US US Politics General - Discussion of President Biden and other politicians

 

[Sithis]

it's adorable when a MAGA simpleton who only started being interested in politics because retards on /pol/ told him that Trump was "based" is acting like Republicans weren't the pro-war party for decades

Democrats aren't much better but it was Republicans who started the Iraq war (with a lot of Democrat support)

Watching family members go through the VA system will get you political early and help you realize just how little either party gives a shit about the people they order to go die for them.
Trump is the first president in my life who didn't start any wars, hot or cold. His military actions were limited and precise against terrorist organizations who were actively acting against US personnel and interests.
Biden meanwhile is the first president in my life who has created a legitimate risk of nuclear strikes against the US and has dragged us into a new cold war with a gathering alliance of enemy states. I regret to say he's not the first president I've survived who was at risk of brain farting his way to the pearly gates, both Reagan and Bush Sr. had moments of concern toward the end of their terms.

 

[WhiskeyJack]

You said the term "RINO" originated under Trump in your previous post.

He didn’t say that. You seem to be misunderstanding this part:

It is very much a RINO thing to do, when do you think the term originated? Theres a certain Republican who refrained from starting pointless wars, but I can't quite remember his name.

The second sentence is an observation on Trump not being a RINO, not an answer to the previous question, which I believe was rhetorical.

Granted, he probably should’ve split them into two paragraphs.

 

[Capsaicin Addict]

Watching HHH, it feels like that ending scene from Lord of War with Nicolas Cage.

I may not like HHH, but I think I understand him. Even respect him a little. But you can only chant 'Orange Man Bad!' for so long before the reality comes to the forefront. The reality that was brutally shoved into everyone's face with that absolutely disastrous debate.

Blame it on colds, fatigue, biased moderators (what), or Russian intelligence-dampening beams (LOL) all you like.

But there is something very, very wrong with Joe Biden, at a time when the country really does need a steady hand at the wheel.

Do you hear the Gods of the Copybook Headings? Because I sure as fuck do.

 

[McKennai]

>July 11th
>HHH tagged out of the blue

 

[LaxerBRO]

Biden is far from my ideal guy, but I am voting for him because I don't want to live in a theocracy.

My response:

Trump is far from my ideal guy, but I am voting for him because I don't want to live in a theocracy.

Instead of the theocracy of Christianity, realistically moving us to a neutered version of the 1980's United States when it came to Christianity, the current version is the theocracy of woke.

The original sin of White Supremacy.

The Kafka-esque idea of White Fragility where if you deny you are racist that just proves racism.

Where major corporations pushed their employees to read How to Be an Anti-Racist where any racial discrepancy is proof of racism.

We already see sessions in schools and other institutions where people have to acknowledge their privilege and become subservient to Marxist power dynamics.

No, fucking thanks.

My "extended" family killed Communists in China and won't hesitate to do so if we head in that direction.

 

[Forest Portal Triumph 747]

You gotta admit...this seems like a fairly accurate prediction! !

https://x.com/SMillerNatCon/status/1811164144634061022

 

[Quence]

Sending soldiers to die in pointless wars has been the Republican's MO for decades. Certainly not a RINO thing to do

Gulf War I. Contra wars under Reagan. Republicans were still defending the Bush fuckery even in 2016. Ted Cruz, who has his mouth stuck to Trump's ass, even loved the war. Or is Ted Cruz a RINO now? I know you MAGA tards think anyone who isn't Trump is a RINO, but that's not the case. If you had not just started voting in 2020 because /pol/tards told you Trump was based you'd know this.

As I said, Democrats weren't much better, but saying every other previous republican since WW II is a "RINO" is completely fucking retarded and you know it.

Anyway, I am heading out for the evening so you guys can have your bible thumping, Republican-loving hugbox back. I won't bother you guys anymore unless you tards tag me again and I am bored

Really? Which wars were those other than the Bush f*ckery in Iraq and Afghanistan?

WW2 - Roosevelt, a democrat
Korean War - Harry Truman, democrat
Vietnam War - Kennedy & Lyndon Johnson, democrats

You mentioned Gulf War I, but as you can see I already included it in the Bush wars. Then you mentioned the Contra actions, but those were covert actions - not wars -,and didn’t include a bunch of US soldiers being killed or maimed. However….

Iranian hostage crisis and deaths of US military personnel - president Jimmy Carter, democrat
Battle of Mogadishu in Somalia (18 soldiers killed, 73 injured, some taken hostage) - Bill Clinton, democrat
Kosovo in 1999 - Bill Clinton
Bosnia and Herzegovina in 1993 - Bill Clinton

So what are the names of all the wars you’re referring to that were started by non-RINO war mongering Republicans?

 

[Sweeter and Savoury]

I am eagerly awaiting this years DNC convention although not for the reasons the Democrats want.

 

[Sithis]

I am eagerly awaiting this years DNC convention although not for the reasons the Democrats want.

What made them think it was a good idea to host it in the dog days of summer in Chicongo? The city is already a violent hellhole on the best of days, and hot weather + long summer days tends to correlate with more crime. Even if they can lock down their own area, anywhere not in that zone of protection is going to be like mad max: urban life because the criminals will be out and the cops will all be tied up protecting the DNC.

 

[mandatorylurk]

The House passed the SAVE Act 221-198, with 216 republicans and 5 democrats for it.

