US ELECTION DAY (TRUMP VICTORY) - Every country has the government it deserves

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So the colonies are picking a new govenor general or whatever they call them to replace the kenyan fellow they had last time.

The choice this year is between a ginger tax dodging democrat oaf and a reptoid dynastic politician up to her neck in lies and corruption. As ever the contest between red and blue has been riveting, with much grabbing of pussies and hiding of emails.

We have a thread charting the campaigns but the big day deserves its own thread.

Who are you voting for? Who will win?

How many kiwis will lose the rag and get banned?

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Hey, for what its worth you retained control of the senate.
True, and governorships were picked up and House losses were less than expected. Still, I'm not optimistic about how things are going to go for the Republican Party or necessarily for the country as a whole. That aside, I am absolutely willing to give Donald Trump a chance.

My "shit" remark was mostly because no one expected this.
 
From someone who feels they've been let down that the GOP control everything now said:
I am disgusted on so many levels. And not because my candidate didn't win; that would be being a sore loser. But because of who the other candidate is.

Half of America voted for a man who is, to put charitably, a real life troll. A man with no political experience. A man who has empowered hate groups (and make no mistake, hate crimes, both by civilians and police, WILL increase under Trump). A man who has no consistent viewpoints on anything. A man who was caught on tape bragging about being able to grope women because he's a celebrity. A man who said women should be punished for having abortions. A man who swindled tons of people, either through Trump University or by refusing to pay contractors. Whose vice president is a man that supports conversion therapy. A man who belittles/sues anyone who doesn't agree with him, and whom we're now handing the nuclear codes. A man- you know what? I'm not going to list every offense he's done. We'd be here all day.

With the GOP controlling virtually every part of Congress, including probably the Supreme Court, all the progress made under Obama will be obliterated. Obamacare? Gone. LBGT rights? Sayonara. A woman's right to choose? Don't make me laugh. Religion? If it's not Christianity, you're SOL. Those NSA reforms? Yeah, unconstitutional surveillance will be back in full force to save us from those scary Muslims. Police reform? Out the window. Climate change reform? According to the GOP, climate change doesn't even exist, so they'll further screw the planet to appease their gas gods.

But this is about more than who was elected. It's about the people who voted for him. Not all of his supporters were racist, xenophobic misogynists, but by voting for him, you indirectly said you're OK with those viewpoints, as long as it screws the Democrats. Which was an incredibly irresponsible thing to do, especially since the economy is (er, WAS) improving. And while I'm aware that some of his supporters did so for valid economic reasons (i.e. small towns that got hit hardest by the 2008 crash and haven't really recovered), you voted for the wrong person to help you. Trump's economic policy is going to crash and burn this country, and by extension, the world.

Oh yeah, and by electing a man who represents nationalism and isolationism, this is basically Brexit 2.0. And we see how well that worked out for the UK.

Yeah.. Is this guy a whiner, or does he have a point? I want to believe some of his shit, but I'm sick of all the whining when nothing has happened yet, now.
 
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The funniest part about this is that Trump got pretty much the same amount of votes as Romney did. It was the blacks/Latino votes that stayed home this election that made her lose. But in SJWland it's still whiteys fault.

Me and my dad just talked about this last night - and we're both black. I agree - I'm not sure the outcome would have been hugely different, but too many black and latino people got lazy thinking Clinton had this in the bag!
 
Me and my dad just talked about this last night - and we're both black. I agree - I'm not sure the outcome would have been hugely different, but too many black and latino people got lazy thinking Clinton had this in the bag!
Guess that's what happens when every media outlet says she has 80-99 percent chance of winning.
 
My "shit" remark was mostly because no one expected this.

A ton of fucking people expected this, but no one was willing to listen to us.

Trump aside, with things as shitty as they are for most Americans you will not keep the same party in power. We gave Obama a reprieve in 2012 hoping that becoming a lame-duck president would lead to real issues getting addressed but now most people voted for Orange Hitler to address them because it was clear Democrats wouldn't.

This is why they shouldn't have rigged the primary against Bernie. He was their best option to put forward a "democrats want to change Washington too" narrative and they dumped that for Nixon in a pantsuit.
 
Maybe it's because I live in rural goddamned West Virginia, and don't get out on the internet aside from my safespaces on here and /k/, but I'm so thoroughly baffled at the mindset these people have. How can they back the most corrupt candidate to ever have a serious shot at the White House, watch as she uses every underhanded and dirty political tactic to steal the primary from a legitimately populist candidate, and be so fucking thoroughly shocked and devastated that they go full meltdown IRL and on every social media outlet they have when she loses to a candidate who's generated the most enthusiasm in decades?
 
Oh and his anti radical-Islam comments have been pretty consistent, and much of America seems to be under the impression that Muslim is a race and not a religion/political identity.

Is it just me or is the word 'sectarianism' not part of the American political lexicon at all? That's what Trump's statements would be and trying to label them as racist is reaching to say the least.
 
