Fat Acceptance Movement / Fat Girlcows

Menopause occurs when a woman has gone 12 consecutive months without a period.

The time leading up to that is peri-menopause. During peri-menopause, the body is still producing hormones and is capable of releasing eggs. Menstrual cycles may be erratic or intermittent. It may be more difficult to conceive during peri-menopause, but not impossible. (Peri-menopause can last up to 10 years or longer.)

Once menopause is reached, fertility is less likely. BUT there’s always the possibility. Women can go 10, 11 months without a period and figure they are done… then BAM! One last one - resetting the 12-month clock.

All it takes is a single viable egg. As long as there is a follicle still lurking about in there, an egg can be released at any point.

12 months after the last period, you are post-menopausal.

Fun fact: women who become pregnant during menopause can have cryptic pregnancies. This is because they assume the symptoms of pregnancy are just symptoms of menopause- lack of periods, bloating, fatigue, nausea etc.

More fun fact: women who have had a hysterectomy can get pregnant if they still have at least one ovary. The egg can be fertilized in the pelvic/abdominal cavity, and the embryo can attach to the intestine or other organs. This ectopic pregnancy is usually not viable (unless you’re on grey’s anatomy), and can be life-threatening.
Did you learn this on that "I didn't know I was pregnant" show? 'cause now I can see how that actually happens...
 
Did you learn this on that "I didn't know I was pregnant" show? 'cause now I can see how that actually happens...
Personal and professional experience.

Professionally I have had patients with cryptic pregnancies.

Personally, a family member… she was peri- menopausal, and had recently been divorced. She assumed she was sterile because in her entire marriage they never conceived.

Turns out it was her ex that was shooting blanks. And she didn’t realize she was pregnant because she assumed her symptoms were due to menopause. She clued in around month 6. It’s not like she was fat or anything either. She was pretty petite overall, and just didn’t really show. Until 5-6 months in, when she started looking extremely pregnant. And that’s how she became a first-time mom at age 48 after having a one-night-stand on vacation.
 
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She gives credit to God for saving her life and helping her overcome major health issues by the time she was six—only to spend the rest of her life eating herself into major health issues, disability, and (because you know it's going to happen) a premature death.

Tell us again, Evie, why God should give you any more miracles, given the way you've pissed away not only that big one in early childhood , but every single one since?
 
Personally, a family member… she was peri- menopausal, and had recently been divorced. She assumed she was sterile because in her entire marriage they never conceived.
I know more than one family with ‘a last unexpected baby’ because they got sloppy about contraception in the late forties.
You’re more likely to pop out multiple eggs at once as well I think, and one of those families had unexpected triplets in their late forties. Very much loved and a blessing, but man they are tired and they had to buy a van instead of a car
 
Hoo boy, haven't checked in on Michelle Elman in a while. This gorl is an heir to the Hong Kong Elmans but has "built a career" as an author and life coach. Her IG over the years is just filled with her on yachts in HK and elsewhere but she never ever publicly has admitted she's just being puffed up by her billionaire families wealth.

Well, funnily enough she got engaged and then this happened. Of course it did. She's a fucking idiot, if she wasn't insanely wealthy she'd be a bartender or ditch digger. She isn't a "life coach" she's a fat moron.

This woman epitomizes the old axiom that one cannot buy class. It's almost worthy of pity.
 
This might not fit the thread but it was on r/PlusSize and funny. Don’t know where else to put it.

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First time asking a guy out! Here’s the plan :)
First time asking a guy out! Here’s the plan :)

First he’ll get in the car and he’ll follow the little hearts until he finds the axolotl :) then I’ll tell him to check the back seat where he will find a basket of snacks! Cotton candy, chocolate, bubble gum, orange juice. (and other stuff) I also bought him with $40 Jett puff protein powder he’s been talking about :)))

I can’t wait to see his reaction. I really wanted to make him feel special.
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It's cute, but frankly it looks like a penis and I'd have to be into the girl already. I think she forgot the part where the guy has to be into it. That isn't an insignificant part.
It's cute in a teenage sort of way but looking at the ham hock hand in the one photo this gorl is already pushing 4 bills. Even a horny teen would need to be absolutely out of his mind for pussy to consider that. I wonder if he was just being nice to her unlike most people and she thought it meant...whatever this is.
 
