F1NN5TER / Jude Howarth / Rose Elizabeth Evergreen - Kids Minecraft YouTuber turned forced feminisation fetish Twitch streamer & OnlyFans pornographer with wealthy donors. Internet Famous & Friends with Chris Tyson, Mr Beast, & Jean Hollywood.

[JackoVerde]

100% agree. In the 90s people were already finding their loves online as the first dating websites were dropping in '94 and on/people had chatrooms back then. He very well could have been grooming men into this and doing this same shit in the 90s. Especially as a wealthy man in texas

Does the dad seem to have as much of an internet presence as his son.
If he did, we’d likely find accounts to websites going all the way back to the 90s

 

[Eyeareaunderrated]

Back in the '80s this practice was called 'turning' (as in: "That lad is so hot, I bet I can turn him"), and I'd argue that it was almost as prevalent then than it is now, and the modus operandi was identical - plying the young man with money until he acquiesced to sex.

The only difference was that it was pretty much frowned upon by the more mainstream homosexuals back then.

No, that's something else entirely.

'Turning' is the common fantasy among (some) gay men of "converting" (i.e. having sex with) a heterosexual man. It has nothing to do with "feminizing", or cross-dressing or anything of the sort. It's obviously deplorable, and occasionally a form of grooming, but it's a completely separate phenomenon from what we're seeing here. "Normal" gay men are obviously not attracted to men that look like women for the same reason straight men are not attracted to butch lesbians with a phalloplasty. A gay man paying a straight man to get breast implants is nonsensical.

Again, I am not saying a man who likes troons is straight. He's objectively not.

-The fact that he's married doesn't mean much - back when there was a greater stigma against homosexuality it wasn't exactly uncommon for gay men to enter into marriages of convenience with lesbians to quell any suspicion within the local community. This was especially true in places which weren't exactly gay hubs or were more socially conservative.

Most men who are attracted to troons are also attracted to women. They don't need a beard. Why do you think most troons in 2024 are married to women? It's a fetish that predominantly affects "straight" men and can eventually turns them bisexual. That's it. If you look at who is following all these trans women on social media it's overwhelmingly pornsick men in relationships with women or other crossdressers.

 

[JackoVerde]

You link a facebook account from the son of a recently doxed tranny chaser without archiving it and then you are surprised it got deleted when you posted about it. 10/10 play. Do better next time.

To be fair here, this was a really fast deletion. Most of the time it doesn’t go this fast, it usually takes days for the person to figure it out and delete their shit.
By then it’s too late.
Also the narrative at the time is it was 100% on the dad. Now we’re not so sure.

 

[VasonJoorhees]

It is still manipulation. Seems like it was very effective with F1nn5ter. If he never recieved money to crossdress he probably would be a fairly normal dude now. Not saying Jude is blameless, he is not, and he is disgusting as well, but it took a monetary catalyst to turn him into the weirdo he is now.

Money truly is the root of all evil.

But fucking hell what is it with this rich people and their perverse tendencies? Are they freaking bored? Not enough excitement in their lifes?

Because of their wealth and status they think they're untouchable so they decide to chance reaching for the metaphorical forbidden fruit. Some reach for one that's particularly heinous.

And sadly it's true, some wealthy and famous get to the point where they're too big to fail. See Drake for example, other than getting meme'd on by the public due to Kendrick Lamar's exposé and maybe losing a few fans the guy suffered no real consequences for being a grooming slimeball. Can't say the same will happen for this sick fuck Larry though. Pray this guy gets the rude awakening he deserves.

 

[Redoniblueoni]

Does the dad seem to have as much of an internet presence as his son.
If he did, we’d likely find accounts to websites going all the way back to the 90s

Not exactly. Certain websites get deleted when the site themselves gets deleted or features are removed. Chatrooms and other temporary chats don't usually have an online record. We could attempt to wayback machine old pages he might have had but it's a longshot. The internet of today is not a perfect record.

 

[Captain Dipshit]

Jumping to conclusions because they share common numbers in a password as if that isn't the case for plenty of individuals that have shared numbers of significance in their lives? Autism

To be fair here, this was a really fast deletion. Most of the time it doesn’t go this fast, it usually takes days for the person to figure it out and delete their shit.
By then it’s too late.
Also the narrative at the time is it was 100% on the dad. Now we’re not so sure.

This doesn't make linking to the profile before archiving it any less autistic

 

[DickMain]

For the boomer skeptics, these are among the biggest F1nn5ter supporters:

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General geographic area of the 416 area code for anybody bored and wanting to poke around if any information on this guy turns up. (unless something's changed since '99; Canadian area codes seem to expand and contract a lot)

I'm late and hadn't seen his YT up until now. Of course he's an anime lotr avatar lol

 

[Colon capital V]

Jumping to conclusions because they share common numbers in a password as if that isn't the case for plenty of individuals that have shared numbers of significance in their lives? Autism

What significance could 432 have that the father and/or(?) son would share together in their passwords?

