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[SwanSwanson]

Has the council made a final decision yet?

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Considering them non human would just make them more insufferable. They are fully human, and should be fully held accountable for things.

 

[Lurker Child]

Has the council made a final decision yet?

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"Are woman human?" Well it's human not huwoman so there's your answer.

90% of the time, it's because the old guys see themselves in the young guy and want to slap him onto the path to someday becoming a successful old guy who doesn't fuck things up with the same mistakes we made. Some old guys are just dicks who feel threatened by young guys.

Women hate each other, and old women just hate young women. They don't want to stop them from making mistakes. They want them to make even worse mistakes so they feel validated.

When you think about it, it's just insecurity. An older guy is often very secure in what he is and what he does. So when a young'un comes along, the elder naturally slides into being a mentor. For an older woman, particularly one unmarried and especially one childless, there is deep insecurity and this emerges in the observed hatred. To someone like that, the younger woman is a threat. The sort of older women I've known to not care about younger women are those who are married with children. Like the older man, there's no animosity towards youth, because they've fulfilled themselves truly, so what's left is only reflection and guidance.

Amber Heard losing effectively killed off #BelieveAllWomen

Those women said they wanted "to be heard". In the end, indeed, they were Heard.

I think the last fifty years have shown that the "age of consent" concept is flawed because women cannot own their decisions at any age whatsoever.

My first observation which you quoted post #15,038 made me uncomfortable since I felt it erroneous. I tried deleting it to make a formal amendment but that was a mistake. Here is what I would say now in correction: The last 50 years has not shown that the "age of consent" is flawed. The concept is correct. In essence, it is an age past which society expects any man or woman to know better, to know the consequences and obligations of sex. More than a few women in my life fail to learn these, and while it is their womanly nature, the real issue is the lack of discipline in culture and in parenting. Love is a beautiful thing, but for it to mean anything it needs to be disciplined. What the last 50 years have shown is that without that discipline, with the prevailing libertine fatherless culture, all that lovemaking doesn't mean anything because it doesn't build anything.

Anyway, to correct my mistake, I'll paraphrase what my post had otherwise previously said:

Spoiler: paraphrasing of what I said

The discussion [about the age of consent] is superfluous. It should stay right where it is.
Honestly debating about the age of consent is a psyop to distract from lowering the drinking age.

[originally to Chuck McGill post #15034] In America there is deep cultural dissonance between libertine sexuality and puritan morality. This contradiction is one of the more aggravating details of American society. Those Jewish movies do have a point. The first love is always the strongest and the failure of that first love teaches the heart of a boy important lessons that tempers it into the heart of a man. A man's first loves function for his heart in the same way that his first words functioned for his speech. Young love is potent but superficial. It is not, nor is it meant to be, serious; the sort of sincere love that gives marriage and children, normally. The consequences of young love are more important than young love itself.

 

[Ultrapenguin]

When you think about it, it's just insecurity. An older guy is often very secure in what he is and what he does. So when a young'un comes along, the elder naturally slides into being a mentor. For an older woman, particularly one unmarried and especially one childless, there is deep insecurity and this emerges in the observed hatred.

Like I've said before in this thread with feminists who whine about how getting older is so much easier for men and oh nobody cares about women when they start aging...yes, because normally what happens when a woman ages is that she proceeds to the role of a mother and/or community figure. I'm pretty sure there are women who have like 3 kids and a husband who love them and a social environment they're involved in who don't feel obsolete at all.

Maybe consider developing beyond your glory days when you were in your early 20s in college and it'll be a lot easier.

I feel like we're falling into a trap discussing this shit

I saw it in the Dr. Disrespect thread too. I have no idea how people are so into the topic.

I think these individuals need to take a step back and consider the following:
1) They are all very neurotic
2) For guys, some of them are allowing themselves to indulge in unhealthy cope about their insecurities in life by really leaning into the "It's normal for older guys to court younger women" thing. Honestly, would a 35 year old with a 20 year old actually be a sane and fulfilling relationship? Or is it just a way to live in denial of one's age and station in life?

Then again I guess if a person is the sort who believes silly things (like perhaps that femcels don't exist) then they also wouldn't believe grown adult women are capable of empathizing and connecting with men who mean well and make an effort, but who might struggle or aren't the model of mainstream success and fluency.

Either way it's strange how much people like discussing it. Even if you're going to say "screw standards" and pork women who are clearly too young for you then just do it, why the desperate need for it to be validated by a bunch of strangers online? The people on the internet aren't in bed with you, this is a two person operation.

 

[bile demon]

How science has fallen...

 

[JoseRaulChupacabra]

Either way it's strange how much people like discussing it. Even if you're going to say "screw standards" and pork women who are clearly too young for you then just do it, why the desperate need for it to be validated by a bunch of strangers online? The people on the internet aren't in bed with you, this is a two person operation.

