Official Kiwifarms Incel Hate Thread

Its not marketed or appealing to men and fags, and half of the "boyfriends" are women and genderspecials, therefore not appealing to straight women either, so nobody cares. Unfortunately thats common with western "otome" like games.
It was marketed to Tumblr. The KPOP idol with crippling depression was honestly a good piece of Tumblr bait.

Really though if you look at the games subforum on this site they'll seethe and shake about the mere existence of a game and don't even care if it only sold five copies.
 
VAWA and violence against society at large is another possibility;
Kinda alarmist, don't you think?

although few incels actually become Elliot Rodger style mass killers, but an extremely high proportion of mass killers have incel traits.
Citation needed.

Unless you really get to the root cause of why incels are so miserable (which is usually that they're autistic, don't have friends of either sex, and they haven't developed proper social skills and coping mechanisms to deal with their autism) then the problem is just going to get worse.
Mind expanding on your speculation?
 
I’m going to tentatively post here under the assumption that this not a DMZ so I will not be lynched from the lolcow salon.

Any way, I just wanted to say that I no longer give any advice to men I know who desperately want a gf. The more advice you try to give them, no matter how good, will fall on def ears (even though I have a fucking fiancé so it’s not like I know anything about women) I just tell them that they don’t deserve a women and make fun of them.

Man can’t change unless there is active negative reinforcement. Men need to be pushed to take action. I’m so fucking sick of hearing a constant circle jerk about how people will try to “lift” each other up instead of calling them what they are 90% of the time, a fat disgusting loser.
Unless they are a guy that is actively trying to improve themselves, then I will continuously bully them until they help themselves or get a gf. Either way, I no longer have to hear them bitching.
 
Any way, I just wanted to say that I no longer give any advice to men I know who desperately want a gf. The more advice you try to give them, no matter how good, will fall on def ears (even though I have a fucking fiancé so it’s not like I know anything about women) I just tell them that they don’t deserve a women and make fun of them.
Tell them to start dealing drugs. If they don't take your advice, just point it out every time they start whining and remind them that they'd be getting high velocity pussy thrown at them if they just sold a little bit of drugs. If they do take your advice, tell the police on them.
 
Tell them to start dealing drugs. If they don't take your advice, just point it out every time they start whining and remind them that they'd be getting high velocity pussy thrown at them if they just sold a little bit of drugs. If they do take your advice, tell the police on them.
I don’t think even the most desperate of men will want people like foodie beauty or Keffals
 
men who desperately want a gf
Men should stop focusing on getting girls and focus on spiritual self betterment for God's sake. Girls will come in their own time and no one can change that. What can be changed is oneself.

Same advice goes for women bitching about not being able to find a good man.
 
Men should stop focusing on getting girls and focus on spiritual self betterment for God's sake. Girls will come in their own time and no one can change that. What can be changed is oneself.

Same advice goes for women bitching about not being able to find a good man.
I met my Fiancé when I decided to only focus on improving myself instead of doings thing to attract women. People want to see you succeeding in your own life and achieving self fulfillment.

When you don’t follow a code, scripture or an inviolable set of ethical principles then you will not achieve any form of fulfillment.
 
Kinda alarmist, don't you think?
No, because I qualified it later in the same sentence: not all incels are mass killers, but way too many mass killers are incels.

Here's a list of known incels who turned to mass violence:
George Sodini
Marc Lepine
Elliot Rodger, Supreme Gentleman - I don't need to link him, just Google him
Chris Harper-Mercer
Armando Hernandez, Jr.
Alek Minassian
Scott Paul Beierle
Jake Davison
Tobias Rathjen
Brandon Andrew Clark
Lyndon McCleod
Brian Isaack Clyde
Mauricio Martinez Garcia
Perpetrator of 2020 Toronto Machete Attack - not named because the offender was a minor at the time of the offense.
Tres Genco
there are many, many more names I could put on this list, of men who explicitly target random women for acts of mass violence after a long history of celibacy. I might do that if the women would like to hear more about them, but this already seems like an exceptionally long list of perpetrators who all agreed that women and their lack of GF were the root cause of their violence.

