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Should we be afraid of ultra-processed foods? It’s complicated​

Ultra-processed foods (also called "UPFs"), the newfound villain within the food industry, have spurred much discourse amongst food experts, scientists, and consumers alike. In recent years, concerns regarding the potential health risks of such foods reached a fever pitch — so much so, that one nutritional scientist is now calling for tobacco-style warnings to be placed on UPFs.

Carlos Monteiro, the Brazilian epidemiologist who coined the term ultra-processed food, will discuss the dangers of UPFs in both children and adults at the International Congress on Obesity this week. Ahead of the conference in São Paulo, Monteiro said in a statement to The Guardian that UPFs are “increasing their share in and domination of global diets, despite the risk they represent to health in terms of increasing the risk of multiple chronic diseases.”

“UPFs are displacing healthier, less processed foods all over the world, and also causing a deterioration in diet quality due to their several harmful attributes,” he continued. “Together, these foods are driving the pandemic of obesity and other diet-related chronic diseases, such as diabetes.”

In Latin America, several countries have already taken the initiative to print nutritional warning labels on the fronts of food packages. In 2010, Mexico became the first country in the region to move the “daily guidance amounts” label to the fronts of packages, The Guardian reported in May. Ecuador followed suit four years later with its “traffic light” label, which associates different colors (red, yellow, and green) to the levels of various nutrients in a specific food. And in 2016, Chile implemented a black, octagonal warning label that encouraged other countries including Peru, Uruguay, Mexico, Argentina, and Colombia to mandate similar labels. Many of these countries are working to implement labels specific to UPFs, although existing warning labels already encompass the majority of available UPFs.

“UPFs are displacing healthier, less processed foods all over the world, and also causing a deterioration in diet quality due to their several harmful attributes,” he continued. “Together, these foods are driving the pandemic of obesity and other diet-related chronic diseases, such as diabetes.”

In Latin America, several countries have already taken the initiative to print nutritional warning labels on the fronts of food packages. In 2010, Mexico became the first country in the region to move the “daily guidance amounts” label to the fronts of packages, The Guardian reported in May. Ecuador followed suit four years later with its “traffic light” label, which associates different colors (red, yellow, and green) to the levels of various nutrients in a specific food. And in 2016, Chile implemented a black, octagonal warning label that encouraged other countries including Peru, Uruguay, Mexico, Argentina, and Colombia to mandate similar labels. Many of these countries are working to implement labels specific to UPFs, although existing warning labels already encompass the majority of available UPFs.

“Public health campaigns are needed like those against tobacco to curb the dangers of UPFs,” he told the Guardian in an email. “Such campaigns would include the health dangers of consumption of UPFs.

“Advertisements for UPFs should also be banned or heavily restricted, and front-of-pack warnings should be introduced similar to those used for cigarette packs,” Monteiro continued, specifying that UPFs should be banned from schools and health facilities and taxed.

UPFs remain a divisive topic today and research into the foods is still ongoing. Simply put, UPFs are commercially manufactured food products that have undergone significant processing. Because UPFs don’t resemble their raw ingredients, they are typically high in refined sugars, salt, artificial colors, emulsifiers and sweeteners. Common examples of UPFs include breakfast cereals, packaged snacks, soft drinks, candy and flavored yogurts.

Although many studies have found that UPFs contribute to a greater risk of health problems — like obesity, hypertension, heart disease, and Type 2 diabetes — one recent study found that not all UPFs are detrimental. The study used 30 years of data from two large U.S. cohorts to examine the associations of ultra-processed food with mortality. When analyzing UPFs by sub-category, researchers found that mass-produced wholegrain products, like wholegrain breads and wholegrain breakfast cereals available at most local supermarkets, weren’t linked to poor health. The study also found that in individuals who routinely ate a healthy diet (one that is rich in fresh produce and whole grains, along with healthy fats, and low in unhealthy fats, sugar and salt), there was no clear relationship between the amount of UPFs they ate and a risk of early mortality.

The study concluded that while most UPFs should be eaten in moderation, not all UPFs are inherently harmful and should be restricted — or vilified.

Monteiro didn’t specify which UPFs should be branded with tobacco-style warnings on their packaging. In his email to The Guardian, Monteiro said he plans to draw comparisons between UPFs and tobacco companies while speaking at the conference. That association, however, was described as “very simplistic” by registered dietitian and nutritionist Dr. Hilda Mulrooney.

“It is not as easy to reformulate some classes of foods to reduce them and they are not the same as tobacco because we need food — just not in the quantities most of us are consuming,” she told The Guardian.
 
I always hated the term "processed food."
Put a fresh cut of beef in a meat grinder and it goes from "unprocessed" to "processed" with no change to its composition. It's not a meaningful distinction.

What process has the food undergone? Does this process change its nutritional value or add to toxicity? If there is a difference, is it sufficient to warrant concern?
More importantly: what is the difference between "processed" and "ultra processed?" It literally just sounds like fear mongering by organic fags trying to sell you on a sticker.
 
You shouldn't. We humans have always found ways to make food last longer, this is just a new way. Alas, try to eat as fresh as possible most of the time. Of course, this implies people need to learn how to cook.

