US US Politics General - Discussion of President Biden and other politicians

 

[AnotherPleb]

Not sure if I said it here, but I totally predicted this.
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Biden's extra terrible performance in the debate was because of sundowning. Calling it now, the next debate terms will include that it be held during the middle of the day instead of prime time. Extra bonus for team Biden: Fewer people will see it live if they have jobs, so they can more easily hide flubs.

News networks won't try that when the first debate had the viewer numbers it did.

I think right now what we're seeing is that they don't actually have to die first, power just falls right out of their arthritis weakened hands.

Really? What I'm seeing is the exact opposite. Their refusing to give up power also means they aren't grooming anyone to take over after them because they have no intentions of seeing anyone but them at the reins.

Yeah but remember folks. It's July. Too many people out there have too short of a memory to remember all this, current, brouhaha.

They are counting on people forgetting that impression, but as Gehenna already stated impressions stick.

 

[Betonhaus]

Really? What I'm seeing is the exact opposite. Their refusing to give up power also means they aren't grooming anyone to take over after them because they have no intentions of seeing anyone but them at the reins

It's more that the power they have grows weaker as they hold it. Biden has little respect on the world stage and him and his cronies are nothing more then puppets that get manipulated. I believe there's a senator where her daughter has attorney privileges and the senator needs to be reminded of what way to vote. They officially have the power but lack the capacity to use it, instead relying on others to tell them how to use it.

 

[Pattern Juggler]

If Biden stays there's no way the convention goes smoothly. There was already going to be a ruckus over Palestinian bullshit, but a 100% teleprompter speech at exactly midday isn't going to rally the troops at all.

 

[Dr J]

News networks won't try that when the first debate had the viewer numbers it did.

They're true believers. Wouldn't be the least bit surprised if there were no more debates, even though another one would do big numbers for the MSM whores

 

[Absolutego]

You are half right, people will forget the events. What you are wrong about is that this will be completely forgotten.

People forget events, they remember -impressions-.

It is why this is such a massive thing. Biden, on an objective and specific level, honestly didn't fuck up -that- bad. He didn't say anything truly horrible, no nigger moment here which will be remembered as a specific incident. It was the sum total that was the massive, unholy fuckup. Just a long list of mild to moderate mess-ups that individually could be recovered from but as a whole left an impression of a man wholly diminished. That impression will not fade with time.

Honestly I feel like the media freaking out over the debate to the extent they did will have a more lasting impact than the debate itself did, and there's an easy way to try and sell that as "Biden's working for your rights against people who said he couldn't cut it" without a lot of work.
Like, my limited reference sample is more freaked out about the media response than anything Biden actually said in those debates, and some of those moments were fucking sad. The botched "saving Medicare" soundbite and his entirely inappropriate rambling about illegal immigrants especially

 

[Dr J]

I don't care, but do you people think the reason people are afraid is because we've established two narcissists as presidential candidates?

People are afraid because we have one established petty tyrant and another who hostile media have cast as a tyrant on par with the Austrian

 

[Terrifik]

I have to know what this is alluding to or a concrete reference to.

nothing just that being down in poll by 8% caused bidden flip on a lot of talking points.
1. Julian Assange being released
2. court the middle with gender affriming care for minors - instead of my body my choise
3. failed attemp at peace by not giving weapons to isreals.
4. try tell isreal to settle down during a election year.

 

[Gehenna]

Honestly I feel like the media freaking out over the debate to the extent they did will have a more lasting impact than the debate itself did, and there's an easy way to try and sell that as "Biden's working for your rights against people who said he couldn't cut it" without a lot of work.
Like, my limited reference sample is more freaked out about the media response than anything Biden actually said in those debates, and some of those moments were fucking sad. The botched "saving Medicare" soundbite and his entirely inappropriate rambling about illegal immigrants especially

The important thing with impressions is that they tend to be the accumulation of events. One big thing only really nudges the needle temporarily. In this case, there has been event after event after event of Biden being shown to have issues. These were handwaved away and never looked at so most people were willing to disbelieve their lying eyes. Importantly, a -lot- of the media were in this group. It is increasingly clear that the media was desperate to believe the spin and those outside of CNN were always given a -heavily- tailored version of Biden. They believed he did have issues but that they were under control and that Biden, if push came to shove, could pull it together.

it is -very- important to remember that until now we never actually got to see, publicly, Biden's cognition put to the test. Any time he had to do something serious he would disappear for a bit and we were -told- what he was allegedly doing but not -shown- it. So most people who had not written him off as one step removed from a vegetable were looking to that debate to be proof that the image they had been fed was true.

And it was not.

It emphatically was not.

And so a media that had -convinced- themselves of the truth of it were suddenly thrust into being very wrong and they reacted as such. Reinforcing the impression.

 

[Morethanabitfoolish]

He's turned on the tranny pedophiles.

I thought that one was said shortly after the debate?

Not because of the debate, we had an article shortly before the debate that didn't get much notice which suggested that Biden's Health Secretary had been in direct contact with I think WPATH to get the age recommendations removed from their medical advice. The sudden "no, we don't support trans medical services on minors, why would you think that?" came out soon after.

I'm hoping it's true because if it is they have been stupid enough to leave a direct line of evidence between policy makers, "experts" and the American medical industry. Not that most places will report on it but if it's blatant enough not only is it a smoking gun it has implications for future lawsuits.