 

[DickMain]

What significance could 432 have that the father and/or(?) son would share together in their passwords?

That they live/lived in the same general area. Plenty of lazy people do things like stick an area code in a password.

 

[Konstantin Romanov]

That they live/lived in the same general area. Plenty of lazy people do things like stick an area code in a password.

And the habit of using the format [northern european country]432? dutch, danish, norway? That's oddly specific. It seems to me like it's the same person creating the passwords, or at the very least they learned their data habits together.

 

[Otis Mallebrok]

And the habit of using the format [northern european country]432? dutch, danish, norway? That's oddly specific. It seems to me like it's the same person creating the passwords, or at the very least they learned their data habits together.

Could it perhaps be, that it was the son staying at his parents house in midlands, thus having that same ip?

 

[Captain Dipshit]

And the habit of using the format [northern european country]432? dutch, danish, norway? That's oddly specific. It seems to me like it's the same person creating the passwords, or at the very least they learned their data habits together.

It's not completely out of the realm of possibility and definitely needs to be looked in to more. Just a lot of people saying it with certainty when there's also a ton of holes in it. The son is a no job loser and even if pops is rich there's no way the mf has THIS much disposable income just from his dad.

 

[Charnel Ground]

Does the dad seem to have as much of an internet presence as his son.
If he did, we’d likely find accounts to websites going all the way back to the 90s

Not as far back as the 90s but I did find this tenmuses MetaFilter account that goes back to 2008 and references medical stuff in more than one place. [archive] For example, this post about CT and MRI imaging. Also an Ebay account that was created in 2006.

 

[Tutu]

I don't think it's as simple as they were all bisexual and only now can they express it.

True innate bisexuality in men is rare. Most bisexual men I know were either victims of CSA when young or came to identify as such due to internet porn/autogynephilia. I have actually witnessed this from both sides. Formerly straight men who never considered themselves bi until falling into certain communities (e.g. femboys) or becoming obsessed with trans porn (if you're interested /r/TGandSissyRecovery is full of mostly "straight" guys explaining this). There's also a surprising amount of gay men on Twitter who arrived to bisexuality from the opposite end, meaning they mostly ID'd as gay until sleeping with pooners and eventually women. There's literal a whole gay fetish called "straight conversion" which is a hilarious inversion of sissy hypno that encourages gay men to sleep with women. This is the "born this way crowd" by the way.

If a person becomes sufficiently degenerate I always assume he or she also becomes bisexual (Guess why 90+% of furries ID as bisexual). From there you continue down the road of degeneracy to even weirder shit like horses and whatnot (see famous bisexual Vaush). It seems porn addiction very often leads to bisexuality or pseudo-bisexuality.

This is why I say these guys are not "born" bisexual in contrast with the way your average gay man is actually "born" gay. They may be born with certain predispositions, but it's an entirely different phenomenon to your run-of-the-mill homosexuality. 99% of people acknowledge this to be true for women. There's a reason 40% of Gen Z girls in the US identify as bisexual but less than 3% of boomer women do. And it's not cause the boomers are closeted. It's social conditioning. It happens with men too, on a smaller scale, and almost always through the autogynephilic pathway for some reason.

"Porn made me gay" sounds like cope for men who can't accept they have faggy tendencies and want to manipulate women into believing they are true and honest straight men who were just going through a phase. If they were straight, they would be able to have fulfilled relationships with women but they can't, they troon out or chase trannies even while being married to women. These men should not be encouraged to traumatize their wives and children by insisting on living a heterosexual lifestyle because they will eventually fail the responsibilities that come with it.

We have seen many examples of this. TenMuses married a woman and he was still simping for F1NN5TER. This is the furthest thing from heterosexual male behavior. Imagine being the wife of someone like this. He says "Honey, I might be jerking off to sissy hypno in your dress/femboys getting fucked in the ass but I can explain." You wouldn't buy that he is just a misguided straight man, you would think he's a faggot beyond repair. F1NN5TER is also too far gone to ever be able to maintain a relationship with a woman. Nothing would stop him from being a tranny. He should stick to dating men and grotesque pornstar troons (men).

You are underestimating the amount of men who want to fuck men and women, it's not that rare. Trannies and their chasers do not behave in a way that is typical for gay men, that is true but they don't act in ways that are typical for heterosexuals either. Porn makes people more degenerate but it can't change their sexual orientation. Straight coomers remain straight coomers. It's not like men who married women but also fucked twinks on the side were unheard of before modernity, think Ancient Greece.

