC direct theory".

I don't think the eBay seller is the one counterfeiting it because it seems like they have done a decent amount of business in equally "off beat but varied" VHS tapes that they probably bought at thrift stores. This is a 5 year old eBay store selling other VHS tapes. I suppose it is possible that they are a christorian and thought it would be worth faking, and then pretending to be ignorant would be a good way to put off questioning. Still I think the eBay store is reselling whatever we are looking at. Although I am starting to have my doubts that they aren't perhaps playing a little bit too dumb....

I have a few irons in the fire researching vhs tapes and the variations, but I did find some professional grade tapes that have plastic markings in a different pattern that isn't uniform across the whole tape, much the tape in question. I haven't had a lot of luck in finding anything counterfeit that matches, it seems like the counterfeit tapes are just slightly less perfect looking copies of the more standard uniform patterns. I think the tape pattern in the plastic is going to be a key to ruling this in or out. I will report back after I waste the rest of my day in the VHS tape style rabbit hole I've fallen into.

Tldr- The tape in question has a very specific plastic pattern that I'm working on.


Edit- I only found one example of this pattern, and it's on an older tape. I'm tracking down some information about the pattern.

 

[Super An Hero]

I feel like this tape is fake, like really fake.
Even the description feels like it is written by someone who knows who Chris is and is pretending not to know because it makes for a better story.
Like for instance right now if you Google Chris the first things that come up are that he was arrested for banging his mom, so someone who is just learning about him would most likely say he was an infamous criminal who was talked about on Fox News and not a youtuber. Also top internet search results call Chris a comic book creator and not a youtuber, so if this person just looked him up how does he know Chris is a youtuber?

This just feels like a scam to me.

I agree. If this was an authentic tape the person who's selling it would've had to seek it out. Chris Chan is well known on the internet but he's niche to the normies. It's not gonna be a situation where a relative dies and you inherit their baseball card collection, and you're asking questions about the collection to try and figure out if there's anything valuable. If you don't know who Chris Chan is and you receive this tape you'll google him, and the first thing you'll see is "online personality charged with incest," articles related to the motherfucker court proceedings, or the cwcki. Someone who didn't know who Chris Chan is would be selling the tape as "A VHS submission by infamous internet personality Chris Chan to Nintendo Power" in order to maximize the sale.

Even still Chris Chan isn't Ted Bundy level. I'd wait until the netflix doc comes out.

 

[Hollywood Hulk Hogan]

Whoever told Twisted Freak to be careful taking pictures, you were right to do so
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Legally there's nothing Chris or Caden can do about it. You're legally allowed to take photos of people if you're in a public space, of which the street would be considered. You're allowed to take photos in a parking lot as long as the store is okay with it. You're allowed to take photos in a store, as long as the store is okay with it. The Supreme Court has ruled that one has no expectations of privacy in a public space.

 

[underoo underarmour]

The actual tape itself

I agree. If this was an authentic tape the person who's selling it would've had to seek it out. Chris Chan is well known on the internet but he's niche to the normies. It's not gonna be a situation where a relative dies and you inherit their baseball card collection, and you're asking questions about the collection to try and figure out if there's anything valuable. If you don't know who Chris Chan is and you receive this tape you'll google him, and the first thing you'll see is "online personality charged with incest," articles related to the motherfucker court proceedings, or the cwcki. Someone who didn't know who Chris Chan is would be selling the tape as "A VHS submission by infamous internet personality Chris Chan to Nintendo Power" in order to maximize the sale.

Even still Chris Chan isn't Ted Bundy level. I'd wait until the netflix doc comes out.

The more I research the physical vhs a tape itself, the more I am inclined to agree with you. I might be completely off base here, but it almost would appear that the tape itself was selected intentionally for being in very good condition, but an older model cassette. Combine that with typeface that was known to be used over the 2000 time period but is also still easily used, the Nintendo Power logo being printed on the same label as the address, it seems more and more suspect.

