Are SJWS evil?

[Heimdallr]

With all do respect to any SJWs reading this, are SJWs evil?

I have encountered many SJWS in my line of post-grad school (law) and I have discovered, the more left-wing they are, the more likely they are to be obnoxious and unpleasent.

They are all about the "Betterment of humanity" and looking after the "oppressed." But they tend to be the ones who disregard actual humans the most, tend to have less integrity/decency than the average person.

They tend to take politics terribly personally and hate and despise people who disagree with them. They are by their nature undemocratic. They hate debate, possibly because it makes them actually question things they hold dear.

This is a new development. The SJWS/extremist hippies are really not far removed from Mao's cultural revolution youth. They seem to just wish the death of their opponents, far more than the Right wing opposition.

Any thouhgts on the SJWS? My basic take on them is that they are unkind, immature, hypocritical, presumptuous and hateful. They are totalitarian at their core. They don't want their "safe space" they want to impose their safe space on others to.

 

[Picklepower]

All I can say is that people on both sides are all a mix of angry and scared. People on both sides are afraid that society is going to get warped and fucked up by the other side, and discussion brings zero results. People on the right fear that left will rape what is left of their America, and people on the left fear that the right is going to turn back progress.

 

[whatever I feel like]

I don't know if I'd call them "evil" but I'd certainly call them "obnoxious" and "something I dislike." The obnoxious part comes from the warrior aspect, where you can't just agree to disagree or discuss issues without them taking things personally. The something I dislike part comes from the goals they espouse, which often infringe on people's personal freedoms and fail to hold "victim groups" up to an adult standard.

And hey, obnoxious, unlikable people are easily confused with evil people, who'd have thought.

 

[DuskEngine]

I hope they get rounded up into camps and shot.

 

[Owen Grady]

As much as I would like to call them evil, I think they are just misguided and weak.

 

[Heimdallr]

As much as I would like to call them evil, I think they are just misguided and weak.

If you think that look at the anti-Trump riots and how they justify them

 

[Owen Grady]

If you think that look at the anti-Trump riots and how they justify them

Coincidentally enough I found myself over at the Post-Election Violence megathread shortly after making my last post. You... actually have a very fair point.

 

[SpessCaptain]

People are forgetting that Social Justice Warriors have always been with us. Theres always been those crazy gooks that go on about shit like this and unfourtunately since the internet has been made their influence is bigger than ever.

Example: During the 70s-80s a comic series from Viz is produced called "Millie Tant" - a militant feminist character who shows similarities with SJW women and a series called "New Age Parents" - which two adults are constantly forcing 'hippy' ideals, akin to the mentality of modern day sjws and their ilk.

Indeed the SJW has always been with us.

Spoiler: Some of their Comics

Are they evil? Well their hearts are in the right places, but the really spiteful ones aren't doing themselves a favour.

 

[RG 448]

"Social justice warrior" isn't a great term to apply to the behavior it's meant to describe. Social justice in and of itself is a good thing. Using the concept of privilege to dismiss (or destroy) any dissenting opinions from someone you feel is an "oppressor", regardless of the validity of the arguments, isn't social justice; it's social vengeance. I wouldn't call it evil, it's just another extreme line of thinking that needs to run its course before people realize it doesn't work.

 

[Cosmos]

I don't think they're evil; most of them are just misguided. "Evil" implies that someone is so immoral and malicious that they can't be redeemed, and I think that applies to very few people. Also, a lot of SJWs are young (some are even just teenagers) and I really think that most of them will eventually grow out of it.

 

[Assorted Nuts]

Are some SJWs evil, or as close as you can be in the real world? Yes. There are malicious, destructive people who want to exploit the ideals of social justice for their own gain. Are all SJWs evil? No. Plenty of them are misguided teenagers and young adults who have gotten swept up in this ideological nonsense and it destroys their capacity for rational thought.

Calling all SJWs evil is, in my opinion, utterly foolish. They're the ones who play this identity politics game of dismissing entire groups of people as evil or racist or whatever. We have to be better than that by judging people as individuals, not as collectives.

 

[SpessCaptain]

Just thinking back with the "New Age Parents" comics. Were Hippies our parent's breed of SJWs?

 

[An Ounce of Vagina]

Just thinking back with the "New Age Parents" comics. Were Hippies our parent's breed of SJWs?

