US US Politics General - Discussion of President Biden and other politicians

 

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https://www.nytimes.com/2024/07/04/us/politics/biden-governors.html

https://archive.ph/y2vwq

Biden Tells Governors He Needs to Sleep More and Work Less at Night​

The president’s opening remark to a group of key Democratic leaders — that he was in the race to stay — chilled any talk of his withdrawal, participants said.

President Biden told a gathering of Democratic governors that he needs to get more sleep and work fewer hours, including curtailing events after 8 p.m., according to two people who participated in the meeting and several others briefed on his comments.

The remarks on Wednesday were a stark acknowledgment of fatigue from the 81-year-old president during a meeting intended to reassure more than two dozen of his most important supporters that he is still in command of his job and capable of mounting a robust campaign against former President Donald J. Trump.

Mr. Biden’s comments about needing more rest came shortly after The New York Times reported that current and former officials have noticed that the president’s lapses over the past few months have become more frequent and more pronounced.

But Mr. Biden told the governors, some of whom were at the White House others who participated virtually, according to the White House, that he was staying in the race.

He described his extensive foreign travel in the weeks before the debate, something that the White House and his allies have in recent days cited as the reason for his halting performance during the debate. Initially, Mr. Biden’s campaign blamed a cold, putting out word about midway through the debate amid a series of social media posts questioning why Mr. Biden was struggling.

Mr. Biden said that he told his staff he needed to get more sleep, multiple people familiar with what took place in the meeting said. He repeatedly referenced pushing too hard and not listening to his team about his schedule, and said he needed to work fewer hours and avoid events after 8 p.m., according to one of the people familiar with what took place at the meeting.

After Gov. Josh Green of Hawaii, a physician, asked Mr. Biden questions about the status of his health, Mr. Biden replied that his health was fine. “It’s just my brain,” he added, according to three people familiar with what took place — a remark that some in the room took as a joke but at least one governor did not and was puzzled by.

Jen O’Malley Dillon, Mr. Biden’s campaign chair, who attended the meeting, said in a statement that he had said, “All kidding aside,” a recollection confirmed by another person briefed on the meeting. Ms. O’Malley Dillon added: “He was clearly making a joke.”

Mr. Biden took two foreign trips in the weeks before the debate, but then spent a week in debate preparation at Camp David with a group of advisers. One person close to Mr. Biden said that his comment about sleep and work hours reflected the fact that during the practice sessions, which came immediately after the foreign trips, he was engaged in a lot of official work on top of the campaign activity.

Multiple governors who participated in the meeting expressed dismay afterward that there had been little debate about whether Mr. Biden should continue his 2024 presidential campaign — a topic they discussed at length during a call the governors held among themselves on Monday.

Mr. Biden has acknowledged to two allies that he knows he may not be able to save his candidacy for a second term if he can’t demonstrate his abilities to voters following the debate. He sought to reassure concerned campaign aides in a call on Wednesday before the meeting with the governors, saying he was in the race to stay.

But the fact that Mr. Biden began the conversation with the governors by declaring that he was continuing on left some participants feeling that any further discussion about the state of play was chilled.

Mr. Biden told a Milwaukee radio station in an interview made public Wednesday that he had had “a bad night.” In the pre-recorded interview with the radio host Earl Ingram, Mr. Biden added, “The fact of the matter is that I screwed up. I made a mistake.”

Mr. Biden also told the governors that he had been examined by his physician at some point in the days after the debate because of the cold he was suffering from and that he was fine, multiple people familiar with what took place said. Politico reported earlier on Mr. Biden’s checkup, which the White House said was brief and wasn’t a full physical examination.

A White House spokesman, Andrew Bates, confirmed that Mr. Biden had seen the White House physician to check on the cold. But on Friday, the White House press secretary, Karine Jean-Pierre, said the opposite, telling reporters that Mr. Biden had not had any kind of medical checkup since February.

Yeah because the president doesn't need to be able to stay the fuck awake and lucid past 8pm or anything

The Dims have made their decision, they're ridin with Biden all the way to disastuh

 

[Absolutego]

don't forget immediately cancelling projects like the pipeline which would've created jobs, oh and opening the border so wide that there were cities worth of migrants huddling under bridges and such.