It's not even that I approve of people (including men) getting married under 20 or some shit like that. I just tried to add to the point that people married much younger back in the day. The example of Josephine getting married was just something I threw in there as an example.

It does get a bit more fucked up, at least according to Wikipedia, so we know it's 100% true. Josephine's 1st husband, Alexandre de Beauharnais was ~2 years older than Josephine and initially rejected her because he wanted a bigger age gap. Just a reminder, they were teenagers when this was going on.

So he was offered Josephine's younger sister, Catherine-Desiree, who increased the age gap by 1, but before things could get underway, she died. So he was offered Josephine's even younger sister, Marie-Francoise, who was 11. The mom and grandma protested this, so Alexandre was forced to settle for Josephine. Many years later, he was executed by guillotine when the French were unleashing their inner niggers.

 

[Bungdit Din]

Like I've said before in this thread with feminists who whine about how getting older is so much easier for men and oh nobody cares about women when they start aging...yes, because normally what happens when a woman ages is that she proceeds to the role of a mother and/or community figure. I'm pretty sure there are women who have like 3 kids and a husband who love them and a social environment they're involved in who don't feel obsolete at all.

Maybe consider developing beyond your glory days when you were in your early 20s in college and it'll be a lot easier.

A sensible, realistic take. And then you go and post cringe...

I saw it in the Dr. Disrespect thread too. I have no idea how people are so into the topic.

I think these individuals need to take a step back and consider the following:
1) They are all very neurotic
2) For guys, some of them are allowing themselves to indulge in unhealthy cope about their insecurities in life by really leaning into the "It's normal for older guys to court younger women" thing. Honestly, would a 35 year old with a 20 year old actually be a sane and fulfilling relationship? Or is it just a way to live in denial of one's age and station in life?

Then again I guess if a person is the sort who believes silly things (like perhaps that femcels don't exist) then they also wouldn't believe grown adult women are capable of empathizing and connecting with men who mean well and make an effort, but who might struggle or aren't the model of mainstream success and fluency.

Either way it's strange how much people like discussing it. Even if you're going to say "screw standards" and pork women who are clearly too young for you then just do it, why the desperate need for it to be validated by a bunch of strangers online? The people on the internet aren't in bed with you, this is a two person operation.

Spoken exactly like the feminists disparaged in the preceding quote. Are you sure you're not female?

 

[The Ugly One]

The sort of older women I've known to not care about younger women are those who are married with children.

True. Grandmothers tend not to hate younger mothers.

In essence, it is an age past which society expects any man or woman to know better, to know the consequences and obligations of sex.

I think the flaw is expecting women to ever learn what consequences are. Consequences and accountability are for men. Women's rejection of accountability isn't just a cultural artifact; I believe it's a neurological difference between men and women. Think about it, women are physically incapable of obtaining food and shelter for themselves. They are dependents throughout their lives. I think this affects how evolution has prioritized various parts of female neural development, because I've observed in decades of pointless internet argument that women are largely mentally incapable of understanding what independence and accountability even are. Examples:

• I had a long argument with one of the forum's pick-mes about how women have a fundamentally different relationship with violence than men because they're physically incapable of inflicting it, and therefore always have men do it on their behalf. She brought up Elizabeth I's wars as a counterexample, and I pointed out that, unlike the kings before her or the noblemen of her day, Elizabeth didn't wear armor, ride with an army, or train with a sword (the English nobility died at a higher rate than commoners in WW1, by the way). The wars were waged on her behalf by men. The fascinating thing here was the woman could not grasp what I meant. She literally could not understand the difference between swinging a sword and sitting in a palace while someone else swings a sword for you. There was this weird mental block she couldn't pass through.
  
  
• Years ago, I had an argument with a woman in a libertarian group. I pointed out that in a free market, we wouldn't have equality in the workplace, since menstruation, pregnancy, nursing, risk-aversion, physical weakness, etc, make women inferior employees, and that all strides toward equality in outcome necessarily have involved forcing men to subsidize the weakness of women. I was not surprised that she insisted that this supposed "free market" would somehow still need CRA-style "disparate impact" laws, but what did surprise me was her total inability to admit this amounted to men subsidizing women. She could not comprehend that allowing women to take vacation one week out of every four, and a year long break with every child, as well as calling on a man any time there's something she can lift, pull, or push means her economic output is necessarily less than a man's.
  
