Official Kiwi Farms Man-Hate Thread

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God fucking damnit can I watch one (1) single video about lolcows and drama without men being disgusting and defending rape??? I was watching Turkey Tom's video about Def Noodles and suddenly I was flashbanged by him and other men defending rape jokes. They do see rape as a joke, don't they? They have no respect, empathy or love for us unless we're someone they consider property. They do, however, love and empathise with other men, regardless of what they have done.

I have male friends and usually I think they're cool and wouldn't be like that, but is it all just a cope? What do they really think? Do they jack off to hardcore porn (aka women being abused), do they fantasize about brutalizing women? Do they joke amongst themselves about rape?

Why are men so hellbent on terrorizing us, so that we're afraid of participating in society? Women who are in the public eye, especially internet content creators, are so hated and mistreated. Other women see that and become afraid of airing their viewpoints, so we end up with a vast majority of male viewpoints being propagated. Because men bully us into silence, they believe that we do not have anything to say. They will never realize it's their fucking fault that we're afraid to speak up, will they?

Yeah, this whole rant came out of me being triggered by turkey fucking tom of all people, defending rape jokes against a 15 year old girl. Embarrassing, I know, but my period is about to start and I'm sensitive and angry.
Turkey Tom is really bad for this, anytime there’s an accusation he is the first to start defending it. I do not watch his channel, but he gets stuff wrong in general anyway so his content is overrated. He has lied and said that Supermega girl didn’t say she was saying no, but in her account she said she did say that. To him if the accused denies assaulting someone, he takes that as fact and will make a video defending them. He does the ‘innocent until proven guilty’ as if he’s a judge and lawyer and as if this is court. It’s not, it’s public opinion, yet he employs these tools which benefit rapists (which is why the conviction rate hovers at 1%, why cops tell victims they should just get therapy as investigations go nowhere, why the majority (I think much less than 10%) even get investigated.

The nature is sex crimes is they take place between 2 people, so it’s always a he said she said, and rape kits only prove intercourse occurred. Even if there’s violent injuries, men just claim BDSM now because the despicable pro-kink crowd have normalised rape. It is incredibly hard to prove, and why most prosecutors don’t bother. So all women have is being able to share their story, but now we have people taking advantage of that to smear women at default liars which is what that fat cunt Turkey Tom does as soon as a man denies the accusations. Which btw they will deny every fucking time because everything is so stacked in their favour of course they will lie about it. The people who lie most about rape are the rapists, because fucking obviously, yet moids reject this. The Johnny Depp trial really fucked over other women as now men just sue, which again is very easy for reasons I just laid out.
 
If you watch any male YouTuber long enough, they will show their ass eventually. I was watching Sean of Steel react to M6PL for awhile but in one of his last reactions, the woman clearly stated her father had a second family and that's why her parents divorced. Sean proceeds to say there's two sides to every story. The man had a second family, Sean. The man was married, had a kid and then maintained another family with another woman at the same time. That's the story. Did the woman force him to have a secret second family? She must have been so awful yet so abusive yet completely oblivious that this man deserved a second family.

It's not his first snide remark about women and divorce on top of all the gross sex jokes - I'd rather just watch the highlights by TLC now.

I also saw Hasan react to the woman crying about how she can't seem to find decent men offline either and how she had gone to a comedy show and was made the butt of the joke for being alone. Hasan acts ultra confused as to why she would be upset and feigns ignorance about "social anxiety" and how he wouldve used it as a way to meet new people, like, "haha yeah I was the one they were making fun of all night". Yet, we have seen how Hasan reacts to words written on a screen by anonymous viewers that criticize him for saying stupid shit. This woman sat passively, took the abuse in a literal public forum and then tried to express her frustrations and disappointment and perhaps embarrassment in a vulnerable way and he basically sat like Beavis and Butthead laughing at her.

There's another right wing guy from Australia called Ian Butterfield or something like that and he makes manosphere adjacent content about whatever modern day woes they have but he continually puts his horrifying receding bald hair line front and center in every thumbnail with a title that criticizes a woman for existing in a way that's unacceptable to him. How the fuck can you even have the balls to say any of this shit to more than four people with that hairline? I'm not taking anything you say seriously with a fucking infinity symbol for a hairline. Shave it to the scalp ffs.
 
