Sweet Baby Inc. and the Steam Curator Group Conspiracy - The company that is responsible for the diarrheic video game writing.

[Celebrate Nite]

So even back then, democrats/liberals made even worse moral guardians than the religious right.

I mean anyone that knows about the Mortal Kombat and Night Trap "controversy" in the 90's already knew this

 

[marvlouslie]

Al Gore lead the music censorship iirc.

And now Dee Snider is sucking off the regime. How the turn tables. LOL.

 

[AnOminous]

Funny enough through one of the most balanced video game review sites I've seen, https://www.christcenteredgamer.com/, does a great job separating out the "Game" and "Morality" of what they are reviewing.

Ironically it's less preachy than any SJW.

 

[SiccDicc]

To bring comics into this, practically anyone can read and enjoy Transmetropolitan and enjoy it even though it’s full of lefty messaging.

I probably couldn't, I tried reading a book about a sniper and it started out pretty strong and then turned into conservative masturbatory wet dream stuff near the end. Ruined the whole thing for me.

I'll give the author credit, he knew how to edge.

 

[Shaneequa]

I tried reading a book about a sniper and it started out pretty strong and then turned into conservative masturbatory wet dream stuff near the end

Was it Trigger Warning by William Johnstone? That one's a doozey. Never seen a book on Goodreads with a rating below 3.

 

[SiccDicc]

Was it Trigger Warning by William Johnstone? That one's a doozey. Never seen a book on Goodreads with a rating below 3.

Nah, I'd remember a title like that, but I can't really remember the name of the one I read. I think it had Ghost in it, but it wasn't Tom Clancy.

 

[Judge Dredd]

The 1993-1994 Senate hearings which led to the ESRB (which happened partially due to panic over shootings, to deal with cybertoaster's attempt at a point) were primarily led by such luminaries as Joe Lieberman. Guess the party.

The revisionist or frankly irrelevant history being trotted out is laughable. At least when @Syaoran Li tried to argue this point back in the day he had a few things to actually point at.

I'd like to see that thread if you have a link.

It's always funny when zoomers try to tell me what the 90s was really like. I was around in the 90s. I remember this stuff. I remember news reports saying Grand Theft Auto was going to turn people into killers. I remember the "Ban These Sick Games" headlines. I remember Carmageddon getting censored. The idea I'm supposed to ignore all of that because they voted team x over team y is some other country thirty years ago is laughable.

It's like how Americans keep insisting that the opinion of Rodger Ebert matters. A dead film critic that saw games overtake movies and was salty about it. I don't really care about trying to make game that appease his idea of what gaming need to do to be considered art.

Not that it matters much anyway. SBI are doing actual, tangible damage. The right isn't, but they're taking notes. As has been pointed out by others we're going to see the same kind of cringe, but with Jesus and bootstraps instead of trans people and racial politics. Last I checked, SBI wasn't government funded. Though there's there whole DARPA DIGRA Silverstring Media stuff from back during GamerGate. I doubt we're going to see any meaningful legislation like they tried in the 90s, they're going to try what SBI and Anita Sarkeesian did.

Al Gore lead the music censorship iirc.

And Dee Snider of Twisted Sister became an establishment shill afterwards. I don't know the details, but I think he got TDS and bought into lockdownerism. He voted Hillary Clinton, so I guess that means Democrats are both pro-censorship and anti-censorship?

 

[ChefKiss]

I guess that means Democrats are both pro-censorship and anti-censorship?

They are nakedly pro-censorship for everyone else and anti-censorship for anything they like, no matter how hypocritical, contradictory or nonsensical their arguments are.
They also just obviously lie about their motivations for it too.
eg a game about killing right wing christians OBVIOUSLY doesnt inspire real world violence because videogames dont cause violence
however a game about killing communists or left wing tranny terrorists would OBVIOUSLY need to be banned because it would clearly result in real world violence

 

[Raging Capybara]

That's true, guys. McCarthyism was done by the communists too.

 

[Drinky Crow]

I mean anyone that knows about the Mortal Kombat and Night Trap "controversy" in the 90's already knew this

You do know the God botherers ALSO slagged on MK and Night Trap, right? I don't remember Pat Buchanan or Sam Alito or Rush Limbaugh running defense for the video gamers, do you?

I swear, people pretend right wing conservatives suddenly morphed into the pro-fun side when Matt Walsh called all anime Satanic and there's still preachers raving about Pokemon....

Nah, I'd remember a title like that, but I can't really remember the name of the one I read. I think it had Ghost in it, but it wasn't Tom Clancy.

Though Trigger Warning does have pretty much the same plot. It's literally a right wing "then everybody clapped" copypasta in book length.

 

[marvlouslie]

McCarthy didn't go far enough if you ask me.

 

[Back me up!]

You do know the God botherers ALSO slagged on MK and Night Trap, right? I don't remember Pat Buchanan or Sam Alito or Rush Limbaugh running defense for the video gamers, do you?

I swear, people pretend right wing conservatives suddenly morphed into the pro-fun side when Matt Walsh called all anime Satanic and there's still preachers raving about Pokemon....

