Windows Recall AI snapshots stored in an unencrypted SQL file in appdata. Apparently. Already there is scripts to install it on unsupported devices.

[Betonhaus]

Have you looked at Linuxfx? Comes with edge, co-pilot and PowerShell installed and integrates with your ms account and OneDrive. Wine installed so you can install windows applications by downloading the .exe and double clicking (in theory at least, you probably still want steam). Android apps with graphical acceleration also working out of the box
I came pretty close to making this my daily driver but I found the UI lacked polish, things like light yellow text on white backgrounds and trendy invisible borders making it hard to know which window I'm in is too much for an oldfag like me but I suspect with a vanilla install of cinnamon or xfce it would be pretty ideal for peeps coming from the M$ ghetto.
Oh and no doubt when OpenRecall matures they'll include it to keep the whole "windows clone" thing as realistic as possible.

I'll maybe play with it in a VM but I do want to get away from Microsoft Account services, and I'm happy with Linux Mint.

 

[Betonhaus]

How many defects in HP laptops can you find in that same 8-year period?

How many times has HP implied it's products were perfect with no flaws?

 

[The Ugly One]

How many times has HP implied it's products were perfect with no flaws?

Nobody claimed Apple products are "perfect with no flaws," and it's disingenuous to pretend otherwise. Apple certainly has never claimed that in 40+ years of operation, no shipped product has ever had a single valid warranty claim made on it, or any latent manufacturing or engineering defect discovered, and it's extremely dishonest to claim they have.

 

[Betonhaus]

Nobody claimed Apple products are "perfect with no flaws," and it's disingenuous to pretend otherwise. Apple certainly has never claimed that in 40+ years of operation, no shipped product has ever had a single valid warranty claim made on it, or any latent manufacturing or engineering defect discovered, and it's extremely dishonest to claim they have.

 

[Falcon Sebben]

Windows 2000 was also good (was around at the same time as Me)

2000 was originally supposed to bridge the gap between NT and 98 so you'd use "2000" for both business and home. But they couldn't make it work and wound up throwing ME out there which sucked. I did a stint at HP when they were rolling out ME to their home PCs. It was such a fiasco that they were offering a free 98 downgrade disk to anybody that called in wanting to go back to 98 SE.

Sure 98SE was buggy but ME was unusable.

Work in tech support for awhile, and you'll see that most people look at their computers as some kind of living entity that's smarter than them, and they are simply subjected to whatever it decides to do that day. lol

Oh yeah. I can't count the amount of times an end user said, "I'm afraid of my computer" or "it intimidates me". I'd always ask if they felt the same about their toaster, microwave or TV and when they say, "no of course not" I'd say, "that's all a PC is. It's an appliance. It's not smart. It's not clever. It doesn't think. It does what you want it to do limited only by its programming".

Smartphones are one of the most dangerous things you can own. I'm not even exaggerating.

The funniest thing is all the crazy people you know that say the government is tracking you, that there's cameras in everything, that what you search on the internet is being analyzed by Google, the NSA and other shadowy and evil forces never travel without their phones. If anything it's easier to track you by your phone as it PINGs every cell tower it passes by. It's like a roadmap of where you've gone in a day.

Plus it's free. The only downside is some of the macros in their version of Excel can break as the language used is different.

They had backdoors for sure, the glowies went asking for those the moment windows became "the OS". But phoning home really started around vista I think.

Yeah it's just prior to that most people were still on dialup so bandwidth was a big deal. By the time XP came out broadband was more common and when Vista came out only Boomers were still using the phone line. But the ability to phone home was there. It was just a much smaller package they'd send back.

 

[Betonhaus]

Oh yeah. I can't count the amount of times an end user said, "I'm afraid of my computer" or "it intimidates me". I'd always ask if they felt the same about their toaster, microwave or TV and when they say, "no of course not" I'd say, "that's all a PC is. It's an appliance. It's not smart. It's not clever. It doesn't think. It does what you want it to do limited only by its programming

Is it possible to use a toaster or microwave in a way so wrong it gives a criminal your credit card information?

 

[sweater_supremacy]

I thought that was what greenhorn was supposed to do

2000 was originally supposed to bridge the gap between NT and 98

 

[Falcon Sebben]

Is it possible to use a toaster or microwave in a way so wrong it gives a criminal your credit card information?

No but that was never the point. I'm talking people that were afraid to use the PC completely. Or they honestly thought it was sentient and could think or could do things maliciously because they called it "stupid". You're bringing up a legit problem. Not one that first level support has to deal with.

I thought that was what greenhorn was supposed to do

Longhorn which was what Vista was originally code named. But no, originally that was what 2000 was supposed to do. They tried again with Vista with Home, Business and Premium but it was such a gigantic piece of shit that they realized they'd have to redesign it from the ground up and literally write it fresh instead of using pre-written and pre-existing code to cobble something together. It would have taken them so much time and effort that they abandoned it and went back to having the home and business flavors of Windoze.

 

[The Ugly One]

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So you can't stop being disingenuous, got it. Guess we're done!

 

[Sharpeteer]

In 20 years of owning Apple laptops and desktops, I've had two parts fail. A laptop hard drive went out after about 7 years of use, and a battery died. Turns out you don't need to DIY repair when the OEM doesn't cut corners with shitty parts.

Apple is the only computer manufacturer in history to mess up a SATA cable in a laptop. So much so that they tried to "fix it", and only made the failure rate even worse. Lol

It really is unfortunate that no third party makes those SATA cables, because you are forced to buy the OEM one, as no one else makes them, and are therefore stuck with a cable that dies by simply existing. Researching is hard.

