Business A ton of job postings might actually be fake - need a job? go fuck yourself

https://qz.com/companies-posting-fake-job-listings-resume-builder-1851556777?utm_source=reddit.com

https://archive.is/XYu9D

If you aren’t hearing back from a job you applied to, it might be because it’s not real.


A new survey from Resume Builder revealed that 39% of hiring managers said their company posted a fake job listing in the past year.

The disheartening results show that among those who posted fake jobs, “approximately 26% posted one to three fake job listings, 19% posted five, 19% posted 10, 11% posted 50, 10% posted 25, and 13% posted 75 or more.”

The fake jobs ranged from entry-level roles to executive positions, said Resume Builder, which surveyed 649 hiring managers.

Companies said they are posting fake jobs for a laundry list of reasons, including to deceive their own employees.

More than 60% of those surveyed said they posted fake jobs “to make employees believe their workload would be alleviated by new workers.”

Sixty-two percent of companies said another reason for the shady practice is to “have employees feel replaceable.”

Two-thirds of companies cited a desire to “appear the company is open to external talent” and 59% said it was an effort to “collect resumes and keep them on file for a later date.”

What’s even more concerning about the results: 85% of companies engaging in the practice said they interviewed candidates for the fake jobs.

“It’s a concerning scenario, particularly when these misleading postings originate from HR departments — the very entities entrusted with shaping accurate perceptions of their organizations,” Resume Builder’s Chief Career Advisor Stacie Haller said.

“Whether it’s to create an illusion of company expansion or to foster a sense of replaceability among employees, such practices are not acceptable,” she added.

Haller said workers “deserve transparency about the companies they dedicate their time to, rather than being led astray by false representations.”

She also called it “deplorable” that companies are purposely “undermining employees’ sense of value and security.”

But the practice doesn’t look like it’s going away any time soon. Almost 70% of those who posted the phony jobs told Resume Builder that fake job listings positively impacted revenue. Employers also reported the listing had a positive impact on “employee morale” — although it’s not clear how.

“Companies engaging in this practice not only tarnish their reputation but also sabotage their long-term prospects,” Haller said. “Deceptive practices erode trust, dissuading potential applicants from considering them in the future as viable employers.”

 

[Xarpho's Return]

this is why the best sites to apply for jobs is directly on the company's website.

Even some of those aren't 100% legitimate. I have had jobs on university sites disappear because the "position was cancelled".

 

[Alexander Thaut]

You can say you're open to being paid a bit less and they still won't hire your ass.

Fuck em, I say.

it's honestly making me wonder if I should just either go through the pain in the ass of becoming a trucker or attempt law school.

or go back and get a STEM degree.

I can't physically do trades.

kill globalism, kill shitty business practices, bring back the economy.

 

[Super Guido]

it's honestly making me wonder if I should just either go through the pain in the ass of becoming a trucker or attempt law school.

or go back and get a STEM degree.

I can't physically do trades.

kill globalism, kill shitty business practices, bring back the economy.

Same, though I'd need to go back to college for Accounting, which I already had trouble with because looking at numbers all day make my eyes roll into the back of my head.

AND THEN YOU NEED TO DO CONTINUING EDUCATION AS A CPA. FUUUUUU

Nobody wants a fat retard with an Associate's Degree.

 

[Zbk3VmLfujjzjxBd43tL]

so kiwis, have you ever once been contact down the road by a company who "has your resume on file"? ive had more companies than i count keep my resume but never once have i heard form them. nor can i think of anyone i know who has heard back down the road from a company who has their resume on file. so i put the question to you, have any of you ever had your resume on file and then later had a company contact you about it?

Unironically yes. A few years ago I sent my resume to about 200 companies and got maybe 15 interviews. After that I would get about one company every year or so asking me if I was still interested in that job. So far the last one was early 2023, so somebody was keeping a resume on file for the better part of a decade before they did anything with it.

I have no idea what would've happened if I responded to those offers but for all I know they'd take another few years to schedule an interview.

 

[Cats]

Never experienced this because I worked corrections rather than corporate, but our inter-department promotions were usually based on who the Sergeant / LT. over the receiving department wanted to fuck.

I applied multiple times for STG which is our gang unit (it's called Security Threat Groups in TDC) as a jacked white dude with 8+ years experience and an impressive reputation at my unit, along with intensive knowledge of our state gangs, their symbols, language, structure you name it. That was a job I was legitimately interested in. The spic sergeant we had over STG picked some little hispanic girl fresh out of the academy who knew literally nothing about anything just so he could keep her in the STG office and flirt with her all day long. The second time I applied they were looking to fill two positions, so I thought "hell yeah, I'll get it this time for sure". That time he picked another incoming college girl fresh from the academy and one young chick who worked at an entirely different unit, something that rarely happened. Both were young pretty hispanic girls. Passed over both times through a warden recommendation, too. Still a little bitter about that.