It will go nowhere in the senate but it’s good election year meat and democrats have to try and pretend they aren’t wanting to replace you with your illegal immigrant rapist.

 

[Whoopsie Daisy]

I hope Trump makes Hulk Hogan his VP.

Anyway, the Biden shit is staged, man. Obama hates Joe, with a passion. He never intended to Joe to have a good presidency, it was all about ruining his career in retrospect. It's the ultimate punishment to burn down a mans' life work when he's too old and frail to rebuild.

 

[Sniperwoof]

Joe Biden has literally never been a good person. He's been on those "top 20 most corrupt senators" lists that watchdog and non profits put out for his entire career.

Yes he's a confused old man now but that doesn't mean you have to feel sorry for him. He's spent his entire life being an awful sociopath who couldn't give less of a fuck about you or your family and sooner rather than later he's going to be sucked down into hell where people like he belong.

 

[Betonhaus]

I'm concerned to see that there is a LOT of talk about Project 2025 but next to zero discussion of Agenda 47. P25 is effectively fanfiction that Trump has directly denounced, but all the news companies keep trying to tie Trump to it. Meanwhile Agenda 47 is a project that is literally proposed by Donald Trump and posted on his website, yet most people don't even know it exists despite the overlap.

It has been effective in redpilling people, as I can prove to them that P25 is completely unconnected to Trump and that A47 is created by trump, and asking them why they never heard of A47.

Joe Biden has literally never been a good person. He's been on those "top 20 most corrupt senators" lists that watchdog and non profits put out for his entire career.

Yes he's a confused old man now but that doesn't mean you have to feel sorry for him. He's spent his entire life being an awful sociopath who couldn't give less of a fuck about you or your family and sooner rather than later he's going to be sucked down into hell where people like he belong.

I do enjoy introducing these people to the concept of karma and hell on earth.

 

[oh no its pipkun]

You mentioned Gulf War I, but as you can see I already included it in the Bush wars. Then you mentioned the Contra actions, but those were covert actions - not wars -,and didn’t include a bunch of US soldiers being killed or maimed. However….

Iranian hostage crisis and deaths of US military personnel - president Jimmy Carter, democrat
Battle of Mogadishu in Somalia (18 soldiers killed, 73 injured, some taken hostage) - Bill Clinton, democrat
Kosovo in 1999 - Bill Clinton
Bosnia and Herzegovina in 1993 - Bill Clinton

So what are the names of all the wars you’re referring to that were started by non-RINO war mongering Republicans?

whats congress look like? because theyre the people that declare war.

 

[SaidNoOneEver]

What made them think it was a good idea to host it in the dog days of summer in Chicongo? The city is already a violent hellhole on the best of days, and hot weather + long summer days tends to correlate with more crime. Even if they can lock down their own area, anywhere not in that zone of protection is going to be like mad max: urban life because the criminals will be out and the cops will all be tied up protecting the DNC.

The Obama Machine is based out of Chicago. Presidential Library and everything.

 

[WhiskeyJack]

Agenda 47

Every time I see that, I get this mental image of Trump shaving his head and getting a barcode tattoo.

 

[make_it_so]

whats congress look like? because theyre the people that declare war.

None of those conflicts listed involved a Congressional Declaration of War.

 

[Quence]

whats congress look like? because theyre the people that declare war.

President has to sign off on it or there’s no declaration of war.

 

[Barry McKockner]

I'm concerned to see that there is a LOT of talk about Project 2025 but next to zero discussion of Agenda 47. P25 is effectively fanfiction that Trump has directly denounced, but all the news companies keep trying to tie Trump to it. Meanwhile Agenda 47 is a project that is literally proposed by Donald Trump and posted on his website, yet most people don't even know it exists despite the overlap.

It's like someone asking you which rechargeable battery they should get. You could ask their application and go into a comparison of all the types, but it's a LOT easier to just yell about how battery acid will burn your skin. It doesn't really answer the question in a way that's relevant, but it would be EXTREMELY effective at steering people away from lead-acid. You could go into exploding samsung phones if you wanted them to stay away from lithium ion batteries.

See, the downside of people uninterested in politics is that they don't have the desire or the bandwith to sit down and examine every candidate and their position, and are more likely to fall for cheap marketing tactics (as described above). The biggest harm to EVER come to our country was the democrat's efforts since the '08 election to push EVERYONE to vote, regardless of their interest in politics. I'm not saying that because I want less people voting, it's that I want less UNINFORMED people voting, and when I say uninformed, I mean people who haven't even looked up what each candidate actually stands for. You can be informed and determine that EITHER party is in your best interest. That's fine.

Everyone has the right to vote. I would never suggest any other method. We're all taxed, we all have to follow laws, we should all have a say. But if someone is asking you who they should vote for because they don't care enough to honestly look at the different platforms and make the decision that's best for them, they should always be told to figure it out for themselves or not vote. At that point, it's no longer the will of the people. It's just who has better zealots and marketing.

 

[Betonhaus]

At that point, it's no longer the will of the people. It's just who has better zealots and marketing.

and therein lies the crux of the problem. You can't just say "everyone gets to vote, but don't vote if you don't know what the candidates stand for" because it's easy for one candidate to start a rumor that the other candidate is pure evil and must be stopped. There HAS to be restrictions in place, but the restrictions have to be done in a way that they are impossible to exploit.