The impact of canceling Keystone on the job market is overblown. That gas still gets here, it just comes via train now and is consequently very expensive.
Which is very emblematic of Biden's overall administration. Do the big shouty thing to pander to climate change people who only read headlines, and then cry when that inevitably was the better solution, you're still paying the carbon costs, and now everything's more expensive besides.

 

[Morethanabitfoolish]

Biden's campaign slogan should be "Let' them eat cake".

"I'm owed your vote and don't you fucking dare make eye contact with me."

 

[Sniperwoof]

The Soviet Union got tons of shit and mockery for the parade of goofy elderly alcoholics that ruled over it in the last ten or so years of its existence but Biden is more demented and decrepit than any of those people were.

 

[King Metalia]

I love how Democrats pretend to be the party of the working class and socialist revolutionaries while also being viscerally disgusted by anybody who doesn't work a useless job in a big city.

Biden's campaign slogan should be "Let' them eat cake".

Didn't Trump's campaign due a "let them eat cake" style attack add about Pelosi if I'm not mistaken?

 

[Dr J]

The impact of canceling Keystone on the job market is overblown. That gas still gets here, it just comes via train now and is consequently very expensive.

Yes, the gas still gets here. But you've put thousands of pipe workers out of work for a non-optimal solution that just so coincidentally happens to benefit one of Biden's biggest backers, Warren Buffett

 

[AnotherPleb]

The impact of canceling Keystone on the job market is overblown. That gas still gets here, it just comes via train now and is consequently very expensive.
Which is very emblematic of Biden's overall administration. Do the big shouty thing to pander to climate change people who only read headlines, and then cry when that inevitably was the better solution, you're still paying the carbon costs, and now everything's more expensive besides.

Canceling Keystone was a direct kick to Warren Buffet as all the gas has to travel via trains now. Trains that he owns.

Edit: Damn, ninja'd by the creator of the Wing.

 

[Dr J]

The Soviet Union got tons of shit and mockery for the parade of goofy elderly alcoholics that ruled over it in the last ten or so years of its existence but Biden is more demented and decrepit than any of those people were.

Well, at least Brezhnev, Andropov and Chernenko had the decency to die

 

[Fishmalk Observer]

Yes, the gas still gets here. But you've put thousands of pipe workers out of work for a non-optimal solution that just so coincidentally happens to benefit one of Biden's biggest backers, Warren Buffett

Lil bro is a pipeline worker, he had some Really juicy jobs on keystone planned out before Biden dropped it all. He's still fine because there is a LOT of work and very little people competent enough nowadays, but it still cost him a pretty massive payday.

 

[Sekirodiealot]

Well, this just goes to my point that Biden's people are incompetent. In addition to giving kickbacks to his criminal friends, he broke a lot of good things about the Trump economy purely to spite Donald Trump. The irony of course is that very little of presumably hurt Donald Trump personally, it's the people who suffer. Just another in a long list of reasons why this demented sack of shit does not deserve to be re-elected

It demonstrates why running purely on not being trump didn't work in the long run

 

[MirrorNoir]

What's the primary contributing factor to this shitshow? I knew most politicians were retarded, but not this retarded.

I've mentioned it before, but the cliffnotes are:

1. Biden fucked up by publicly pledging he'd get a black woman as a VP as BLM pandering and couldn't back out on said pledge, which led to him selecting Kamala Harris due to the only other options being Stacy Abrams, who was an election denying, openly anti-white piece of shit in the punch bowl asshole even more unpopular than Kamala.

2. The left explicitly nuked the economy to punish society for electing Trump via Covid and they forgot that you can't magically reverse that shit overnight, so what was supposed to be an easily reversible controlled demolition only accelerated the collapse of the economy into Great Depression 2.0, something the elites have been trying their damnest to prevent since 2008.

3. Even after the shitshow of a false flag operation that was Jan 6, Trump didn't go away. McConnell basically making sure the Senate didn't impeach Trump retroactively over it stymied their plans to make Trump a full on pariah and the base was so pro-Trump, that they managed to actively punish those in the GOP who betrayed Trump.

4. No one expected Jill Biden to be a mega cunt who would hijack her feeble brained husband's administration in a bid to become God Empress of the United States. This included neutralizing Kamala Harris, which I'm sure was motivated by how Kamala was mean to Biden in one of the DNC debates and Jill wanting revenge.

5. Finally, the DNC truly underestimated how people would fondly look back to how good things were economically under Trump. Or that people were awake enough that they couldn't pull shit like they did in the Obama years with things like the Green New Deal.

