Greer v. Moon, No. 20-cv-00647 (D. Utah Sep. 16, 2020)

[Harvey Danger]

Null, don't listen to this dude, he's a Greer simp.
File the funny.

Null has stared too long into the judicial abyss. Now, the abyss is staring back through him.

 

[Al from Dadeville]

This is not a lolsuit, it is a traveler traveling

basically told Hardin to ignore anything he feels is the most correct and instead file some nonsense exactly as I want it

Is Hardin taking this okay or do we need to take shifts on suicide watch?

I'm curious if Russ even remembers what this case is about.

He his penis

While Florida Judge appears to be the Florida Man of judges, perhaps it actually isn't such a terrible thing not to have a case involving retards be tried by a retard.

Florida judges uphold the will of florida cops, this was bound to be a disaster

 

[Black Spruce]

Let me see if I've got this straight: Russ played the "I'm a retard who deserves more chances" card and it actually worked?

It works all the damn time. I'm involved in some minor litigation at the moment and I usually have to sit through other people's court hearings before they get to me, and believe me. The amount of sub-gorilla IQ retards just like Russell Greer that the judges have to deal with is insane. Out of the 8ish hearings I've had to sit through, at least 6 of them were Pro Se and retarded. The judge has to treat Pro Se litigants with kid gloves or else they risk having more bullshit clogging up the court system where the retards will be trying to say that the judge mistreated them, was biased, or violated their rights somehow.

 

[Jotch]

Thia means that, since the court responded in docket #129, the court noticed the poll and everyone loses.

 

[Magnificent Penis]

They will end up ruling this is favor of Greer. This case keeps bouncing around courts that straight up ignore the law, well-established precedent, procedural rules, everything. They even ignore/overrule other federal courts. I guess the silver lining is that it further exposes how broken everything is.

 

[teriyakiburns]

Is Hardin taking this okay or do we need to take shifts on suicide watch?

@Useful_Mistake question for you.

 

[reptile baht spaniard rid]

@Useful_Mistake question for you.

I think it comes down to "did Null push him aside and demand to write his own motion pro se style" or "did Null say 'here's what I want to argue, dress it up legal-talk like".

 

[mindlessobserver]

I think it comes down to "did Null push him aside and demand to write his own motion pro se style" or "did Null say 'here's what I want to argue, dress it up legal-talk like".

Not sure what can be done to make this clownshoes case seem serious at this point. Null and Hardin have tried treating it professionally for years now and the courts keep on ringing the gong. So I am all for letting Mister Honkler enquire, attorney at lawl come in to address this case on its merits.

 

[daniel day]

@Null
Do you think if you went to an eastern european loony bin doctor and got him to declare you mentally retarded that youd win the case automatically? Or is the risk not worth it because they might move you from a commie block with a kebab store to a padded cell without your fellow kiwischizos around?

 

[ScooterL]

I think it comes down to "did Null push him aside and demand to write his own motion pro se style" or "did Null say 'here's what I want to argue, dress it up legal-talk like".

I hope it's a forty-page compilation of screenshots from Russell's Instagram and Facebook, ideally including a picture of Hitler.

 

[Botchy Galoop]

I trust Mr. Hardin enough to let Null take the Law out for a spin and see how it handles.
(cut to scene from Rain Man "I'm an excellent driver")
As long as Null's motion is given a going over by Hardin to correct for any formatting or grammatical issues, I say, "Why not?". What harm can even come at this point?

It is pretty obvious that Josh is being punished in the only way that American Jurisprudence can, and that is by dragging out this case until the defendant is dead or bankrupt. The Court knows that legally Josh is in the right, but they want him to just go the fuck away. They have given a retarded pro-se plaintiff numerous bites at the apple to the detriment of the defendant. This is a war by proxy against Josh, KiwiFarms, and Freeze Peach. As I write this, it sounds paranoid and conspiratorial, but I can come to almost no other rational conclusion.

Either the Courts are this broken and useless, or Josh is being punished. Or maybe, because the Courts are broken and useless, Josh can be punished. So Josh, make sure your motion is polished and concise and has the needed honk-honk to make us all laugh, because why the fuck not.

eta: It goes without saying that I trust Null implicitly. He has navigated the judicial waters for 10 years thus far, and has not scuppered the Good Ship Kiwi.

 

[Vect]

The Court knows that legally Josh is in the right, but they want him to just go the fuck away. They have given a retarded pro-se plaintiff numerous bites at the apple to the detriment of the defendant. This is a war by proxy against Josh, KiwiFarms, and Freeze Peach. As I write this, it sounds paranoid and conspiratorial, but I can come to almost no other rational conclusion.