She gives credit to God for saving her life and helping her overcome major health issues by the time she was six—only to spend the rest of her life eating herself into major health issues, disability, and (because you know it's going to happen) a premature death.

Tell us again, Evie, why God should give you any more miracles, given the way you've pissed away not only that big one in early childhood , but every single one since?
Every year, 1800 American children die from cancer. Undoubtedly, every single one of them deserved a miracle. I guess it's hard for me to be too upset if Evie doesn't receive any more.

It's cute, but frankly it looks like a penis and I'd have to be into the girl already. I think she forgot the part where the guy has to be into it. That isn't an insignificant part.
I'm happy to be corrected on this, but I assume most men aren't really into stuffed animals, and if this one were among them, the woman would be aware. I cannot imagine a situation in which I would give a plushie to an adult man who didn't have an apparent intellectual disability.

I would also be a bit weirded out to receive an entire basket of junk food from someone with an obvious weight problem. She's basically telling him that if he dates her, he's going to put on 50 pounds in the first six months.

On the bright side, I'm sure the woman who posted this enjoyed eating the basket of snacks (while crying). See, every cloud has a silver lining!
 
Just to follow up on the axolotl saga:
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The poster is 18, so an idiot in the ways of relationships and love. May this be a lesson that guys aren’t into that shit and he was very much not into her to blow her off like that. You live and you learn.

She’s fat but not orca fat, just a big, terminally online nerd girl. Literally touching grass and getting away from screens would do her a world of good.
 
Just to follow up on the axolotl saga:
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The poster is 18, so an idiot in the ways of relationships and love. May this be a lesson that guys aren’t into that shit and he was very much not into her to blow her off like that. You live and you learn.

She’s fat but not orca fat, just a big, terminally online nerd girl. Literally touching grass and getting away from screens would do her a world of good.
It's cute in a teenage sort of way but looking at the ham hock hand in the one photo this gorl is already pushing 4 bills. Even a horny teen would need to be absolutely out of his mind for pussy to consider that. I wonder if he was just being nice to her unlike most people and she thought it meant...whatever this is.

Every year, 1800 American children die from cancer. Undoubtedly, every single one of them deserved a miracle. I guess it's hard for me to be too upset if Evie doesn't receive any more.


I'm happy to be corrected on this, but I assume most men aren't really into stuffed animals, and if this one were among them, the woman would be aware. I cannot imagine a situation in which I would give a plushie to an adult man who didn't have an apparent intellectual disability.

I would also be a bit weirded out to receive an entire basket of junk food from someone with an obvious weight problem. She's basically telling him that if he dates her, he's going to put on 50 pounds in the first six months.

On the bright side, I'm sure the woman who posted this enjoyed eating the basket of snacks (while crying). See, every cloud has a silver lining!
If he was into her, he would put up with it. It is cute from a cute, likeable girl. The difference between creepy infantalist and sweet girly things are the feelings about the girl. He's not into the girl. It's not what she did. It's that she did it. If Sofia Vergara did it, it would be cute.

It's cool when you like a girl and she likes you back and she does ANYTHING to confirm she wants you to ask her out. Similarly, it is a nightmare when a girl does it and you're not into her. And men are dogs: If he never thought about her that way, it's more of a turnoff. If he only liked her as a ditchpig, he's a bad guy, but it's truth.
 
Similarly, it is a nightmare when a girl does it and you're not into her.
This is a near-universal human experience, I think.

Since she's only 18 and not even that fat, I feel slightly bad for laughing at the image of her sobbing into a bucket of snacks. Only slightly, though.
 
What the hell is wrong with her eyes? Is it some kind of permanent pink eye, is it due to her body storing FAT in her eyeballs, just what the fuck?!
She always looks like she's been crying. It's her default state. Darkening in the eye area is a sign of metabolic dysfunction, which we know she has in spades. And the eyeball redness is either from obesity-induced chronic inflammation, poor sleep quality resulting from obstructive sleep apnea, or both. Or maybe she's really always crying. I would be if I were her.
 