In Latin America, several countries have already taken the initiative to print nutritional warning labels on the fronts of food packages. In 2010, Mexico became the first country in the region to move the “daily guidance amounts” label to the fronts of packages, The Guardian reported in May. Ecuador followed suit four years later with its “traffic light” label, which associates different colors (red, yellow, and green) to the levels of various nutrients in a specific food. And in 2016, Chile implemented a black, octagonal warning label that encouraged other countries including Peru, Uruguay, Mexico, Argentina, and Colombia to mandate similar labels. Many of these countries are working to implement labels specific to UPFs, although existing warning labels already encompass the majority of available UPFs.
Which isn't a popular measure and helps no one really. We had labels for sugar, fat, and salt and we still have a high number of obesity.
 
I always hated the term "processed food."
Put a fresh cut of beef in a meat grinder and it goes from "unprocessed" to "processed" with no change to its composition. It's not a meaningful distinction.

What process has the food undergone? Does this process change its nutritional value or add to toxicity? If there is a difference, is it sufficient to warrant concern?
More importantly: what is the difference between "processed" and "ultra processed?" It literally just sounds like fear mongering by organic fags trying to sell you on a sticker.
All cooked food, even home cooked, is processed because cooking itself is a way to process food. Eating all foods entirely unprocessed is how you end up getting diseases. It’s why I’ll never understand raw foodists.
 
Processed and ultra-processed foods are not the same thing. Salting and then cooking meat is a form of processing. Ultra-processed foods go a lot further than that and are closer to chemistry than cooking. Not eating "ultra-processed" food becomes easier when, considering that the foods are broken down into their constituent molecules and reassembled, they could also be described as "pre-digested."
 
the processing is not what you should pay attention to. the ingredients are what matters.

I've always being weirded out as to how this got accepted as breakfsat in the US, it is basically all sugar and a handful of carbs. Also, isn't making a ham sandwich easier, cheaper and healthier?
the sugary sweetness makes it highly appealing to children, and preparing the stuff is super fast (put in a bowl and add milk)
 
I've always being weirded out as to how this got accepted as breakfsat in the US, it is basically all sugar and a handful of carbs. Also, isn't making a ham sandwich easier, cheaper and healthier?
It basically stems from some protestant groups who thought all disease stems from eating anything that's not toast and water. That became a staple food until people realized how retarded it was so they swapped the water with milk, made it tasty, and then fortified it with a bunch of vitamins and minerals that you're probably not going to absorb.
 
It basically stems from some protestant groups who thought all disease stems from eating anything that's not toast and water. That became a staple food until people realized how retarded it was so they swapped the water with milk, made it tasty, and then fortified it with a bunch of vitamins and minerals that you're probably not going to absorb.
Wouldn't it be easier to just eat plain, unleavened bread? This way you can also larp as a Jew during Exodus while you are at it.

the sugary sweetness makes it highly appealing to children, and preparing the stuff is super fast (put in a bowl and add milk)
Yes, but bread, ham, and certain types of cheese already come pre-sliced, it can't ve that difficult to just grab those three things and stack them
 
Wouldn't it be easier to just eat plain, unleavened bread? This way you can also larp as a Jew during Exodus while you are at it
Idk, man. Protestants can be weird sometimes. One thing they used to do is toast the bread, break it into crumbs, press those crumbs back together, then bake it again.
That's where the Graham cracker comes from.
 
I volunteer to test the pasta dishes and curry. I'll need to test some lager with it, too.

And the pizzas and ice cream, can't be too careful. Five year study should do it, I'm assuming you've got the grant money to cover it.
Ask for a lifetime supply of insulin as well, just in case
 
I’m convinced that emulsifiers are one of the many reasons gut cancers are rising. They fuck your gut biota up.

There’s processing and processing though. Fermenting kimchi is processing but fermented foods can be very healthy. Some foods must be processed to be safe or edible. Sausages you made yourself from minced organic local meat and herbs from the garden are processed. That’s not much of an issue. What’s a problem is the shit that’s added - emulsifiers are bad, many synthetic colours are awful. Invert sugar syrup, nitrates, nitrites in excess aren’t good.
Just eat mainly food that is recognisable and mainly food you’ve made yourself. Check the numbers in your fruit and veg stickers to make sure it’s not soaked in shit. Is it mcp 1 they douse apples with? Don’t eat that. Don’t eat artificial sweeteners. Don’t eat stuff that has baffling chemical names on the label.

It’s so weird that stuff is labelled as bad when it’s fine in small amounts, like a cake you made yourself, while Diet Coke is touted as the healthy option.
We all had homemade bread and jam at the weekend - delicious. Not an every meal food for sure, too carb heavy, but darn good.
If your diet is mainly veg, meat, dairy that you cook from scratch with smaller amounts of grains you’ll be fine.
 
It's not a meaningful distinction.
That's the point. Same thing with "emissions", it can mean water and carbon dioxide which almost every energy conversion reaction emits, but it can also mean some very specific toxic chemical as well. It's this vague word the love to use since you can apply it to anything and also hide things.
  • Everything has emissions = everything can be taxed (probably an extortion/scam)
  • Everything is processed = It can be good for you (probably bad for you)
Notice that there is a lot of research to back up that carbon dioxide is bad, but anything new lacks research, so these Science™ larpers/experts can always look at a piece of paper and refer to old stuff as being "reliably bad", but anything new as "exiting" and there is "no data that suggests it's bad". With this wordplay, the never "lied", so calling them liars would be "slander" since it's not technically true.

I hate these midwit scientists and shill science journalist like you wouldn't even believe it. They do this wordplay every single time, destroying the meaning of common sense in the process.
 
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