Here is the best simile I can think of for that certain type of man who wants to see women replaced with sexbots. Meet the Australian Jewel Beetle. In this species, the males are commonly observed trying to mate with discarded beer bottles. The beer bottles act as a supernormal stimulus, far shinier and darker than any jewel beetle female. What a sad way to root yourself out of the gene pool.
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All sex buyers are rapists. There is no consent, the money is not buying consent, the money is there instead of consent.

I need to log the fuck off man twitter is full of rapists. I know men have absolutely zero empathy whatsoever for women and will first side with a rapist just because he’s a man but holy shit does it make me MATI as fuck. It’s not just that they don’t empathise it is the way they harass these women afterwards because all men benefit from rape rhetoric. While I am here, fuck every single ”sex work is work” bitch this is your fault. They really think paying a few dollars to rape a mentally ill homeless woman is consent and if she ever criticises what happened she’s just another woman avoiding accountability. Feminism is dead because libfems killed it and I will never ever not retard rage at that shit.

Men care more and are enraged more by the borderline fictitious fantasy of false accusations meanwhile actual rapists don’t even go to jail. Hating Moids is the ONLY moral constitution.
 
Men care more and are enraged more by the borderline fictitious fantasy of false accusations meanwhile actual rapists don’t even go to jail.
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For me it's a very a mask off moment for me when moids talk about how false accusations should be punishable by death, but don't put the same vitriol in actually
more heinous crimes.It's always death penalty or terrible fate for false accusations, but never for stealing, killing, raping, abusing/torturing children and animals.

Moids will cry how #MeToo ruined any possible communication between men and women, how it allowed women to start acting fully chauvinistic towards men and how men refuse to talk to women anymore because "the risk is not worth it", but conveniently forget that when the concept of honor was still important in western countries, men constantly falsely accused women of being whores/sluts just based on their appearances or if that woman they desired turned them down, which often led to not only the woman's reputation being completely tarnished, but also her whole family's reputation too, which had various results of either women having to placate the feelings of moids who started that accusation in the first place, her family fully disowning her due to the pressure and shame or in the most extreme cases, women killing themselves. Give me a break.

They aren't whining about actual injustice being done when cases of false accusations do happen, they are whining because they now face actual repercussions when they make women feel uncomfortable and women not having to put up with them with their attempts at flirting or saying things nobody wants to hear, because if women 10-20 years ago were to express discomfort they would be called buzzkills or too sensitive for not getting on with the program.
 
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If you watch any male YouTuber long enough, they will show their ass eventually.
Chud Logic (while obviously more conservative, not that far off from TurkeyTom in his views- as far as I can tell) was talking about his own mental health a few streams back. He promptly explained that while he's thought about going to therapy before and would be open to considering it in the future, modern therapy was really "built for women" because "sitting down and talking about how you feel isn't meant for men, and men need a different approach". His chat was completely on board as far as I remember.

And then men really wonder why they "can't understand women". Using words to communicate your feelings isn't sexed behavior. It shouldn't be fucking sexed behavior. No one is asking you to cry about how your co-worker hurt your feelings that day, but hey, maybe being able to utilize your grasp of language to communicate "Hey I've been depressed/ anxious/ stressed for X amount of time, I need to resolve this issue, here is how it affects my day to day life, do you have any mental health tactics that can get me off of this vicious cycle" is normal fucking human behavior?

Jesus Christ.
 
No one is asking you to cry about how your co-worker hurt your feelings that day, but hey, maybe being able to utilize your grasp of language to communicate "Hey I've been depressed/ anxious/ stressed for X amount of time, I need to resolve this issue, here is how it affects my day to day life, do you have any mental health tactics that can get me off of this vicious cycle" is normal fucking human behavior?
Men dickride the pop culture version of stoicism, tease their friends for being bluepilled womanly hysterical faggots if they try talking about their feelings, insist all psych meds are evil and turn you into a limp wristed cuck, and view any media depiction of sensitive/emotionally mature men as unrealistic emasculated wish fulfillment written by women. Yet somehow "male loneliness" and men being more willing to blow their head off than start a journal is women's fault and problem.