  
• Women in their twenties are almost completely incapable of understanding that their youth and beauty is why the world smiles at them, that this will fade, and that when this fades, the free ride stops. Time and time again, younger women insist that the reason men like them is their intelligence, career ambitions, and personality, and that therefore they have all the time in the world, as they'll only be more accomplished and interesting at 33 than they were at 23. I have seen, personally, that you cannot explain reality to women. It's like their brains are hardwired to not understand the two bumps on their chests and their pretty faces are why men talk to them. They'll get angry and emotional, or haughty and sneering, but what they cannot do is understand.

Those are just a few examples. But the reality is that in every society, including ours, women are dependent on men for their material, day-to-day existence. We grow the food, pull the resources out of the ground, and protect them from danger. What makes our society weird is that we have a variety of laws, social conventions, and cultural taboos to maintain the illusion that they are wholly independent of us. Most other societies recognize this dependence in both formal and informal social conventions.

Basically, I don't think the "age of consent" is a workable idea because women are fundamentally incapable of handling autonomy. To the extent they are even dimly capable of understanding the consequences of sex, they react by sterilizing themselves and depriving our society of its own survival. Raising or lowering the age won't help anything.

 

[DumbDude43]

• Years ago, I had an argument with a woman in a libertarian group. I pointed out that in a free market, we wouldn't have equality in the workplace, since menstruation, pregnancy, nursing, risk-aversion, physical weakness, etc, make women inferior employees, and that all strides toward equality in outcome necessarily have involved forcing men to subsidize the weakness of women.

i'm still uncertain whether they genuinely don't get it, or whether they know it but refuse to admit it to protect their ego and pride. it is hard to tell at times.



take this old classic for example.. how many people heard about the genius girlboss coder shattering glass ceilings, and how many people know that the babyfaced beta with the incel glasses did 90% of the actual work? guess whose name wikipedia remembers?

 

[Frosty Fetus]

The Woman is immunized against all dangers: one may call her a scoundrel, parasite, swindler, profiteer, it all runs off her like mascara off a crying face. But tell her to be accountable and you will be astonished at how he recoils, how injured he is, how he suddenly shrinks back: “I need to be responsible!?”

 

[David Kirk Ginder]

i'm still uncertain whether they genuinely don't get it, or whether they know it but refuse to admit it to protect their ego and pride. it is hard to tell at times.

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take this old classic for example.. how many people heard about the genius girlboss coder shattering glass ceilings, and how many people know that the babyfaced beta with the incel glasses did 90% of the actual work? guess whose name wikipedia remembers?

Sheeeit, I haven't remembered her since the day that happened. Such a cynical situation. Incel scientist nerds make a breaththrough in scientific discovery. Marketing uses a semi-attractive female Jew as the public face of the event, even though it was mainly the nerds who did the heavy lifting.

And I remember that Andrew Chael guy white-knighted for her when Reddit dug around and found out that she didn't do much at all.

 

[The Ugly One]

the babyfaced beta with the incel glasses

He turned out to be a fag, actually.

 

[The Hardest R]

i'm still uncertain whether they genuinely don't get it, or whether they know it but refuse to admit it to protect their ego and pride. it is hard to tell at times.

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take this old classic for example.. how many people heard about the genius girlboss coder shattering glass ceilings, and how many people know that the babyfaced beta with the incel glasses did 90% of the actual work? guess whose name wikipedia remembers?

The answer lies within her Wikipedia article:

Bouman received significant media attention after a photo, showing her reaction to the detection of the black hole shadow in the EHT images, went viral.[2][29][30][31] Some people in the media and on the Internet misleadingly implied that Bouman was a "lone genius" behind the image.[32][33] However, Bouman herself repeatedly noted that the result came from the work of a large collaboration, showing the importance of teamwork in science.[2][33][34] Bouman also became the target of online harassment, to the extent that her colleague Andrew Chael made a statement on Twitter criticizing "awful and sexist attacks on my colleague and friend", including attempts to undermine her contributions by crediting him solely with work accomplished by the team.[25][27][35][36]

The lügenpresse lied about this girlboss and when people started finding out the truth, the guy who did the actual work simped for her. However the Wikipedia article still had to ultimately deny her credit for being the sole contributor, just a vague leadership role that they can’t commit to.

 

[DumbDude43]

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this one i initially felt quite sad for, but i quickly got the impression that she must be massively exaggerating her issues, cause i have never seen anyone 'age rapidly' like she claims at 25-28, except alcoholics and junkies.
also clicked on the profile and the second entry in her post history is her talking about how she lost her virginity to "a one night stand with a horrible person" so my sympathy for her is rather limited now. but it is kind of funny that even in places that are specifically dedicated to the loneliest of lonely women, the lowest of the low, even here the presence of chad is still felt.