I don't blame you for not wanting to look up all the recall programs (several of which they were dragged into kicking and screaming), all the class actions (resulting in several of said programs), etc. If you're happy, then remain happy. Makes no difference to me.

 

[The Great Milenko]

If you have no real reason to use Microsoft Office then Linux is entirely fine.

If you have to work with Excel files that are only held together by all the crust they've collected through the last fifteen years, though...you really need MS Excel to do this and the last version to run on wine is like...2013 maybe.

LibreOffice seems to cover all that I will ever need: Writer, Calc, Impress. The other, more technical programs, I know will need WINE. Seems like a small price to pay.

I also started to look at Framework laptops; something that is modular and can be repaired? Canadian, please. And there are people running POP OS on their Framework as well.

This is something that I will dig into more. I hate Windows 11, I hate office 356.

 

[The Ugly One]

Apple is the only computer manufacturer in history to mess up a SATA cable in a laptop.

You've gone through every laptop model in all of history and determined none of them had issues with cable abrasion? Impressive. This must have taken you a very long time.

I don't blame you for not wanting to look up all the recall programs (several of which they were dragged into kicking and screaming), all the class actions, etc.

Did you look up recalls for Dell, HP, Lenovo, or any other manufacturer so you could determine whether Apple is above, below, or at industry norms? Because the most recent comparative study I've got is from Consumer Reports, but it's a few years old:



Maybe when you were cataloging the history of cable failures during the last 30 years of the computer industry, you gathered enough data to make your own chart.

 

[RGBCube]

My fellow macfag, tomorrow we are going to find out just how bad Apples take on all this AI integration is going to be.

Good prediction. Now iOS is filled with AI nonsense (a lot good and a lot bad). It will be funny when normies start calling Stable Diffusion (the thing they are using for Genmoji) Apple AI. Heck.

People are also going to start using siri to compose emails and to summarize them, massively decreasing actual human writing sent over email. Just send me the fucking prompt bro, I do not want to read 3 pages of AI nonsense that can be expressed in a single sentence.

 

[Smar Mijou]

I wonder if Windows Pro and Enterprise editions will even have Recall.

I'm sure that Pro will have it, but Enterprise is their moneymaker, and I don't see even the most tech-illiterate companies willingly going along with pajeet coded spyware to this degree.

Another thing I haven't seen been brought up yet is this will basically kill your SSD or HDD with thousands of daily writes and deletes, basically shaving whole years off of your hardware's lifespan by constantly snapping screenshots, ingesting them and deleting them, unless Microsoft really is retarded enough to not delete anything their shitty AI captures, in which case they'll make the computer functionally useless.

It's not planned obsolescence, you just "need" to get a new computer every 4-5 years!

Anyone who can't handle a modern Linux distro deserves all the shit they can eat.
If it doesn't suit you, fine: But if you can't face handling your own updates you should go buy crayons.

Not every user is a Linux sperg, and some just happen to be locked into the retarded Microsoft ecosystem because of their work or other situations. While I think their whole MS "365" software suite is retarded, it unfortunately reigns supreme in the corporate world. And no Linux distro, whether it's Mint, Ubuntu, Android (yes, Android is indeed a fork of Linux), or whatever troon coded distro someone uses from some v-tuber, not everyone can use or has the option to use WINE, DosBox, or some other compatibility layer or partition to make everything work. I don't have a problem with Linux on principle, but I  DO have a problem with the rampant elitism and smugness from many of the spergs like yourself who go off about how Troonware v41.0 is far better than Windows or Apple IOS Whatever. And "those people" are  just too  dumb to comprehend the greatness that is Linux! You fucking people are literally the Rick And Morty fan base of the computing world.

In 20 years of owning Apple laptops and desktops, I've had two parts fail. A laptop hard drive went out after about 7 years of use, and a battery died. Turns out you don't need to DIY repair when the OEM doesn't cut corners with shitty parts.

Please let me introduce you to @larossmann And his Youtube channel where he goes into great detail over numerous ongoing flaws with Apple product and their notorious failure to fix these flaws.

Sure 98SE was buggy but ME was unusable.

98 was good in that it at least had native USB support, as well as ethernet and DVD. Sure, it was indeed buggy, but it was some much needed tiptoes into the modern standards that are still in use today.

 

[Betonhaus]

So you can't stop being disingenuous, got it. Guess we're done!

it's literally part of their marketing. One of the core aspects of Apple's marketing and brand recognition is that the products never have flaws, which is a complete lie. Of course it's probably worth mentioning "you're holding it wrong" antennagate, and Apple providing very detailed instructions for cleaning the butterfly keyboards that were prone to failure.

 

[Zeus Blue Thunder]

Man, Microsoft's gonna be raided by the feds for child porn possession!

 

[jertzog]

Good thing we have bright tech journalist stars like "Imran Invadingger" to tell boomers that this shit is okay and totally worth upgrading windows for.

 

[The Ugly One]

Please let me introduce you to @larossmann And his Youtube channel where he goes into great detail over numerous ongoing flaws with Apple product and their notorious failure to fix these flaws.

Once again, for the back, Apple Laptops break less than half as often as Asus, Lenovo, Dell, HP, or Toshiba.

 

[std::string]

2000 was originally supposed to bridge the gap between NT and 98 so you'd use "2000" for both business and home. But they couldn't make it work and wound up throwing ME out there which sucked.

It was mostly down to driver issues. MS didn't want people buying Windows 2000 and finding out their shit didn't work. Companies had to write new drivers for Windows 2000 and many didn't care to or were currently burning to the ground in the dot com crash.

 

[Scalia OBGYN]

Linux you fucking retard, but let me be clear: don't YOU use linux - you belong on windows goy. Suffer.

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