US "We are f***ed": Democrats despair over Biden debate performance

From CNN's Kasie Hunt
24 min ago

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Biden speaks during the CNN Presidential Debate on Thursday. John Nowak/CNN

Democrats are despairing over President Joe Biden’s debate performance Thursday night, a showing so halting some even privately raised questions about whether he should remain the party’s nominee.

Biden appeared onstage with a soft, halting voice and an open-mouthed, staring look. He struggled to finish thoughts at points, and ceded ground on issues like abortion where Democrats have an edge.

It took just minutes for Democrats to realize how bad it was becoming.

“Biden looks and sounds terrible. He’s incoherent,” one Democrat who spent time working in the Biden administration said.

“Horrific,” said another Democratic operative.

And one Democrat who’s worked on campaigns up and down the ballot said simply: “We are f***ed.”

The looming question as the debate came to a close was almost existential: Should someone else top the Democratic ticket?

“It’s hard to argue that Biden should be our nominee,” said an operative who’s worked on campaigns at all levels for over a decade.

This debate was historic for many reasons, but not least because it is taking place before each man is formally nominated at their respective conventions. The Democratic National Convention is set to convene August 19 in Chicago.

Democrats have spent much of the past year handwringing about Biden’s chances of beating Trump in an election many view as an existential one that will decide the very survival of American democracy. But Biden himself was determined to be the one to take on Trump, at one point even saying directly: “If Trump wasn’t running, I’m not sure I’d be running.”

No serious Democratic challengers stepped up to run against Biden, and at this point in the campaign he’d have to decide to step aside if Democrats were to pick another nominee. If Biden did withdraw, the Democratic nomination would be decided on the floor.

Democrats were even talking about who it might be instead: “If I was Gavin (Newsom) or Gretchen (Whitmer), I’d be making calls tonight,” one said.

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No serious Democratic challengers stepped up to run against Biden, and at this point in the campaign he’d have to decide to step aside if Democrats were to pick another nominee. If Biden did withdraw, the Democratic nomination would be decided on the floor.
Reminder that in multiple states the Democratic Party effectively canceled the primaries by effectively making it so Joe Biden is the only choice to vote for. No "serious challengers" could ever step up to run against him because the DNC did everything to stop them.
 
Reminder that in multiple states the Democratic Party effectively canceled the primaries by effectively making it so Joe Biden is the only choice to vote for. No "serious challengers" could ever step up to run against him because the DNC did everything to stop them.
That's the infuriating thing that makes their current woes about being stuck with this geriatric so gratifying. Anyone with a brain who wanted him to pull a LBJ and promise to hand the reigns over after one term got shouted down over the last year and now their candidate is a half-baked potato.
 
Am I a bad person if I kind of want to vote Joe just to see it collapse?
Yes. As much as history would record Biden's reign as the time America lost everything is funny, that gotcha isn't worth the event itself. I'm not even convinced course correcting is even possible at this stage. But at least you can go with a clean conscious that you did not willfully contribute.
That's the infuriating thing that makes their current woes about being stuck with this geriatric so gratifying. Anyone with a brain who wanted him to pull a LBJ and promise to hand the reigns over after one term got shouted down over the last year and now their candidate is a half-baked potato.
As their 2020 primary showed, they don't have anyone better. If they did, they would pushing them instead. It's also a bad reflection of Obama since Biden's actions are essentially continuations of Obama-era policies like paying Iran, antagonizing Russia, and punishing Right-wing dissent with the power of the Federal government.
 
That's the infuriating thing that makes their current woes about being stuck with this geriatric so gratifying. Anyone with a brain who wanted him to pull a LBJ and promise to hand the reigns over after one term got shouted down over the last year and now their candidate is a half-baked potato.
The DNC had their chance early on. It's not like the warning signs appeared from out of nowhere.

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If all it takes to replace him is one bad debate performance, Democrat leadership is definitely living up to the stereotype of politicians being detached from reality.
 
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