Dr. Disrespect permanently banned from Twitch - Turns out he was a groomer

[narddog123]

I dont know the exact specifics of the laws and things but I think its possible for multiple things to be true here.

A lot of speculation here but its very very possible for the scenario to be like this:

Twitch: Finds out (either minor reported OR they were monitoring DM's) and the "SEXT" + plans to meet at twitch con set off Red Flags and they prematurely Ban the doc.
Doc: Consults legal + his contract and finds that he shouldn't have been banned or the "SEXTING" didn't meet a TOS breaking rule at that point in time. Sues.

*Some time period later of arguing what is what is what between all parties*

Terms of settlement end up being, doc is permabanned - but paid full amount of contract, however to whisk some of the liability off of twitch - he cannot deny the events that he was messaging a minor, with the plans of meeting, and that it "seemed" sexual. Everyone goes their separate ways ceasefire style.

This lines up with docs Statements - He doesn't HAVE to admit guilt, but hes probably contractually obliged to not deny certain things happened.

Either way it definitely seems like he was trying to do SOMETHING of that nature with a minor - and it may not have been given a chance to become a Chris Hanson moment or a Vic Mignona moment - Ive def. seen enough to believe he was very much interested in banging a kid so Certified lover boy, Certified Pedophile for sure - but Hes not technically lying when hes saying he dindonuffin illegal.

 

[Hooked on phobics]

Lawyers please respond, this should be some pretty good grounds for a defamation suit against this individual provided it's not true right?

The key element in american law IIRC is you need to prove it. This is why high profile people kinda tiptoe around unproven stuff with "allegedly" and such, as it deflects liability.

Heres something though, they got RID of whispers only like a year ago right? Did they also destroy such records? If so, how would this effect proving defamation?

I still think twitch is lying, especially after all this time, and I doubt they would of had the courtesy to sign an nda / nothing would of came til now for someone so high profile : I think they axed whispers, and think they are now immune to defamation due to lies being improvable.

 

[ddlloo]

All the posts makes sense if the person who dropped the bomb said 'flirting' instead of 'sexting' and also mentioned that they only found out because staff were just casually browsing streamers DMs.

He was flirting with a minor. They planned to meet up at Twitchcon. Nothing illegal had actually happened. Twitch knew because they had staff breaking rules and possibly laws. Lawyers for both parties got involved. He gets his money, is told to fuck off, and everyone has to stay quiet.

I'm inclined to believe this is broadly true considering the weasel wording of dr disrepect's tweets and some other twitch/industry people vagueposting about it being true.

 

[ChucklesTheJester]

You mean to tell me not ANY of you finds these new allegations sus as fuck?

Very sus on both sides. This shit came out of nowhere, and Dr D can't legally say anything to us to fully deny because of the settlement. Which doesn't help him in the court of public opinion. So this could really well just be nothing but hyped up nothing burger, or Dr D, could end up being Dr P. Either way this is a entertaining shitshow.

 

[DrearyDoomguy]

Doc: Consults legal + his contract and finds that he shouldn't have been banned or the "SEXTING" didn't meet a TOS breaking rule at that point in time. Sues.

Would he really sue if that were true? He'd have to risk all that coming out in discovery anyways. I'm still leaning towards a twitch employee being every bit as full of shit as you'd expect one to be.
That being said I'd be interested to hear a lawyer's perspective on what legal circumstances would prohibit him from confirming or denying any allegations regarding the actual reason for his ban, because his legal counsel clearly instructed him to that end.

 

[marvlouslie]

Twitch got rid of Doc because he was an "edgy boi" and didn't bow down to tranny cock. That's literally it. If all this guy has is just a "promise to meet" without anything discussed beforehand, then there's literally nothing there. You can't just INFER someone is a pedophile just simply based on text messages. Either this guy has hard proof (in which case he needs to go to the police and lawyer up), or he doesn't. Trust, but verify. You don't EVER, EVER announce this shit on Twitter, because a lot of people will not simply believe you (based on a track record of such things).

Have receipts or it's all bullshit.

 

[narddog123]

Would he really sue if that were true? He'd have to risk all that coming out in discovery anyways. I'm still leaning towards a twitch employee being every bit as full of shit as you'd expect one to be.
That being said I'd be interested to hear a lawyer's perspective on what legal circumstances would prohibit him from confirming or denying any allegations regarding the actual reason for his ban, because his legal counsel clearly instructed him to that end.

Its a lot of speculation and Gray areas. Doc could have launched lawsuit before he knew what Twitch had, or maybe doc thought the messages would hurt twitch more than they would hurt him. Twitch, or at least the team behind the choices at the time of these Messages, Look very much like shit.

 

[CptnSnshn]

Doc is guilty of being a pedophile.

I'm not convinced by any of the evidence but as a content creator on the internet he has a 99.95% chance to try and fuck a kid at some point during his career

 

[SiccDicc]

I'm inclined to believe this is broadly true considering the weasel wording of dr disrepect's tweets and some other twitch/industry people vagueposting about it being true.

You sign an NDA you're gonna be using weaselly words. Anything that can be taken as an affirmative or an outright denial of a specific action can and will land him in hot water with a company owned by Amazon. As for everyone else vagueposting, that's the aforementioned "allegedly" defense that the press uses all the time.

What I'm most disappointed in here is everyone taking Nathan Grayson at any kind of value. The very moment his mouth opened you should have known it was outright bullshit.

 

[ChucklesTheJester]

Doc is guilty of being a pedophile.