This morning I'm laughing so hard at my sister REEEEing that Trump won. I even gave her a lift to the early voting poll station when I was going to vote, but at the last minute my sister looked at the long line and decided it wouldn't be worth the wait, thinking that Clinton would easily clinch it
 
The funniest part about this is that Trump got pretty much the same amount of votes as Romney did. It was the blacks/Latino votes that stayed home this election that made her lose. But in SJWland it's still whiteys fault.

maybe they would have voted if $Hillary didn't call them taco bell voters.
 
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A ton of fucking people expected this, but no one was willing to listen to us.

Trump aside, with things as shitty as they are for most Americans you will not keep the same party in power. We gave Obama a reprieve in 2012 hoping that becoming a lame-duck president would lead to real issues getting addressed but now most people voted for Orange Hitler to address them because it was clear Democrats wouldn't.

This is why they shouldn't have rigged the primary against Bernie. He was their best option to put forward a "democrats want to change Washington too" narrative and they dumped that for Nixon in a pantsuit.
I totally expected this. I'll admit I had doubts at first, but those quelled over time.

If it were the Bern instead of Trump, I'd probably feel a little more sympathetic for the DNC followers (key word being little, I'd still mock them to hell and back). But it wasn't, and they were lazy as fuck, so they deserve all the mockery they get.
 
World War 3 cancelled, thermonuclear annihilation averted. Women, minorities hardest hit.

I wouldn't be so sure about A and B, honestly. Unless Trump can mature at this shit quick, or unless he can miraculously keep the war-hawks in the GOP in both House and Senate from going full on death star (due to their corporate backers wanting us to dominate everything for profit!), WW3 and nuclear fallout happening is not off the table.

I wish we as a nation (LGBTQs, POC, other minorities, women, whites) could get along better, though - we are all citizens being controlled by people who only care about themselves and we need to put a stop to that. Real bad.
Which agreed, these relations between those groups and whites - I fear they're gonna go back to 19th century levels of bad, unless we stay educated, vigilant, and on the backs of those in Congress (both places) whom are okay with turning everyone against each other, just to keep themselves fat, rich, and in power thru ill-gotten (fascist) means that deny people like myself, a right to stand up and be heard disagreeing when necessary, like how real democracy is supposed to work.

I don't know or claim to know everything/anything - this shit just pisses me off that we can't see eye-to-eye anymore, and Tumblr and Twitter and their ilk are part of the blame, besides these minorities and POC being lazy an not speaking out equally as hard to allow for debate with meaning and questions worth asking.

I totally expected this. I'll admit I had doubts at first, but those quelled over time.

If it were the Bern instead of Trump, I'd probably feel a little more sympathetic for the DNC followers (key word being little, I'd still mock them to hell and back). But it wasn't, and they were lazy as fuck, so they deserve all the mockery they get.

It's as I feared - tyranny (in their eyes) is the result of what happens when you sleep on it, instead of being educated, informed, and vigilant on issues that do matter in the long run.
 
I've said it before, I'll say it again, because it needs it.

This squadron of elite-liberal, upper-middle-class identitarian wank baskets is exactly why The Donald won. Because, in the words of Clinton I, "it's the economy, stupid." You can be woke or fierce or progressive in social issues as much as you want but when you are seen to be behind massive outsourcing of jobs to abroad, bad trade deals, and as the preferred candidate of wealthy bankers, all the virtue signalling about sexism, racism, transphobia, etc. in the world won't save you.

People are angry because the political establishment of which Hillary Clinton is a part is completely out of touch with reality. It's only really in touch with a few identity groups who it's pandered to over the past 8 years. People are angry because they see her presidency as a potential continuation of what can easily be cast as the failed policies of the Obama years. Donald Trump was the only fresh thing on the menu.

This wasn't The Donald's election to win. It was Hillary's election to lose. And she lost it by failing to take her husband's own advice - "it's the economy, stupid."

I am still aghast at how the reaction of people who despise and hate Trump's policies and attitudes is just to curl up into a ball and cry about it.
 
I wouldn't be so sure about A and B, honestly. Unless Trump can mature at this shit quick, or unless he can miraculously keep the war-hawks in the GOP in both House and Senate from going full on death star (due to their corporate backers wanting us to dominate everything for profit!), WW3 and nuclear fallout happening is not off the table.

I wish we as a nation (LGBTQs, POC, other minorities, women, whites) could get along better, though - we are all citizens being controlled by people who only care about themselves and we need to put a stop to that. Real bad.
Which agreed, these relations between those groups and whites - I fear they're gonna go back to 19th century levels of bad, unless we stay educated, vigilant, and on the backs of those in Congress (both places) whom are okay with turning everyone against each other, just to keep themselves fat, rich, and in power thru ill-gotten (fascist) means that deny people like myself, a right to stand up and be heard disagreeing when necessary, like how real democracy is supposed to work.

I don't know or claim to know everything/anything - this shit just pisses me off that we can't see eye-to-eye anymore, and Tumblr and Twitter and their ilk are part of the blame, besides these minorities and POC being lazy an not speaking out equally as hard to allow for debate with meaning and questions worth asking.

Well Putin seems happy and unlikely to try anything. Orban is happy. Duterte is happy and he wants to turn back to the US it seems.

I say that WW3 is averted big time. Businessmen usually know when to pull shit and when not to pull shit.
 
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