The third time that I applied, of course it was a black woman who somehow made a sergeant promotion to STG from the rank of COIV off of night shift A card and slowly replaced all of her staff with her friends from that card. That time was after we had gotten a new warden and so I didn't have a recommendation, but that time I also never even got to have the fucking interview because she already knew who she wanted and "we ain't fux wit eachotha" ("we weren't friends already" in jiveturkey). At least there, they often admitted their nepo bullshit. Those positions never lasted though because they were often wildly incompetent. That's actually a huge problem at the state level.

9.99999 times out of 10 nobody there actually cares about doing their job past the bare minimum of "babysitting and responding" while parked on their asses socializing in the back offices once they reach a position that allows them to do such a thing. That is just another small part of the reason why prison is nothing but a revolving door. I guess every job has it's nonsense.

 

[Yet Another Wanker]

LinkedIn corporate culture as been a disaster for white collar jobs.

Linkedin exposed to the world how shallow are so called business leaders are. Shitposting threads on KF have more intelligence and those are full of people wanting to say nigger on the internet like its 2006.

 

[Super Guido]

Linkedin exposed to the world how shallow are so called business leaders are. Shitposting threads on KF have more intelligence and those are full of people wanting to say nigger on the internet like its 2006.

I never understood why everyone pushed LinkedIn so hard back in like, 2009. Were they getting kickbacks? It never seemed particularly useful to me, but maybe it's because I'm not a habitual liar and sociopath.

 

[Turkroach Couple]

A ton of job postings might actually be fake

You're only just finding this out now?

 

[Dr. Sexbot]

I had a weird one happen a few years ago. I'd been applying to various startups for months; only two rejections and a lot of radio silence. Some rando 3rd-party hits me up on Linkedin or Indeed or whatever, and tells me he's a recruiter for Big Company A. Company A has lots of jobs, and he wants to pass them my resume. He gets me all jazzed, and I'm desperate for work at this point. At the tail end of the conversation, he mentions casually that he also occasionally does recruitment for Company B, that I'd never heard of, and he'll pass my resume on to them as well.

I never hear one peep from Company A, and I still work for Company B today (kinda). So not a full-blown scam, I got a real (and great) job out of it, but something was fishy. I suspect either he didn't really do recruitment for A, just used their name to draw people in...or maybe B paid a bigger commission for me, I dunno.

In hindsight, working for Company A would have been boring, retarded and possibly even gay.

 

[BulkForceFive]

Been done for ages, they're gaming government programs and the tax system by keeping positions open.

at least 12 years now, considering all the gay retarded shit I had to go through before getting my current job.

 

[likeacrackado]

I never understood why everyone pushed LinkedIn so hard back in like, 2009. Were they getting kickbacks? It never seemed particularly useful to me, but maybe it's because I'm not a habitual liar and sociopath.

My experience is that its mostly women and feminized men (HR types) who enjoy the song and dance of self-promotion more than actually improving their skills. I'm sure it felt trendy to jump on 15 years ago and the Microsoft acquisition helped shove it down our throats.

It doesn't hurt that companies incentive you market yourself externally and jump jobs every few years for better benefits/pay rather than rewarding committed employees.

 

[SBG]

Without powerleveling too hard, I've never had an issue finding a job. I'll stay at one long enough if it's decent but I never usually sweat a job. I was trying to find other work while working at my job and for a month straight, I've barely been getting any calls or emails regarding my application. Then, I'll check and the position has been closed.

Interesting to see this article come out.

This is why my attempt to get into blue collar jobs was surreal.

I'd had generally normal experiences with jobs for years and getting jobs through people I know, but when I tried out getting into blue collar work there were fake jobs all over the place. Like a job for doing construction at $15 (which seems like shit pay) that turns out to be sweeping a building at minimum wage.

I could understand major companies doing fake jobs to help let people get into the country with visas, but even little shit companies? Lot of this seems like incompetence rather than maliciousness.

 

[Super Guido]

My experience is that its mostly women and feminized men (HR types) who enjoy the song and dance of self-promotion more than actually improving their skills. I'm sure it felt trendy to jump on 15 years ago and the Microsoft acquisition helped shove it down our throats.

It doesn't hurt that companies incentive you market yourself externally and jump jobs every few years for better benefits/pay rather than rewarding committed employees.

I don't know how relevant that would have been at the time. It was when I was in college, where the guy who was supposed to help students find employment was acting like LinkedIn was the second coming of Jesus. We just needed to make a good profile and surely we'd get contacted by recruiters if we made connections.