 

[HackerX]

Honestly? If I were to phrase it simply? "Wishful thinking". Its my running theory that everyone up top combined forces against Trump, gave their tacit support for the rigging, let orders trickle down as they reinforce their side of things and then just... everything was going to sale smoothly. They assumed, from the word go, that their faction would come out on top, naturely, and that everything was going to go exactly as they envisioned it going. They all made grand plans, put together great ideas, envisioned a future where they came out king... and then met reality.

it was the ultimate expression of the Twin Follies I mentioned long ago:


They -laser- focused in on the vision they had, threw all issues with it in the back, and steamrolled ahead. And crashed.

What happens next? Does the DNC concede (behind closed doors) 2024 as a lost cause to reorient towards a new path/vision? Or do they let the chaos continue and pray that everything will magically fix itself? Do they appreciate the reality of the shitshow?

 

[WelperHelper99]

5. Finally, the DNC truly underestimated how people would fondly look back to how good things were economically under Trump. Or that people were awake enough that they couldn't pull shit like they did in the Obama years with things like the Green New Deal.

Honestly i credit the internet with this and the fact a entire generation REMEMBERED what it was like before, jobs lined up, all this good shit, and then Biden gets in, and that's all gone. Zoomers don't like him. He's a old man that made rent way too damn high. And he's been memed on relentlessly because of it. I shouldn't have nostalgia for 2019 but i do, because that was the last good year we had.

 

[tehpope]

What happens next? Does the DNC concede (behind close doors) 2024 as a lost cause to reorient towards a new path/vision? Or do they let the chaos continue and pray that everything will magically fix itself? Do they appreciate the reality of the shitshow?

Both. There's probably a faction or two within the DNC that knows 2024 is a lost cause. But they can't publically admit it because that would be an admission that neoliberalism doesn't work. They risk losing the remaining sane people within the party. There's also risk of losing the people pissed off at them for supporting israel.

 

[Cuckoman]

Lockdowns impacted the economy a lot less than printing another 50% of our money supply as kickback to political donors via the Inflation Reduction Act, which is why the biggest boogeyman this administration keeps fighting is inflation specifically and cost of living in general.

This!
Lockdowns hurt the economy temporarily.
Increasing the money supply by 50% devalues your currency forever.

 

[Wii U]

I've actually known someone who posted 12 anti-Trump Facebook posts in the span of 2 hours. Naturally, he didn't post a single positive thing about Biden. I noticed that not even Biden supporters actually like Biden anymore. Keep hearing "don't care if he's even more crippled as long as it's not Trump." That's not the view of someone who actually likes Biden.

 

[Betonhaus]

I've actually known someone who posted 12 anti-Trump Facebook posts in the span of 2 hours. Naturally, he didn't post a single positive thing about Biden. I noticed that not even Biden supporters actually like Biden anymore. Keep hearing "don't care if he's even more crippled as long as it's not Trump." That's not the view of someone who actually likes Biden.

yeah that's my experience to. the people i know are still convinced that Trump is the spawn of satan but have zero respect for the Biden administration.

I wonder what would happen if we get a viral campaign to have a write in candidate for an independent? is there anyone in America that could unite the people, like Taylor Swift or something?

 

[Dr J]

I've actually known someone who posted 12 anti-Trump Facebook posts in the span of 2 hours. Naturally, he didn't post a single positive thing about Biden. I noticed that not even Biden supporters actually like Biden anymore. Keep hearing "don't care if he's even more crippled as long as it's not Trump." That's not the view of someone who actually likes Biden.

I was having lunch with my dad on Monday. Dad believes all the propaganda about Trump (he lives in Canada so he's probably hearing from even more left-wing sources than in Britain). He actually said to me 'Well, Biden may be senile but at least he has a competent administration working for him. Trump's people don't even want to work with him.'

I was just stunned in disbelief. How could you look at the Afghanistan pullout and say 'these are competent people'. But no, dad seems to think that the Afghan cock-up was somehow Trump's fault

 

[Sniperwoof]

The Dems really fucked themselves over by embracing the anti white stuff to the degree that they did. Almost all of the only remotely tangible replacements for Biden are white men and now a large chunk of their base will reject them outright for their race alone.

 

[Sekirodiealot]

There they go with the mind reader shit again