I'm not convinced by any of the evidence but as a content creator on the internet he has a 99.95% chance to try and fuck a kid at some point during his career

It's only 99.95% when they are a minecraft content creator. Around a 75-79% chance for any other kind.

 

[Crooked 16th]

Bro it's wild that he started talking about David Icke then he just happens to have all this trouble. Now years later we randomly find out he was sexting a minor. If this shit was true it would have leaked alongside his ban.

 

[FedPostalService]

The idea that in the middle of Me Too they’d cover up noncery is absurd.

Also, if it was true, where is the “I was 17 and 11 months old when I asked him if he wanted to fuck and he stopped talking to me when he found out my age I am a victim subscribe to my channel” google doc from the “victim”?

 

[I glow in the dark]

Twitch got rid of Doc because he was an "edgy boi" and didn't bow down to tranny cock.

That just makes 0 sense whatsoever because Twitch already had a contract with him, and terminating it early is basically unheard of outside of his case exclusively.

 

[Cynically Insane]

If Twitch wanted to get rid of him for being edgy, they wouldn't have paid out. The new report is the most plausible reason we have heard so far.

Immediately after his ban, the rumor was underage girls. The good Dr. led us to believe Twitch didn't want to pay an exclusivity contract now that the YT streaming service wasn't going to happen. THAT is believable. But now knowing that they paid him out, it no longer holds water. If it was really a business decision they would have accepted the profits his shows bring in instead of taking a bath.

Twitch staff was spying and saw some not quite illegal communications makes total sense to me. And his response? Sus AF. I'm not saying that this is what happened, I'm just saying that to me, it is more believable than anything anyone has presented so far.

 

[harmy.kook]

The idea that in the middle of Me Too they’d cover up noncery is absurd.

Also, if it was true, where is the “I was 17 and 11 months old when I asked him if he wanted to fuck and he stopped talking to me when he found out my age I am a victim subscribe to my channel” google doc from the “victim”?

With all the recent false allegations flung recently, along with the true ones [with receipts], are we really doing this shit again?

Have receipts, go to the police/feds, or FUCK OFF

There's a reason the ImAlexx shit is believable vs the other faggot

 

[FedPostalService]

If this was true he’d be papped off of YouTube by now too.

 

[break these cuffs]

Lawyers please respond, this should be some pretty good grounds for a defamation suit against this individual provided it's not true right?

Does the ex-twitch employee have any money to recover for damages in a lawsuit? Would a retraction actually matter if the ex-employee received a letter asking for one? Does keeping the allegations in the drama cycle cause more damage than can be recovered? Is there anything that can come out in discovery Herschel doesn't want out there? Those are the first reasons that pop into my head as to why not sue and I'm not even a lawyer. Lawsuits like these are really business decisions. The term for them when they're driven by emotion is a lolsuit.

I hope he sues, personally.

 

[MidZeRo]

If Twitch wanted to get rid of him for being edgy, they wouldn't have paid out. The new report is the most plausible reason we have heard so far.

Immediately after his ban, the rumor was underage girls. The good Dr. led us to believe Twitch didn't want to pay an exclusivity contract now that the YT streaming service wasn't going to happen. THAT is believable. But now knowing that they paid him out, it no longer holds water. If it was really a business decision they would have accepted the profits his shows bring in instead of taking a bath.

Twitch staff was spying and saw some not quite illegal communications makes total sense to me. And his response? Sus AF. I'm not saying that this is what happened, I'm just saying that to me, it is more believable than anything anyone has presented so far.

The whole reason you PAY OUT a contract when breaking it is because you don't have CAUSE to break it or haven't met the terms set in the contract that gives you the ability to terminate it, or be made whole while maintaining it. That can be for whatever reason or clauses in the contract. So say you get caught messaging children and that and there's a Good Character Clause. YOU broke the contract, and in some cases are liable to pay the other contracted party. They don't fucking pay YOU for breaking the contract because it's somehow easier.

I mean take Tucker Carlson shit for instance. They fired him and then had to PAY OUT because it's a standard early termination clause. So even while they had bullshit background reasons for bad conduct, or whatever the fuck was going on, they STILL had to PAY him. Then because he had a Non-Compete clause (which I've read are actually really hard to enforce) HE ended paying THEM to be able to do his show. Essentially the clause of the contract said if they fire him he's entitled to money, but if he goes on to compete within a certain time frame HE owes THEM money. By HIM paying THEM he bought out his contract and can do whatever the fuck he wants. Very standard stuff and tracks with what happened to DD.

I'm gonna say what I said at the start, that I refuse to believe they'd have manage to keep this under wraps for so long. Destiny said that people have known this behind the scenes since his contract got canceled. What's the impetus for any of this leftoid grifters to keep silent about it? I mean let's ALSO fucking ask when was the last time one anyone on their side of the tracks exposed ANYONE for sexual misconduct? They basically DON'T because they can't because they're all doing sus shit.

That's even ignoring Twitch Staffs track record with shady underhanded shit. I guess we forgot all the accounts from the IRL THOTs about staff asking for nudes in order to look the other way on policy violations. The moment that made waves they all nodded their heads and admitted it was just the cost of doing business, as if MeToo and Weinstein wasn't a thing.

 

[Kirtto]

I'm inclined to believe this is broadly true considering the weasel wording of dr disrepect's tweets and some other twitch/industry people vagueposting about it being true.

His statement is obviously written by a lawyer due to his obligations from Twitch settlement

 

[Cynically Insane]

But if Twitch employees were unscrupulously reading Whisper DMs of their top creators and that creator was shady AF instead of illegal? Unclean hands are everywhere. Which is exactly why this makes sense to me.