171,300 patients traveled out of state for abortions in 2023 - Of course those who can’t pay should just use a wire hanger am I right bros?


More than 170,000 people have traveled out of state to receive abortion care since January of last year, according to new data from the Guttmacher Institute, a figure underlined by the increasing difficulty to access care in some states.

Out-of-state care accounted for more than 15 percent of the estimated 1 million clinician-provided abortion procedures between 2023 and March of this year, according to the data. That figure has more than doubled since 2020.

“Traveling for abortion care requires individuals to overcome huge financial and logistical barriers, and our findings show just how far people will travel to obtain the care they want and deserve,” Guttmacher data scientist Isaac Maddow-Zimet said in a statement.

“Despite the amazing resiliency of abortion patients and providers, we can’t lose sight of the fact that this is neither normal nor acceptable,” he continued. “A person should not have to travel hundreds or thousands of miles to receive basic health care.”

Fourteen states have near-complete bans on abortion, a rapid change sparked by the Supreme Court’s Dobbs decision in 2022, which overturned a prior federal standard mandating access to abortion procedures.

States that border those with recent near-total bans, such as Kansas and New Mexico, saw a majority of abortions in their state be from out-of-state patients. Texas’s abortion ban is one of the most restrictive in the country.

Florida has also served as a state with relatively easy access to abortion care when compared to its neighbors until earlier this year. The state implemented a strict six-week abortion ban in May.

“The state of residence data makes it clear that this policy change will be devastating not only for Floridians, but also for the thousands of others who would have traveled there after being denied care in their home states,” Guttmacher Vice President Kelly Baden said of Florida’s ban. “Once again, we see that a state’s abortion policies affect thousands of people beyond that state’s borders.”
The new bans could also have political ramifications. Florida is among the states with an abortion rights measure on the ballot this November, and Democrats have hoped to use the referendums to increase turnout.

Two-thirds of the approximately 1 million abortions were via medication, the institute also found. That method was under threat via a federal lawsuit until last week, when the Supreme Court ruled that the federal government does have the authority to limit restrictions on certain abortion medication.
 
Remember when liberals were more concerned with grandstanding on abortion by saying a girl had to go out of state to get one and then it turned out it was because the mother and doctor were trying to hide the illegal spic rapist boyfriend so they couldn't say the girl was raped even though the state allowed abortions in event of rape.

Good times.
 
If any child is impregnated, it is the law in all 50 states that any mandated reporter must alert the police.
Unfortunately the police cannot perform abortions and children in abortion ban states will still be forced to gestate and birth the spawn of their rapists if they can't go out of state (like the Mississippi 13 year old).
 
What's really annoying to me (and A&N isn't the place for it but here we are) is that the core issue really isn't abortion. It's an alarming symptom that women are choosing to have abortions at the rate they are and for the reasons they do. Feminism and sexual liberation has really done a number on pretty much everything, but women most effected, because womanhood has been hollowed out.

It's okay to not have sex, even for a prolonged period of time. You, as a woman, won't die if there isn't a bare dick in you every week, or month, or year. Sex isn't the only fun activity in the world. Sex can have consequences, including pregnancy, so maybe choose who you fuck a little more wisely. You seem to have grasped the idea that the consequences for sex are higher for women than men, perhaps it would be prudent to act that way?
I'm curious on how many of the reasons for abortion statistics are actually true? I can't imagine how shameful rape must be for a lot of women.
And somehow we live in a society that feels rape is more shameful than "if I have a baby I can't afford as many lattes".
 
What's really annoying to me (and A&N isn't the place for it but here we are) is that the core issue really isn't abortion. It's an alarming symptom that women are choosing to have abortions at the rate they are and for the reasons they do. Feminism and sexual liberation has really done a number on pretty much everything, but women most effected, because womanhood has been hollowed out.

It's okay to not have sex, even for a prolonged period of time. You, as a woman, won't die if there isn't a bare dick in you every week, or month, or year. Sex isn't the only fun activity in the world. Sex can have consequences, including pregnancy, so maybe choose who you fuck a little more wisely. You seem to have grasped the idea that the consequences for sex are higher for women than men, perhaps it would be prudent to act that way?

And somehow we live in a society that feels rape is more shameful than "if I have a baby I can't afford as many lattes".
Guess married women are just supposed to stop having sex with their husbands if they don't want or are done having kids.

You also don't have to consent to sex to get pregnant (or else children would never get pregnant).

Btw, before safe and reliable methods of abortion and contraception, women just smothered or drowned unwanted newborns. There was no time period women magically didn't have sex or were able to care for the results of all pregnancies.
 
Embryos aren't babies
How are they not? They're human, they're living, they're distinct from their mother and they aren't just "clumps of cells." Those clumps are called tissues. Embryos, even very early on in development have a full suite of organs with (depending on the stage of development) varying degrees of functionality, use and autonomy.

Don't forget kids, as long as you don't use any pressure suffocating a newborn with a wet rag is indistinguishable from SIDS at autopsy!
If you're this deranged, just say it with your chest. You advocate for murdering babies, don't try to dissemble with semantics. You're obviously cool with murdering infants.
 
Unfortunately the police cannot perform abortions and children in abortion ban states will still be forced to gestate and birth the spawn of their rapists if they can't go out of state (like the Mississippi 13 year old).
There is no state where a minor cannot get an abortion in a lifesaving emergency.