"I want to suck cock but it's not because I like men, it's because of X, Y, Z reason" okay, the fact of the matter is you still want to suck cock. Whatever motivation you come up with is irrelevant. Sexual orientation is defined based on attraction, no one cares whether it was schoolyard bullying, you parents' divorce or browsing TikTok that made you want to fuck trannies.

It is more accurate to call someone who finds both male and female traits attractive bisexual instead of these terms nobody has ever heard of like autogynephilia and spectrasexual. It also absolutely makes more sense than calling them straight or gay. Autogynephilia indicates bisexuality: He is attracted to women and a man who he thinks looks like a woman. Most of the time, they want to be women so they can attract men.

 

[VasonJoorhees]

He turned 30 in the year 1997, most people didn’t have internet in the home at the time and it wasn’t that enticing because the internet speeds were still slow as fuck dialup.
I don’t think internet was widely adopted til the mid to late 2000s, especially in a place like midland Texas, when he would already be 40 years old.

>Mid to late 2000's

LOL

Tell me you're a child without telling me you're a child.

 

[Billy Idol]

What is it with poofs and troons being paedos? Pretty much every gay male historical figure I've read about has had dalliances with teenage or preteen boys. And every troon in existence wants to fuck underage boys even if they pretend not to. Paedos seemed common and almost accepted in the gay community until somewhat recently and they're a protected class within troon world. The only alphabet soup members that ever seem to object to this shit are the lesbians and the hardcore feminists who try to be lesbians because they hate men that much like Andrea Dworkin

 

[Charnel Ground]

If TenMuses is Dr. Larry I’m reminded of some old Exulansic videos where she hypothesized that some of the doctors who do trans surgeries are sadists who get off on destroying people’s bodies. As a medical professional Larry would know that these surgeries, even relatively less gruesome ones like breast implants, are rife with complications and bound to cause suffering. A chilling additional dimension to a forced feminization fetish?

 

[eggnog fan #83]

I was almost confident that Ethan is TenMuses. Except for the fact that the IP addresses in the initial dox are located in Midland, where Frank is apparently located, instead of the Portland Metro.

I suppose it's possible Ethan was visiting his old man at the time that info was leaked

When people started suspecting the son yesterday, I figured the IP match could've been due to something like that. The son was either living with or visiting dad at the time of the leak, and their router could've been set up to use the same outgoing static IP for all devices. It would make sense if dad was tunneling into work servers from home.

Initially I thought it was flat out impossible that both father & son would format their passwords so similarly, but stranger things have happened, I suppose. Like trying to pay some faggy British kid $300,000 to get breast implants for a month. Maybe dad was the OG computer nerd and introduced his son to computers and the Internet when he was younger, helped him get set up with an email address, gave him tips on creating a "strong" password, etc.

Plus, I refuse to believe that some MD investor/entrepreneur pushing 60 had a LiveJournal account at any point in his life. I'll believe absolutely everything else about this story, but not that. Did not happen. Ethan's your guy.

I figure he masquerades as his dad in the voice chats, telling stories about being a doctor and mountain climbing and sailing the world, because it sounds a hell of a lot more interesting/less pathetic than "my dad's rich so here's hundreds of thousands of dollars." It was also likely intended to be misdirection, since there was already an established interest in finding out who he was behind the screen name. He just didn't count on anyone connecting the dots in years-old password leaks on unrelated websites.

 

[Hooked on phobics]

What is it with poofs and troons being paedos? Pretty much every gay male historical figure I've read about has had dalliances with teenage or preteen boys. And every troon in existence wants to fuck underage boys even if they pretend not to.

Its how they, in a way, "reproduce". Not through birth, but from infection.

 

[This Post Is Satire]

What is it with poofs and troons being paedos? Pretty much every gay male historical figure I've read about has had dalliances with teenage or preteen boys. And every troon in existence wants to fuck underage boys even if they pretend not to. Paedos seemed common and almost accepted in the gay community until somewhat recently and they're a protected class within troon world. The only alphabet soup members that ever seem to object to this shit are the lesbians and the hardcore feminists who try to be lesbians because they hate men that much like Andrea Dworkin

Aberrant sexual behaviors tend to be clustered.
The vast majority of people have no "weird" fetishes i.e. the sexual desires of most people fall within a certain boundary of vanilla (breast size, body type, hair color, uniforms, roleplay, etc.) When someone has a fetish outside of this vanilla zone, it is very rarely their only fetish.
For example, it is not common to find a person who is completely vanilla in every other aspect, but they happen to find the idea of someone sticking a bike pump up their ass to inflate their stomach arousing. Its much more likely that this person may also find things like vore, feederism, furry shit, etc. arousing also.