Trainwreck The Empathic Nutritionist / Empathic Mamahood / Robyn Grogitsky-Ramirez / Luna Elva Ramirez / Glenn Ramirez / Atlas Glenn Standford Ramirez - Eyefucking Sociopath Selfie Addict Mother and Closeted Gymrat Pothead Father who use Instagram to Parade their Homemade Homunculus Tard Baby Created by their Refusal to Follow any Medical Oversights

Will Robyn actually go back to see the neurosurgeon in California?

  • Yes

    Votes: 26 12.2%
  • No

    Votes: 107 50.2%
  • Luna will die before the planned trip date

    Votes: 80 37.6%

  • Total voters
    213
  • Poll closed .
I would feel the same but we've seen her admit to doing things that hurt Luna. Coconut oil in the eyes is one of them. They are discussing a family vacation soon.
I think you just really don't understand how stupid Robyn is. She cannot admit failure, because she would have to admit she permanently and severely maimed her daughter. I think I'd choose the rope.

Love makes you do crazy things, I guess.
 
I think you just really don't understand how stupid Robyn is. She cannot admit failure, because she would have to admit she permanently and severely maimed her daughter. I think I'd choose the rope.

Love makes you do crazy things, I guess.

a narcissist will rather have her child die
than to admit fault or flaw to anything


because in their mind, they are god's gift to the world and anything they did is perfect.

"Coconut oil hurts Luna's eyes? no, its actually working and helping her but then again its probably the company's product being faulty"
 
Robyn IG:
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Glenn IG:
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You know, I was thinking of how shit and how terrible of a parent I felt like. Like a failure of a parent. Then I look at personal sacrifices I made for my child, decisions I hate and will hate until the day I die but know they were the right one for my child no matter how much I look for an alternative incase the circumstances happen again. Then I found this woman. I read most the highlights. All I can say is:

Damn I'm super dad and these people need to give the normal child to someone who will take real care of them and not abuse them in the name of their ego, permit Luna to be freed from her tragic existence, and then unsubscribe themselves from life via a flip into a wood chipper. And every person enabling them on social media should congaline off the edge behind them.

KF: The only place that can make you feel better about yourself while also killing your faith in humanity.

I hope this family vacation ends in an accident with 100% lethality for this family. Mercy and punishment in one swift moment.
 
Luna looks SO PALE compared to Little Tree. Maybe he's just more Mexican? He doesn't look that brown compared to Robyn.
Also in that photo from their holiday 2 years ago, Luna somehow looks more alert.

Also I know it's just her filming a video, but it irks me when people don't look at their babies when they talk to them. That's one way that they learn speech! A baby's favourite sound is their mother's voice, and they want to look at their mum talking to them.
 
Re: neuroinflammation nonsense slide

Do you think Robyn thinks she's gonna shrink Luna's head with beet extract?
I doubt it, she's well aware of the origin of Buna's problems and, stunningly thick though she is, I doubt she truly believes the neuroinflammation woo from her last few posts. My theory is that it's more for the 'gram — a lot of her followers don't really know much or anything about the snatch-strangling birth and Rob is very careful not to give too many details about what happened publicly.

Thus, it fits her woo aesthetic and keeps her adoring crunchy mum fans happy to see her using shit like that to try and 'cure' Luna or at least alleviate her presumed/projected discomfort, even if Robyn herself is well aware it's not actually going to do fuck-all for a headful of cystic matter... Just another way she uses the spud as a living doll to show off her crunchy lifestyle and get asspats, sadly.
 
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I doubt it, she's well aware of the origin of Buna's problems and, stunningly thick though she is, I doubt she truly believes the neuroinflammation woo from her last few posts. My theory is that it's more for the 'gram — a lot of her followers don't really know much or anything about the snatch-strangling birth and Rob is very careful not to give too many details about what happened publically.

Thus, it fits her woo aesthetic and keeps her adoring crunchy mum fans happy to see her using shit like that to try and 'cure' Luna or at least alleviate her presumed/projected discomfort, even if Robyn herself is well aware it's not actually going to do fuck-all for a headful of cystic matter... Just another way she uses the spud as a living doll to show off her crunchy lifestyle and get asspats, sadly.

She also just wants to sell the stuff, because MLM marketing is her "career." Therefore, it behooves her to sing the praises for this snake oil as sincerely as possible.

Luna looks so much better (relatively speaking) in that older photo. And it's maddening to see the speech therapist work with Luna's speaking ability, when it's very evidently Atlas who needs help in that department. We've long since known that these resources are being wasted on Luna, but it's doubly frustrating when the child who actually needs the help is literally right there.
 
Re: neuroinflammation nonsense slide

Do you think Robyn thinks she's gonna shrink Luna's head with beet extract?
It does seem on brand for Robyn to somehow equate "ever-growing cysts forming within her child's brain that require constant drainage to keep her vital organs going" with just "inflammation" So yes
 
You know, the longer I read this thread, the more I am convinced Robyn is just a delusional idiot who can't face the truth, but probably isn't that bad. She made a mistake that will last a lifetime. It's weird to watch and I think she's a real freak, but I don't hate her.
I kind of agree with you. I also get the sense that she harbors a lot of self-hatred and contempt for the world. She literally cannot show her face without filtering the crap out of it. To me, that shows insecurity but also inauthenticity. That’s probably why she can’t admit she ruined her child. That would crush her ego, which I think this whole thing is about.
 
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I haven't caught up much since Atlas was a babies but saw that there is an additional baby added to the mix. Few thoughts catching up

1 - Would friggen love to read some of Luna's medical notes. If shes getting palliative care theres gotta be a real doctor on the case. Gotta wonder, genuinely, why she is still alive. Gotta wonder if some doctor is out there waiting for her to pass so they can do a case study on her. I wonder if it is really nothing more than intact brain stem functioning. In that case I bet she could live as a semi-veg for a real long time...

2 - Does Atlas have a Pupert Adams thing going for him or is it just me?

3 - Does Atlas really not talk at all? I'm in the field and would love to hear how poor it is but I have gone back a couple months and there is no evidence of any speech. My two cents is that behaviorally he doesn't look tremendously autistic (like there is a clip of him moving stuff out of the way as Luna "uses" her "walker" which strikes me as pretty socially connected)... but 3yos should be fully talking in basic conversations.

4 - If he does have a speech delay why isn't she trying to tell supplements she is using to treat the delay?
 
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My best guess, she either hasn't noticed or is on some "he'll speak when he's ready" bullshit.
I’ve been worried about his speech for a while but I do see the cogs working. I think he is actually a very smart kid.

It is weird she hasn’t posted any conversations she’s had with him though.

Still fat and wouldnt sex.
 
I’ve been worried about his speech for a while but I do see the cogs working. I think he is actually a very smart kid.

It is weird she hasn’t posted any conversations she’s had with him though.

Still fat and wouldnt sex.
I agree. Looking at clips I see problem solving, independence, wanting to copy stuff he sees, exploring the environment. He seems interested in Luna (and maybe I am projecting here) but almost seems to understand that there is something "wrong" with her.

But in all non-boomerang clips... he's unusually silent/quiet for a 3 year old boy. A few noises here and there, but most 3yo boys are loud.
 
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