Business A ton of job postings might actually be fake - need a job? go fuck yourself

https://qz.com/companies-posting-fake-job-listings-resume-builder-1851556777?utm_source=reddit.com

https://archive.is/XYu9D

If you aren’t hearing back from a job you applied to, it might be because it’s not real.


A new survey from Resume Builder revealed that 39% of hiring managers said their company posted a fake job listing in the past year.

The disheartening results show that among those who posted fake jobs, “approximately 26% posted one to three fake job listings, 19% posted five, 19% posted 10, 11% posted 50, 10% posted 25, and 13% posted 75 or more.”

The fake jobs ranged from entry-level roles to executive positions, said Resume Builder, which surveyed 649 hiring managers.

Companies said they are posting fake jobs for a laundry list of reasons, including to deceive their own employees.

More than 60% of those surveyed said they posted fake jobs “to make employees believe their workload would be alleviated by new workers.”

Sixty-two percent of companies said another reason for the shady practice is to “have employees feel replaceable.”

Two-thirds of companies cited a desire to “appear the company is open to external talent” and 59% said it was an effort to “collect resumes and keep them on file for a later date.”

What’s even more concerning about the results: 85% of companies engaging in the practice said they interviewed candidates for the fake jobs.

“It’s a concerning scenario, particularly when these misleading postings originate from HR departments — the very entities entrusted with shaping accurate perceptions of their organizations,” Resume Builder’s Chief Career Advisor Stacie Haller said.

“Whether it’s to create an illusion of company expansion or to foster a sense of replaceability among employees, such practices are not acceptable,” she added.

Haller said workers “deserve transparency about the companies they dedicate their time to, rather than being led astray by false representations.”

She also called it “deplorable” that companies are purposely “undermining employees’ sense of value and security.”

But the practice doesn’t look like it’s going away any time soon. Almost 70% of those who posted the phony jobs told Resume Builder that fake job listings positively impacted revenue. Employers also reported the listing had a positive impact on “employee morale” — although it’s not clear how.

“Companies engaging in this practice not only tarnish their reputation but also sabotage their long-term prospects,” Haller said. “Deceptive practices erode trust, dissuading potential applicants from considering them in the future as viable employers.”

 

[AnotherPleb]

I've managed to avoid "devil corps" gigs, but I've essentially been looking for work since 2022 and all that's happened is that I've gotten fucked.

I'm willing to work, I'm open to work, but I'm either told I'm overqualified or something similar.

They don't want you because you're not desperate enough to put up with a shit sandwich.

 

[Haramburger]

You think you hate HR enough, but you don't.

To be fair, HR may be faking shit instead of doing work, but so am I. So I guess we're even Shaniqua.

 

[The Last Stand]

I was lucky to obtain a job from LinkedIn/Indeed. Many messages you'd get are from scam recruiters looking for victims for MLM sales jobs. Chances are, the job application requires you to create another account for that process. I never realized how harder it is to FIND a better paying job using the Internet. Almost like those people like to prey on people's desperations for steady income in these troubling times. It's bullshit.

 

[Alexander Thaut]

They don't want you because you're not desperate enough to put up with a shit sandwich.

lmao I even sold myself as being used to brutal asian school/college hours and workloads.

 

[Uncle Tom's Condo]

One thing I will say about working public sector - they can't really do stuff like this.

They don't post fake jobs, but a fair percentage of job postings are advertised due to law or regulations requiring public notice, even though they know damn well in advance who they are going to hire. One example I can give is that we shitcanned our finance guy for showing up to work drunk and giving himself cash advances. The obvious candidate was his not-drunk and honest underling, so we put up the job posting for ~8 hours and then pulled it down. We were a very small entity, under 10 people, so we didn't have the leisure to wait around for someone else to see it, apply, interview then get up to speed if hired. I mean, it's shitty in a way to a person who might have seen it and been qualified, but we had invoices to pay and payroll to run. We weren't the feds or even the state, so we had to move quickly. Conversely, we'd post most jobs where we didn't care who we hired as long as they didn't suck.