 

[Total Annihilation]

I've been seeing more and more of Project 2025 being mentioned in public now. For instance I was on a gaming subreddit (inb4 mistake of going to reddit) and someone mentioned that Project 2025 will destroy the game dev industry or some crap; I've also seen some randos mentioning it in a public gaming dev discord.
I think the DNC is pushing for it as a scare tactic online, cause from what i've gathered from it, it doesn't seem to be that far off from what a lot of the GOP wants. However it does seem a bit larpy in how they present themselves and a non-threat. Granted I guess the average political redditor or discord user will fall for anything them deem wrongthink™.

 

[AnotherPleb]

I've been seeing more and more of Project 2025 being mentioned in public now. For instance I was on a gaming subreddit (inb4 mistake of going to reddit) and someone mentioned that Project 2025 will destroy the game dev industry or some crap; I've also seen some randos mentioning it in a public gaming dev discord.
I think the DNC is pushing for it as a scare tactic online, cause from what i've gathered from it, it doesn't seem to be that far off from what a lot of the GOP wants. However it does seem a bit larpy in how they present themselves and a non-threat. Granted I guess the average political redditor or discord user will fall for anything them deem wrongthink™.

They're pushing it because one of the ideas there involves the right wing organizing effectively and Globohomo can't afford to allow America to show the rest of the demoralized West that there's an alternative.

 

[mlanguishi]

Project 2025 has turned into a last ditch effort to fear monger like they did with PNAC. I guess maybe 'Magat' or 'muh democracy' wasn't doing enough for their base, so here comes the new boogieman.

 

[AnotherPleb]

At this point the only reason I wouldn't vote for Trump is if Senator Armstrong from Metal Gear Rising joined the race.

 

[Billy Bob Dick]

The only thing they can really do now to win the election is fortify again.

if "fortify" = "have a bunch of niggers stuff the ballot boxes in swing states" then

...yeah, given the insane margin right now even CNN probably wouldn't buy it. The absolute single most hilarious thing I've seen this past week is Jake Tapper fleeing the reservation and turning on his own kind

 

[Darkholme's Dungeon]

At this point the only reason I wouldn't vote for Trump is if Senator Armstrong from Metal Gear Rising joined the race.

Obligatory:

"I have a dream." That one day, every person in this nation will control their OWN destiny. A land of the TRULY free, dammit. A nation of ACTION, not words. Ruled by STRENGTH, not committee. Where the law changes to suit the individual, not the other way around. Where power and justice are back where they belong: in the hands of the people! Where every man is free to think -- to act -- for himself! Fuck all these limp-dick lawyers and chicken-shit bureaucrats. Fuck this 24/7 Internet spew of trivia and celebrity bullshit. Fuck "American pride". Fuck the media! Fuck all of it! America is diseased. Rotten to the core. There's no saving it -- we need to pull it out by the roots. Wipe the slate clean. BURN IT DOWN! And from the ashes, a new America will be born. Evolved, but untamed! The weak will be purged, and the strongest will thrive -- free to live as they see fit, they will make America GREAT AGAIN!

Anymore news on what that Park Ranger who shot the man in Yellowstone NP for?

 

[babadook]

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For context, this is a dude who is in hardcore bands and is always angry about vapid political bullshit. Seems most metalheads are as big or bigger faggots than punks these days sadly.

Implying the most metalheads haven't always been pseudointellectual posers who are mentally stuck in high school and act like the vegans of music. Or the linux users.

 

[Pallid Bust of Pallas]

Honestly I feel like the media freaking out over the debate to the extent they did will have a more lasting impact than the debate itself did, and there's an easy way to try and sell that as "Biden's working for your rights against people who said he couldn't cut it" without a lot of work.
Like, my limited reference sample is more freaked out about the media response than anything Biden actually said in those debates, and some of those moments were fucking sad. The botched "saving Medicare" soundbite and his entirely inappropriate rambling about illegal immigrants especially

The Democratic party is doing more for Trump than anything his campaign could cook up right now.
All of the discourse right now is centered around how nobody has faith in Biden and the impression that everyone is getting is that he is incapable of winning. The GOP just has to sit around and shut up until Trump picks his VP at this point

 

[Betonhaus]

I've been seeing more and more of Project 2025 being mentioned in public now. For instance I was on a gaming subreddit (inb4 mistake of going to reddit) and someone mentioned that Project 2025 will destroy the game dev industry or some crap; I've also seen some randos mentioning it in a public gaming dev discord.
I think the DNC is pushing for it as a scare tactic online, cause from what i've gathered from it, it doesn't seem to be that far off from what a lot of the GOP wants. However it does seem a bit larpy in how they present themselves and a non-threat. Granted I guess the average political redditor or discord user will fall for anything them deem wrongthink™.

I've had success reminding them that project 2025 has no connection to any noteable politicians - then I start telling them about Agenda 2030 and they shut up for now.

 

[he who has thus come/gone]

given the insane margin right now even CNN probably wouldn't buy it.

The leftists and swamp creatures occupying mainstream media would buy anything if the alternative was a Trump victory.

 

[Vic Viper T301]

Biden needs a handler to tell him "Bad touch Joe! Bad touch!"