Star Wars Griefing Thread (SPOILERS) - Safety off

Who's the bigger faggot who ruined the franchise, Rian or Dave?
Dave. He's been ruining Star Wars since 2008.

The signs were there, literally from the first season of Clone Wars, where he took one of Thrawn's most famous fleet tactics from the novels and claimed "Oh, my brilliant padawan prodigy OC Ahsoka came up with it, and she INSPIRED Thrawn to use it." No word of a lie, this shit actually happened, and Wookiepedia changed it to make Ahsoka the originator of the tactic.

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Fast forward to 2008:
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This should have been the warning sign for everything to come next--helicopter lightsabers, time travel, Ahsoka the White, and enough wolf fetishizing to make the yiff-fags at FurAffinity blush.

All that's changed from 2008 to now is that he has more power to wreak weapons-grade cringe across the franchise.
 
Dave. He's been ruining Star Wars since 2008.

The signs were there, literally from the first season of Clone Wars, where he took one of Thrawn's most famous fleet tactics from the novels and claimed "Oh, my brilliant padawan prodigy OC Ahsoka came up with it, and she INSPIRED Thrawn to use it." No word of a lie, this shit actually happened, and Wookiepedia changed it to make Ahsoka the originator of the tactic.


This should have been the warning sign for everything to come next--helicopter lightsabers, time travel, Ahsoka the White, and enough wolf fetishizing to make the yiff-fags at FurAffinity blush.

All that's changed from 2008 to now is that he has more power to wreak weapons-grade cringe across the franchise.
Agreed. Dave is the bigger the problem and the source of the current state of the Galaxy, but fuckin what? This retard gave his OC credit for a concept he didn't even come up with? That's weapons grade autism.

Just how checked out was George to let this kinda shit slide? Or was he too busy trying to tard wrangle Dave on other shit like "No Dave, Plo needs to die because that's how it is in the pictures. Also you need to kill your darlings. Ahsoka needs to die at some point".
She looks like a tranny, is an edgy pagan, and likes murdering babies. Seems about right.
I'll bet George is laughing his ass off up in Skywalker Ranch, receiving gradual vindication for the Prequels and sitting pretty on a $4 Billion horde of plunder.
I'd be willing to bet George isn't laughing and is actually really disappointed in what's happened to his baby. We just don't hear much about his thoughts because the last time he was brutally honest about it he likened the sale to giving his children to literal slavers.
130 million dollars
That is butt-fucking insane. Revenge of The Sith was 113 million and it's still a genuine marvel of special effects and overflowing with practical effects, sets and miniatures. What are they even doing with this money? Cause it certainly isn't going into the production of these shit shows.
Fucking who? That sounds like a sand nigger name...
What are you, retarded?
Oh

Well who gives a shit? They're scraping the bottom of the barrel enough that now they're grabbing random prequels Jedi to ruin. This is a good thing
Oh, guess that answers it.
 
George for selling it to Disney.
He thought he could trust Disney. People have known for decades you shouldn't trust the Mouse.
I guess Cereans are now retconned to be as long-lived as Wookies, Whiphids, Hutts, Vong, etc.
Which makes no sense as they have more females than males. Males would have even shorter lifespans than the females of their species.
 
What are you, retarded?
I'm sorry not sorry that two Clone Wars cartoons doesn't make up for the movies or make any of their characters worth interest in. Especially diseased-penis headed Jedi
Oh, guess that answers it.
The absolute state of thinking a character with a total of ~25 minutes of screen time across three movies and two cartoon series, who had no role in the movies, and existed solely to provide a few lines of episodic exposition, swing his lightsaber a few times, and stand around with the rest of the Jedi Council in the cartoons is memorable or good lol. What does Ki-Adi-Mundi do or say that could not have been done or said by another inconsequential Jedi Master on the Council with no difference whatsoever? Nothing. Oh hey he did gain Anakin's respect in TCW. And he was upset that Aayla Secura and Shaak Ti got hurt fighting Grievous in Genndy Wars. Jedi Master Council member #4 did his job I guess? And he was a good friend
What about the attack on the Wookiees?
Indeed
 
The absolute state of thinking a character with a total of ~25 minutes of screen time across three movies and two cartoon series, who had no role in the movies, and existed solely to provide a few lines of episodic exposition, swing his lightsaber a few times, and stand around with the rest of the Jedi Council in the cartoons is memorable or good lol.
Ki-Adi-Mundi had a lot more involvement in Expanded Universe media, including a whole comic book series where he tracked down a former Jedi who was working with Tusken Raiders on Tatooine.