No I mean like I'm talking people who can't spell or write properly, people who have no related experience, questionable job histories, people who list completely retarded things. Shit like that. I never usually paid attention to formatting unless it was completely unreadable or they chose ridiculous fonts or formatted it in a stupid gimmicky way.

100%. I'd get resumes for mid-level to advance niche skilled jobs from people who were line cooks. Nothing wrong with being a line cook by any means, but I'm not gonna let you loose on a water treatment system without experience or the needed state certs bc I'm not poisoning people or losing my job. One guy applied for a job working with kids and, oh, he kinda left off that he was a registered sex offender. Thank you, state database, for letting me know that. Hard pass.

I'd also get like 10 page resumes that had the most bullshit word salad where someone attempted to make doing accounts payable at a local small business look like they ran the federal reserve. Then there was the occasional cover letter where they forgot to swap our name with that of another company they were applying for, but having had to send out hundreds of those in the past, as long as it was a marginally decent letter and relevant resume then I'd let it slide. Looking for a job sucks.

 

[The Hardest R]

The only jobs worth a shit that are available is if you check off one or more of the DEI boxes or if you have connections with those in the right places at the company you apply for. Someone who has actual influence in who gets hired. People may hate it but always be networking…or pretend to be gay and disabled. What qualifies as a disability in current year plus nine will surprise you.

 

[likeacrackado]

I don't know how relevant that would have been at the time. It was when I was in college, where the guy who was supposed to help students find employment was acting like LinkedIn was the second coming of Jesus. We just needed to make a good profile and surely we'd get contacted by recruiters if we made connections.

I feel like I either needed to read between the lines on that, or he misunderstood what level of person uses LinkedIn. It looks like most people on it are middle management, big shots, liars, or unemployed retards.

ETA: No, you're right. He was definitely hinging everything on self-promotion, which makes even less sense when you're still starting out in college and don't have a degree of any sort.

It seems like it works better for some fields more than others. You might get something if you live in a bughive with a developed background in Tech (at least, before The Big Layoff), but some college dipshit in a random no-one-cares city who only worked part time at Supermarket XYZ has a snowball's chance in hell. It's for people with professional experience, not jannies at the supermarket.

I agree, my comment was based more around my experiences entering the professional workplace post-LinkedIn takeover than the conditions that pushed initially. It's useful for getting a quick snapshot of someone's career path and references. I could leave everything else. LinkedIn optimization is a lot more convenient for college career advisors than finding real connections for all the students. Some people take it to an extreme where their LinkedIn influencer profile supercedes the tangible work they do and those are the people pushing it the hardest in my experience.

Shit makes me want get a government or union job.

 

[Unexpected Genitals]

I shared the source article with my mother, and all she really had to say is "Well, I've never heard of this Quartz site, and I haven't heard of Resume Builder, you've just got to have faith you'll find something."

And like...I get where she's coming from, credible sources are important and I'm going to keep looking for work, but I feel like she doesn't really understand how pessimistic job seekers are at the moment.

 

[Uncle Tom's Condo]

Shit makes me want get a government or union job.

Thing long and hard before you look for a government or union (or both!) job. It's an equally shitty side of the coin. I've worked private and public sector and it's just different flavors of stupid.

 

[one_time_user]

Our HR director just got fired, quickly followed by her right hand assistant quitting. She was fired (fucking finally) for making things needlessly complicated, not allowing managers to sit in the interviews with candidates for their departments and, while unspoken I have to assume just being a lazy cunt factored in.

THAT is what needs to be happening on a large scale. Fire them all and start over.

 

[Joe Lieberman]

If a recruiter is reaching out to you and they're visibly Indian odds are 99% they work for some pajeet owned/operated staffing company that exists solely to facilitate H1-B fraud.
The ones who claim to live in New Jersey especially. They'll go to the effort to rent American commercial real estate and essentially pay to keep an office empty to keep up a front that you aren't talking to a bunch of midwits in Pune.

Can confirm this. In the past couple of years I have received many "thank you kindly" type messages from Indians working for recruiting agencies "based in New Jersey" who claim they're recruiting for roles at major tech companies (FAANG and the like), and ask you to submit your SSN and other data points that are definitely not included in a job application. When you Google the staffing agencies there's basically no information about them found online.