I'm not even a fan of talk therapy, but how different is it really from all the venting men unload on their wives/girlfriends for free lol (until their partner is sick of constantly having to solve all their emotional problems without them making an effort to improve, at which point they might move onto a mistress who makes them feel "appreciated" and "valued" but is really just a new outlet).

I have cherished male friends and I'm happy to help them talk about their feelings, but that's a hard ask for guys who can't even make a female acquaintance without trying to fuck her or blaming her for not reciprocating the interest -- if it's a man who believes men and women can be friends at all.

This circlejerk is of course fanned by moids claiming they totally (100% true) were suddenly and viciously dumped by their BITCH whore girlfriend after he shed a few tears in front of her because he just put down his childhood dog... why are foids so evil?? Women must totally hate men who are in tune with their emotions, that's why manosphere fags are so successful in their relationships.
 
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Tell me why as a kid I knew all the jokes about grannies having saggy breasts, why is such normal media to oversexualise women and their breasts which only exist to feed their babies? Psychological warfare. Reparations are owed.
Men think women owe it to society to function as decorative objects, so a woman whose tits have gone through the wringer (because they're oversized, they got used up in breastfeeding, whatever) is committing an act of social disobedience. Same reason men get so worked up by fat women but mostly think fat men are just sort of comical.
Pretty sure there’s a user than only rates people autistic and never posts who had a complaint thread and people called him a faggot for caring about sticker ratings. But as ever, moids fall to pieces when a woman does anything whatsoever.
There was one gimmick account that would only interact with people through stickers. IDK if whoever runs it still bothers now, cause changing the notification system means most of their stickers will not be noticed by the people who get them.
They do see rape as a joke, don't they? They have no respect, empathy or love for us unless we're someone they consider property. They do, however, love and empathise with other men, regardless of what they have done.
It's a joke until they get caught, and then they seamlessly code switch to "it was consensual/never happened". If the woman comes out of the rape alive and not grievously injured within an inch of her life, the men simply choose not to believe it was rape.
The nature is sex crimes is they take place between 2 people, so it’s always a he said she said, and rape kits only prove intercourse occurred. Even if there’s violent injuries, men just claim BDSM now because the despicable pro-kink crowd have normalised rape. It is incredibly hard to prove, and why most prosecutors don’t bother. So all women have is being able to share their story, but now we have people taking advantage of that to smear women at default liars which is what that fat cunt Turkey Tom does as soon as a man denies the accusations. Which btw they will deny every fucking time because everything is so stacked in their favour of course they will lie about it. The people who lie most about rape are the rapists, because fucking obviously, yet moids reject this. The Johnny Depp trial really fucked over other women as now men just sue, which again is very easy for reasons I just laid out.
There are sometimes contributing factors and evidence that can help... for example, if your rapist enjoys a significant amount of power over his victim, or a bunch of people are able to come forward and talk about how obsessively he pursued her.
But honestly, it seems to me that most men simply won't believe rape occured unless the victim is dead. Men seem to have no problem understanding that dead women with evidence of recent premortem intercourse were raped; it's only when the women are still alive and able to name their accuser that we enter this he said/she said dynamic. This is because men close ranks around their own (ie other men) when the shit hits the fan, and they don't actually care for protecting women at all.

All sex buyers are rapists. There is no consent, the money is not buying consent, the money is there instead of consent.

I need to log the fuck off man twitter is full of rapists. I know men have absolutely zero empathy whatsoever for women and will first side with a rapist just because he’s a man but holy shit does it make me MATI as fuck. It’s not just that they don’t empathise it is the way they harass these women afterwards because all men benefit from rape rhetoric. While I am here, fuck every single ”sex work is work” bitch this is your fault. They really think paying a few dollars to rape a mentally ill homeless woman is consent and if she ever criticises what happened she’s just another woman avoiding accountability. Feminism is dead because libfems killed it and I will never ever not retard rage at that shit.