Lucasfilm took the time to explore and utilize the Jedi Council throughout the prequel stories. There is a reason why people remember Kit Fisto, Adi Gallia, Plo Koon, Ki-Adi-Mundi, Yaddle, Yarael Poof, etc. The fans who engaged with the EU read about these characters and their incredible adventures.

It is a slap in the face to long time fans by adding Mundi to the Acolyte because we know this character. He shouldn’t be here at this time. It demonstrates that the showrunners aren’t long time fans and that there isn’t someone on the team to ensure there aren’t these kinds of errors. What was probably meant as a cameo has led to an unintended retcon, highlighting the lack of consistency in Disney Star Wars.
 
Imagine paying all these people to keep the lore consistent, and they can't even keep the lore consistent on an episodic basis
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What the fuck does the story group even do besides being a parasite upon Disney?
It has already been confirmed that there was no plan for the sequel trilogy, and most of the tv shows have just been Filoni and Favreau pleasuring themselves.
It's a scam right? Disney can't be this stupid right?
Back during the EU days they managed a better job with keeping things consistent.
 
they totally squandered Carrie Fisher
That hurt, honestly.

They also managed to squander Laura Dern. I mean, Laura fucking Dern. You cast her in a film, I expect to see her do some real heavy lifting in the acting department. Particularly with a cast so light on talent (Oscar Isaac aside). But no, why the fuck would that happen.
 
Agreed. Dave is the bigger the problem and the source of the current state of the Galaxy, but fuckin what? This retard gave his OC credit for a concept he didn't even come up with? That's weapons grade autism.
That's how Dave has always been. He's that glue-eating kid on Deviantart who scoops up "rad" and "kewl" traits from other media he likes and tacks them onto his Sonic OC.

Oh, what's that, there's an anime called Princess Mononoke with a girl riding wolves? Not only is Ahsoka going to ride a wolf at some point, but she's going to have the same eye make-up as Mononoke. Oh, what's that, a guy holding a lightsaber in reverse grip named Starkiller is picking up popularity? Filoni gives that to Ahsoka just before she debuts in the show. Oh, what's that, Starkiller's back in a sequel game, and has TWO reverse grip lightsabers? Better give that to Ahsoka for her post-timeskip appearance. Oh, you think Gandalf's cool? Now, Ahsoka wears his garb, staff and all, and is revived to fulfill some "greater purpose" just like Gandalf the White did (something he foreshadowed by literally drawing Gandalf and Ahsoka together and then posting the drawing on social media).

This guy's like the Ken Penders of Star Wars. His destructive creative impulses know no bounds, and are often rooted in him shamelessly lifting elements from other media not to say something new with old ideas (like George Lucas did with his films), but to say absolutely nothing meaningful and merely compensate for him being a woefully unoriginal and derivative loser hack.

Just how checked out was George to let this kinda shit slide? Or was he too busy trying to tard wrangle Dave on other shit like "No Dave, Plo needs to die because that's how it is in the pictures. Also you need to kill your darlings. Ahsoka needs to die at some point".
At the start of the show, roughly for the first two seasons, George was largely invested in the technological aspects of the show. That's why most of the interviews with him around that period are him going into detail about how he wants to push boundaries of technology used for syndicated animated television, citing everything from Akira to ThunderBirds, and saying virtually nothing about the story or characters, because that's not where his interest was.

Going forward from there, his involvement in all major SW projects, including TCW, dwindled immensely.
 
Now that's a Disney attraction I would support with utmost anticipation.