 

[Spoonge]

Tfw i got my job because of weightlifting

I got my job from magic the gathering.

 

[Justa Grata Honoria]

I really hate to say this but your government needs to make something like nav in Norway does . You can post adds on the government site if you are registered in norway and make them visible by people who are registered with nav who in turn have to be at least residents with social number.

 

[Mr. Zed da Robot Poon Fed]

@Uncle Tom's Condo

They don't post fake jobs, but a fair percentage of job postings are advertised due to law or regulations requiring public notice, even though they know damn well in advance who they are going to hire. One example I can give is that we shitcanned our finance guy for showing up to work drunk and giving himself cash advances. The obvious candidate was his not-drunk and honest underling, so we put up the job posting for ~8 hours and then pulled it down. We were a very small entity, under 10 people, so we didn't have the leisure to wait around for someone else to see it, apply, interview then get up to speed if hired. I mean, it's shitty in a way to a person who might have seen it and been qualified, but we had invoices to pay and payroll to run. We weren't the feds or even the state, so we had to move quickly. Conversely, we'd post most jobs where we didn't care who we hired as long as they didn't suck.

I actually noticed this myself. There are jobs at my sector that are being consolidated so one worker is doing multiple things instead of primarily what they do. We used to have someone who does designs, someone who does permit coordinating, someone who does materials requests, someone who oversees construction and overlapping projects, etc. Now, it seems as though one person does all of that.

 

[Niggs Monaghan]

@Uncle Tom's Condo


I actually noticed this myself. There are jobs at my sector that are being consolidated so one worker is doing multiple things instead of primarily what they do. We used to have someone who does designs, someone who does permit coordinating, someone who does materials requests, someone who oversees construction and overlapping projects, etc. Now, it seems as though one person does all of that.

Usually they're doing this and not increasing people's pay too.
Unfortunately most places know they have employees by the balls because no one else is fucking hiring, so you just have to grin and bear anything they throw at you.
I really hope things get better because it's completely fucked.

 

[AnotherPleb]

lmao I even sold myself as being used to brutal asian school/college hours and workloads.

The difference is that you expect to be paid for it and they know they won't pay enough. Bosses are also super threatened by employees smart enough to know their rights.

I really hope things get better because it's completely fucked.

Things won't get better until they're forced to.

 

[Alexander Thaut]

The difference is that you expect to be paid for it and they know they won't pay enough. Bosses are also super threatened by employees smart enough to know their rights.

Things won't get better until they're forced to.

Well yeah, it seems the same across the board. Hell, I have extended family in medicine and law that went to lower tiered schools and they tell me they get lowballed no matter what.

 

[AnotherPleb]

Well yeah, it seems the same across the board. Hell, I have extended family in medicine and law that went to lower tiered schools and they tell me they get lowballed no matter what.

Thanks to infinite immigrants there's absolutely no upward pressure on wages in an era of rampant inflation.

 

[Alexander Thaut]

Thanks to infinite immigrants there's absolutely no upward pressure on wages in an era of rampant inflation.

I'm desperately trying to not fedpost.

Kiwi LLC when? Just think of the company culture.

 

[Smashed & Slamed]

so kiwis, have you ever once been contact down the road by a company who "has your resume on file"? ive had more companies than i count keep my resume but never once have i heard form them. nor can i think of anyone i know who has heard back down the road from a company who has their resume on file. so i put the question to you, have any of you ever had your resume on file and then later had a company contact you about it?

I've had one call me 2 years after the fact. Some send emails. The worst is that outside of the bottom barrel call center jobs nobody is in any fucking hurry to say yes let alone no. Three jobs called me back to say they want me. Only one did so within a month the others took 3.
Also one of the dumbest calls I ever got was for a company that asked how much you want to get payed in the application. I got frustrated at how dogshit their site was and having to add pdfs of documents the job didn't require so I increased the amount each time. They call me back in 3 months and ask "Are you sure you want to ask that much?". I say yes then she ends the conversation. No counter offer, no double check. I guess the stupid HR intern wasn't coached on something called trying.