Doing a better look at this eBay seller's current tapes up for sale, they all seem to be the sort of things you could pass off as unusual when really they are nothing special but happen to be on VHS. Taking media that is easily available on other platforms and putting it on a vintage VHS tapes and selling it isn't a terrible scam idea. You would have to vary your subject matter enough that you could pretend to not know anything about it and just say you got it in a pile.

The other thing I think I should point out is that the tape itself appears to have the copyright protection tab knocked out meaning you can't record over it. The way the dust has accumulated in that spot makes it look like it was only recently removed.

Here's the part that put me fully into the "total scam" standpoint. It looks like The tape was posted on the Chris Chan subreddit, and the post deleted when they got called out on being the eBay seller. The same Reddit user posted other items from the same eBay store in niche Reddit sections related to those tapes. Essentially, it looks like this person makes bad fakes of digital media on old VHS tapes and then hypes the auctions in the appropriate online forums. I'm going to declare "fake and gay" and then fade back into the bushes like Homer Simpson

 

[The Un-Clit]

FWIW "Treehouse TV" is a Canadian CHANNEL, not a TV show. It came online in the late 90s and still runs today, showing a ton of kids educational and entertainment shows. My girls used to watch it all the time when they were little. I presume the tape he's selling is a collection of episodes taped off the channel sometime in the 2000s. May not add much to the mystery here, but certainly helps the theory the collector and thus the tape are Canadian.

Here in the Vancouver area we have the big Richmond Night Market running in the summer, and cheap Chinese knockoff DVDs and VHS tapes were commonly sold back in the day there. Probably still are. I assume other big Canadian cities further east have something similar as well.

 

[Unexpected Genitals]

I actually created an account to respond to this. My autism isn't going to let this go (it is both a pattern based situation and a retrotech situation).

We appreciate your analysis, based videotape autist. Welcome to the Farms.

 

[Mion Sonozaki]

I reached out to the seller and asked how they got it. He responded with, "I own a store. Someone donated about 7 boxes of vhs tapes that I’ve been sorting through on here the past 3 months. This is just another one of them. Most of the stuff I post on here keeps getting taken down because it’s too gnarly and hardcore. Like borderline mondo murder films. This tape was in there, as well as tons of recorded off tv children’s shows." Then he sent a second message saying he didn't know any more and didn't even remember who donated it.

Well, we definitely know Chris didn't donate this if it's real. Besides the fact you would absolutely remember an obese man with blue hair dressed like a retarded clown, Chris would've undoubtedly asked for money instead of donating tapes for free (or hoarded them).

 

[Phalanges Mycologist]

That was all before Chris spent nearly two years in jail and a mental hospital for raping his own geriatric mother. Could be that he's worried that people photographing him and keeping tabs of his whereabouts will lead to less "accommodating" individuals coming up to him with some very uncomfortable questions, or outright letting everyone within earshot know that Chris is a filthy, scummy motherfucker.

I am legitimately curious as to why that's not happened yet, Chris crossed the barrier of notorious to infamous in a rather big way that people outside of the internet caught wind of him and found not just the Rape disgusting but the target of his actions so abhorrent there was genuine interest in him online an offline - that somebody should have recognised him and accosted him outside of snapping his photograph hasn't happened is a rather big stroke of luck on his part or just the sand in a hour glass counting down to such an event.

Maybe something has happened recently an that's why he's been quiet of late, while I doubt it's something that got physical I could see someone shouting stuff at him in a car park or shop etc and hiding for a bit and not talking about because it makes him feel bad or Caden has told him to lay low an keep quiet for a while.

 

[Zeus Blue Thunder]

This is what we're now limited to. Discussing which types of VCR's were around in 2003 to determine if the well documented and real piece of media somehow connects to a VCR take that somehow shows that Chris lives in North Carolina....

 

[RL Steinbeck]

his "SONCIHU" tard plates.

Forgive me if this has been discussed before, but has Chris ever spoken up with a retarded justification for swapping the letters? I feel like a misspelling like that would trigger his autism and he'd need to fabricate a "backstory" on how it still makes sense even though it's spelled wrong. Obviously I know he did it because he couldn't reclaim the original plates, but has he come up with something like "it's a glitch in the merge" to excuse it?