Men care more and are enraged more by the borderline fictitious fantasy of false accusations meanwhile actual rapists don’t even go to jail. Hating Moids is the ONLY moral constitution.
Yeah that "sex work is work" canard might be true for gay male whores, but never for women. Why is that? well... women are always physically at a disadvantage and not necessarily capable of just BTFOing a man they don't want to sell sexual services to. So they have pimps to "keep them safe", but the pimps quickly abuse their power and force their women to keep whoring.

Whores* are forced to whore by men (the pimps), the service is purchased by men (the johns), and the threat of violence is always implied at every stage of the process. Johns might beat a whore to death for not performing, or because they don't want to pay, or because they feel like it; a pimp will beat up the whore he's supposed to "protect" if he thinks she's withholding his cut, or seeing other men, or because he feels like it, and beating her up makes him look more fearsome to other pimps. The law won't protect a whore because what she does is against the law, and if she goes missing the police tend not to care. (See: Willie Pickton, Rex Heuermann, or any other number of murderers who target whores because of their vulnerability.)

Even if the government legalized whoring, the whore's lot doesn't really improve much. Instead of having a man be your pimp, the government is now your pimp, and you're vulnerable to violence at the hands of whomever the government entrusts to manage you, and the same old excuses still work to cover those peoples' asses the way they do in illegal prostitution.

**I prefer this term to "prostitutes" (too academic) and "sex workers" (too whitewashy), it's not meant to be offensive.
Men dickride the pop culture version of stoicism, tease their friends for being bluepilled womanly hysterical faggots if they try talking about their feelings, insist all psych meds are evil and turn you into a limp wristed cuck, and view any media depiction of sensitive/emotionally mature men as unrealistic emasculated wish fulfillment written by women. Yet somehow "male loneliness" and men being more willing to blow their head off than start a journal is women's fault and problem.

I'm not even a fan of talk therapy, but how different is it really from all the venting men unload on their wives/girlfriends for free lol (until their partner is sick of constantly having to solve all their emotional problems without them making an effort to improve, at which point they might move onto a mistress who makes them feel "appreciated" and "valued" but is really just a new outlet).
The difference is that if a man seeks out a professional therapist, 1) they'd have to pay her, and 2) that person would actually have some training and formal experience in helping people deal with their issues. But why would the men even want to try something that might work when they can just unload on their wives and GFs and then get pissed off at the wives and GFs when they're unequipped to provide helpful advice and reflection like a real therapist could? Men love getting angry at women, so in their minds, it's a win:win, he gets to save money and have yet another reason to be pissed off at his GF.

The penis stuff with moids has always made me laugh. They think about it so much more than women do.
Trans people are freaks, but it is at least somewhat instructive to see what MTFs and FTMs find important and necessary to "become" the opposite sex. MTFs try to live out some bimboification sissy fantasy, they seek out giant implausible boob implants, and they dress like the slutty teenage girls they read about in manga. FTMs get a bunch of tattoos, they pick up "masculine" hobbies, go get jobs in construction, they grow moustaches and beards, and they get weird and obsessive about their packers and rotdicks.

They aren't whining about actual injustice being done when cases of false accusations do happen, they are whining because they now face actual repercussions when they make women feel uncomfortable and women not having to put up with them with their attempts at flirting or saying things nobody wants to hear, because if women 10-20 years ago were to express discomfort they would be called buzzkills or too sensitive for not getting on with the program.
At least 70% of the ire directed towards MeToo is men who are upset that women can talk about their experiences of sexual assault in a public setting and other women are willing to believe what they say. Sex abuse thrives when it's considered to "shameful" to discuss, and when other people won't believe victims' testimony. MeToo has rugged that status quo a little and the men are having trouble adjusting to the idea that women are empowered to talk about these things outside of a woman-only space, in voices louder than a whisper.
 
Moids don’t need psychotherapy, they need speech therapy. They have to first learn to interact with women normally before they should attempt anything more complex than that. 99% of moid problems stem from them being unable to communicate effectively.
wym? according to mongs on A&N we're the ones who need an attitude adjustment. In fact we should be grateful to be stalked and harassed by desperate moids because we were polite to them exactly once, and if you aren't flattered you're a shrill BPD post-wall hag. No wonder modern dating is fucked for men, can't even sexually harass her at work and retaliate when she rejects you without cat ladies screeching about it 🙄
 
This is a friendly reminder there is no such thing as reformed fuckboy and never ever marry fuckboys .