The hippies were more of a counter-culture instead of an attempt to change the mainstream to their liking.

As for SJW and how they got the way they are, I think it can be laid out to lack of strong, ethical leadership in the groups. Whenever a new movement comes along involving large numbers of people, one of three things can happen:

1: A strong leader or leaders arise that steers the movement into something noble, and has the charisma to keep the movement on-task to actually accomplish it's goals, like MLK with the civil rights movement. A leader like this leads because they are respected by those in the movement, and often even begrudgingly respected by their enemies.

2: No strong leadership arises at all and the movement is pulled in a million different directions by it's members, each wanting to be the leader or otherwise use the movement for their own purposes, and it eventually collapses into infighting. This happened to Occupy.

3: Leaders arise, but they use the movement only as a way to feed their egos and line their pockets. They lead through fear and intimidation, and those under them have to continually walk on eggshells. Naturally this makes the underlings eager to point out the sins of others to keep the spotlight away from themselves. This results in a situation where everyone is hyper-sensitive to the slightest deviation from the group's dogma. Outsiders, who are less likely to know the group's dogma, are easy targets. And because each member is trying to be the most virtuous, the rhetoric gets more and more extreme. This is SocJus in a nutshell.

So no, I don't think all SJW are evil anymore than anyone else who gets caught up in a cult is evil. I actually feel sorry for them.

 

[ZeCommissar]

Evil and good is subjective to different people, families, and cultures.

If you think SJWs are evil they think you are evil and they themselves are the righteous crusaders.

Not many people act evil because they want to be. Some people are dicks because they think it's fun, or they don't care, but most aren't evil, with exceptions of course.

I think they are misguided. This goes for any extreme political group, this includes the alt-right, except the alt-right has a one up since they haven't rioted in large numbers in the street (yet)

It all depends on context, some just whine on tumblr, and some go out in the streets and riot. Some use it for their own personal gain, some actually desire a extreme leftist 1984-esque society, and some actually want to better humanity.

EDIT: Of course the ones that call for the death of others just for different political opinions may be "evil" however that can be said of anyone that wants to kill someone else for their politics/religion/whatever, regardless if it's a SJW or not

 

[Henry Bemis]

"Social justice warrior" isn't a great term to apply to the behavior it's meant to describe. Social justice in and of itself is a good thing. Using the concept of privilege to dismiss (or destroy) any dissenting opinions from someone you feel is an "oppressor", regardless of the validity of the arguments, isn't social justice; it's social vengeance. I wouldn't call it evil, it's just another extreme line of thinking that needs to run its course before people realize it doesn't work.

So much this, especially the last line.

Eventually, something will give, and the social justice advocates who got roped into this - the ones with a semblance of worthwhile use (and a sense of realpolitik) - will find practical outlets for what they seek to accomplish. The warriors, though, will fade away, or hibernate, or change course entirely, whatever comes first.

 

[Male Idiot]

I'm not sure about the evil, but I'm totally sure that they are all delusional, mentally unhinged, divorced from reality and not wholly sane as normal people understand it. Which can be just as dangerous as evil.

 

[Dr. Tremolo]

A massive Hanlon's Razor applies.

 

[Locksnap]

They are truly evil and despicable. SJWs sent me rape and death threats when I dared to stand up to them and call them niggers. The people on my side of the political spectrum would never do that.

 

[MarineTrainedTard]

In general? Naw. They see things that frustrate them, don't know how to deal with it maturely, and wall themselves off in echo-chambers that reinforce their beliefs and steadfastly avoid dissenting opinion. The last bit is a relatively modern phenomenon visible across the entire political spectrum. Sure, it happened in the past, but now, with the internet, it's quite easy to find people that share my beliefs, whether that's "Kill Whitey" or "14/88" or "I love Stalin" and avoid dissenters. Hopefully they will one day learn how to debate properly and work toward actual equality in an effective manner. No guarantees that it'll happen, but I hope it does.

 

[AnOminous]

Evil and good is subjective to different people, families, and cultures.

If you think SJWs are evil they think you are evil and they themselves are the righteous crusaders.

SJWs think you're evil if you disagree with them or even don't agree with them hard enough.

If you think anyone who disagrees with you is evil, that's pretty much the problem with SJWs themselves.