The seller is Canadian, so how did the tape end up there?

Cassette tapes have avid collectors who will blindly purchase large quantities of tapes. VHS tapes can get around quite a bit and change hands multiple times all without leaving a cardboard box. There's even a documentary on the topic.

The label also looks way too new.

If a tape was play a handful of times and spent most of its life stowed in a dark closet, it's not necessarily going to look aged. You'd be surprised at what can hold up over the years if it's stored in a dry, dark place.

I think the theory that holds the most water for me is that this was an internal tape that was stored in a corporate branch for years, then either was given away or saved with a bunch of other tapes during a major office clean-out. After that, they could have changed hands multiple times—again, probably with a bulk of other tapes—and I think it being in Canada could have either happened recently near the end of its journey, or the whole time, being kept at a satellite office across the border.

As far as the uneven label edges, it could have been applied by Chris himself, autistically wanting his submission to look "official," or more likely, just simply printed and cut out in the office by an assistant without a care for presentation or precision, being that it was just labeling for internal reference/storage. And like another poster posited, it could have even been a partner/sister media company handling the whole thing, dealing in contests for many companies, hence the specific Nintendo labeling.

I'm inclined to think this is a legit tape and not a fake. There's so many variables that could explain it being real, and it's just such a weird, inconsequential thing to want to reproduce.

 

[underoo underarmour]

I am legitimately curious as to why that's not happened yet, Chris crossed the barrier of notorious to infamous in a rather big way that people outside of the internet caught wind of him and found not just the Rape disgusting but the target of his actions so abhorrent there was genuine interest in him online an offline - that somebody should have recognised him and accosted him outside of snapping his photograph hasn't happened is a rather big stroke of luck on his part or just the sand in a hour glass counting down to such an event.

Maybe something has happened recently an that's why he's been quiet of late, while I doubt it's something that got physical I could see someone shouting stuff at him in a car park or shop etc and hiding for a bit and not talking about because it makes him feel bad or Caden has told him to lay low an keep quiet for a while.

There seems to be something up as far as Chris interactions and activities. Maybe Caden is worried about attention and has told Chris to not be the local big foot anymore. The twitter reply was probably written or coached by Caden and was pretty harsh.

Caden is wrangling a lazy, regarded literal mother fucker from half a country away while a prison term hangs over him suspended by the terms of his probation. That probation almost certainly has a clause prohibiting him from standing accused or guilty of further criminal activity. Whatever he had planned for making money with the property has probably gotten trampled on by this condition and the underperformance of Chris. Now he's stuck with a mortgage and Chris while being unable to leave Missouri. He well deserved Nelson Muntz "haw haw".

There has been some debate about Chris being medicated based on his appearance in some videos. The only way I saw Chris seeing a doctor happening was it being forced on him following or prior to his release. It has been long enough that those prescriptions would probably need to be renewed by revisiting the prescribing provider. Since Chris technically had the charges dismissed and didn't end up on any sort of probation, there wouldn't be anyone forcing him to make or attend such appointments. It is possible that Chris has stopped taking these medications which would undoubtedly compound any underlying standard Chris "personality" traits.

One thing is for sure. When the redditor saw "cross-dressing wish.com inspector gadget" at the airport the spilled spaghetti reaction to Chris's high-pitched sigh ruined what could have been an interesting interaction. Chris in s trench coat waiting for a flight. Those shenanigans basically write themselves.

 

[King Kiwi]

Legally there's nothing Chris or Caden can do about it. You're legally allowed to take photos of people if you're in a public space, of which the street would be considered. You're allowed to take photos in a parking lot as long as the store is okay with it. You're allowed to take photos in a store, as long as the store is okay with it. The Supreme Court has ruled that one has no expectations of privacy in a public space.

Privacy? And just what would Chris want privacy for?

That Tard and his cronies are up to something.

 

[Summer of George]

Uh... bros? Why did this just pop up in my twitter feed?


https://x.com/BitchAssBowie/status/1799594576405282826 - archive



Sorry if I'm late and gay and this is already something well-known about. I don't really follow Chris at all.