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AIW: For following "Don't ask Don't Tell" policy in our marriage? (self.BestofRedditorUpdates)
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I am not OP. That is u/ta-dadt who posted to amiwrong
Original Post June 1st, 2024
I have been having arguments with my wife and standing my ground on a policy we made when we were dating. However, somehow, I feel I might be in the wrong, and wanted to get neutral opinion on the issue.
For context, may wife and I are both in our mid 30s, and deeply religious (Please don't judge us on this). She is quick to judge people who do not have the same belief system as her. I also like our modest lifestyle and how great of a wife she has been.
However, I was not always like this. I grew up in a small religious town in south where our social life revolved around the church. I worked very hard to get into a college on east coast as far away from my town. As any person who has repressed his desires for years, I had a very wild college life and slept with a lot of girls. After I graduated, I continued to be the same until I met a girl who became deeply emotionally involved with me (despite I clearly communicating I wanted to date casually), could not take the fact that I was with other girls when dating her, and she had an emotional breakdown (thought I was cheating on her). I cared about her too, and it broke something in me. I started therapy and learned that I had a addiction problem and worked very hard to improve myself.

I also joined a church around that time and started appreciating my religious upbringing. I reconnected with my parents and sisters and was celibate for almost 2 years. I only dated with the goal of getting married and met Amy, my wife. We had similar values, and she was saving herself for marriage. I told her about my past and she said that she only cares about my present and future.

As we started getting close, we started discussing sex and she told me that she is worried that it would be painful when we eventually do it. Me, being a stupid buffoon, told her about girls who were virgins when we slept together and how they described their experience. She turned pale like she saw a ghost and we had a big fight. She said I should never mention about my exes and sex life to her ever again as it was disgusting. I agreed and we implemented our "Don't ask don't tell" policy. It basically means she would never ask me about my past and I would never bring it up.

Recently my friend Emily divorced with her husband. Emily was my best friend since childhood (we are from the same town) and also close to my wife. We all live in the same town. Emily and her husband were also part of our church. My wife and I let Emily move in our house while her husband moved out. My wife and I have been helping Emily with some household stuff and getting her life in order. This sometimes involves her calling us in the evening to take care of some stuff or help with her kids.

My wife mentioned to me that she was a bit uncomfortable with me spending alone time with Emily, because now she is now single. However, she understands Emily is like family to me and wants me to help her and her kids in her time

My wife mentioned to me that she was a bit uncomfortable with me spending alone time with Emily, because now she is now single. However, she understands Emily is like family to me and wants me to help her and her kids in her time of need. So, my wife asked me if Emily and I have ever been intimate with her in the past. She knows we never dated, but she wants to know if we ever kissed. The truth is Emily and I were FWB for almost 3 years (until I started therapy). Emily and I always kept it a secret and never told anyone.

I am a changed man now and intend to stay loyal to my wife until I die. I told my wife that it is irrelevant as I am a loyal husband and cannot believe she would think I would be attracted to Emily. I did offer to her that I will not hang out with Emily alone and only go to her place when my wife is with me. My wife did not like me dodging the question and kept on prodding. I invoked our "Don't ask Don't Tell" policy, that we have followed for more than 10 years now.

My wife is upset at me that I am not giving her a straight answer. I, on the other hand feel that it is unfair to me to tell her about Emily now when she forbade me to talk about it for all these years. I know that there is a good possibility that my wife would again freak out after knowing the truth, and most probably ask me to never see Emily again.

I wanted opinions on what I should do in this case. Am I wrong to keep the truth from my wife because we made a promise to never bring up my past (which is horrible when I think about it now). Or, is my wife in the wrong to break our policy by asking me about Emily?
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I posted a few days ago regarding not telling my wife that my best friend and I were FWB long time ago. I did this because my wife did not want to know about my horrible past and we had a "Don't ask Don't Tell" policy in our marriage. I thank all of you for your comments and confirming what I already knew in my mind. Lying to my wife and keeping my past from her was never my intention, but we have been married for 10 years now and I did not risk losing my wife's trust and respect over something that happened 14 years ago.