Well that was because back then the primary (and I really do mean primary) market for video games were for children in the 90s. MK and Night Trap were hitting around the time the NES kids were starting to become teenagers with almost every single political believing "video games = (young) children's toys". And those games were not for children, rather the older teenagers and adults. I can see oldies point and confusion which was why the ESRB came out as a comprise: We will make games for adults, but will list and rate it just like we do with movies. Movies were something that the members of the US Gov understood and could relate their thinking to.

Most of the Religious Right biggest concern was don't sell this adult shit to kids.

 

[Drinky Crow]

Well that was because back then the primary (and I really do mean primary) market for video games were for children in the 90s. MK and Night Trap were hitting around the time the NES kids were starting to become teenagers with almost every single political believing "video games = (young) children's toys". And those games were not for children, rather the older teenagers and adults. I can see oldies point and confusion which was why the ESRB came out as a comprise: We will make games for adults, but will list and rate it just like we do with movies. Movies were something that the members of the US Gov understood and could relate their thinking to.

Most of the Religious Right biggest concern was don't sell this adult shit to kids.

You weren't hearing the same preachers I was hearing then.

 

[Aero the Alcoholic Bat]

Most of the Religious Right biggest concern was don't sell this adult shit to kids.

From what I remember, a good deal of them simply didn't want that stuff sold to children, but plenty of others filed frivilous lawsuits in order to obtain what they wanted.

Jack Thompson also made the rather hilarious mistake in assuming that Counter Strike was responsible for the Virginia Tech massacre, AND that Microsoft was responsible for developing said game.

 

[COME ON OUT YOU RAPIST]

Ironically it's less preachy than any SJW.

I don't know if "irony" is the right word. I hope some day it becomes common knowledge that persistent, annoying, sociopathic kinds of people will always be found jumping between sides or ideologies. They want power, they don't actually believe in (nor want) anything else. What they side with or call themselves depends exclusively on what will get them power. Every possible label or idea they attach to is just the equivalent of safehouses, which they bounce between. Yesterday it was wannabe-pastor lizardmen screaming for donations at megachurches, today it's social justice obsessives on podcasts who are about as convincing as Andrew Bustamante.

tl;dr if it seems like a group or idea is pestering you, it probably isn't. It's just awful people wearing something someone else invented like a skin suit. Or investment firms like Blackrock.

 

[Corette]

That's true, guys. McCarthyism was done by the communists too.

Nah.
Commie purges aren't so sloppy.

 

[X Prime]

It's like how Americans keep insisting that the opinion of Rodger Ebert matters. A dead film critic that saw games overtake movies and was salty about it. I don't really care about trying to make game that appease his idea of what gaming need to do to be considered art.

Ebert was an American cultural tastemaker and thereby his thoughts were automatically more attended to than pretty much anyone in the UK. That's the reality.

so I guess that means Democrats are both pro-censorship and anti-censorship?

And this exposes how foolish you are being. If there's any standards Democrats have, it is double standards.

 

[Judge Dredd]

And this exposes how foolish you are being. If there's any standards Democrats have, it is double standards.

I am being foolish, because I don't buy it. My opinion/response has already been covered far better by others, so I'll just quote them.

I hope some day it becomes common knowledge that persistent, annoying, sociopathic kinds of people will always be found jumping between sides or ideologies. They want power, they don't actually believe in (nor want) anything else. What they side with or call themselves depends exclusively on what will get them power.

They are nakedly pro-censorship for everyone else and anti-censorship for anything they like, no matter how hypocritical, contradictory or nonsensical their arguments are.

You weren't hearing the same preachers I was hearing then.

I swear, people pretend right wing conservatives suddenly morphed into the pro-fun side when Matt Walsh called all anime Satanic and there's still preachers raving about Pokemon....

Americans and trying to force everything into team elephant or team donkey during an election year. Name me a more iconic duo.

Ebert was an American cultural tastemaker

That explains why Americans have no taste.

 

[X Prime]

You brought up Matt Walsh earlier in these exchanges ,you can't talk.

You're just proving the general rule at this point that the UK's people could disappear and not much of consequence would be lost with this behavior. You guys have just not been relevant in decades.

 

[David Kirk Ginder]

Assassin's Creed Shadows conspiracy theory. I saw both of these posts on the comments section of the same video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YOog-iKSLQE (ignore the actual YouTube video topic).

Ubisoft executive: Okay guys, we want this game to be appealing to the modern global audience, not just Japan. What should we do?

Ubisoft marketing: China's a very big market. We can do a few focus groups there.

Executive: Okay, I'll allocate some funds for the Chinese market research, flights included.

*Ubisoft Marketing and Sweet Baby Inc travels to China and promotes Assassin's Creed Shadows.*

Marketing: So what did you think of it?

Chinese focus group: It's good and has potential. But how about some *stifled laughter* more diversity?
We heard there was a Black "samurai" called Yasuke *more stifled laughter*...
If there's one thing us Chinese wants to see more of in our vidya gaymes, it's niggers! *barely controllable laughter*

Ubisoft: O rly? i know, we can make a nigger one of the protagonists of our game!
Chinese focus group: Yes, you do that! *almost uncontrollable laughter*

Sweet Baby Inc: BTW while we're here, how about putting some niggers in your new Black Myth Wukong game?
Game Science: Fuck off.