Mississippi had an exception for rape.
 
Allow me to clear something up:

There is no jurisdiction in the USA where a woman cannot anonymously give her child up to the authorities for adoption, no questions asked, 24 hours a day, any day of the year.

Less than 1% of all abortion cases involved rape. If you really wanted, special consideration could be debated on that.
I am glad that women can surrender their child, however we still need to address the high maternal mortality rate and cost of giving birth in a hospital. As well as postpartum care. Giving birth in the US seems very expensive
 
Guess married women are just supposed to stop having sex with their husbands if they don't want or are done having kids.

You also don't have to consent to sex to get pregnant (or else children would never get pregnant).

Btw, before safe and reliable methods of abortion and contraception, women just smothered or drowned unwanted newborns. There was no time period women magically didn't have sex or were able to care for the results of all pregnancies.
I mean, I knew A&N wasn't the place for it, I deserve this.

SO ANYWAYS, THE CATHOLIC CHURCH...
 
There is no state where a minor cannot get an abortion in a lifesaving emergency.

Mississippi had an exception for rape.
It has an exception on paper but not in practice. There are no guidelines for how medical providers are supposed to go about reporting and getting permission for those exceptions, so the legal teams are still denying abortions for children who were raped.

The lack of practical guidelines for how the exceptions work is absolutely on purpose.
 
I am glad that women can surrender their child, however we still need to address the high maternal mortality rate and cost of giving birth in a hospital. As well as postpartum care. Giving birth in the US seems very expensive
Unfortunate. The medical industry is filled with scum. Much of the care after childbirth is covered by insurance, but yes, the $18,000 bill is unfortunate.
 
How are they not? They're human, they're living, they're distinct from their mother and they aren't just "clumps of cells." Those clumps are called tissues. Embryos, even very early on in development have a full suite of organs with (depending on the stage of development) varying degrees of functionality, use and autonomy.
A baby!
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I had to drive out-of-state for a non-lifesaving procedure that wasn't available in my area before, it's not some human rights violation to have to tack gas, tolls and food on to what was already something insurance wasn't gonna cover.
 
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Also the statistics for abortion due to rape are almost certainly lowballing it given how many rapes never get reported.

Men actually bail on their kids and never pay child support all the time. It's not hard to avoid paying child support, especially if you relinquish all parental rights.

If nothing else men just work under the table so they have no legal income. Don't have to pay shit if you have no legal income.

It's a lot harder for women to un-rip their taints or undo psychosis.
"No."
This one word, said 9 months in advance, works something like 99.97% of the time (actually more effective than that since not all rape results in pregnancy) with no side effects. You're treating pregnancy as the inciting action to the dilemma when it's actually sex, which can be either denied (no bodily risk at all from pregnancy) or responsibly enjoyed (condoms and birth control combined put you comfortably in a 90+% risk reduction). If you're worried about the health risks of childbirth, you dun goofed already 99.9% of the time.

Also you can't just surrender paternal rights to get out of child support. You still have to pay, with the exception being that you AND the mother are surrendering (say, for adoption) or you go through a court process to transfer rights to a step-parent (and you still might owe even then). Your other argument about working under the table is retarded. If your retort to "Men can't legally abandon their children like women can" is "Sure they can, they just have to break the law," you've lost the plot.
 
Don't forget Aid Access and Plan C Pills. When used as directed medication abortion is extremely safe and indistinguishable from a normal miscarriage. However the pills are less effective later in gestation (so women who just learned their fetus is incompatible with life at 25+ weeks are still screwed sadly).

Takes a lot more than a suit case to travel out of state for an abortion, especially for poor girls and women who already have children (which are a good chunk of patients struggling to afford going out of state for abortions).

Tell the truth. The pills work fine throughout. Those same pills can induce labor at full term, with an 85% success rate. They can stop postpartum hemorrhage, too. They contract the uterus, they do not care what is inside it.

The problem is that it just expels the baby at that point, and at the 22+ week point they're born alive. So you have to make some real tough choices right in front of you, instead of having doctors make those choices for you. Some people might say that if a person can't handle that, maybe they have no business going and getting someone else to see the sin they wouldn't commit themselves.
 
Guess married women are just supposed to stop having sex with their husbands if they don't want or are done having kids.

You also don't have to consent to sex to get pregnant (or else children would never get pregnant).

Btw, before safe and reliable methods of abortion and contraception, women just smothered or drowned unwanted newborns. There was no time period women magically didn't have sex or were able to care for the results of all pregnancies.
I think my husbands feelings would be hurt if I consistently denied him sex. Any spouse would probably feel a bit sore. I think he’d also be mortified if we were to have a sudden and unwanted pregnancy. As most people would feel.

I’m surprised that people even argue to stop having sex as if there aren’t plenty of married women who chose to terminate their pregnancy.
 
Tell the truth. The pills work fine throughout. Those same pills can induce labor at full term, with an 85% success rate. They can stop postpartum hemorrhage, too. They contract the uterus, they do not care what is inside it.

The problem is that it just expels the baby at that point, and at the 22+ week point they're born alive. So you have to make some real tough choices right in front of you, instead of having doctors make those choices for you. Some people might say that if a person can't handle that, maybe they have no business going and getting someone else to see the sin they wouldn't commit themselves.
It might be born alive at 22+ weeks but it probably won't be alive for very long, especially if there's something seriously wrong with it.
 
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