I talked to my wife over the weekend. The truth was far more horrible than what I wrote in the previous post. I sat my wife down and told her that I want to come clean and tell her about everything. I told her that I have some conditions though. Firstly, I will not give a yes and no answer to her question and she will have to listen to all the details. She can judge me but has to know that I am not the man I was at that time. I was a horrible, morally bankrupt person before she met me, but through God, family and therapy, I have overcome my demons and work every day to repent my sins. Secondly, she will have to answer questions about her feelings truthfully to me after she hears about my past. She agreed.

I told her the truth about Emily and me. Emily and I were friends since high school. While I went to college, Emily stayed home and started a job. She was dating my friend Josh since high school. I discovered a whole new world in college and found myself drawn to behaviors that I knew were against God's will, including engaging in sexual relationships with multiple partners at a time. It was like a game for me. Once, I was visiting my parents over a break and Emily was curious about my college life. I described my sexual experiences to her and she kept asking more and more questions. One thing led to another and we started sleeping together. Josh and Emily were saving themselves for marriage and waiting for Josh to get a steady job. This lasted for 3 years, and Emily and I hooked up every time I visited home. It was our little secret.

When I finally decided to seek help, I informed Emily about it. She made me promise to never talk about our fling to anyone. I felt guilty never telling the truth to Josh, but she broke up with Josh soon after. I rediscovered my spirituality and recognized the importance of repentance and recognition of my personal sin. Since then, I have lived a very disciplined life and have been a loyal husband to my wife.

Amy had tears in her eyes, and I really was scared that she would leave me after hearing about my horrible past. However, she told me that she still stands by the fact that she cares about my present and my future and would never judge me. She said that God, in his infinite mercy, did not abandon me. My wife assured me that she loves me and always will. She trusts me, but just wanted to know about Emily since things have changed now.

I asked her if any of my actions suggested that disloyal and why Emily. She told me that when Emily's husband's affair came to light, it was very shocking how such an upstanding god-fearing man would have years long affair with his coworker and father a child out of wedlock. This was not an isolated incident as we had similar incidents happen in our church during the last few years. Amy told me that it just shook her to the core. Amy was the one who suggested Emily and kids to move in with us until her husband moved out of their family home. Emily only stayed with us for a week.

Emily started calling us a lot as we supported her through this rough time. However, it bothered my wife that Emily would just call me during evenings after work (after her kids went to sleep) for support. We would just sit and talk for 30 - 45 minutes and I would leave. The final straw was a week ago when we all went to a park with Emily's kids, and I was chasing them while my wife and Emily were talking. Emily told me my wife that I would one day be a great father and how much I love her kids. She told my wife to start trying harder to have kids so that we can complete our family and hopefully god would make me a father soon. My wife has struggled with infertility issues and despite trying every medical procedure, God has still not blessed us with a child. I have suggested adoption, but my wife says that God will hear our prayers and we just have to try as hard as we can.

Amy said that her discussion with Emily made her feel incomplete and bad that she is not able to make me a father. Her head started spiraling and she started thinking that since I love Emily's kids and Emily is now single, I might leave her to go to Emily. That was the reason she wanted to know if Emily and I were ever romantically involved.

I assured Amy that I would never betray her, and she is enough for me. It was very emotional to see her feel bad about things she cannot control. I also am to blame as I am sure god is punishing her for my sins in the past. However, I intend to be loyal to the woman who literally saved me and be the best husband possible. I again thank all of you for being frank and straight-forward and helping me tell my wife about my past.

link: https://old.reddit.com/r/BestofRedd...w_for_following_dont_ask_dont_tell_policy_in/
 
Men dickride the pop culture version of stoicism, tease their friends for being bluepilled womanly hysterical faggots if they try talking about their feelings
Funniest thing is that is very likely that they idiolize somebody like Napoleon or Bismarck. Men of the past used flowerly language (girly thing btw) or talked about how they felt ar the moment (girly thing too) in their writings if you actually bother to look up their private letters. Most men they idiolize were only stoic in public. They don't want to admit that.
For whatever reason those modern "alpha" males oppose the idea of romanticism, even though they completly romanticize manhood, warfare and romantic paintings.
 
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