...or it's just that this is day-to-day legal finger fuckery. The rational conclusion is that procedural nonsense happens all the time and the simple reality is that entitled nincompoops with nothing else to do will clog up and take advantage of any fair system. It's by design.

Let's not overreact. When the court sides with us, it's "RUSSHOLE BTFOed", when we suffer one setback, it's "WAR BY PROXY". We can only guess at what's happening so interfering with troll filings for no clear gain just seams pointless.

 

[Null]

When the court sides with us, it's "RUSSHOLE BTFOed",

has this happened a single time?

 

[Debbie Macomber]

To be fair to the State of Florida, the prosecution failed to prove Casey Anthony actually killed her daughter. Yes they placed her daughter's body in the trunk of her car and yes they proved she lied to the police. But they couldn't prove that her daughter didn't drown in the backyard swimming pool and Casey hadn't simply dumped her body in the swamp because she's a terrible mother. Like it or not, that case was a prime example of justice being carried out the way the Founding Fathers intended it to be.

I know it's getting off topic, but if I were on that jury, it would be "beyond reasonable doubt" that she googled how to smother a child with duct tape, and then her daughter coincidentally "drowned" with duct tape residue on her nose and lips and then the mother loaded her in the truck and tried to sink the corpse in a swamp. There is no other explanation than that she killed her daughter. It is beyond reasonable doubt to assume someone else broke into the house, searched that on Casey's computer, and then the daughter coincidentally drowned with duct tape on her nose and lips and her mother loaded her corpse in her trunk and tried to sink it in a swamp, and blamed the whole thing on kidnapping by a nanny, because she was allegedly molested as a child

 

[reptile baht spaniard rid]

has this happened a single time?

Even in this case he had to have something to appeal (and until he won that appeal he was btfo’d) and he got transferred to Florida.

So far he’s up somewhat on this one, but he has definitely been btfo’d on other cases he did.

 

[TooManyKittens]

Man. So noted

You use lawyers against corporations.
And you apparently file pro se retard, fling shit everywhere, make sure the judge knows your target is a bad person and play havoc breaking all the rules.

I knew our justice system was unfair, fucked, and against anybody not a retard, nigger, or rich pedo, but I hate being so thoroughly confirmed.

If only I was black. Then I could chimp out all the fucking time and destroy property and probably get people killed with 0 outcry.

Well since I'm not at this point my most optimistic hope is that greer does something retarded unrelated to the case or us and gets a Darwin award.

I revoke all non black pilled statements i have ever made about the USA

 

[Vect]

has this happened a single time?

You secured a denial of reply to an answer, which means they are paying attention to his conduct, and you got the transfer granted in the first place. As I understand, even getting on the docket for the Supreme Court review counts as a win considering how low the chances were. My point is I don't see you being singled out to be screwed over, in this instance, though I appreciate that's not how you're recently inclined to feel.

Admittedly, we've (by which I mean, us following the case) also lulled ourselves into a kind of affinity bias with the court every time Russell files something insane.

 

[sirthisisanarbys]

chad pro se law expert russel vs virgin (((lawcell))) hiring josh moon

 

[Botchy Galoop]

The rational conclusion is that procedural nonsense happens all the time and the simple reality is that entitled nincompoops with nothing else to do will clog up and take advantage of any fair system. It's by design.

I appreciate your alternate take on Greer v Moon. Sincerely. It is always good to temper ones views, especially when they rub against the grain.

Spoiler: Pro Se Spergery

I understand that in the spirit of ultimate fairness, the Court has given much leeway to the "less fortunate". I also think that the practice of fair dealing and equality under the law was especially and historically meant to provide protection to any poor soul who found themselves having to defend themselves against the State or those more powerful. And I see also, in the spirit of equality there is an argument to be made for tolerance of pro se plaintiffs. However, the pro se plaintiff situation is ripe for abuse. There is no limiter for a pro se plaintiff who means to cause the defendant harm, for they cannot suffer harm themselves. They are in effect, judgement and sanction-proof. They got nothing, they got nothing to lose That is not even considering the advantage in forma pauperis gives a plaintiff, as was seen in Scott v Moon, a case that in the end Josh won, but at huge financial cost, none of which was recoverable. Null is fortunate that in this case he has the financial ability to offer a vigorous defense, for what good it does him.

Sorry for sperging on, but there has to be a better way. Non Americans are continually baffled by our tort system and don't understand how quick we are to threaten or actually engage in a lawsuit. Lawfare as sport. Meh. I'll quit while I'm behind. just
"LEAVE JOSHUA MOON ALONE"

 

[geckogoy]

hardin: Not to worry, I have spent years carefully studying tens of thousands of pages of law code and case law

judge: lol nerd