I feel like I either needed to read between the lines on that, or he misunderstood what level of person uses LinkedIn. It looks like most people on it are middle management, big shots, liars, or unemployed retards.

ETA: No, you're right. He was definitely hinging everything on self-promotion, which makes even less sense when you're still starting out in college and don't have a degree of any sort.

It seems like it works better for some fields more than others. You might get something if you live in a bughive with a developed background in Tech (at least, before The Big Layoff), but some college dipshit in a random no-one-cares city who only worked part time at Supermarket XYZ has a snowball's chance in hell. It's for people with professional experience, not jannies at the supermarket.

 

[God of Nothing]

i am not surprised in the least
Did you know almost a third of the US population, excluding those unable to work or are imprisoned, aren't employed? They just don't call it unemployment because why would they? Acknowledging just how bad things are would cause it to worsen for a brief period of time and they can't have that.

 

[biglurker]

You know, we would not see the insanity we have been seeing since '08 if the job market wasn't flooded with retarded immigrants.
Remember back in 2018 & 2019 how employers were bitching about people quitting for greener pastors when we finally had economic growth?
I hope Trump actually commits to removing immigrants more than any President in history just so I can see them squirm again.

kiwis, have you ever once been contact down the road by a company who "has your resume on file"?

I applied for a job when a company did a big recruiting push (speaker that visited and REALLY hyped the position) when I was in community college. They received my resume in the same week of April they visited our campus, and I did not hear back about the position until September.
HR is literally that fucking stupid and inefficient at most major companies. If we had any sense we would illegalize the entire HR industry for being a parasite on the economy.

 

[Niggs Monaghan]

I've been saying they're doing this for a while and people said I was schizo.

It's so fucking rare to actually hear back from a job application. It's ridiculous.

 

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Two-thirds of companies cited a desire to “appear the company is open to external talent” and 59% said it was an effort to “collect resumes and keep them on file for a later date.”

What’s even more concerning about the results: 85% of companies engaging in the practice said they interviewed candidates for the fake jobs.

You really dont hate these people as much as you should.

I’ve been looking for a new job for more than a year. When I first started applying, I noticed that a job would be listed on LinkedIn, then be taken down, then listed back on LinkedIn again a few weeks later. Exact same qualifications, hundreds of people applying every single time. You mean to tell me that, after hundreds of applicants, the HR departments of these companies couldn’t find a single candidate to fill the position? And these are not shitty jobs, either; these are midlevel managerial positions that pay well and require a lot of highly specific skills.

I could honestly see it being the case, especially in medium+ sized companies. Hiring for anything other than the lowest wage lowest skilled jobs quickly becomes a political process with a dozen different idiots having their input.

No one reads resumes anymore, you better hope somebody likes you enough to recommend you.

100%. Last two jobs ive gotten where purely due to personal relationship connections. Zero way I would have been hired if it was me simply submitting my resume.

Which is the way its mostly been. The real problem is the overall breakdown of traditional social circles which made this relatively easy combined with endless slew of illegal, h1b immigration + remote work. Its a real fucking horror show when you see stories of scammers getting north fucking koreans remote jobs.

Simply sad how badly the citizens of the US have let the corporatist globohomos fuck them over.

 

[Drag-on Knight 91873]

If there's one reason why America will collapse, it's probably these hiring practices. Much like how the Soviets didn't bother to double check if what they were making was actually in demand, businesses don't know how productive they can actually be by not knowing how to hire people.

 

[Super Guido]

Hiring for anything other than the lowest wage lowest skilled jobs quickly becomes a political process with a dozen different idiots having their input.

That happens in low-skill jobs, too. The shift manager wants you to do this, and the front end manager, who has been there longer, wants you to work on something else. The actual manager is yelling at you for falling behind and implying he'd like you to resign, because you're prioritizing what the front end manager says just to stop her from yelling at you all the damn time. You tell the front-end manager what the shift manager wants you to do, and she says "he doesn't know what he's talking about."

To make matters worse, the front-end manager is willing to fuck with you by being passive aggressive and since the store prioritizes seniority, you have practically no chance of winning unless you know how to navigate the system and are ballsy enough to deal with the kind of people that shit talk you every time they're on break.

Spoiler: powerlevel

I was getting paid 8 dollars an hour in 2014 to deal with this shit.

 

[Kel1 shi1]

Some ads are scams altogether, not even posted by the company they purportedly represent.

I never got Indian scammers calling me until I started to apply for jobs. They put up a fake job posting to gather phone numbers, and you're going to answer that unknown number because it might be the recruiter or company calling you for an interview. If I had known this before I started looking for a new job I'd have just used a burner sim so I don't need to use my actual number which I now have to change.

Kiwis, get a burner sim when job hunting.