I wouldn't be the least surprised if Feloni oversaw and gave approval to this hot garbage. This is the same guy who applauded and advocated a lot of the worst story decisions in the Sequel Trilogy, including the notion that Leia should be a focal point of the story because of "subverting the patriarchy for a matriarchy instead":

You can have your "empowering women" story and not have to put men down at the same time. This has the scent of his hag wife all over it, the bullshit he's saying clearly doesn't come from him because no man could come up with something that gay and cat-hag sounding, and that bitch matches the profile of the kind of person who'd say that perfectly.
 
I think George knew how to collaborate. Which is why people like to pretend he's the only person who worked on the originals that didn't contribute anything to them. I'm not across clone wars, but my understanding is he was more of a "you definitely can't do that" guiding force.

When they were writing the Star Wars Underground show, that was very much how he was meant to be. The people were free to go and write what they wanted, but George would come in and go, "No, Darth Vader wouldn't do that." The writers would be frustrated but that's what George says.

When he sold Lucasfilm, he believed he'd still have that authority but he wasn't given it. Disney didn't care, just another IP and then you had KK who thought it was the moment she could step out from the shadows and show she could do it and... fail. Yet some how still allowed to keep failing.

Now we see the same mistakes constantly happening. The director of the Rey movie, who has done absolutely nothing to warrant being in charge of a Star Wars movie is now saying she's drowning out any input and focusing on telling the story of a Jedi as a woman. Like what the fuck? How have they not learned?
 
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When they were writing the Star Wars Underground show, that was very much how he was meant to be. The people were free to go and write what they wanted, but George would come in and go, "No, Darth Vader wouldn't do that." The writers would be frustrated but that's what George says.
I wish someone would leak the content of the two seasons that Ronald D. Moore and his team worked on.
 
I know nothing about the LucasFilms employees on wookiepedia besides the fact they're all company assets.
Fixed. Since most of the highest ups are literally on for impossible stretches of time and solely defend corpo product. They're almost certainly shared accounts by fucks from the company.

It's why they synchronized defense for this multi-million bomb.
 
I wish someone would leak the content of the two seasons that Ronald D. Moore and his team worked on.
*"Star Wars Underworld."

Wasn't it something like 50 episodes written?

It's just more in the pile of potential content Disney has that they could produce for Star Wars that they are ignoring over making shit no one cares about. I'd be curious to know what the budget for this, "too expensive to make show" would be compared to the insane budgets of the current shows.

They make cartoons like the Bad Batch that no one cares about. Why not just deliver into Underworld and the EU material and start making adult animation. Too to the WB model with how they produce lots of animation. It's not high prestige stuff, but there's an audience.

Nope, spend a fortune on shit.
 
*"Star Wars Underworld."

Wasn't it something like 50 episodes written?
Yep. They had 2 full seasons written and ready to produce/film if they had found a network.
It's just more in the pile of potential content Disney has that they could produce for Star Wars that they are ignoring over making shit no one cares about. I'd be curious to know what the budget for this, "too expensive to make show" would be compared to the insane budgets of the current shows.

They make cartoons like the Bad Batch that no one cares about. Why not just deliver into Underworld and the EU material and start making adult animation. Too to the WB model with how they produce lots of animation. It's not high prestige stuff, but there's an audience.

Nope, spend a fortune on shit.
To this day SW Detours is still in the vault. Sure it would probably be lame and vulgar but it was made with respect for the IP (unlike the Disney Wars crap).
 
*"Star Wars Underworld."

Wasn't it something like 50 episodes written?

It's just more in the pile of potential content Disney has that they could produce for Star Wars that they are ignoring over making shit no one cares about. I'd be curious to know what the budget for this, "too expensive to make show" would be compared to the insane budgets of the current shows.

They make cartoons like the Bad Batch that no one cares about. Why not just deliver into Underworld and the EU material and start making adult animation. Too to the WB model with how they produce lots of animation. It's not high prestige stuff, but there's an audience.

Nope, spend a fortune on shit.
Do you really want Current Year Disney to make it? Best case scenario is it just stays vaulted for several more years until this bullshit finally passes and someone with actual creative desire stumbles across it.
 
Ki-Adi-Mundi had a lot more involvement in Expanded Universe media, including a whole comic book series where he tracked down a former Jedi who was working with Tusken Raiders on Tatooine.