Citation needed.
Butthurt incel detected.
Mind expanding on your speculation?
Sure. Incels are aggrieved, entitled, and have very little empathy for others. They may get high marks in school, but they are pathologically lonely. They say they want girlfriends, but when asked to elaborate, they seem to want them to act as a living, breathing fucktoy, they want them for social status, but never seem to have any interest or concept of what having a relationship with another person might be like. That simplification of people into living objects that can dispense what you want if you put in the right inputs is a pretty common deficit in autistic people. Incels have very little insight into other people's theory of mind - they have trouble seeing things from anyone's perspective but their own, and that's another common autistic deficit. Incels tend to categorize other people into just a few different buckets - women are Beckies or Stacies, men are Chads or Tyrones. This need to oversimplify other people is common with autism (need to sort and categorize.) Incels tend to describe the world as operating on a series of "rules" that other people don't recognize as true, e.g. they think 90% of the women date 10% of men. Again, this need to simplify interpersonal relationships to a series of rules, and then to treat these rules as if they were natural law, is common in autistics.

I hope that helps, buddy!
 
It's sad how this has to even be a discussion. Men who are psychotically obsessed with sex and women, to the point it turns into hatred, is deranged. The people who advocate for the destruction of women because they themselves can't get laid need to be put on meds. It's even more twisted when they are grooming lonely young men and boys into their sick ideology. Most of them hate trannies and groomers yet they aren't acting any better.
 
Caring for yourself will result in people caring about you.
Not in a selfish way. In fact, you should still care about others in a sacrificial way, not in a "how do I improve my social ranking" kind of way. The more prideful you become, the more ensnared to vices and habits you become, and the further away from God's mercy and aid you drift.
 
I hope that helps, buddy!
I'm gonna give you the benefit of the doubt and ask your definition of incel and if you are conflating virgins and incels.

I mean, it's something like 27%(?) of dudes in the US under 30 reported sexlessness in a 2018 survey. I don't know what the population of dudes under 30 in 2018 was, but I guess it's a large number. And if you ARE conflating virgins with incels, claiming 15 individuals out of probably 100s of thousands shows that the virgin population is a danger to women seems alarmist to me.
 
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Not in a selfish way. In fact, you should still care about others in a sacrificial way, not in a "how do I improve my social ranking" kind of way. The more prideful you become, the more ensnared to vices and habits you become, and the further away from God's mercy and aid you drift.
Right, I think we both are saying the same thing. I think establishing yourself in some root cause that you are willing to stand for will make you cared for, but will improve the community that you are in.

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I’m going to tentatively post here under the assumption that this not a DMZ so I will not be lynched from the lolcow salon.
I'm in a similar position. I find Incels a bit fascinating and I'm curious about finding a realistic solution to their problems. Perhaps this is not the best way to do that but already I've gained some insight.
Well, we used to send the useless men off to war but we haven't had a good one in a while.
This is unironically true. A lot of the type of people who make great soldiers are the people who are kind of the losers of society that don't fit in and do things like watch anime.
I am and also work with people who are really fucked up and I completely understand why they get stuck because if you have no real point of reference for things getting better you basically feel you are being lied to when people say that this time things will get better.
This type of realization is exactly why I am here. I use this site for my own ends, as a source of information that teaches you about how people act.
VAWA and violence against society at large is another possibility; although few incels actually become Elliot Rodger style mass killers, but an extremely high proportion of mass killers have incel traits.
Ah but there is a problem with this reasoning, there are a large amount of people that would commit extremely evil acts if they were capable of doing so. The desire to kill or to hurt is not really rare, impressive, or valuable. It is not the ability to inflict pain which is required but the ability to endure it. Incels do not have this.

Providing incels copious amounts of porn is at best, a band-aid slapped on a horrible infection.
I have believed that it has been true that Porn has been useful in terms of keeping incels compliant. But this discussion has helped me formulate it in the best possible way. Porn keeps Incels from ever being able to become a serious threat. Of course there are some mass shooters and some violence, but not at a level that seriously threatens the status Quo.