 

[JoseRaulChupacabra]

Women in their twenties are almost completely incapable of understanding that their youth and beauty is why the world smiles at them, that this will fade, and that when this fades, the free ride stops. Time and time again, younger women insist that the reason men like them is their intelligence, career ambitions, and personality, and that therefore they have all the time in the world, as they'll only be more accomplished and interesting at 33 than they were at 23. I have seen, personally, that you cannot explain reality to women. It's like their brains are hardwired to not understand the two bumps on their chests and their pretty faces are why men talk to them. They'll get angry and emotional, or haughty and sneering, but what they cannot do is understand.

Lol, this reminds me of an old money brit bong whose family owned a factory that got yanked from them in a hostile takeover. He was heartbroken when the workers stopped being nice and polite to him when they found out he no longer owned the factory. The whole time, he thought the workers were nice and polite to him because they liked him as person, not because he was their boss. Some people are just delightfully out of touch.

That said, I do think to a certain extent, they know why they're getting attention, they just don't want to admit it to anyone, not even themselves. Eventually, the lie just takes over.

have never seen anyone 'age rapidly' like she claims at 25-28, except alcoholics and junkies.

Could be omitting that part. OR she spotted a few blemishes on her zoom in mirror and it's driving her crazy.

 

[Frosty Fetus]

Women chose the bear

 

[Biggie Smalls' Taint]

but it is kind of funny that even in places that are specifically dedicated to the loneliest of lonely women, the lowest of the low, even here the presence of chad is still felt.

Some theologists say that hell is the absence of God. To women, inceldom is the absence of Chad.

How did she lose her looks so hard from age 25 to 26? From her description of herself it's either
A: She was never hot and had a moment of self-reflection (unlikely) or
B: She got Ozempic'd hard.
It's very unlikely that anyone hits the wall at 26, and it's impossible for someone to hit it so hard that they notice it. There are 50 year old hags that think they still got it.

 

[MrJokerRager]

 

[Ser Prize]

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this one i initially felt quite sad for, but i quickly got the impression that she must be massively exaggerating her issues, cause i have never seen anyone 'age rapidly' like she claims at 25-28, except alcoholics and junkies.
also clicked on the profile and the second entry in her post history is her talking about how she lost her virginity to "a one night stand with a horrible person" so my sympathy for her is rather limited now. but it is kind of funny that even in places that are specifically dedicated to the loneliest of lonely women, the lowest of the low, even here the presence of chad is still felt.

"Focused on her career" sounds like she rode the cock carousel instead of dating anyone long term, so my sympathy is next to zero.

 

[DumbDude43]

How did she lose her looks so hard from age 25 to 26? From her description of herself it's either
A: She was never hot and had a moment of self-reflection (unlikely) or
B: She got Ozempic'd hard.
It's very unlikely that anyone hits the wall at 26, and it's impossible for someone to hit it so hard that they notice it. There are 50 year old hags that think they still got it.

idk the only situation where i can imagine such rapid deterioration is heavy substance abuse or extreme sickness (cancer with chemo)
and she mentions no such thing, just 'aging' which just sounds weird. people don't just go from normal to super ugly in a year.

my personal speculation is that she had a bit of a mental breakdown. she mentioned putting a lot of time and effort into building up her career, probably built up quite an ego and an inflated sense of self-importance along with it.
getting treated like a disposable cumdump fucktoy by some pickup dude after years of telling yourself what a badass boss bitch you are probably hurts a lot, maybe this reality check was so humiliating to her that it caused her to spiral into mental illness and self-hate, made her overly self-conscious and self-critical about her appearance.

 

[The Ugly One]

some more 'cel content

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this one i initially felt quite sad for, but i quickly got the impression that she must be massively exaggerating her issues, cause i have never seen anyone 'age rapidly' like she claims at 25-28, except alcoholics and junkies.
also clicked on the profile and the second entry in her post history is her talking about how she lost her virginity to "a one night stand with a horrible person" so my sympathy for her is rather limited now. but it is kind of funny that even in places that are specifically dedicated to the loneliest of lonely women, the lowest of the low, even here the presence of chad is still felt.

Women can be extremely obsessive over their looks, insisting that they look like "ugly old hags" once their first wrinkle or gray hair shows up. Odds are that the difference between this woman at 28 and 23 is pretty minor, but there a few features she's so fixated on that it's driving her insane.

She's a good example of what I was talking about upthread. A free-for-all of extramarital sex is not something women can participate in without breaking themselves. "Consent" is just a stupid rubric. She "consented" to a 1-nighter with Chad and ruined her life. In a sane society, her parents would have made sure she was married off by 22 instead of her just aimlessly careening through the world of "consent."

Basically what I am saying is that women are somewhere between children and men in their ability to make decisions for themselves. Pretty much everyone, including the most hardcore feminists, agrees that women aren't really responsible for their own actions anyway; I merely advocate changing law and custom to reflect that.