171,300 patients traveled out of state for abortions in 2023 - Of course those who can’t pay should just use a wire hanger am I right bros?


More than 170,000 people have traveled out of state to receive abortion care since January of last year, according to new data from the Guttmacher Institute, a figure underlined by the increasing difficulty to access care in some states.

Out-of-state care accounted for more than 15 percent of the estimated 1 million clinician-provided abortion procedures between 2023 and March of this year, according to the data. That figure has more than doubled since 2020.

“Traveling for abortion care requires individuals to overcome huge financial and logistical barriers, and our findings show just how far people will travel to obtain the care they want and deserve,” Guttmacher data scientist Isaac Maddow-Zimet said in a statement.

“Despite the amazing resiliency of abortion patients and providers, we can’t lose sight of the fact that this is neither normal nor acceptable,” he continued. “A person should not have to travel hundreds or thousands of miles to receive basic health care.”

Fourteen states have near-complete bans on abortion, a rapid change sparked by the Supreme Court’s Dobbs decision in 2022, which overturned a prior federal standard mandating access to abortion procedures.

States that border those with recent near-total bans, such as Kansas and New Mexico, saw a majority of abortions in their state be from out-of-state patients. Texas’s abortion ban is one of the most restrictive in the country.

Florida has also served as a state with relatively easy access to abortion care when compared to its neighbors until earlier this year. The state implemented a strict six-week abortion ban in May.

“The state of residence data makes it clear that this policy change will be devastating not only for Floridians, but also for the thousands of others who would have traveled there after being denied care in their home states,” Guttmacher Vice President Kelly Baden said of Florida’s ban. “Once again, we see that a state’s abortion policies affect thousands of people beyond that state’s borders.”
The new bans could also have political ramifications. Florida is among the states with an abortion rights measure on the ballot this November, and Democrats have hoped to use the referendums to increase turnout.

Two-thirds of the approximately 1 million abortions were via medication, the institute also found. That method was under threat via a federal lawsuit until last week, when the Supreme Court ruled that the federal government does have the authority to limit restrictions on certain abortion medication.
 
And yet, I see arguments for the death penalty every day on this site. I wish there was consistency. I don't agree with the Church on a lot of things, but at least they believe in "conception to natural death." They are consistent in their pro-life stance.
Even if we pretend everyone who opposes abortion favors the death penalty (this is definitely not the case), the reasoning for the killing is entirely different. The death penalty aims to remove from society someone who has done one of a very few ultimate types of evil to another person- usually premeditated murder aggravated by additional factors such as robbery or rape. Abortion aims to "undo" the life of an innocent person who has done nothing wrong, because that person's existence is inconvenient to someone who has the power to cause their death.
 
Even if we pretend everyone who opposes abortion favors the death penalty (this is definitely not the case), the reasoning for the killing is entirely different. The death penalty aims to remove from society someone who has done one of a very few ultimate types of evil to another person- usually premeditated murder aggravated by additional factors such as robbery or rape. Abortion aims to "undo" the life of an innocent person who has done nothing wrong, because that person's existence is inconvenient to someone who has the power to cause their death.
And the most common reason people advise on the death penalty (at least on here) is because they do not want the inconvenience of having to pay to house a scumbag for the rest of their natural life. Life is inconvenient for the taxpayer, be it a child who needs health care and education, or a sonofabitch-rapist-murderer.
 
Instead of having real sex, have you considered browsing articles of subject matters that upset you on the Kiwi Farms? We have these things called stickers and plenty of people seem to get off on both giving and receiving them. Pleasure to pain ratio appears to be congruent so there’s a little something for everyone
Lame. I prefer getting set on fire by my daddy dom. (sexually) Can't get pregnant if you're fucking fire.
 
You're completely dodging the difference between killing an innocent life and the life of an unrepentant scumbag.
I'm not. I'm saying that the Catholics are right. Right to life includes all life. It's one of the few stances they take that isn't hypocritical.
>Thinking that your child, half of you, is a scumbag.
How much do you hate yourself to view your offspring that way?
My husband and I are both scumbags. That would make any child we have full blooded scumbag. Can't stop genetics.
 
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Murdering someone who is inconveniencing you is the opposite of "being responsible."
I know, would be way more responsible to have just aborted them as an embryo.
Even if we pretend everyone who opposes abortion favors the death penalty (this is definitely not the case), the reasoning for the killing is entirely different. The death penalty aims to remove from society someone who has done one of a very few ultimate types of evil to another person- usually premeditated murder aggravated by additional factors such as robbery or rape. Abortion aims to "undo" the life of an innocent person who has done nothing wrong, because that person's existence is inconvenient to someone who has the power to cause their death.
Nah that's what happens when you force children to give birth

Embryos aren't people
 
And the most common reason people advise on the death penalty (at least on here) is because they do not want the inconvenience of having to pay to house a scumbag for the rest of their natural life.
Concerns about the cost of incarceration are secondary or even tertiary compared to concerns about such an individual having the opportunity to rape and murder again- even if the victim is "merely" a fellow prisoner or a guard.
 
I'm not. I'm saying that the Catholics are right. Right to life includes all life. It's one of the few stances they take that isn't hypocritical.

My husband and I are both scumbags. That would make any child we have full blooded scumbag. Can't stop genetics.
You can do things to have the right of life revoked. Raping, killing, all that bad shit. What has a fetus done?
 
Every state has legality exemptions for rape, incest, etc. (The fringe cases.)

If you don't fall into those categories, and you want to abort out of convivence, you can travel to New Jersey, Vermont, etc. and get an abortion up to the point of birth. You can probably even terminate after if you can get a sympathetic doctor to give you a SIDS diagnosis. Thats an intended part of a federal system.

If you can't travel to a different state, you can literally have abortion drugs mailed to you, either by an NGO, a pharmaceutical company, or a friend or family member thanks to last week's Supreme Court Decision.

Besides being mad that someone put the slightest of barriers in place to kill your own offspring, what are you even mad about?
 
What I really hate about this discourse is that if you disagree with some points from either side you're either a nazi incel poltard Christian chud moid who wants to rape and destroy women or a dumb lefty feminazi foid slut who wants to shred babies to make into pepperoni and worship satan.
No fucking nuance or middle ground.
 
Most parents who had their child accidentally will still tell you its the best thing that happened to them.

Given the way I have seen people say that exact thing, with unfocused, glazed over looks, I'm not terribly convinced it's something they believe, and not just something they are expected to say according to societal expectations.

it's not like she's being unreasonably pro-choice (at least from what I've read so far.)

Keep reading.
 
Niggers rape negresses a lot. While there are clear social benefits to dispatching as many niglets as possible before they gestate, it's not like their mothers would start voting Republican if we did.
While in the abstract I want less niggers just like any sane person, nigger infanticide is still bad too.

Abortion is in the constitution?
Funny thing is anti-abortion is what's actually in the Constitution.
 
“Traveling for abortion care requires individuals to overcome huge financial and logistical barriers, and our findings show just how far people will travel to obtain the care they want and deserve,”
So is trying to make ends meet while crime goes up. We all suffer.
 
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