Lucasfilm took the time to explore and utilize the Jedi Council throughout the prequel stories. There is a reason why people remember Kit Fisto, Adi Gallia, Plo Koon, Ki-Adi-Mundi, Yaddle, Yarael Poof, etc. The fans who engaged with the EU read about these characters and their incredible adventures.

It is a slap in the face to long time fans by adding Mundi to the Acolyte because we know this character. He shouldn’t be here at this time. It demonstrates that the showrunners aren’t long time fans and that there isn’t someone on the team to ensure there aren’t these kinds of errors. What was probably meant as a cameo has led to an unintended retcon, highlighting the lack of consistency in Disney Star Wars.
yeah, Ki Adi is the main character of the prequel era comic for like the first half of it's run. when there was absolutely no prequel content outside of TPM and the Jedi Apprentice books for kids, he was our guy and our eyes in. for a lot of people who were around then, he's one of their all time favorite jedi (myself included).
It's just more in the pile of potential content Disney has that they could produce for Star Wars that they are ignoring over making shit no one cares about. I'd be curious to know what the budget for this, "too expensive to make show" would be compared to the insane budgets of the current shows.
they won't make Underworld because they have been cannibalizing concepts from it in their other stuff. Mandalorian exists because Underworld was going to have many Boba Fett arcs, Ashoka stole some shit from it, the Jedi duology of games and the Kenobi series took the whole losing the force in hiding thing that was supposed to be a big part of the order 66 survivors arc, Rogue One & Solo were both complete rewrites of the Death Star and Han Solo/Chewbacca arcs. They let Filoni dig through it and pull from it for TCW's final season, and his other cartoons. Underworlds scripts haven't been used, but specific concepts and ideas are being repurposed. I have no doubt Underworld did most of these things radically differently, and probably better for the most part Rogue One and Andor being the exceptions but that's why it won't get made. if they use a concept each from each episode for each movie or tv show they make that's 50 more shitty products they can make instead of 1 product that had a shot at being good or maybe even great.
 
It is a slap in the face to long time fans by adding Mundi to the Acolyte because we know this character. He shouldn’t be here at this time. It demonstrates that the showrunners aren’t long time fans and that there isn’t someone on the team to ensure there aren’t these kinds of errors. What was probably meant as a cameo has led to an unintended retcon, highlighting the lack of consistency in Disney Star Wars.
All they needed to do was just say that it was another Cerean Jedi. Maybe Ki-Adi-Mundi's grandfather, since the Jedi gave their Cereans leave to reproduce. But the fact that it's meant to be Ki-Adi-Mundi goes to show that they really don't care anymore; they're just tossing in random faces for memberberries, but doing it in such a stupid way that it offends the people it tries to appeal to.

I mean, fuck, just bring in Yoda, and nobody would question it. The fucker was 900 years old by the start of the films, he'd be 800 around the time of the High Republic and more than ready for action. Not to mention that he's more iconic and can sell more toys.

I wouldn't be surprised if Plo Koon were to show up next, and for them to retcon things so that Kel Dor can live for centuries like they're the fucking Asari from Mass Effect.
 
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Dave. He's been ruining Star Wars since 2008.
I must regretfully agree. Dave got a lot of praise for being the only kind-of competent storyteller compared to other hacks Lucasfilm employs and Clone Wars were generally an entertaining show but even back then I noticed it's not a very good Star Wars.
- Bossk and Greedo being active bounty hunters during the clone wars. That's retarded, especially for an incompetent retard like Greedo to stay in this business for so long. EU gave him a much better backstory where he was a war orphan who got mixed up with the wrong crowd.
- Mandalorians abandoning their ways and becoming some high art hipster society. Even Dave knew it's retarded and his most recent works don't mention it.
- Mortis arc was retarded. The Force is supposed to be mysterious, not something you can have a chat with. Same with that time travel dimension.
- Nitpick but in previous works Even Piell survived order 66 and died a few years later. Dave decided to ignore it and killed him during the Clone Wars.
And probably many more.
He's an asshat who can produce a good story but is as likely to steal somebody else's story, dumb it down and sell inferior version of it as his own.
 
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