A few selections from a HAES parenting group on FB. This is some of the worst HAES shit I've ever seen, these poor parents are totally convinced that telling little Janie she can't have a ninth Toaster Strudel will instantly cause fatal anorexia.

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My 9yr awesome daughter is showing the signs of being pre-diabetic. Her weight (150pds at 4'11), darkening skin in folds, and skin tags. Her doctor ordered labs 6 months ago but I don't know how to bring the conversation up with her so she doesn't feel singled out. I am at a loss for words. This is such a painful journey and I'm having trouble balancing addressing this.
Even encouraging movement or trying to see a HAES dietician is still something I struggle with because deep down it still feels like I'm trying to "fix" something about her so I have been completely avoiding any sort of conversations with her.
Help please

The responses predictably tell OP not to worry. It's not acanthosis nigricans, it's just dry skin!
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Oof that has to feel incredibly stressful and heartbreaking to see signs which indicate there may be something going on with your kiddo.
Roxy makes a great point, there are many things that these symptoms can point to including aging, dry skin, and genetics.
ADA, along with the European Association for the Study of Diabetes (EASD) and the International Diabetes Federation (IDF) formed a committee in 2009 to review research on a diagnostic blood sugar test, A1c and ended up unanimously rejecting the term prediabetes, saying it implies that prediabetic patients eventually will get diabetes and everyone else won't—"neither of which is the case." The ADA has since expanded their definition and now actively advise diagnosis as a means of intervention but the WHO rejects pre-diabetes as a diagnosis. Many people with this diagnosis will never develop the disease and in fact may not even remain in the prediabetes range. I hope this gives you some peace of mind.
Did you get the results back from the doctor? Six months seems like a long time to wait for labs.
If you do need to have a talk, you don’t need to make it about her body size, or even what she eats. It’s really not about those things. Adolescent diabetes can present in any child regardless of what their body looks like or what they eat - there’s a massive genetic factor involved. If it does turn out that she has diabetes, they conversation should be about her body’s specific needs. Some of us have bodies that do have specific needs and she will be in that boat if she develops diabetes but it really does not need to be about how her body is shaped and sized.
When you get your labs back and are able to determine if she has diabetes or not, you can start making a plan for treatment but in the meantime I would not worry about having any conversation with her at all.
I believe Diana Rice know a considerable amount about Diabetes so she may correct me if I’m wrong in any of the above…
Sending you lots of love and support.

In our next post, a fat mom wonders what to do about her fat daughter's obsession with cake, chocolate, chips, etc. Should she serve chocolate with every meal?!?!?!?!?!?
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Please help (and be kind). We’re a two-mom household with a two-year-old daughter. We are clashing (and very confused) about how to offer food.
We’re both big women. Food was heavily restricted for me as a kid, and as a result, I developed binge eating behaviour. I believe this is why I struggle with weight and self-esteem issues. However, my partner grew up with no food restrictions and food was never offered as a reward. My partner thinks she’s overweight because her house had nothing “healthy” in it, such as fruits and veggies. Because of this, my partner wants to teach our kid the value of “healthy” food, and not bring any sweets into the house.
About our daughter: she’s obsessed with all “unhealthy” things, even though we’ve never restricted them, and we don’t actually call food healthy or unhealthy. Chocolate, ice cream, cake, cookies, french fries, potato chips - these are her favorites. My question is this: do I offer a bit of chocolate with every meal? And continue to do this forever? Until she loses interest in it? But then how does the novelty also wear off for the other items? My partner believes our daughter would simply fill up on the chocolate or cookie and refuse anything else.
We’re definitely trying our best, but we feel embarrassed when she’s the only kid who seems to be obsessed with chocolate, cookies, ice cream, etc, and all the other kids her age are eating fruits and veggies. Thanks in advance for any help.

OP receives some great advice, including "Chocolate is yummy!"
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And finally, we have a parent whose kid loves sugary drinks. Wat do? (This person is almost certainly in the U.S. so the "lemonade" is likely as sugary as soda.)
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The answer is obvious, of course. Let the kid have unlimited sugary drinks! Let him drink it til he pukes! It's just a drink! Hydration is good!
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