The kind of secret of political action is that a lot of it is not feasible in the long term.

(which is usually that they're autistic, don't have friends of either sex, and they haven't developed proper social skills an coping mechanisms to deal with their autism) then the problem is just going to get worse.

Has the number of people with Autism really increased so much that this has occurred? Or is it possible that lot of people with these traits who fall into this category don't receive the proper carrot and sticks to not end up developing this way?

Personal responsibility sure, and I am happy to see punishments administered to incels to force them to change but realistically speaking, the cause isn't Autism somehow becoming like 10x as prevalent. If you try to bring up Autism statistics to me on this one I will point out that testing has changed.
 
I'm gonna give you the benefit of the doubt and ask your definition of incel and if you are conflating virgins and incels.

I mean, it's something like 27%(?) of dudes in the US under 30 reported sexlessness in a 2018 survey. I don't know what the population of dudes under 30 in 2018 was, but I guess it's a large number. And if you ARE conflating virgins with incels, claiming 15 individuals out of probably 100s of thousands shows that the virgin population is a danger to women seems alarmist to me.
Given your username, and "wizards" being a channer term for virgins over 30, I suspect you are not that interested in a good faith discussion about incels. But here we go...
I define incels as:
> celibate (let's say, for 6 months or more)
> desire sexual activity (so, no monks or aces)
> ascribe to incel ideology / identify as incels (or love-shy, or any other equivalent term.)

I also want you to know I've been pretty conservative in that list of incel killers. These guys on the list all openly identified as incel, and/or reposted incel memes, hung out on incel forums, parroted incel ideology, wrote longass manifestos brimming with incel ideas, and so on. There are other mass killers who I think are probably incels, but I left off this list because they didn't explicitly say that they killed because they were mad at women for not dating them.
Ah but there is a problem with this reasoning, there are a large amount of people that would commit extremely evil acts if they were capable of doing so. The desire to kill or to hurt is not really rare, impressive, or valuable. It is not the ability to inflict pain which is required but the ability to endure it. Incels do not have this.
IDK, I just named a decent number of incels who murdered at least one person.
 
I suspect you are not that interested in a good faith discussion
You say that but you ignored the second part of the question and ignored the last bit of my post.

I define incels as:
> celibate (let's say, for 6 months or more)
Ok
> desire sexual activity (so, no monks or aces)
Ok
> ascribe to incel ideology /
Ok
identify as incels
Ok
...or love-shy, or any other equivalent term?
Wat. Are you sure you mean love-shy and not some other term?

It's a reasonable definition but from the last part I don't know if you're casting wider net.

I also want you to know I've been pretty conservative in that list of incel killers.
How conservative?
 
Wat. Are you sure you mean love-shy and not some other term?

It's a reasonable definition but from the last part I don't know if you're casting wider net.
I'm adding a couple weasel words so I can include incel mass killers whose crimes predate the mid-90s term incel, like Marc Lepine. Lepine shot up an engineering college in Quebec in 1989 and left behind a note specifically blaming feminists for ruining his life. He also never had a girlfriend, wanted to kill his sister, and expressed a broad hatred of women in general, and specifically hated women who worked in traditionally-male jobs like engineering. He was not good with women, he was aggrieved, he thought women should not work, and he shot 14 female students fatally, and also wounded another 10 women and 4 men, at an engineering college he wasn't accepted to. He is an incel, through and through.
How conservative?
Stop acting smug, you're a self admitted 30+ virgin.
 
I define incels as:
> celibate (let's say, for 6 months or more)
> desire sexual activity (so, no monks or aces)
> ascribe to incel ideology / identify as incels (or love-shy, or any other equivalent term.)
The first two don't even matter tbh, pussy doesn't cure somebody of being a hateful blackpilled gremlin. I'm sure it often makes it worse, when they discover the thing they spent years obsessing over and blaming for their misery doesn't actually make them any happier or fulfilled.
 
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